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On August 16 2013 22:41 fleeze wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. nope, totally not. one side made the other look bad by revealing private information and insulting. the other side stayed calm and only apologized publicly. Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:40 Pandemona wrote:On August 16 2013 22:39 fleeze wrote:On August 16 2013 22:38 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:34 Doodsmack wrote:
It's a shame people who don't understand the law get intimidated by dumb legal threats. Take clearly is not going to do anything legally and wouldn't have a chance in hell if he tried. TB has a law degree, supposedly. in the UK.... That is supposed to mean? he doesn't know german law?
Eh, you could be right and I wouldn’t have done that. But TB and Axiom have done as much at TakeTV for the scene, so I am willing to give them both a pass and wish them luck. I appreciate TB’s honesty and I understand why he would not be happy with Take TV. As someone in a long term relationship, I would be hostile towards anyone who made my girlfriend upset, no matter how reasonable or professional they were.
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On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias.
The moment they posted private conversations they "won" that battle tough. I don't see how Take could beat that without going completely off the rails publicly.
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Too much drama for something that need not have to escalate this much.
This will keep us busy till the next drama episode, I guess. 
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Sorry to see her go, but she's also 100% wrong for posting private conversations. All we needed to know was there was a misunderstanding about travel funds. No fuss required, mistakes happen.
Anyway she/TB have said the retirement is not about this one event so feel better.
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On August 16 2013 22:49 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. The moment they posted private conversations they "won" that battle tough.
Once again, I would not have done that, but I don’t think it is a huge deal either. At the end of the day, both sides are trying to tell their side of the story and releasing those discussions puts everyone cards on the table.
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On August 16 2013 22:55 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:49 Assirra wrote:On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. The moment they posted private conversations they "won" that battle tough. Once again, I would not have done that, but I don’t think it is a huge deal either. At the end of the day, both sides are trying to tell their side of the story and releasing those discussions puts everyone cards on the table.
How are private financial matters not a huge deal?
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On August 16 2013 22:47 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:41 fleeze wrote:On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. nope, totally not. one side made the other look bad by revealing private information and insulting. the other side stayed calm and only apologized publicly. On August 16 2013 22:40 Pandemona wrote:On August 16 2013 22:39 fleeze wrote:On August 16 2013 22:38 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:34 Doodsmack wrote:
It's a shame people who don't understand the law get intimidated by dumb legal threats. Take clearly is not going to do anything legally and wouldn't have a chance in hell if he tried. TB has a law degree, supposedly. in the UK.... That is supposed to mean? he doesn't know german law? Eh, you could be right and I wouldn’t have done that. But TB and Axiom have done as much at TakeTV for the scene, so I am willing to give them both a pass and wish them luck. I appreciate TB’s honesty and I understand why he would not be happy with Take TV. As someone in a long term relationship, I would be hostile towards anyone who made my girlfriend upset, no matter how reasonable or professional they were.
this directly contradicts your last post:
On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias.
also take is a player who loves RTS, TB is just another caster. but that's only my opinion.
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On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna.
You need to read up on what has happened. You're being a sheep by simply trusting Genna and TBs position when they are the ones who posted private business conversations, and then started insulting Take online. All Take did was handle a bad situation, got mad when his private conversation was posted publicly, and then posted ONE post publicly explaining his position, unlike Genna who posts private conversations over and over to throw shit on Take while TB uses twitter as his personal schoolyard, acting like you and writing "fuck take".
You whine about 0 professionalism in the EU, then say you only support Axiom. Are you being dumb on purpose? They posted private business conversations online, they have no professionalism what so ever.
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On August 16 2013 22:58 fleeze wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:47 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:41 fleeze wrote:On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. nope, totally not. one side made the other look bad by revealing private information and insulting. the other side stayed calm and only apologized publicly. On August 16 2013 22:40 Pandemona wrote:On August 16 2013 22:39 fleeze wrote:On August 16 2013 22:38 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:34 Doodsmack wrote:
It's a shame people who don't understand the law get intimidated by dumb legal threats. Take clearly is not going to do anything legally and wouldn't have a chance in hell if he tried. TB has a law degree, supposedly. in the UK.... That is supposed to mean? he doesn't know german law? Eh, you could be right and I wouldn’t have done that. But TB and Axiom have done as much at TakeTV for the scene, so I am willing to give them both a pass and wish them luck. I appreciate TB’s honesty and I understand why he would not be happy with Take TV. As someone in a long term relationship, I would be hostile towards anyone who made my girlfriend upset, no matter how reasonable or professional they were. this directly contradicts your last post: Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. also take is a player who loves RTS, TB is just another caster. but that's only my opinion.
I think you need to look up what the word “subjective” means.
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Reading TB's twitter leaves me with virtually zero confidence about axiom's future. Is this guy for real?
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On August 16 2013 22:57 Gentso wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:55 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:49 Assirra wrote:On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. The moment they posted private conversations they "won" that battle tough. Once again, I would not have done that, but I don’t think it is a huge deal either. At the end of the day, both sides are trying to tell their side of the story and releasing those discussions puts everyone cards on the table. How are private financial matters not a huge deal?
Because nothing of substance was really released beyond that they couldn’t fund more that $1,500 in travel, which we sort of already knew.
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On August 16 2013 23:00 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:58 fleeze wrote:On August 16 2013 22:47 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:41 fleeze wrote:On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. nope, totally not. one side made the other look bad by revealing private information and insulting. the other side stayed calm and only apologized publicly. On August 16 2013 22:40 Pandemona wrote:On August 16 2013 22:39 fleeze wrote:On August 16 2013 22:38 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:34 Doodsmack wrote:
It's a shame people who don't understand the law get intimidated by dumb legal threats. Take clearly is not going to do anything legally and wouldn't have a chance in hell if he tried. TB has a law degree, supposedly. in the UK.... That is supposed to mean? he doesn't know german law? Eh, you could be right and I wouldn’t have done that. But TB and Axiom have done as much at TakeTV for the scene, so I am willing to give them both a pass and wish them luck. I appreciate TB’s honesty and I understand why he would not be happy with Take TV. As someone in a long term relationship, I would be hostile towards anyone who made my girlfriend upset, no matter how reasonable or professional they were. this directly contradicts your last post: On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. also take is a player who loves RTS, TB is just another caster. but that's only my opinion. I think you need to look up what the word “subjective” means.
nope, you need to know that emotions are unprofessional. you make excuses for TBs emotional posts, which are the most unprofessional you can be. whereas take made ONE post, where he APOLOGIZED and said he is ready to talk through the issue.
i don't know how you can not see who is professional and who isn't here? it's pretty much obvious.
On August 16 2013 23:02 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:57 Gentso wrote:On August 16 2013 22:55 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:49 Assirra wrote:On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. The moment they posted private conversations they "won" that battle tough. Once again, I would not have done that, but I don’t think it is a huge deal either. At the end of the day, both sides are trying to tell their side of the story and releasing those discussions puts everyone cards on the table. How are private financial matters not a huge deal? Because nothing of substance was really released beyond that they couldn’t fund more that $1,500 in travel, which we sort of already knew.
she released informations that weren't meant to be public like take covering some of TL expenses. you don't do this without asking for permission.
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On August 16 2013 23:02 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:57 Gentso wrote:On August 16 2013 22:55 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:49 Assirra wrote:On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. The moment they posted private conversations they "won" that battle tough. Once again, I would not have done that, but I don’t think it is a huge deal either. At the end of the day, both sides are trying to tell their side of the story and releasing those discussions puts everyone cards on the table. How are private financial matters not a huge deal? Because nothing of substance was really released beyond that they couldn’t fund more that $1,500 in travel, which we sort of already knew.
It's a breach of trust regardless, there's literally zero reason to post that discussion online without asking TaKe about it. You simply don't do that, it's a matter of principle if nothing else.
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On August 16 2013 23:02 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:57 Gentso wrote:On August 16 2013 22:55 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:49 Assirra wrote:On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. The moment they posted private conversations they "won" that battle tough. Once again, I would not have done that, but I don’t think it is a huge deal either. At the end of the day, both sides are trying to tell their side of the story and releasing those discussions puts everyone cards on the table. How are private financial matters not a huge deal? Because nothing of substance was really released beyond that they couldn’t fund more that $1,500 in travel, which we sort of already knew.
Come on man, think a little. Who's paying who, how much, why, all these things have repercussions for further negotiations.
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On August 16 2013 22:55 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:49 Assirra wrote:On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. The moment they posted private conversations they "won" that battle tough. Once again, I would not have done that, but I don’t think it is a huge deal either. At the end of the day, both sides are trying to tell their side of the story and releasing those discussions puts everyone cards on the table.
Of course it is a huge deal because it means for anyone who'd want to be involved with Axiom that their managment cannot be trusted because they cannot keep things for themselves. Doing business with people whom you think you can't be fully honest with is hard.
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On August 16 2013 23:04 fleeze wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 23:00 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:58 fleeze wrote:On August 16 2013 22:47 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:41 fleeze wrote:On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. nope, totally not. one side made the other look bad by revealing private information and insulting. the other side stayed calm and only apologized publicly. On August 16 2013 22:40 Pandemona wrote:On August 16 2013 22:39 fleeze wrote:On August 16 2013 22:38 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:34 Doodsmack wrote:
It's a shame people who don't understand the law get intimidated by dumb legal threats. Take clearly is not going to do anything legally and wouldn't have a chance in hell if he tried. TB has a law degree, supposedly. in the UK.... That is supposed to mean? he doesn't know german law? Eh, you could be right and I wouldn’t have done that. But TB and Axiom have done as much at TakeTV for the scene, so I am willing to give them both a pass and wish them luck. I appreciate TB’s honesty and I understand why he would not be happy with Take TV. As someone in a long term relationship, I would be hostile towards anyone who made my girlfriend upset, no matter how reasonable or professional they were. this directly contradicts your last post: On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. also take is a player who loves RTS, TB is just another caster. but that's only my opinion. I think you need to look up what the word “subjective” means. nope, you need to know that emotions are unprofessional. you make excuses for TBs emotional posts, which are the most unprofessional you can be. whereas take made ONE post, where he APOLOGIZED and said he is ready to talk through the issue. i don't know how you can not see who is professional and who isn't here? it's pretty much obvious.
Well you have your opinion and I have mine. I value their honesty and straight talk more than an apology. You clearly value the apology. We each have our own personal beliefs on which is more important.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective
• Subjectivity, a subject's personal perspective, feelings, beliefs, desires or discovery, as opposed to those made from an independent, objective, point of view
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On August 16 2013 23:09 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 23:04 fleeze wrote:On August 16 2013 23:00 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:58 fleeze wrote:On August 16 2013 22:47 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:41 fleeze wrote:On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. nope, totally not. one side made the other look bad by revealing private information and insulting. the other side stayed calm and only apologized publicly. On August 16 2013 22:40 Pandemona wrote:On August 16 2013 22:39 fleeze wrote:On August 16 2013 22:38 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:34 Doodsmack wrote:
It's a shame people who don't understand the law get intimidated by dumb legal threats. Take clearly is not going to do anything legally and wouldn't have a chance in hell if he tried. TB has a law degree, supposedly. in the UK.... That is supposed to mean? he doesn't know german law? Eh, you could be right and I wouldn’t have done that. But TB and Axiom have done as much at TakeTV for the scene, so I am willing to give them both a pass and wish them luck. I appreciate TB’s honesty and I understand why he would not be happy with Take TV. As someone in a long term relationship, I would be hostile towards anyone who made my girlfriend upset, no matter how reasonable or professional they were. this directly contradicts your last post: On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. also take is a player who loves RTS, TB is just another caster. but that's only my opinion. I think you need to look up what the word “subjective” means. nope, you need to know that emotions are unprofessional. you make excuses for TBs emotional posts, which are the most unprofessional you can be. whereas take made ONE post, where he APOLOGIZED and said he is ready to talk through the issue. i don't know how you can not see who is professional and who isn't here? it's pretty much obvious. Well you have your opinion and I have mine. I value their honesty and straight talk more than an apology. You clearly value the apology. We each have our own personal beliefs on which is more important. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective• Subjectivity, a subject's personal perspective, feelings, beliefs, desires or discovery, as opposed to those made from an independent, objective, point of view
LOL. maybe read what you wrote.
you said which side is professional is subjective. you are wrong.
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Does TB behave so petulantly for the publicity, or is there a surplus of female hormones coursing through his body?
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On August 16 2013 23:09 PPN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:55 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:49 Assirra wrote:On August 16 2013 22:40 Plansix wrote:On August 16 2013 22:36 Lonyo wrote:On August 16 2013 22:25 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Sad to see her go, her and TB were doing so much to help improve the scene.
I wasn't interested in ATC to begin with, but with this drama between Take and Axiom management I'm glad that I haven't watched a single minutes worth of it.
European scene has almost 0 professionalism compared to KeSPA, exactly why I only support Axiom, Quantic, eSF and KeSPA. (Mill too but mostly for ForGG).
Fuck Take, you don't need to answer to that POS Genna. Pretty sure Axiom have been less professional in this than Take has... I am sure the measuring who is more professional is entirely subjective and greatly influenced by personal bias. The moment they posted private conversations they "won" that battle tough. Once again, I would not have done that, but I don’t think it is a huge deal either. At the end of the day, both sides are trying to tell their side of the story and releasing those discussions puts everyone cards on the table. Of course it is a huge deal because it means for anyone who'd want to be involved with Axiom that their managment cannot be trusted because they cannot keep things for themselves. Doing business with people whom you think you can't be fully honest with is hard.
That is true, however most of the people running events and teams already have working relationships with TB and the team and trust them to some degree. Also they have an manager now and TB has said he is taking a step back from voicing his opinions when it comes to the team.
Its was not a great decision, but I don’t think it has done permanent damage to the team and they should be fine. They should not do it in the future unless 100% necessary(such as the other side flat out lying about that they said or did)
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On August 16 2013 13:05 LuckoftheIrish wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 13:02 Daralii wrote:On August 16 2013 13:00 NovemberstOrm wrote:On August 16 2013 12:54 nqqvt3 wrote:
Sorry to see her go, what exactly does that mean for Axiom? Totalbiscuit will be taking over. His first act as manager is tweeting "Fuck Take," so he's off to a good start. :p Not true! Show nested quote +
Totalbiscuit @Totalbiscuit 6m
So eSports is plagued with incompetence, fragile egos, backroom bullshit, people out for themselves and more concerned with saving face
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Totalbiscuit @Totalbiscuit 6m
I just want to make that abundantly clear for those who didn't know. Similar I'd imagine to most entertainment industries.
I love TB and I couldn't agree more. Also for those curious this wasn't the first mishap during the ATC. It's been a pretty bad nightmare and I'll also say this. It goes both ways.
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