EPTWCS Europe S2 Final eight brackets determined - Page 8
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Qikz
United Kingdom12023 Posts
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Merilwen
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remember87
Sweden144 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
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AyaaLa
Spain629 Posts
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
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Crait
Russian Federation2 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
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messioso
Denmark635 Posts
On August 09 2013 19:29 opisska wrote: The "random" draw was pretty funny, because the rules in place don't actually leave a lot of degrees of freedom, even though drawing from 4 and then 4 names seems naively to give you 576 different outcomes. First, you put the 4 second placers - the only thing that matters is who is on the same side of bracket and that gives you only 3 options that are truly different (as order doesn't matter inside the pairs, nor between pairs). Then, because the first place finisher from a group has to be in the other side of the bracket than the secind place finsihers, you just have to draw twice from two, giving you 4 options. Together, there are only 12 ways the matchups may have gone. What is your point? It was completely random within a few set parameters to reward those that finished top of their group by getting a lower seeded player, and to stop a rematch happening before the grand final. | ||
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nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
On August 09 2013 20:12 messioso wrote: What is your point? It was completely random within a few set parameters to reward those that finished top of their group by getting a lower seeded player, and to stop a rematch happening before the grand final. His point is that flipping a coin with two heads is random as well within a few set parameters. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On August 09 2013 11:14 thirtyapm wrote: oh i know this game - 'how many foreigners does it take to beat a korean terran' None. They can't do it (hopefully) => I fixed your question and answered ! And of course it will be TvZ. It's still Summer :p | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On August 09 2013 20:12 messioso wrote: What is your point? It was completely random within a few set parameters to reward those that finished top of their group by getting a lower seeded player, and to stop a rematch happening before the grand final. My point is just the interesting comparison between the apparent and actual level of freedom in the draw. Also, I endeavored to slightly nib at the fact that the way it was presented did not refelct the fact and that the casters were sometimes exctied about information that was either guaranteed or inconsequential. But this was not meant as a critique of the system, the system is aboslutely wonderful in my opinion - and also not really as a critique of the casters, as they are really good at SC2 and thus I don't require them to be equally skilled in combimatorics. So, all in all, just a curious observation. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On August 09 2013 20:26 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Duckdeok wont win this. Welmu showed us how bad duckdeoks PvP is. It is (like all matchups by him) only all ins. Actually finale would've beaten Welmu if he didn't get caught by that one timewarp. And while that's a classic PvP mistake, it doesn't really say anything about his overall PvP. Finale was a Code S protoss. He knows how to macro. | ||
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a3den
704 Posts
On August 09 2013 20:29 DarkLordOlli wrote: Actually finale would've beaten Welmu if he didn't get caught by that one timewarp. And while that's a classic PvP mistake, it doesn't really say anything about his overall PvP. Finale was a Code S protoss. He knows how to macro. I don't believe this, at all. Let's bet then :D | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Siphyo
Netherlands121 Posts
On August 09 2013 09:07 Waxangel wrote: The Season II finals sometimes will take place between August 10th and 11th So not always? | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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Darrkhan
Finland1236 Posts
Welmu 3-1 MC Duckdeok 3-1 Naniwa Vortix 3-1 Grubby Welmu 3-0 Hasuobs Duckdeok 3-2 Vortix Welmu 4-1 Duckdeok ^Easy | ||
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