On August 03 2013 12:33 Grimmyman123 wrote: Basic things that people need to learn in the basic business world that pertain to this thread.
I'm not going to sugar coat it. If you disagree or my presentation is too harsh for you, hold your tongue, because to be frank I won't even read your reply let along acknowledge it.
1) Skype is annonymous. Anyone can make an account and pretend to be someone they are not. Reputable business people and businesses and sponsors have LAND LINES. Skype is only convenient because it is free. Razer, Steelseries, major sponsors, major bank rolls, are NOT going to call you solely on skype. "e-sports" relies far too much on skype, and here is another case where it causes headache. Skype cannot be traced or tracked easily.
2) Contracts. Nothing is going to happen unless there is a contract. There might some loose negotiation or hints etc, but you are not going to get anything without a proper contract. The contract will contain proper names, addresses, and it will come to you signed by the sponsor. Promises that stuff is in the mail or courier, but no contract? It probably is bullshit.
3) Check everything out! Reverse search addresses and phone numbers to make sure appearances are what they actually seem! Seriously. Google. It's fucking awesome. In Canada,, for 8 bucks, I can search a surname and a given name, and tell you which bank your mortgage on your house is through, and for how much. There are a ton of resources available, but no one uses them or even knows how. At the VERY LEAST: Google phone numbers. Where do they go, who owns them.
4) If you provide logs or data to a 3rd party - you made that information public. It is now fair game. You cannot redact it after the fact "that was private!". It's like telling fuckslasher some major peice of news and then calling him an hour later asking him to keep it off the record - its already in print and like he cares about it being off the record, he'll find a way to get it in print. If the log or chat was exceedingly damning, and you shared it, damn straight it should be public. The only time someone wants to distance themselves is if something in the evidence is either a lie or is bullshit, or will lead to revealing a lie or other bullshit.
5) If it is to good to be true, it likely is. Imaginary special prototype keyboards? To a C Team? That didnt raise any red flags?
6) Hold people accountable. If someone says they are providing X equipment- hold them too it. If you cannot hold them to it, you haven't confirmed who,where,what they are and how to contact and pursue them. Red flags again.
7) If you have no business savvy or know someone reliable to help on the business side of things, don't try and run a pro gaming team. You are in a position to control people's lives, carreers etc. And you'll probably fuck it up, fuck over your players, and just piss people off and ruin lives.
8) Clans are not Teams. Clans are a bunch of friends playing some video games. Teams are where a group of people have organised structure, coaches, management. Professionally operated and maintained, rules,, statistics tracking and sales etc. Don't confuse the two.
I hope these poiints help.
This sMI fiasco is proof of how amateur and desperate for support SC2 teams are, and how they need proper backing in the form of a busy and extensive competitive tournament scene, instead of 3 MLG's a year and a joke of a WCS championship. But that's a different problem altogether.
I'm glad that some people at least understand these things. +1 to you
And Im glad some people present obvious stuff like its some sort of secret knowledge so they make themselves look good.
You'd be damn surprised, how basic knowledge passes most people by.
Though unrelated, do you have any clue how many grand final's I've watched where the winner has NO FUCKING CLUE how to shake and spray champagne? Like really! Koreans just shake the bottle and watch the suds fling around. No idea to stopper the top with the thumb. Apparently the same applies to basic business practices. Kids are trying to run businesses but they don't even know how to polish a pair of shoes, let alone how to read a contract or perform proper business.
On August 04 2013 06:24 Xorphene wrote: Many of the responses in this thread make me lose even more faith in this community and make me realise that leaving SC2 behind was a good decision.
For some reason you are posting in SC2 related thread
On August 04 2013 03:58 sMi.SyMPhOnY wrote: oh i wish we were allsmart as these teamliquid nerds lelele... either way, like i said before, these events didn't transpire all at once and took a couple weeks to demonstrate their non-legitimacy. Realize that sMi was practically dead before this, which allowed for a multitude of management changes and player recruitments that were all unfortunately led by nanocloud and more unfortunately by anderson. Many here on team liquid would advocate for how Esports in NA is in an amatuer condition; This makes easy targets for manipulators like Anderson....Though he got nothing from this except bad press (nanocloud too)....shit happens
---> 2 Scammers revealed in this thread, Perhaps save some face damage in the future for unsuspecting teams..
Wait, so you're saying the whole reason for sMi's return was because of this anderson troll? So what now, will you guys soldier on or die?
There were multiple references to being able to acquire keyboards for $20/ea, was the deal that Anderson would supply the keyboards at a discounted price? Was this all a scam to get like a few hundred bucks out of you guys lol?
Also, did none of you wonder how it was that somebody who works at Razer "helping design programming on keyboards" (...?) was a multi-millionaire? Like really, you might need more than one hand to count the number of people in the USA currently employed as programmers who are multi-millionaires, but you probably wouldn't need many more hands than that.
How did it come to pass that contracts were drawn up and signed without input from the team manager? Aren't there rules about who can enter an organization into a binding agreement?
On August 04 2013 08:21 YumYumGranola wrote: There were multiple references to being able to acquire keyboards for $20/ea, was the deal that Anderson would supply the keyboards at a discounted price? Was this all a scam to get like a few hundred bucks out of you guys lol?
It's been brought up in this thread, but the aim was to scam them out of a cut of their tournament winnings. (Whether there would have been any tournament winnings is only relevant to determining the competence of the scammer)
Also, did none of you wonder how it was that somebody who works at Razer "helping design programming on keyboards" (...?) was a multi-millionaire? Like really, you might need more than one hand to count the number of people in the USA currently employed as programmers who are multi-millionaires, but you probably wouldn't need many more hands than that.
That bit was added by the scammer when DirtyBirD started asking questions about how he was getting these keyboards. Also, DirtyBirD proceeded to email Razer and ask them to confirm this ludicrous story.
How did it come to pass that contracts were drawn up and signed without input from the team manager? Aren't there rules about who can enter an organization into a binding agreement?
The scammer apparently drew up the contracts and mailed them to players, leaving it up to the players to get the false impression that the contracts have been cleared with management.
On August 03 2013 12:33 Grimmyman123 wrote: Basic things that people need to learn in the basic business world that pertain to this thread.
I'm not going to sugar coat it. If you disagree or my presentation is too harsh for you, hold your tongue, because to be frank I won't even read your reply let along acknowledge it.
1) Skype is annonymous. Anyone can make an account and pretend to be someone they are not. Reputable business people and businesses and sponsors have LAND LINES. Skype is only convenient because it is free. Razer, Steelseries, major sponsors, major bank rolls, are NOT going to call you solely on skype. "e-sports" relies far too much on skype, and here is another case where it causes headache. Skype cannot be traced or tracked easily.
2) Contracts. Nothing is going to happen unless there is a contract. There might some loose negotiation or hints etc, but you are not going to get anything without a proper contract. The contract will contain proper names, addresses, and it will come to you signed by the sponsor. Promises that stuff is in the mail or courier, but no contract? It probably is bullshit.
3) Check everything out! Reverse search addresses and phone numbers to make sure appearances are what they actually seem! Seriously. Google. It's fucking awesome. In Canada,, for 8 bucks, I can search a surname and a given name, and tell you which bank your mortgage on your house is through, and for how much. There are a ton of resources available, but no one uses them or even knows how. At the VERY LEAST: Google phone numbers. Where do they go, who owns them.
4) If you provide logs or data to a 3rd party - you made that information public. It is now fair game. You cannot redact it after the fact "that was private!". It's like telling fuckslasher some major peice of news and then calling him an hour later asking him to keep it off the record - its already in print and like he cares about it being off the record, he'll find a way to get it in print. If the log or chat was exceedingly damning, and you shared it, damn straight it should be public. The only time someone wants to distance themselves is if something in the evidence is either a lie or is bullshit, or will lead to revealing a lie or other bullshit.
5) If it is to good to be true, it likely is. Imaginary special prototype keyboards? To a C Team? That didnt raise any red flags?
6) Hold people accountable. If someone says they are providing X equipment- hold them too it. If you cannot hold them to it, you haven't confirmed who,where,what they are and how to contact and pursue them. Red flags again.
7) If you have no business savvy or know someone reliable to help on the business side of things, don't try and run a pro gaming team. You are in a position to control people's lives, carreers etc. And you'll probably fuck it up, fuck over your players, and just piss people off and ruin lives.
8) Clans are not Teams. Clans are a bunch of friends playing some video games. Teams are where a group of people have organised structure, coaches, management. Professionally operated and maintained, rules,, statistics tracking and sales etc. Don't confuse the two.
I hope these poiints help.
This sMI fiasco is proof of how amateur and desperate for support SC2 teams are, and how they need proper backing in the form of a busy and extensive competitive tournament scene, instead of 3 MLG's a year and a joke of a WCS championship. But that's a different problem altogether.
I'm glad that some people at least understand these things. +1 to you
And Im glad some people present obvious stuff like its some sort of secret knowledge so they make themselves look good.
You'd be damn surprised, how basic knowledge passes most people by.
Though unrelated, do you have any clue how many grand final's I've watched where the winner has NO FUCKING CLUE how to shake and spray champagne? Like really! Koreans just shake the bottle and watch the suds fling around. No idea to stopper the top with the thumb. Apparently the same applies to basic business practices. Kids are trying to run businesses but they don't even know how to polish a pair of shoes, let alone how to read a contract or perform proper business.
Hm, so proper champagne spraying technique is "basic knowledge" ... I suppose knowing how to set up a croquet game falls into that category too? What about polishing gold ingots?
It's a good thing this guy was lacking Intelligence, wisdom and any form of planning while trying to scam a poor team with 0 funds.
Honestly this is so amateur it's not even funny, sorry for you guys that actualy believed in a sponsorship, that atleast is a painful thing for a team to have hopes and it is getting crushed by what is a guy trying to be an online bully.
On August 03 2013 12:33 Grimmyman123 wrote: Basic things that people need to learn in the basic business world that pertain to this thread.
I'm not going to sugar coat it. If you disagree or my presentation is too harsh for you, hold your tongue, because to be frank I won't even read your reply let along acknowledge it.
1) Skype is annonymous. Anyone can make an account and pretend to be someone they are not. Reputable business people and businesses and sponsors have LAND LINES. Skype is only convenient because it is free. Razer, Steelseries, major sponsors, major bank rolls, are NOT going to call you solely on skype. "e-sports" relies far too much on skype, and here is another case where it causes headache. Skype cannot be traced or tracked easily.
2) Contracts. Nothing is going to happen unless there is a contract. There might some loose negotiation or hints etc, but you are not going to get anything without a proper contract. The contract will contain proper names, addresses, and it will come to you signed by the sponsor. Promises that stuff is in the mail or courier, but no contract? It probably is bullshit.
3) Check everything out! Reverse search addresses and phone numbers to make sure appearances are what they actually seem! Seriously. Google. It's fucking awesome. In Canada,, for 8 bucks, I can search a surname and a given name, and tell you which bank your mortgage on your house is through, and for how much. There are a ton of resources available, but no one uses them or even knows how. At the VERY LEAST: Google phone numbers. Where do they go, who owns them.
4) If you provide logs or data to a 3rd party - you made that information public. It is now fair game. You cannot redact it after the fact "that was private!". It's like telling fuckslasher some major peice of news and then calling him an hour later asking him to keep it off the record - its already in print and like he cares about it being off the record, he'll find a way to get it in print. If the log or chat was exceedingly damning, and you shared it, damn straight it should be public. The only time someone wants to distance themselves is if something in the evidence is either a lie or is bullshit, or will lead to revealing a lie or other bullshit.
5) If it is to good to be true, it likely is. Imaginary special prototype keyboards? To a C Team? That didnt raise any red flags?
6) Hold people accountable. If someone says they are providing X equipment- hold them too it. If you cannot hold them to it, you haven't confirmed who,where,what they are and how to contact and pursue them. Red flags again.
7) If you have no business savvy or know someone reliable to help on the business side of things, don't try and run a pro gaming team. You are in a position to control people's lives, carreers etc. And you'll probably fuck it up, fuck over your players, and just piss people off and ruin lives.
8) Clans are not Teams. Clans are a bunch of friends playing some video games. Teams are where a group of people have organised structure, coaches, management. Professionally operated and maintained, rules,, statistics tracking and sales etc. Don't confuse the two.
I hope these poiints help.
This sMI fiasco is proof of how amateur and desperate for support SC2 teams are, and how they need proper backing in the form of a busy and extensive competitive tournament scene, instead of 3 MLG's a year and a joke of a WCS championship. But that's a different problem altogether.
I'm glad that some people at least understand these things. +1 to you
And Im glad some people present obvious stuff like its some sort of secret knowledge so they make themselves look good.
You'd be damn surprised, how basic knowledge passes most people by.
Though unrelated, do you have any clue how many grand final's I've watched where the winner has NO FUCKING CLUE how to shake and spray champagne? Like really! Koreans just shake the bottle and watch the suds fling around. No idea to stopper the top with the thumb. Apparently the same applies to basic business practices. Kids are trying to run businesses but they don't even know how to polish a pair of shoes, let alone how to read a contract or perform proper business.
Hm, so proper champagne spraying technique is "basic knowledge" ... I suppose knowing how to set up a croquet game falls into that category too? What about polishing gold ingots?
Do I know how to do those things? yes, yes and yes.
Basic knowledge. The example I used is a VERY basic thing we learn as children, and is VERY SIMPLE physics in action.
Unfortunately, the basic prinicpals and ideas and how it relates to the thread and the discussion/quote was completely lost on you. Move on to another thread.
On August 03 2013 12:33 Grimmyman123 wrote: Basic things that people need to learn in the basic business world that pertain to this thread.
I'm not going to sugar coat it. If you disagree or my presentation is too harsh for you, hold your tongue, because to be frank I won't even read your reply let along acknowledge it.
1) Skype is annonymous. Anyone can make an account and pretend to be someone they are not. Reputable business people and businesses and sponsors have LAND LINES. Skype is only convenient because it is free. Razer, Steelseries, major sponsors, major bank rolls, are NOT going to call you solely on skype. "e-sports" relies far too much on skype, and here is another case where it causes headache. Skype cannot be traced or tracked easily.
2) Contracts. Nothing is going to happen unless there is a contract. There might some loose negotiation or hints etc, but you are not going to get anything without a proper contract. The contract will contain proper names, addresses, and it will come to you signed by the sponsor. Promises that stuff is in the mail or courier, but no contract? It probably is bullshit.
3) Check everything out! Reverse search addresses and phone numbers to make sure appearances are what they actually seem! Seriously. Google. It's fucking awesome. In Canada,, for 8 bucks, I can search a surname and a given name, and tell you which bank your mortgage on your house is through, and for how much. There are a ton of resources available, but no one uses them or even knows how. At the VERY LEAST: Google phone numbers. Where do they go, who owns them.
4) If you provide logs or data to a 3rd party - you made that information public. It is now fair game. You cannot redact it after the fact "that was private!". It's like telling fuckslasher some major peice of news and then calling him an hour later asking him to keep it off the record - its already in print and like he cares about it being off the record, he'll find a way to get it in print. If the log or chat was exceedingly damning, and you shared it, damn straight it should be public. The only time someone wants to distance themselves is if something in the evidence is either a lie or is bullshit, or will lead to revealing a lie or other bullshit.
5) If it is to good to be true, it likely is. Imaginary special prototype keyboards? To a C Team? That didnt raise any red flags?
6) Hold people accountable. If someone says they are providing X equipment- hold them too it. If you cannot hold them to it, you haven't confirmed who,where,what they are and how to contact and pursue them. Red flags again.
7) If you have no business savvy or know someone reliable to help on the business side of things, don't try and run a pro gaming team. You are in a position to control people's lives, carreers etc. And you'll probably fuck it up, fuck over your players, and just piss people off and ruin lives.
8) Clans are not Teams. Clans are a bunch of friends playing some video games. Teams are where a group of people have organised structure, coaches, management. Professionally operated and maintained, rules,, statistics tracking and sales etc. Don't confuse the two.
I hope these poiints help.
This sMI fiasco is proof of how amateur and desperate for support SC2 teams are, and how they need proper backing in the form of a busy and extensive competitive tournament scene, instead of 3 MLG's a year and a joke of a WCS championship. But that's a different problem altogether.
I'm glad that some people at least understand these things. +1 to you
And Im glad some people present obvious stuff like its some sort of secret knowledge so they make themselves look good.
You'd be damn surprised, how basic knowledge passes most people by.
Though unrelated, do you have any clue how many grand final's I've watched where the winner has NO FUCKING CLUE how to shake and spray champagne? Like really! Koreans just shake the bottle and watch the suds fling around. No idea to stopper the top with the thumb. Apparently the same applies to basic business practices. Kids are trying to run businesses but they don't even know how to polish a pair of shoes, let alone how to read a contract or perform proper business.
Hm, so proper champagne spraying technique is "basic knowledge" ... I suppose knowing how to set up a croquet game falls into that category too? What about polishing gold ingots?
Do I know how to do those things? yes, yes and yes.
Basic knowledge. The example I used is a VERY basic thing we learn as children, and is VERY SIMPLE physics in action.
Unfortunately, the basic prinicpals and ideas and how it relates to the thread and the discussion/quote was completely lost on you. Move on to another thread.
I think the point is that not everyone has the time/means to learn how to shake and spray champagne (or set up croquet games or polish gold ingots). Let alone they learned this "as children". You seem quite proud of the fact that you do, but it does make you come across as somewhat of a bigot.
Ok, I posted something about Nanocloud trying to get into Quantic Academy with 4 other guys earlier but he messaged me to please take it down because he didn't want his reputation destroyed. Now, I have decided that I don't want to keep quiet anymore as I have found out that he has been lying to other people. Here's the deal, Nanocloud went up to me asking if he and 4 other guys can get into Quantic Academy with him as coach/manager. I declined him because our roster was full and taking in 5 players would be ridiculous, there was also some negative feedback about him. I have also heard previously that he was telling other people that he could get his 5 into our Quantic Academy easily without even talking to me and today after talking to another manager, that rumor about him saying that Quantic wanting them was indeed true.
[29.07.13 00:15:20] Pascal Anton: may i ask you [29.07.13 00:15:30] Pascal Anton: who is yume? [29.07.13 00:15:36] Milad: he was from sca [29.07.13 00:15:38] Milad: then we kicked him for bm [29.07.13 00:15:42] Milad: now he is on quantic academy [29.07.13 00:16:05] Milad: but quantic management and few other teams want us [29.07.13 00:16:14] Milad: and we were told from a friend of mine that you might also have financial [29.07.13 00:16:15] Milad: backing [29.07.13 00:16:18] Milad: to support us
Anton Pascal is the manager of another up and coming team who I gave Nanocloud's contact to in order for me to be able to help him a bit. The conversation I have posted here is the first time Nanocloud and Anton talk, during the conversation Nanocloud claims that Quantic management wants them as part of their team right after I declined them entry to our team. I never wanted all of this to go out in the open, but I feel that the lying should stop. I feel really bad for the other four players along with him as they are really really talented players and they deserve to be able to find a good home. To the four players with Nanocloud I wish you good luck in a finding a team, and to Nanocloud please do not use other team's name in order to gain favor for yourself. GLHF
I'm really impressed by the level of drama this thread is reaching. The very sad part being the NA suffering from that kind of behavior. Hopefully it's not so widespread as the numerous accusations and facts seem to support.
On August 04 2013 18:04 QuanticDualan wrote: Ok, I posted something about Nanocloud trying to get into Quantic Academy with 4 other guys earlier, but he messaged me to please take it down because he didn't want his reputation destroyed. Now I have decided that I don't want to keep quiet anymore as I have found out that he has been lying to other people. Here's the deal, Nanocloud went up to me asking if he and 4 other guys can get into Quantic Academy with him as coach/manager. I declined him because our roster was full and taking in 5 players would be ridiculous, there was also some negative feedback about him. I have also heard previously that he was telling other people that he could get his 5 into our Quantic Academy easily without even talking to me and today after talking to another manager, that rumor about him saying that Quantic wanting them was indeed true.
[29.07.13 00:15:20] Pascal Anton: may i ask you [29.07.13 00:15:30] Pascal Anton: who is yume? [29.07.13 00:15:36] Milad: he was from sca [29.07.13 00:15:38] Milad: then we kicked him for bm [29.07.13 00:15:42] Milad: now he is on quantic academy [29.07.13 00:16:05] Milad: but quantic management and few other teams want us [29.07.13 00:16:14] Milad: and we were told from a friend of mine that you might also have financial [29.07.13 00:16:15] Milad: backing [29.07.13 00:16:18] Milad: to support us
Anton Pascal is the manager of another up and coming team who I gave Nanocloud's contact to in order for me to be able to help him a bit. The conversation I have posted here is the first time Nanocloud and Anton talk, during the conversation Nanocloud claims that Quantic management wants them as part of their team right after I declined them entry to our team. I never wanted all of this to go out in the open, but I feel that the lying should stop. I feel really bad for the other four players along with him as they are really really talented players and they deserve to be able to find a good home. To the four players with Nanocloud I wish you good luck in a finding a team, and to Nanocloud please do not use other team's name in order to gain favor for yourself. GLHF
Yume was definitely not "kicked" from .SCA due to bm, nanocloud is always telling the biggest lie to people and its honestly pretty sad. Yume left mainly because of nanocloud consistent trolling and disagreements, and Yume was team captain back then too. Thanks Dualan for showing this, helps a lot to expose who nanocloud really is as a person. Also reputation? That's hilarious because I'm pretty sure no one knows who he is..
On August 03 2013 12:33 Grimmyman123 wrote: Basic things that people need to learn in the basic business world that pertain to this thread.
I'm not going to sugar coat it. If you disagree or my presentation is too harsh for you, hold your tongue, because to be frank I won't even read your reply let along acknowledge it.
1) Skype is annonymous. Anyone can make an account and pretend to be someone they are not. Reputable business people and businesses and sponsors have LAND LINES. Skype is only convenient because it is free. Razer, Steelseries, major sponsors, major bank rolls, are NOT going to call you solely on skype. "e-sports" relies far too much on skype, and here is another case where it causes headache. Skype cannot be traced or tracked easily.
2) Contracts. Nothing is going to happen unless there is a contract. There might some loose negotiation or hints etc, but you are not going to get anything without a proper contract. The contract will contain proper names, addresses, and it will come to you signed by the sponsor. Promises that stuff is in the mail or courier, but no contract? It probably is bullshit.
3) Check everything out! Reverse search addresses and phone numbers to make sure appearances are what they actually seem! Seriously. Google. It's fucking awesome. In Canada,, for 8 bucks, I can search a surname and a given name, and tell you which bank your mortgage on your house is through, and for how much. There are a ton of resources available, but no one uses them or even knows how. At the VERY LEAST: Google phone numbers. Where do they go, who owns them.
4) If you provide logs or data to a 3rd party - you made that information public. It is now fair game. You cannot redact it after the fact "that was private!". It's like telling fuckslasher some major peice of news and then calling him an hour later asking him to keep it off the record - its already in print and like he cares about it being off the record, he'll find a way to get it in print. If the log or chat was exceedingly damning, and you shared it, damn straight it should be public. The only time someone wants to distance themselves is if something in the evidence is either a lie or is bullshit, or will lead to revealing a lie or other bullshit.
5) If it is to good to be true, it likely is. Imaginary special prototype keyboards? To a C Team? That didnt raise any red flags?
6) Hold people accountable. If someone says they are providing X equipment- hold them too it. If you cannot hold them to it, you haven't confirmed who,where,what they are and how to contact and pursue them. Red flags again.
7) If you have no business savvy or know someone reliable to help on the business side of things, don't try and run a pro gaming team. You are in a position to control people's lives, carreers etc. And you'll probably fuck it up, fuck over your players, and just piss people off and ruin lives.
8) Clans are not Teams. Clans are a bunch of friends playing some video games. Teams are where a group of people have organised structure, coaches, management. Professionally operated and maintained, rules,, statistics tracking and sales etc. Don't confuse the two.
I hope these poiints help.
This sMI fiasco is proof of how amateur and desperate for support SC2 teams are, and how they need proper backing in the form of a busy and extensive competitive tournament scene, instead of 3 MLG's a year and a joke of a WCS championship. But that's a different problem altogether.
I'm glad that some people at least understand these things. +1 to you
And Im glad some people present obvious stuff like its some sort of secret knowledge so they make themselves look good.
You'd be damn surprised, how basic knowledge passes most people by.
Though unrelated, do you have any clue how many grand final's I've watched where the winner has NO FUCKING CLUE how to shake and spray champagne? Like really! Koreans just shake the bottle and watch the suds fling around. No idea to stopper the top with the thumb. Apparently the same applies to basic business practices. Kids are trying to run businesses but they don't even know how to polish a pair of shoes, let alone how to read a contract or perform proper business.
Hm, so proper champagne spraying technique is "basic knowledge" ... I suppose knowing how to set up a croquet game falls into that category too? What about polishing gold ingots?
Do I know how to do those things? yes, yes and yes.
Basic knowledge. The example I used is a VERY basic thing we learn as children, and is VERY SIMPLE physics in action.
Unfortunately, the basic prinicpals and ideas and how it relates to the thread and the discussion/quote was completely lost on you. Move on to another thread.
It's sad to see people doing this to teams that have worked hard to get where they are now. I feel you handled this very well Dirtybird and I'm glad you caught him out before he was able to do any serious damage to yourself and the team.
Best of luck to all of the sMi team and I hope you land a good legit sponsor/investor in future.
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