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The following statement was made by iG.Edison, Jim's coach, on his weibo account:
Many People have asked, "Why didn't the Chinese players try to qualify for WCS KR?". The short answer is, "You have to be in Korea to even qualify for WCS KR Challenger league." So that rules out anyone who is not geographically located in Korea. Even then, Korea is not the same country as China, and thus players must apply for a visa to enter the country.
http://www.weibo.com/2180619442/A5r06mFv7?sudaref=www.reddit.com
This is such a tragic piece of news, in the end because of visa issues, this time we have no way at all to attend the WCS World Finals in Cologne, Germany. The invite will instead be extended to to the competitor that Jim had defeated, Alive. At this point, we must thank Blizzard and Netease, and the support of ESL in many different ways. We're so sorry, this time we have no way to stand on the world stage and show everyone amazing games. @Jin Hui Cao, JIM @Starcraft.
My own reflection is that I thought Jim would have gotten the visa for sure. I was personally sure that he would get it...
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Edison's account of what happened on his sina blog, before and after translation:
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/81f99cb2jw1e7obp06un5j20hs1h9agv.jpg) At the time we had come back from America, we already proactively discussing with Blizzard and ESL about the issue of the visa. To ensure that once we had arrived home [China], we took our invitation letters, the first time we rushed for a visa. But originally we prepared for a German work visa, we were informed there was no way to continue processing it, forcing us to switch to a french visa, we would need another invitation letter, and because German consulate was in the middle of a weekend, so we had to wait until Monday until we were able to get a new invitation letter. At this time the only thing we could do is ensure that the documents in front of us didn't have any problems. We had repeatedly been through [our documents] verifying them. Afterwards we noticed one imperfection: Jim, this year, only on October 10th would be a full 18 years of age. and anyone under a full 18 years of age must have their parents permission to get a visa or have power of attorney. As a result, this was the first time we consulted Jim's mother, she gave us that authority template, and she took the time yesterday to proceed with work visa. Misfortune does not come alone... Last night we got Jim's mother's final answer: because her Hukou (Chinese social security number / ID) is registered to Guangdong, and she was presently in Hunan, she works in Hunan and lives in Hunan. We were informed that we must get back to the place where the Hukou is registered to get work visas. Even though ESL informed us that they had a way to get us visas in less than 3 working days, if we were to send the visa out for processing on Monday, the Power of Attorney letter and the invitation letter would not be in our hands on Monday, and basically we would not arrive in Time. So, last night I contacted Blizzard and ESL, informing them of the relevant situation, the attitudes we were in towards this tournament, to let Blizzard plan this out well. Its not about holding on until the end because this, and the tournaments cannot be regularly done, and finally I went to sleep. When I woke up, I just found out that the entire sky of news and QQ (messenger program, similar to skype) messages asking me if Jim's visa was or wasn't screwed. So I think I must write this for a moment on weibo (Chinese twitter), letting everyone who supports us know our situation. Sorry, recently for a long time I had not slept well, so last night I slept a long time, only this late have I told everyone our situation. Finally, I just want to say, only if there is just a ghost of a chance, I will certainly not give up!
Geez. I must have spent 30 minutes to an hour translating that...
EDIT: Please stop the player-bashing, guys.
EDIT 2: I don't mean to bash tournament organizers, but with this little jiffy happening, I have to inject my own thoughts. Open a 4th region. This is just a concept, and users can read it here: here.
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lame.
Now I'm going with Maru/MMA to make it out of that group
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IMO, anyone with a history of forfeiting wcs spots due to visa issues should be suspended for a season. I don't care if its harsh, because the only thing harsher is the fact that numerous players are missing out on a chance to compete due to losing to people who cant even make it to all their matches. How many more future NA spots are going to be robbed by koreans/chinese players who cant even attend the finals or sometimes even the ro16? Such bullshit.
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On August 19 2013 23:32 stratmatt wrote:
IMO, anyone with a history of forfeiting wcs spots due to visa issues should be suspended for a season. I don't care if its harsh, because the only thing harsher is the fact that numerous players are missing out on a chance to compete due to losing to people who cant even make it to all their matches. How many more future NA spots are going to be robbed by koreans/chinese players who cant even attend the finals or sometimes even the ro16? Such bullshit.
It sounds like you are suffering from first world problems, but that's just my perspective.
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On August 19 2013 23:32 stratmatt wrote:
IMO, anyone with a history of forfeiting wcs spots due to visa issues should be suspended for a season. I don't care if its harsh, because the only thing harsher is the fact that numerous players are missing out on a chance to compete due to losing to people who cant even make it to all their matches. How many more future NA spots are going to be robbed by koreans/chinese players who cant even attend the finals or sometimes even the ro16? Such bullshit.
Is this actually Jim's fault?
Regardless, it's a pity that he had to forfeit his spot. I know the Chinese players have a pretty big following in the community. Best of luck to Alive though!
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fuck, that sucks
well, might as well cheer alive to do well in his place :D
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On August 19 2013 23:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 23:32 stratmatt wrote:
IMO, anyone with a history of forfeiting wcs spots due to visa issues should be suspended for a season. I don't care if its harsh, because the only thing harsher is the fact that numerous players are missing out on a chance to compete due to losing to people who cant even make it to all their matches. How many more future NA spots are going to be robbed by koreans/chinese players who cant even attend the finals or sometimes even the ro16? Such bullshit. Is this actually Jim's fault? Regardless, it's a pity that he had to forfeit his spot. I know the Chinese players have a pretty big following in the community. Best of luck to Alive though!
he's not saying it's jim's fault
There definitely needs to be a system in place for taking care of players who can't acquire visas, because it takes away opportunities from other players and makes for shitty tournament situations (walkover lottery against viOLet 2 seasons in a row).
I'd prefer it be a system where they find replacements for absent players, but given the # of players someone like violet can eliminate on his way up, suspensions for multiple violations might be necessary on top of that.
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On August 19 2013 23:34 Enders116 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 23:32 stratmatt wrote:
IMO, anyone with a history of forfeiting wcs spots due to visa issues should be suspended for a season. I don't care if its harsh, because the only thing harsher is the fact that numerous players are missing out on a chance to compete due to losing to people who cant even make it to all their matches. How many more future NA spots are going to be robbed by koreans/chinese players who cant even attend the finals or sometimes even the ro16? Such bullshit. It sounds like you are suffering from first world problems, but that's just my perspective.
Your post makes absolutely no sense.
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This sucks. I hate when problems like these that have nothing to do with Starcraft get in the way
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On August 19 2013 23:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 23:32 stratmatt wrote:
IMO, anyone with a history of forfeiting wcs spots due to visa issues should be suspended for a season. I don't care if its harsh, because the only thing harsher is the fact that numerous players are missing out on a chance to compete due to losing to people who cant even make it to all their matches. How many more future NA spots are going to be robbed by koreans/chinese players who cant even attend the finals or sometimes even the ro16? Such bullshit. Is this actually Jim's fault? Regardless, it's a pity that he had to forfeit his spot. I know the Chinese players have a pretty big following in the community. Best of luck to Alive though!
This time it was a little, because he didn’t look up the Visa requirement for Germany to make sure he would have no problem’s attending. However, he is a young guy and I don’t think he should be punished for it. I think this might be his first attempt to visit the EU in his life(I am just guessing, but he is very young) and mistakes happen. Blizzard and the folks running the leagues should put out a reminder each season to remind people to check on the visa requirements for each region before attempting to qualify. Links and an FAQ should be put together as well.
This one is just an honest mistake and we shouldn’t be freaking out at anyone. Live and learn.
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Sigh wtf, was hoping the issue was resolved... He beat so many top players to get there, now you're telling me he's not playing =S Lame...
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One thing, Jim's name is "Jinhui CAO". "CAO" is his family name.
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Why are there so many frickin Visa issues? Is Jim the only Chinese person trying to enter Germany?? Did they just not plan far enough ahead of time for this?
This seems like it should be such a non-issue. Maybe they should look into how this is done for conventional sports. Chinese atheletes compete everywhere all the time.
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I feel bad for Jim and Edison. So many problems.
Wish them best of luck and I'm not even a fan!
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On August 19 2013 23:34 Enders116 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 23:32 stratmatt wrote:
IMO, anyone with a history of forfeiting wcs spots due to visa issues should be suspended for a season. I don't care if its harsh, because the only thing harsher is the fact that numerous players are missing out on a chance to compete due to losing to people who cant even make it to all their matches. How many more future NA spots are going to be robbed by koreans/chinese players who cant even attend the finals or sometimes even the ro16? Such bullshit. It sounds like you are suffering from first world problems, but that's just my perspective.
Isnt this website mostly about 1st world problems?
I mean its a videogame forum. You dont get more 1st world than this.
His solution might be harsh but if the chinese's presence is a question mark for every event they get an invite for, why the invite?
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On August 19 2013 23:43 DinoMight wrote:
Why are there so many frickin Visa issues? Is Jim the only Chinese person trying to enter Germany?? Did they just not plan far enough ahead of time for this?
This seems like it should be such a non-issue. Maybe they should look into how this is done for conventional sports. Chinese atheletes compete everywhere all the time.
Jim is under 18 years old and he needs a letters from his parents saying someone can act as his guardian while he is there. It’s a requirement in Germany and the letter must be signed by his parent and notarized. He couldn’t get it in time and cannot go because of it.
Professional athletes have no problem because they have people who handle this shit for them. Jim doesn’t have that. Its just him and his coach and that is it. They are both young guys and they are learning things as they go.
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On August 19 2013 23:42 steventcyh wrote:
One thing, Jim's name is "Jinhui CAO". "CAO" is his family name.
Actually if you're going to be a stickler about this, his name is Cao Jinhui. Family name goes first in Asia.
I don't even see who you're correcting in this thread, though. No one fucked up his name.
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