EPTAnd let's be honest, the only good players who ever were "truly" sMi were myself, wannabcool, and nony. Of course there are other legends like Brett and DB (despite the most mysterious disappearance in e-sports history). And Brian. Not Spades. What was his game tag again? That dude was awesome.
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And let's be honest, the only good players who ever were "truly" sMi were myself, wannabcool, and nony. Of course there are other legends like Brett and DB (despite the most mysterious disappearance in e-sports history). And Brian. Not Spades. What was his game tag again? That dude was awesome. | ||
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On August 05 2013 04:39 NanoClouD wrote: Here was the real message. [7/28/2013 6:15:15 PM] Pascal Anton: may i ask you [7/28/2013 6:15:25 PM] Pascal Anton: who is yume? [7/28/2013 6:15:30 PM] Milad: he was from sca [7/28/2013 6:15:38 PM] Milad: then he left to search for another team [7/28/2013 6:15:40 PM] Milad: he kept trying to abuse his captain power and people didn’t like it. [7/28/2013 6:15:46 PM] Milad: now he is on quantic academy [7/28/2013 6:15:50 PM] Milad: I think he is on academy team. He streams still. [7/28/2013 6:15:59 PM] Milad: we spoke to a few quantic players, it would be cool to join them. [7/28/2013 6:16:05 PM] Milad: but quantic management is only interested in a few of our players. [7/28/2013 6:16:30 PM] Milad : A manager from quantic told me your team had financial backing? [7/28/2013 6:16:30 PM] Milad: to support us all? That is the actual conversation. Also I reference interested in a few players from the following message from JM. [7/26/2013 11:25:11 PM] Milad "sMi.NanoClouD": It would've been nice to be part of the quantic family but if thats not possible t hen we will try other teams. Thanks for time. [7/26/2013 11:25:19 PM] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: thanks as well [7/26/2013 11:28:49 PM] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: to be very honest though, I am highly interested in jonsnow as he impressed me in ATC qualifiers against EG Anyway, here is more of the convo. [7/28/2013 6:27:40 PM] Pascal Anton: LYGF is member of the gaming network [7/28/2013 6:27:54 PM] Pascal Anton: so [7/28/2013 6:28:05 PM] Pascal Anton: i tell you how the situation i [7/28/2013 6:28:05 PM] Pascal Anton: s [7/28/2013 6:28:08 PM] Pascal Anton: around LYGF [7/28/2013 6:30:09 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": sure give me some details [7/28/2013 6:30:12 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": we arent familiar with Lygf [7/28/2013 6:30:34 PM] Pascal Anton: www.loveyourgirlfriend.net [7/28/2013 6:30:42 PM] Pascal Anton: sorry, i just have so many convos open xD [7/28/2013 6:30:49 PM] Pascal Anton: so what we do [7/28/2013 6:30:55 PM] Pascal Anton: usually is paying pro gamers [7/28/2013 6:30:59 PM] Pascal Anton: a montly salary [7/28/2013 6:31:09 PM] Pascal Anton: that might be higher than from other clans [7/28/2013 6:31:36 PM] Pascal Anton: on the other hand, we don't have much money left for big tournaments for every player [7/28/2013 6:31:38 PM] Pascal Anton: you understand? [7/28/2013 6:31:43 PM] Pascal Anton: but [7/28/2013 6:31:47 PM] Pascal Anton: when a player comes to me [7/28/2013 6:31:58 PM] Pascal Anton: and tells me his priorities [7/28/2013 6:32:03 PM] Pascal Anton: then for sure we can talk [7/28/2013 6:32:05 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": sure [7/28/2013 6:32:11 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": and we dont expect that from day one or anything [7/28/2013 6:33:20 PM] Milad "NanoClouD: who are your sponsors? [7/28/2013 6:33:26 PM] Milad "NanoClouD how much do you think you could afford to pay players? [7/28/2013 6:34:03 PM] Pascal Anton: we are currently talking to a new sponsor [7/28/2013 6:34:10 PM] Milad "NanoClouD: oh nice [7/28/2013 6:34:11 PM] Pascal Anton: a big european company [7/28/2013 6:34:17 PM] Milad "NanoClouD thats exciting [7/28/2013 6:34:21 PM] Pascal Anton: and they said they need one more week [7/28/2013 6:34:28 PM] Pascal Anton: to decide how much they wanna give us [7/28/2013 6:34:28 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : awesome [7/28/2013 6:34:32 PM] Pascal Anton: so [7/28/2013 6:34:36 PM] Pascal Anton: in case that happens [7/28/2013 6:34:39 PM] Pascal Anton: we can pay  [7/28/2013 6:34:45 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": ok well let me know in weeks time [7/28/2013 6:34:49 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : i dont think we will amke a decision [7/28/2013 6:34:52 PM] Pascal Anton: we have some small sponsors right now [7/28/2013 6:34:53 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": until atleast another week [7/28/2013 6:34:59 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : do you guys give gear to players? [7/28/2013 6:35:02 PM] Pascal Anton: yes [7/28/2013 6:35:08 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": ah thats also nice [7/28/2013 6:35:10 PM] Pascal Anton: 100 percent paid to pro players [7/28/2013 6:35:19 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : hmm? [7/28/2013 6:35:24 PM] Pascal Anton: i meant [7/28/2013 6:35:29 PM] Pascal Anton: we pay 100 percent [7/28/2013 6:35:32 PM] Pascal Anton: of the gear [7/28/2013 6:35:33 PM] Pascal Anton: [7/28/2013 6:35:37 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": ooo [7/28/2013 6:35:38 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : gotcha [7/28/2013 6:35:47 PM] Pascal Anton: but of course according to contract [7/28/2013 6:35:53 PM] Pascal Anton: players cant come every week [7/28/2013 6:35:58 PM] Pascal Anton: and ask for new stuff [7/28/2013 6:36:01 PM] Pascal Anton: thats just too much ofc [7/28/2013 6:36:09 PM] Pascal Anton: since you don't need new stuff each week [7/28/2013 6:36:16 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": absolutely [7/28/2013 6:36:18 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : i agree [7/28/2013 6:36:21 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : you have contracts right? [7/28/2013 6:37:35 PM] Pascal Anton: yes [7/28/2013 6:37:46 PM] Pascal Anton: according to international laws [7/28/2013 6:37:57 PM] Pascal Anton: so our contracts are real contracts [7/28/2013 6:37:57 PM] Pascal Anton: [7/28/2013 6:38:05 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": thats great [7/28/2013 6:38:12 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": we like nice contracts that are clear and detailed [7/28/2013 6:38:16 PM] Pascal Anton: yes [7/28/2013 6:38:17 PM] Pascal Anton: without [7/28/2013 6:38:20 PM] Pascal Anton: im not gonna do it [7/28/2013 6:38:21 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : what range do you think you could pay us if the big sponsor doesnt happen? [7/28/2013 6:38:21 PM] Pascal Anton:  [7/28/2013 6:38:28 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" and what range do you think you could pay us if b ig sponsor does happen? [7/28/2013 6:38:38 PM] Pascal Anton: without sponsor? [7/28/2013 6:38:42 PM] Pascal Anton: hmmmm [7/28/2013 6:38:46 PM] Pascal Anton: 3 players? [7/28/2013 6:38:57 PM] Pascal Anton: i cant pay 3 players without sponsor [7/28/2013 6:39:03 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : ah ok [7/28/2013 6:39:08 PM] Pascal Anton: with sponsor i think around 200-300 [7/28/2013 6:39:12 PM] Pascal Anton: a month [7/28/2013 6:39:15 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : usd? [7/28/2013 6:39:19 PM] Pascal Anton: euros [7/28/2013 6:39:27 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : oh nice [7/28/2013 6:39:27 PM] Pascal Anton: we pay in euros [7/28/2013 6:39:52 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : well please keep in contact and let me know Then the other half of our conversation was about clarity gaming and apparently how this manager thinks they are a scam. [7/30/2013 7:11:07 PM] Pascal Anton: i scrolled up [7/30/2013 7:11:16 PM] Pascal Anton: until june 10th [7/30/2013 7:11:17 PM] Pascal Anton: no luck [7/30/2013 7:11:20 PM] Pascal Anton: maybe they deleted it [7/30/2013 10:30:51 PM] Pascal Anton: they don't pay salaries [7/30/2013 10:31:01 PM] Pascal Anton: and they love smacktalking about all clans [7/30/2013 10:31:21 PM] Pascal Anton: this is from a manager of a well known clan [7/30/2013 10:31:23 PM] Pascal Anton: he just told me [7/30/2013 10:31:59 PM] Pascal Anton: no [7/30/2013 10:32:00 PM] Pascal Anton: way bigger clan [7/30/2013 10:32:09 PM] Pascal Anton: sorry , im not gonna tell you the name ; [7/30/2013 10:32:10 PM] Pascal Anton: [7/30/2013 10:32:13 PM] Pascal Anton: i hope you understand [7/30/2013 10:32:16 PM] Milad oh  [7/30/2013 10:32:17 PM] Milad : its ok [7/30/2013 10:32:23 PM] Milad : i just want credibility in statements haha [7/30/2013 10:32:25 PM] Pascal Anton: but cg is more or less scam [7/30/2013 10:32:34 PM] Pascal Anton: well [7/30/2013 10:32:37 PM] Pascal Anton: what can i say [7/30/2013 10:32:45 PM] Pascal Anton: all im trying to do is to warn you [7/30/2013 10:32:52 PM] Milad : yah but my friends [7/30/2013 10:32:54 PM] Milad : are asking [7/30/2013 10:33:02 PM] Milad: "nano is it a big team saying this? which team?" [7/30/2013 10:33:07 PM] Milad : it just makes it stronger that w ay [7/30/2013 10:33:08 PM] Milad: [7/30/2013 10:34:08 PM] Pascal Anton: what you mean? [7/30/2013 10:34:12 PM] Miladi: i promise it will just be between you and me [7/30/2013 10:34:15 PM] Milad i just want to tell players [7/30/2013 10:34:19 PM] Miladi: "trust me i have good source" [7/30/2013 10:34:22 PM] Pascal Anton: you really promise, ok? [7/30/2013 10:34:24 PM] Milad : ok [7/30/2013 10:34:25 PM] Pascal Anton: so no bullshit [7/30/2013 10:34:27 PM] Milad: no [7/30/2013 10:34:29 PM] Pascal Anton: quantic [7/30/2013 10:34:35 PM] Milad : who in quantic? [7/30/2013 10:34:36 PM] Milad: JM? [7/30/2013 10:34:50 PM] Pascal Anton: .......... [7/30/2013 10:34:54 PM] Pascal Anton: dude [7/30/2013 10:35:00 PM] Pascal Anton: you're killing me here... [7/30/2013 10:35:11 PM] Milad: sorry but only person [7/30/2013 10:35:13 PM] Milad : i trust in quantic [7/30/2013 10:35:14 PM] Milad : is JM. [7/30/2013 10:35:16 PM] Milad : lol [7/30/2013 10:35:22 PM] Pascal Anton: hold on [7/30/2013 10:35:24 PM] Milad: he is good guy [7/30/2013 10:35:24 PM] Milad : ok [7/30/2013 10:39:23 PM] Pascal Anton: me too [7/30/2013 10:39:44 PM] Pascal Anton: so [7/30/2013 10:39:48 PM] Pascal Anton: you watched dragon lately? [7/30/2013 10:39:56 PM] Pascal Anton: it says more than words can say [7/30/2013 10:40:11 PM] Milad : what you mean? [7/30/2013 10:40:19 PM] Pascal Anton: he is super sad [7/30/2013 10:40:23 PM] Pascal Anton: playing bad on purpose [7/30/2013 10:40:26 PM] Milad: why he sad? [7/30/2013 10:40:31 PM] Pascal Anton: on his main cg account [7/30/2013 10:40:55 PM] Milad: what happend [7/30/2013 10:40:55 PM] Milad: ? [7/30/2013 10:36:06 PM] Pascal Anton: [31.07.13 04:27:23] Pascal Anton: you said he probably is scam [31.07.13 04:27:28] Pascal Anton: this is how clarity called us [31.07.13 04:27:29] Pascal Anton: xD [31.07.13 04:27:34] Pascal Anton: haha [31.07.13 04:27:59] Pascal Anton: do they actually pay salaries? i heard no, only when they have donations [31.07.13 04:29:10] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: yeah [31.07.13 04:29:12] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: they don't [31.07.13 04:29:23] Pascal Anton: so who is scam xD [31.07.13 04:29:29] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: lol [31.07.13 04:29:29] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: I don't like them [31.07.13 04:29:36] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: they talked so much smack about us [7/30/2013 10:53:48 PM] Pascal Anton: but seriously now [7/30/2013 10:54:04 PM] Pascal Anton: i didn't tell you this about clarity, because im interested in new players and want them for myself [7/30/2013 10:54:18 PM] Pascal Anton: i get offers every day [7/30/2013 10:54:21 PM] Pascal Anton: really...every day [7/30/2013 10:54:33 PM] Pascal Anton: i don't need to talk bad about other clans [7/30/2013 10:54:41 PM] Pascal Anton: im just being honest and tell you my opinion and experiences [7/30/2013 10:54:44 PM] Pascal Anton: i hope you know that [7/30/2013 10:55:42 PM] Milad: yah i do [7/30/2013 10:32:50 PM] Pascal Anton: its up to you what you decide This team offered us 200-300 Euros, told us Clarity was a scam, and told me the source he had was Quantic JM. This 200-300 Euro thing sounds just as big of a scam as smi's promises. Also Rei, I know that people reading through all your comments will quickly realize that you were part of smi from the get go. You were here from day 1 when Anderson Barrett approached your team. You dont have an excuse such as "I wasn't here to supervise anything." Tim Dirtybird was legitimately away at the beginning. You've always been here and were a manager of the team! Dont think I dont know that you and Anderson Barrett were on the same wavelength. I'm not inclined to believe a 35+yrold man would have no clue that Anderson was trying to scam us players. You should've had enough power as assistant manager to Dirtybird to say something. I know that in many of your comments trying to make me look bad, you are trying to save face for smi and yourself. I feel bad for smi getting scammed by anderson just as much as the next guy, but dont try shifting attention to a pointless arguement. It doesnt work  I find you just as much to blame as Anderson because you were a manager that was around during the whole situation. You have no excuse. The game I played with you shows that you had GM rating and I had platinum. It was a practice game where I was trying a new build. If you watch the replay, my apm is 0 for quite some time. Why do you think that is? Oh, because I was alt tabbed and writing notes down. I have many more replays where I have 0 apm for durations of the game. I play for my CSL team, I complete at local lans, and I've done pretty well for an amateur player. I'm no where near top tier. Why would I try to pretend I'm better than my skill level. You think by faking it, I would be able to get on a good team? What after that? I would imagine that team would expect me to show my skill via demonstration even if it was a coaching or academy position. The higher up you go in sc2, the more expectations to play in live tournaments, qualifiers, and other events. If anything, the best option if I was faking my skill level would be NOT TO TRY to get on any team. If I wanted to make money off online gaming. I would def switch over to LoL haha. I would gain 0 from paying koreans to play on my account. It is quite hard to make a living playing sc2 unless you are literally the top players in the world. I also would gain nothing in the real world by going around my college and telling people, Hi I'm grandmaster on the NA server. <---- WHAT WOULD THAT GET ME? lol. Aside from strange stares. The only thing I do that is frowned upon is on occasion I boost friends accounts. I usually dont charge anything. We only did that to this Anderson kid because we wanted to see if he was scamming us. Thats why we split the job 4 ways. It was just to see if he would end up paying us. I do know that there are many players who make a source of income from boosting. I dont do that. I boost only close friends. SCA, you guys have a bad reputation already. You are making your own team look bad with the lies you spread. You guys stream snipe, stream cheat, and on various occasions you have ddosed players. I dont know what your goals are as a clan, but I wish you best of luck with your clan. Regardless of the lies spread above, I've decided to take a few months off from NA and switch back to EU full-time. I'm going to work hard on EU and hopefully after all this drama dies down I will come back to NA. I wish everyone good luck. I hope this smi scam was a lesson for everyone and I hope people like Anderson Barrett dont continue to plague e-sports with fake promises of gear/money. Good luck to all my friends from NA! I also wish Sonic, Jonsnow, and Virium the best of luck on a new team(whatever that team is). These guys are great players and well mannered. They kept me sane during the smi scam, and fun practicing 1v1's and playing arcade games with them. GL HF #usafightingty for all those who support me and reached out to me. For a noname player, it was quite nice to see the comments on skype and sc2 that told me to ignore the haters/trolls. This is my last post on this thread. What? what a load of shit. I have NEVER heard pascal talk about any clan or team badly. In fact we talk about pro teams all the time and how we can be like them and improve ourselves as a team. This is a load of shit and I do not believe it for a second. He doesn't even type like this... | ||
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On August 05 2013 09:44 NMxhendralisk wrote: can someone tl;dr the replies to this thread, it seems to be focused on something else nanocloud is immature/liar and this thread needs to die | ||
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On August 05 2013 11:48 .kv wrote: nanocloud is immature/liar and this thread needs to die never | ||
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It is known. But yes on a serious note this thread is old now and should die now. | ||
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On August 05 2013 12:37 Doodsmack wrote: For the sake of humanity please let this thread die. thank you for dumping this thread and keeping it alive. | ||
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, but anyway I got other things to do. I'm just gonna leave the situation as it is | ||
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On August 05 2013 10:26 HTOMario wrote: What? what a load of shit. I have NEVER heard pascal talk about any clan or team badly. In fact we talk about pro teams all the time and how we can be like them and improve ourselves as a team. This is a load of shit and I do not believe it for a second. He doesn't even type like this... To respond to comments made by JM, Mario, OG manager, and others. I've uploaded screenshots of the skype conversation. These are excerts. The total conversation would've been like 30 more images. If you guys really think that I photoshopped 15 images, then I dont know what to say. SKYPE CONVERSATION http://imageshack.us/a/img198/2050/vzpc.png http://imageshack.us/a/img545/7413/4no.png http://imageshack.us/a/img90/2263/jshr.png http://imageshack.us/a/img89/310/l4tq.png http://imageshack.us/a/img853/51/jvm1.png http://imageshack.us/a/img819/6418/5k6b.png http://imageshack.us/a/img837/4440/3iys.png http://imageshack.us/a/img687/2999/wuw3.png http://imageshack.us/a/img266/1065/2bno.png http://imageshack.us/a/img96/1417/p9wz.png http://imageshack.us/a/img560/497/zzrx.png http://imageshack.us/a/img20/8990/66vl.png http://imageshack.us/a/img823/8840/syl6.png http://imageshack.us/a/img209/2613/kvq.png The fact is LYGF called Clarity Gaming a scam. I dont know the reason behind why, perhaps they really didnt want smi players to go to clarity or they really do believe they are a scam. I've spoken to Clarity, and everything that LYGF and JM have said are total lies regarding Clarity as an organization. Please dont believe the comments they made. If you have any specific questions regarding clarity as an organization and their credibility, please contact someone on Clarity. I think the bigger scam is making a claim that you can pay 200-300 euros. Keep it real. Also Mario, I guess this is a rude awakening for you since its the first time you've seen "pascal talk this way or type like this." I know there are many others in this chat that only defended the person because they are friends but I ask you guys to look past friendship and look at the facts. Lets just all manner up, respect each other, stop gossiping about other teams, and hopefully e-sports can become more healthy. adios. p.s. sorry if images are out of order... no idea how to control that. | ||
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On August 05 2013 14:28 NanoClouD wrote: To respond to comments made by JM, Mario, OG manager, and others. I've uploaded screenshots of the skype conversation. These are excerts. The total conversation would've been like 30 more images. If you guys really think that I photoshopped 15 images, then I dont know what to say. SKYPE CONVERSATION http://imageshack.us/a/img198/2050/vzpc.png http://imageshack.us/a/img545/7413/4no.png http://imageshack.us/a/img90/2263/jshr.png http://imageshack.us/a/img89/310/l4tq.png http://imageshack.us/a/img853/51/jvm1.png http://imageshack.us/a/img819/6418/5k6b.png http://imageshack.us/a/img837/4440/3iys.png http://imageshack.us/a/img687/2999/wuw3.png http://imageshack.us/a/img266/1065/2bno.png http://imageshack.us/a/img96/1417/p9wz.png http://imageshack.us/a/img560/497/zzrx.png http://imageshack.us/a/img20/8990/66vl.png http://imageshack.us/a/img823/8840/syl6.png http://imageshack.us/a/img209/2613/kvq.png The fact is LYGF called Clarity Gaming a scam. I dont know the reason behind why, perhaps they really didnt want smi players to go to clarity or they really do believe they are a scam. I've spoken to Clarity, and everything that LYGF and JM have said are total lies regarding Clarity as an organization. Please dont believe the comments they made. If you have any specific questions regarding clarity as an organization and their credibility, please contact someone on Clarity. I think the bigger scam is making a claim that you can pay 200-300 euros. Keep it real. Also Mario, I guess this is a rude awakening for you since its the first time you've seen "pascal talk this way or type like this." I know there are many others in this chat that only defended the person because they are friends but I ask you guys to look past friendship and look at the facts. Lets just all manner up, respect each other, stop gossiping about other teams, and hopefully e-sports can become more healthy. adios. p.s. sorry if images are out of order... no idea how to control that. Dude, Nanocloud get the fuck off TL, you are such a joke right now. Instead of defend the allegations you go right back to what I expected of you. Mud slinging to deflect all the blame on you. Please go try and destroy another community, this one has ousted you. The way you move and act has been noted by too many people at this point, time to reroll buddy. You make up everything that I hate about online communities. Like a fish out of water, and don't keep saying "last post" then post again and again with more bullshit than before. GG NO RE gtfo P.S. When you forge skype conversations make sure you pay attention to the time stamps. | ||
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Until you include those (if what you're saying is even true), the only thing that shows is Pascal may not understand how Clarity runs it's team (I obviously don't know their situation so I don't know if the part about donations is true or not) and his comment about Clarity being a scam may have been uncalled for but also since English isn't his native language, he may not have known the proper term to use ASSUMING he meant to just say it was a bad business model based on what he claims to have seen and heard. Also the part where you asked if oG was the team that made those claims made me laugh a little. | ||
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HTOMario
United States439 Posts
On August 05 2013 14:28 NanoClouD wrote: To respond to comments made by JM, Mario, OG manager, and others. I've uploaded screenshots of the skype conversation. These are excerts. The total conversation would've been like 30 more images. If you guys really think that I photoshopped 15 images, then I dont know what to say. SKYPE CONVERSATION http://imageshack.us/a/img198/2050/vzpc.png http://imageshack.us/a/img545/7413/4no.png http://imageshack.us/a/img90/2263/jshr.png http://imageshack.us/a/img89/310/l4tq.png http://imageshack.us/a/img853/51/jvm1.png http://imageshack.us/a/img819/6418/5k6b.png http://imageshack.us/a/img837/4440/3iys.png http://imageshack.us/a/img687/2999/wuw3.png http://imageshack.us/a/img266/1065/2bno.png http://imageshack.us/a/img96/1417/p9wz.png http://imageshack.us/a/img560/497/zzrx.png http://imageshack.us/a/img20/8990/66vl.png http://imageshack.us/a/img823/8840/syl6.png http://imageshack.us/a/img209/2613/kvq.png The fact is LYGF called Clarity Gaming a scam. I dont know the reason behind why, perhaps they really didnt want smi players to go to clarity or they really do believe they are a scam. I've spoken to Clarity, and everything that LYGF and JM have said are total lies regarding Clarity as an organization. Please dont believe the comments they made. If you have any specific questions regarding clarity as an organization and their credibility, please contact someone on Clarity. I think the bigger scam is making a claim that you can pay 200-300 euros. Keep it real. Also Mario, I guess this is a rude awakening for you since its the first time you've seen "pascal talk this way or type like this." I know there are many others in this chat that only defended the person because they are friends but I ask you guys to look past friendship and look at the facts. Lets just all manner up, respect each other, stop gossiping about other teams, and hopefully e-sports can become more healthy. adios. p.s. sorry if images are out of order... no idea how to control that. You like posting silly things and having that god awful thread on the left side where I was accused of boosting? How about I show our little conversation? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pyywQWk.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9jzEwoJ.jpg) read the bottom of the first screen shot. It says: ignore yume, he wanted me to say that I boosted you to steal your viewers. Hell i even got rank 47 gm on stream today, why would I need to cheat? And btw, pascal can pay those prices because he pays me 300 EURO every month in advance from the first day I joined the team. I don't like to bring up salary but he's no scammer. I also love clarity gaming, I try to play with their players all the time for practice. | ||
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