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United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 00:56:13
August 05 2013 00:35 GMT
#441
Best of luck in the future. Definitely a little more care and prudence next time dealing with something like this. For all members.

And let's be honest, the only good players who ever were "truly" sMi were myself, wannabcool, and nony. Of course there are other legends like Brett and DB (despite the most mysterious disappearance in e-sports history). And Brian. Not Spades. What was his game tag again? That dude was awesome.
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Zimbabwe1756 Posts
August 05 2013 00:44 GMT
#442
can someone tl;dr the replies to this thread, it seems to be focused on something else
Erraa93
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Australia891 Posts
August 05 2013 00:49 GMT
#443
This is the most over the top thing I've ever read
Coramoor
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Canada455 Posts
August 05 2013 00:50 GMT
#444
some people... how incredibly pathetic
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Germany1596 Posts
August 05 2013 01:02 GMT
#445
wtf did i just read...
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
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United States439 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-21 20:02:17
August 05 2013 01:26 GMT
#446
On August 05 2013 04:39 NanoClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 00:23 rei wrote:
On August 04 2013 18:04 QuanticDualan wrote:
Ok, I posted something about Nanocloud trying to get into Quantic Academy with 4 other guys earlier but he messaged me to please take it down because he didn't want his reputation destroyed. Now, I have decided that I don't want to keep quiet anymore as I have found out that he has been lying to other people. Here's the deal, Nanocloud went up to me asking if he and 4 other guys can get into Quantic Academy with him as coach/manager. I declined him because our roster was full and taking in 5 players would be ridiculous, there was also some negative feedback about him. I have also heard previously that he was telling other people that he could get his 5 into our Quantic Academy easily without even talking to me and today after talking to another manager, that rumor about him saying that Quantic wanting them was indeed true.

[29.07.13 00:15:20] Pascal Anton: may i ask you
[29.07.13 00:15:30] Pascal Anton: who is yume?
[29.07.13 00:15:36] Milad: he was from sca
[29.07.13 00:15:38] Milad: then we kicked him for bm
[29.07.13 00:15:42] Milad: now he is on quantic academy
[29.07.13 00:16:05] Milad: but quantic management and few other teams want us
[29.07.13 00:16:14] Milad: and we were told from a friend of mine that you might also have financial
[29.07.13 00:16:15] Milad: backing
[29.07.13 00:16:18] Milad: to support us

Anton Pascal is the manager of another up and coming team who I gave Nanocloud's contact to in order for me to be able to help him a bit. The conversation I have posted here is the first time Nanocloud and Anton talk, during the conversation Nanocloud claims that Quantic management wants them as part of their team right after I declined them entry to our team. I never wanted all of this to go out in the open, but I feel that the lying should stop. I feel really bad for the other four players along with him as they are really really talented players and they deserve to be able to find a good home. To the four players with Nanocloud I wish you good luck in a finding a team, and to Nanocloud please do not use other team's name in order to gain favor for yourself. GLHF


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[8:03:25 AM] Carlos Grijalva: [Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:23 PM] Milad:
hahahaha
dont be looking soon
will take some time
atleast few months
before i get back
hopefully then the drama will all die down

[8:03:33 AM] Carlos Grijalva: [Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:24 PM] Milad:
<<< anyways i wanted to let you guys know
that i'm going to be quitting sc2
i might come back once my wrists get healed up
but i just cant handle the bm/trolls

[8:03:33 AM] Carlos Grijalva: [Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:24 PM] Milad:

<<< probably going to have to namechange again
so many name changes
lol

This is what nanocloud msg one of my players yesterday, He said he will be back, under a new name.


Here was the real message.

[7/28/2013 6:15:15 PM] Pascal Anton: may i ask you
[7/28/2013 6:15:25 PM] Pascal Anton: who is yume?
[7/28/2013 6:15:30 PM] Milad: he was from sca
[7/28/2013 6:15:38 PM] Milad: then he left to search for another team
[7/28/2013 6:15:40 PM] Milad: he kept trying to abuse his captain power and people didn’t like it.
[7/28/2013 6:15:46 PM] Milad: now he is on quantic academy
[7/28/2013 6:15:50 PM] Milad: I think he is on academy team. He streams still.
[7/28/2013 6:15:59 PM] Milad: we spoke to a few quantic players, it would be cool to join them.
[7/28/2013 6:16:05 PM] Milad: but quantic management is only interested in a few of our players.
[7/28/2013 6:16:30 PM] Milad : A manager from quantic told me your team had financial backing?
[7/28/2013 6:16:30 PM] Milad: to support us all?

That is the actual conversation. Also I reference interested in a few players from the following message from JM.

[7/26/2013 11:25:11 PM] Milad "sMi.NanoClouD": It would've been nice to be part of the quantic family but if thats not possible t hen we will try other teams. Thanks for time.
[7/26/2013 11:25:19 PM] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: thanks as well
[7/26/2013 11:28:49 PM] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: to be very honest though, I am highly interested in jonsnow as he impressed me in ATC qualifiers against EG


Anyway, here is more of the convo.

[7/28/2013 6:27:40 PM] Pascal Anton: LYGF is member of the gaming network
[7/28/2013 6:27:54 PM] Pascal Anton: so
[7/28/2013 6:28:05 PM] Pascal Anton: i tell you how the situation i
[7/28/2013 6:28:05 PM] Pascal Anton: s
[7/28/2013 6:28:08 PM] Pascal Anton: around LYGF
[7/28/2013 6:30:09 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": sure give me some details
[7/28/2013 6:30:12 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": we arent familiar with Lygf
[7/28/2013 6:30:34 PM] Pascal Anton: www.loveyourgirlfriend.net
[7/28/2013 6:30:42 PM] Pascal Anton: sorry, i just have so many convos open xD
[7/28/2013 6:30:49 PM] Pascal Anton: so what we do
[7/28/2013 6:30:55 PM] Pascal Anton: usually is paying pro gamers
[7/28/2013 6:30:59 PM] Pascal Anton: a montly salary
[7/28/2013 6:31:09 PM] Pascal Anton: that might be higher than from other clans
[7/28/2013 6:31:36 PM] Pascal Anton: on the other hand, we don't have much money left for big tournaments for every player
[7/28/2013 6:31:38 PM] Pascal Anton: you understand?
[7/28/2013 6:31:43 PM] Pascal Anton: but
[7/28/2013 6:31:47 PM] Pascal Anton: when a player comes to me
[7/28/2013 6:31:58 PM] Pascal Anton: and tells me his priorities
[7/28/2013 6:32:03 PM] Pascal Anton: then for sure we can talk
[7/28/2013 6:32:05 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": sure
[7/28/2013 6:32:11 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": and we dont expect that from day one or anything
[7/28/2013 6:33:20 PM] Milad "NanoClouD: who are your sponsors?
[7/28/2013 6:33:26 PM] Milad "NanoClouD how much do you think you could afford to pay players?
[7/28/2013 6:34:03 PM] Pascal Anton: we are currently talking to a new sponsor
[7/28/2013 6:34:10 PM] Milad "NanoClouD: oh nice
[7/28/2013 6:34:11 PM] Pascal Anton: a big european company
[7/28/2013 6:34:17 PM] Milad "NanoClouD thats exciting
[7/28/2013 6:34:21 PM] Pascal Anton: and they said they need one more week
[7/28/2013 6:34:28 PM] Pascal Anton: to decide how much they wanna give us
[7/28/2013 6:34:28 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : awesome
[7/28/2013 6:34:32 PM] Pascal Anton: so
[7/28/2013 6:34:36 PM] Pascal Anton: in case that happens
[7/28/2013 6:34:39 PM] Pascal Anton: we can pay
[7/28/2013 6:34:45 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": ok well let me know in weeks time
[7/28/2013 6:34:49 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : i dont think we will amke a decision
[7/28/2013 6:34:52 PM] Pascal Anton: we have some small sponsors right now
[7/28/2013 6:34:53 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": until atleast another week
[7/28/2013 6:34:59 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : do you guys give gear to players?
[7/28/2013 6:35:02 PM] Pascal Anton: yes
[7/28/2013 6:35:08 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": ah thats also nice
[7/28/2013 6:35:10 PM] Pascal Anton: 100 percent paid to pro players
[7/28/2013 6:35:19 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : hmm?
[7/28/2013 6:35:24 PM] Pascal Anton: i meant
[7/28/2013 6:35:29 PM] Pascal Anton: we pay 100 percent
[7/28/2013 6:35:32 PM] Pascal Anton: of the gear
[7/28/2013 6:35:33 PM] Pascal Anton:
[7/28/2013 6:35:37 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": ooo
[7/28/2013 6:35:38 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : gotcha
[7/28/2013 6:35:47 PM] Pascal Anton: but of course according to contract
[7/28/2013 6:35:53 PM] Pascal Anton: players cant come every week
[7/28/2013 6:35:58 PM] Pascal Anton: and ask for new stuff
[7/28/2013 6:36:01 PM] Pascal Anton: thats just too much ofc
[7/28/2013 6:36:09 PM] Pascal Anton: since you don't need new stuff each week
[7/28/2013 6:36:16 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": absolutely
[7/28/2013 6:36:18 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : i agree
[7/28/2013 6:36:21 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : you have contracts right?
[7/28/2013 6:37:35 PM] Pascal Anton: yes
[7/28/2013 6:37:46 PM] Pascal Anton: according to international laws
[7/28/2013 6:37:57 PM] Pascal Anton: so our contracts are real contracts
[7/28/2013 6:37:57 PM] Pascal Anton:
[7/28/2013 6:38:05 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": thats great
[7/28/2013 6:38:12 PM] Milad "NanoClouD": we like nice contracts that are clear and detailed
[7/28/2013 6:38:16 PM] Pascal Anton: yes
[7/28/2013 6:38:17 PM] Pascal Anton: without
[7/28/2013 6:38:20 PM] Pascal Anton: im not gonna do it
[7/28/2013 6:38:21 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : what range do you think you could pay us if the big sponsor doesnt happen?
[7/28/2013 6:38:21 PM] Pascal Anton:
[7/28/2013 6:38:28 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" and what range do you think you could pay us if b ig sponsor does happen?
[7/28/2013 6:38:38 PM] Pascal Anton: without sponsor?
[7/28/2013 6:38:42 PM] Pascal Anton: hmmmm
[7/28/2013 6:38:46 PM] Pascal Anton: 3 players?
[7/28/2013 6:38:57 PM] Pascal Anton: i cant pay 3 players without sponsor
[7/28/2013 6:39:03 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : ah ok
[7/28/2013 6:39:08 PM] Pascal Anton: with sponsor i think around 200-300
[7/28/2013 6:39:12 PM] Pascal Anton: a month
[7/28/2013 6:39:15 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : usd?
[7/28/2013 6:39:19 PM] Pascal Anton: euros
[7/28/2013 6:39:27 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : oh nice
[7/28/2013 6:39:27 PM] Pascal Anton: we pay in euros
[7/28/2013 6:39:52 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" : well please keep in contact and let me know


Then the other half of our conversation was about clarity gaming and apparently how this manager thinks they are a scam.

[7/30/2013 7:11:07 PM] Pascal Anton: i scrolled up
[7/30/2013 7:11:16 PM] Pascal Anton: until june 10th
[7/30/2013 7:11:17 PM] Pascal Anton: no luck
[7/30/2013 7:11:20 PM] Pascal Anton: maybe they deleted it
[7/30/2013 10:30:51 PM] Pascal Anton: they don't pay salaries
[7/30/2013 10:31:01 PM] Pascal Anton: and they love smacktalking about all clans
[7/30/2013 10:31:21 PM] Pascal Anton: this is from a manager of a well known clan
[7/30/2013 10:31:23 PM] Pascal Anton: he just told me
[7/30/2013 10:31:59 PM] Pascal Anton: no
[7/30/2013 10:32:00 PM] Pascal Anton: way bigger clan
[7/30/2013 10:32:09 PM] Pascal Anton: sorry , im not gonna tell you the name ;
[7/30/2013 10:32:10 PM] Pascal Anton:
[7/30/2013 10:32:13 PM] Pascal Anton: i hope you understand
[7/30/2013 10:32:16 PM] Milad oh
[7/30/2013 10:32:17 PM] Milad : its ok
[7/30/2013 10:32:23 PM] Milad : i just want credibility in statements haha
[7/30/2013 10:32:25 PM] Pascal Anton: but cg is more or less scam
[7/30/2013 10:32:34 PM] Pascal Anton: well
[7/30/2013 10:32:37 PM] Pascal Anton: what can i say
[7/30/2013 10:32:45 PM] Pascal Anton: all im trying to do is to warn you
[7/30/2013 10:32:52 PM] Milad : yah but my friends
[7/30/2013 10:32:54 PM] Milad : are asking
[7/30/2013 10:33:02 PM] Milad: "nano is it a big team saying this? which team?"
[7/30/2013 10:33:07 PM] Milad : it just makes it stronger that w ay
[7/30/2013 10:33:08 PM] Milad:
[7/30/2013 10:34:08 PM] Pascal Anton: what you mean?
[7/30/2013 10:34:12 PM] Miladi: i promise it will just be between you and me
[7/30/2013 10:34:15 PM] Milad i just want to tell players
[7/30/2013 10:34:19 PM] Miladi: "trust me i have good source"
[7/30/2013 10:34:22 PM] Pascal Anton: you really promise, ok?
[7/30/2013 10:34:24 PM] Milad : ok
[7/30/2013 10:34:25 PM] Pascal Anton: so no bullshit
[7/30/2013 10:34:27 PM] Milad: no
[7/30/2013 10:34:29 PM] Pascal Anton: quantic
[7/30/2013 10:34:35 PM] Milad : who in quantic?
[7/30/2013 10:34:36 PM] Milad: JM?
[7/30/2013 10:34:50 PM] Pascal Anton: ..........
[7/30/2013 10:34:54 PM] Pascal Anton: dude
[7/30/2013 10:35:00 PM] Pascal Anton: you're killing me here...
[7/30/2013 10:35:11 PM] Milad: sorry but only person
[7/30/2013 10:35:13 PM] Milad : i trust in quantic
[7/30/2013 10:35:14 PM] Milad : is JM.
[7/30/2013 10:35:16 PM] Milad : lol
[7/30/2013 10:35:22 PM] Pascal Anton: hold on
[7/30/2013 10:35:24 PM] Milad: he is good guy
[7/30/2013 10:35:24 PM] Milad : ok

[7/30/2013 10:39:23 PM] Pascal Anton: me too
[7/30/2013 10:39:44 PM] Pascal Anton: so
[7/30/2013 10:39:48 PM] Pascal Anton: you watched dragon lately?
[7/30/2013 10:39:56 PM] Pascal Anton: it says more than words can say
[7/30/2013 10:40:11 PM] Milad : what you mean?
[7/30/2013 10:40:19 PM] Pascal Anton: he is super sad
[7/30/2013 10:40:23 PM] Pascal Anton: playing bad on purpose
[7/30/2013 10:40:26 PM] Milad: why he sad?
[7/30/2013 10:40:31 PM] Pascal Anton: on his main cg account
[7/30/2013 10:40:55 PM] Milad: what happend
[7/30/2013 10:40:55 PM] Milad: ?

[7/30/2013 10:36:06 PM] Pascal Anton: [31.07.13 04:27:23] Pascal Anton: you said he probably is scam
[31.07.13 04:27:28] Pascal Anton: this is how clarity called us
[31.07.13 04:27:29] Pascal Anton: xD
[31.07.13 04:27:34] Pascal Anton: haha
[31.07.13 04:27:59] Pascal Anton: do they actually pay salaries? i heard no, only when they have donations
[31.07.13 04:29:10] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: yeah
[31.07.13 04:29:12] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: they don't
[31.07.13 04:29:23] Pascal Anton: so who is scam xD
[31.07.13 04:29:29] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: lol
[31.07.13 04:29:29] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: I don't like them
[31.07.13 04:29:36] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: they talked so much smack about us
[7/30/2013 10:53:48 PM] Pascal Anton: but seriously now
[7/30/2013 10:54:04 PM] Pascal Anton: i didn't tell you this about clarity, because im interested in new players and want them for myself
[7/30/2013 10:54:18 PM] Pascal Anton: i get offers every day
[7/30/2013 10:54:21 PM] Pascal Anton: really...every day
[7/30/2013 10:54:33 PM] Pascal Anton: i don't need to talk bad about other clans
[7/30/2013 10:54:41 PM] Pascal Anton: im just being honest and tell you my opinion and experiences
[7/30/2013 10:54:44 PM] Pascal Anton: i hope you know that
[7/30/2013 10:55:42 PM] Milad: yah i do
[7/30/2013 10:32:50 PM] Pascal Anton: its up to you what you decide


This team offered us 200-300 Euros, told us Clarity was a scam, and told me the source he had was Quantic JM. This 200-300 Euro thing sounds just as big of a scam as smi's promises.


Also Rei, I know that people reading through all your comments will quickly realize that you were part of smi from the get go. You were here from day 1 when Anderson Barrett approached your team. You dont have an excuse such as "I wasn't here to supervise anything." Tim Dirtybird was legitimately away at the beginning. You've always been here and were a manager of the team! Dont think I dont know that you and Anderson Barrett were on the same wavelength. I'm not inclined to believe a 35+yrold man would have no clue that Anderson was trying to scam us players. You should've had enough power as assistant manager to Dirtybird to say something. I know that in many of your comments trying to make me look bad, you are trying to save face for smi and yourself. I feel bad for smi getting scammed by anderson just as much as the next guy, but dont try shifting attention to a pointless arguement. It doesnt work

I find you just as much to blame as Anderson because you were a manager that was around during the whole situation. You have no excuse.


The game I played with you shows that you had GM rating and I had platinum. It was a practice game where I was trying a new build. If you watch the replay, my apm is 0 for quite some time. Why do you think that is? Oh, because I was alt tabbed and writing notes down. I have many more replays where I have 0 apm for durations of the game.

I play for my CSL team, I complete at local lans, and I've done pretty well for an amateur player. I'm no where near top tier. Why would I try to pretend I'm better than my skill level. You think by faking it, I would be able to get on a good team? What after that? I would imagine that team would expect me to show my skill via demonstration even if it was a coaching or academy position. The higher up you go in sc2, the more expectations to play in live tournaments, qualifiers, and other events. If anything, the best option if I was faking my skill level would be NOT TO TRY to get on any team. If I wanted to make money off online gaming. I would def switch over to LoL haha.

I would gain 0 from paying koreans to play on my account. It is quite hard to make a living playing sc2 unless you are literally the top players in the world. I also would gain nothing in the real world by going around my college and telling people, Hi I'm grandmaster on the NA server. <---- WHAT WOULD THAT GET ME? lol. Aside from strange stares.

The only thing I do that is frowned upon is on occasion I boost friends accounts. I usually dont charge anything. We only did that to this Anderson kid because we wanted to see if he was scamming us. Thats why we split the job 4 ways. It was just to see if he would end up paying us.

I do know that there are many players who make a source of income from boosting. I dont do that. I boost only close friends.

SCA, you guys have a bad reputation already. You are making your own team look bad with the lies you spread. You guys stream snipe, stream cheat, and on various occasions you have ddosed players. I dont know what your goals are as a clan, but I wish you best of luck with your clan.

Regardless of the lies spread above, I've decided to take a few months off from NA and switch back to EU full-time. I'm going to work hard on EU and hopefully after all this drama dies down I will come back to NA.

I wish everyone good luck. I hope this smi scam was a lesson for everyone and I hope people like Anderson Barrett dont continue to plague e-sports with fake promises of gear/money.


Good luck to all my friends from NA! I also wish Sonic, Jonsnow, and Virium the best of luck on a new team(whatever that team is). These guys are great players and well mannered. They kept me sane during the smi scam, and fun practicing 1v1's and playing arcade games with them. GL HF #usafighting

ty for all those who support me and reached out to me. For a noname player, it was quite nice to see the comments on skype and sc2 that told me to ignore the haters/trolls. This is my last post on this thread.








What? what a load of shit. I have NEVER heard pascal talk about any clan or team badly. In fact we talk about pro teams all the time and how we can be like them and improve ourselves as a team. This is a load of shit and I do not believe it for a second. He doesn't even type like this...
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United States13 Posts
August 05 2013 02:20 GMT
#447
NanoFrauD
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
August 05 2013 02:48 GMT
#448
On August 05 2013 09:44 NMxhendralisk wrote:
can someone tl;dr the replies to this thread, it seems to be focused on something else


nanocloud is immature/liar and this thread needs to die
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9990 Posts
August 05 2013 02:58 GMT
#449
On August 05 2013 11:48 .kv wrote:
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On August 05 2013 09:44 NMxhendralisk wrote:
can someone tl;dr the replies to this thread, it seems to be focused on something else


nanocloud is immature/liar and this thread needs to die


never
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Th0R
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada359 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 03:03:17
August 05 2013 03:02 GMT
#450
On August 05 2013 11:58 TT1 wrote:
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On August 05 2013 11:48 .kv wrote:
On August 05 2013 09:44 NMxhendralisk wrote:
can someone tl;dr the replies to this thread, it seems to be focused on something else


nanocloud is immature/liar and this thread needs to die


never


It is known. But yes on a serious note this thread is old now and should die now.
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jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
August 05 2013 03:19 GMT
#451
dude ... this sucks, i hope you guys can get a sponsor.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
August 05 2013 03:37 GMT
#452
For the sake of humanity please let this thread die.
rei
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United States3594 Posts
August 05 2013 04:08 GMT
#453
On August 05 2013 12:37 Doodsmack wrote:
For the sake of humanity please let this thread die.

thank you for dumping this thread and keeping it alive.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
August 05 2013 04:15 GMT
#454
one two test
FreedomSC2
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada224 Posts
August 05 2013 04:25 GMT
#455
This post is still on-going??? Don't we have more to do like practicing lol. TT
QuanticDualan
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Last Edited: 2013-08-05 04:31:44
August 05 2013 04:28 GMT
#456
I'm so evil , but anyway I got other things to do. I'm just gonna leave the situation as it is
NanoClouD
Profile Joined June 2013
25 Posts
August 05 2013 05:28 GMT
#457
On August 05 2013 10:26 HTOMario wrote:
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On August 05 2013 04:39 NanoClouD wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:23 rei wrote:
On August 04 2013 18:04 QuanticDualan wrote:
Ok, I posted something about Nanocloud trying to get into Quantic Academy with 4 other guys earlier but he messaged me to please take it down because he didn't want his reputation destroyed. Now, I have decided that I don't want to keep quiet anymore as I have found out that he has been lying to other people. Here's the deal, Nanocloud went up to me asking if he and 4 other guys can get into Quantic Academy with him as coach/manager. I declined him because our roster was full and taking in 5 players would be ridiculous, there was also some negative feedback about him. I have also heard previously that he was telling other people that he could get his 5 into our Quantic Academy easily without even talking to me and today after talking to another manager, that rumor about him saying that Quantic wanting them was indeed true.

[29.07.13 00:15:20] Pascal Anton: may i ask you
[29.07.13 00:15:30] Pascal Anton: who is yume?
[29.07.13 00:15:36] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: he was from sca
[29.07.13 00:15:38] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: then we kicked him for bm
[29.07.13 00:15:42] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: now he is on quantic academy
[29.07.13 00:16:05] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: but quantic management and few other teams want us
[29.07.13 00:16:14] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: and we were told from a friend of mine that you might also have financial
[29.07.13 00:16:15] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: backing
[29.07.13 00:16:18] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: to support us

Anton Pascal is the manager of another up and coming team who I gave Nanocloud's contact to in order for me to be able to help him a bit. The conversation I have posted here is the first time Nanocloud and Anton talk, during the conversation Nanocloud claims that Quantic management wants them as part of their team right after I declined them entry to our team. I never wanted all of this to go out in the open, but I feel that the lying should stop. I feel really bad for the other four players along with him as they are really really talented players and they deserve to be able to find a good home. To the four players with Nanocloud I wish you good luck in a finding a team, and to Nanocloud please do not use other team's name in order to gain favor for yourself. GLHF


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[8:03:25 AM] Carlos Grijalva: [Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:23 PM] Milad Alucozai:
hahahaha
dont be looking soon
will take some time
atleast few months
before i get back
hopefully then the drama will all die down

[8:03:33 AM] Carlos Grijalva: [Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:24 PM] Milad Alucozai:
<<< anyways i wanted to let you guys know
that i'm going to be quitting sc2
i might come back once my wrists get healed up
but i just cant handle the bm/trolls

[8:03:33 AM] Carlos Grijalva: [Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:24 PM] Milad Alucozai:

<<< probably going to have to namechange again
so many name changes
lol

This is what nanocloud msg one of my players yesterday, He said he will be back, under a new name.


Here was the real message.

[7/28/2013 6:15:15 PM] Pascal Anton: may i ask you
[7/28/2013 6:15:25 PM] Pascal Anton: who is yume?
[7/28/2013 6:15:30 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: he was from sca
[7/28/2013 6:15:38 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: then he left to search for another team
[7/28/2013 6:15:40 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: he kept trying to abuse his captain power and people didn’t like it.
[7/28/2013 6:15:46 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: now he is on quantic academy
[7/28/2013 6:15:50 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: I think he is on academy team. He streams still.
[7/28/2013 6:15:59 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: we spoke to a few quantic players, it would be cool to join them.
[7/28/2013 6:16:05 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: but quantic management is only interested in a few of our players.
[7/28/2013 6:16:30 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: A manager from quantic told me your team had financial backing?
[7/28/2013 6:16:30 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: to support us all?

That is the actual conversation. Also I reference interested in a few players from the following message from JM.

[7/26/2013 11:25:11 PM] Milad "sMi.NanoClouD" Alucozai: It would've been nice to be part of the quantic family but if thats not possible t hen we will try other teams. Thanks for time.
[7/26/2013 11:25:19 PM] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: thanks as well
[7/26/2013 11:28:49 PM] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: to be very honest though, I am highly interested in jonsnow as he impressed me in ATC qualifiers against EG


Anyway, here is more of the convo.

[7/28/2013 6:27:40 PM] Pascal Anton: LYGF is member of the gaming network
[7/28/2013 6:27:54 PM] Pascal Anton: so
[7/28/2013 6:28:05 PM] Pascal Anton: i tell you how the situation i
[7/28/2013 6:28:05 PM] Pascal Anton: s
[7/28/2013 6:28:08 PM] Pascal Anton: around LYGF
[7/28/2013 6:30:09 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: sure give me some details
[7/28/2013 6:30:12 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: we arent familiar with Lygf
[7/28/2013 6:30:34 PM] Pascal Anton: www.loveyourgirlfriend.net
[7/28/2013 6:30:42 PM] Pascal Anton: sorry, i just have so many convos open xD
[7/28/2013 6:30:49 PM] Pascal Anton: so what we do
[7/28/2013 6:30:55 PM] Pascal Anton: usually is paying pro gamers
[7/28/2013 6:30:59 PM] Pascal Anton: a montly salary
[7/28/2013 6:31:09 PM] Pascal Anton: that might be higher than from other clans
[7/28/2013 6:31:36 PM] Pascal Anton: on the other hand, we don't have much money left for big tournaments for every player
[7/28/2013 6:31:38 PM] Pascal Anton: you understand?
[7/28/2013 6:31:43 PM] Pascal Anton: but
[7/28/2013 6:31:47 PM] Pascal Anton: when a player comes to me
[7/28/2013 6:31:58 PM] Pascal Anton: and tells me his priorities
[7/28/2013 6:32:03 PM] Pascal Anton: then for sure we can talk
[7/28/2013 6:32:05 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: sure
[7/28/2013 6:32:11 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: and we dont expect that from day one or anything
[7/28/2013 6:33:20 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: who are your sponsors?
[7/28/2013 6:33:26 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: how much do you think you could afford to pay players?
[7/28/2013 6:34:03 PM] Pascal Anton: we are currently talking to a new sponsor
[7/28/2013 6:34:10 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: oh nice
[7/28/2013 6:34:11 PM] Pascal Anton: a big european company
[7/28/2013 6:34:17 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: thats exciting
[7/28/2013 6:34:21 PM] Pascal Anton: and they said they need one more week
[7/28/2013 6:34:28 PM] Pascal Anton: to decide how much they wanna give us
[7/28/2013 6:34:28 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: awesome
[7/28/2013 6:34:32 PM] Pascal Anton: so
[7/28/2013 6:34:36 PM] Pascal Anton: in case that happens
[7/28/2013 6:34:39 PM] Pascal Anton: we can pay
[7/28/2013 6:34:45 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: ok well let me know in weeks time
[7/28/2013 6:34:49 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: i dont think we will amke a decision
[7/28/2013 6:34:52 PM] Pascal Anton: we have some small sponsors right now
[7/28/2013 6:34:53 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: until atleast another week
[7/28/2013 6:34:59 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: do you guys give gear to players?
[7/28/2013 6:35:02 PM] Pascal Anton: yes
[7/28/2013 6:35:08 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: ah thats also nice
[7/28/2013 6:35:10 PM] Pascal Anton: 100 percent paid to pro players
[7/28/2013 6:35:19 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: hmm?
[7/28/2013 6:35:24 PM] Pascal Anton: i meant
[7/28/2013 6:35:29 PM] Pascal Anton: we pay 100 percent
[7/28/2013 6:35:32 PM] Pascal Anton: of the gear
[7/28/2013 6:35:33 PM] Pascal Anton:
[7/28/2013 6:35:37 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: ooo
[7/28/2013 6:35:38 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: gotcha
[7/28/2013 6:35:47 PM] Pascal Anton: but of course according to contract
[7/28/2013 6:35:53 PM] Pascal Anton: players cant come every week
[7/28/2013 6:35:58 PM] Pascal Anton: and ask for new stuff
[7/28/2013 6:36:01 PM] Pascal Anton: thats just too much ofc
[7/28/2013 6:36:09 PM] Pascal Anton: since you don't need new stuff each week
[7/28/2013 6:36:16 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: absolutely
[7/28/2013 6:36:18 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: i agree
[7/28/2013 6:36:21 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: you have contracts right?
[7/28/2013 6:37:35 PM] Pascal Anton: yes
[7/28/2013 6:37:46 PM] Pascal Anton: according to international laws
[7/28/2013 6:37:57 PM] Pascal Anton: so our contracts are real contracts
[7/28/2013 6:37:57 PM] Pascal Anton:
[7/28/2013 6:38:05 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: thats great
[7/28/2013 6:38:12 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: we like nice contracts that are clear and detailed
[7/28/2013 6:38:16 PM] Pascal Anton: yes
[7/28/2013 6:38:17 PM] Pascal Anton: without
[7/28/2013 6:38:20 PM] Pascal Anton: im not gonna do it
[7/28/2013 6:38:21 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: what range do you think you could pay us if the big sponsor doesnt happen?
[7/28/2013 6:38:21 PM] Pascal Anton:
[7/28/2013 6:38:28 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: and what range do you think you could pay us if b ig sponsor does happen?
[7/28/2013 6:38:38 PM] Pascal Anton: without sponsor?
[7/28/2013 6:38:42 PM] Pascal Anton: hmmmm
[7/28/2013 6:38:46 PM] Pascal Anton: 3 players?
[7/28/2013 6:38:57 PM] Pascal Anton: i cant pay 3 players without sponsor
[7/28/2013 6:39:03 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: ah ok
[7/28/2013 6:39:08 PM] Pascal Anton: with sponsor i think around 200-300
[7/28/2013 6:39:12 PM] Pascal Anton: a month
[7/28/2013 6:39:15 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: usd?
[7/28/2013 6:39:19 PM] Pascal Anton: euros
[7/28/2013 6:39:27 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: oh nice
[7/28/2013 6:39:27 PM] Pascal Anton: we pay in euros
[7/28/2013 6:39:52 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: well please keep in contact and let me know


Then the other half of our conversation was about clarity gaming and apparently how this manager thinks they are a scam.

[7/30/2013 7:11:07 PM] Pascal Anton: i scrolled up
[7/30/2013 7:11:16 PM] Pascal Anton: until june 10th
[7/30/2013 7:11:17 PM] Pascal Anton: no luck
[7/30/2013 7:11:20 PM] Pascal Anton: maybe they deleted it
[7/30/2013 10:30:51 PM] Pascal Anton: they don't pay salaries
[7/30/2013 10:31:01 PM] Pascal Anton: and they love smacktalking about all clans
[7/30/2013 10:31:21 PM] Pascal Anton: this is from a manager of a well known clan
[7/30/2013 10:31:23 PM] Pascal Anton: he just told me
[7/30/2013 10:31:59 PM] Pascal Anton: no
[7/30/2013 10:32:00 PM] Pascal Anton: way bigger clan
[7/30/2013 10:32:09 PM] Pascal Anton: sorry , im not gonna tell you the name ;
[7/30/2013 10:32:10 PM] Pascal Anton:
[7/30/2013 10:32:13 PM] Pascal Anton: i hope you understand
[7/30/2013 10:32:16 PM] Milad Alucozai: oh
[7/30/2013 10:32:17 PM] Milad Alucozai: its ok
[7/30/2013 10:32:23 PM] Milad Alucozai: i just want credibility in statements haha
[7/30/2013 10:32:25 PM] Pascal Anton: but cg is more or less scam
[7/30/2013 10:32:34 PM] Pascal Anton: well
[7/30/2013 10:32:37 PM] Pascal Anton: what can i say
[7/30/2013 10:32:45 PM] Pascal Anton: all im trying to do is to warn you
[7/30/2013 10:32:52 PM] Milad Alucozai: yah but my friends
[7/30/2013 10:32:54 PM] Milad Alucozai: are asking
[7/30/2013 10:33:02 PM] Milad Alucozai: "nano is it a big team saying this? which team?"
[7/30/2013 10:33:07 PM] Milad Alucozai: it just makes it stronger that w ay
[7/30/2013 10:33:08 PM] Milad Alucozai:
[7/30/2013 10:34:08 PM] Pascal Anton: what you mean?
[7/30/2013 10:34:12 PM] Milad Alucozai: i promise it will just be between you and me
[7/30/2013 10:34:15 PM] Milad Alucozai: i just want to tell players
[7/30/2013 10:34:19 PM] Milad Alucozai: "trust me i have good source"
[7/30/2013 10:34:22 PM] Pascal Anton: you really promise, ok?
[7/30/2013 10:34:24 PM] Milad Alucozai: ok
[7/30/2013 10:34:25 PM] Pascal Anton: so no bullshit
[7/30/2013 10:34:27 PM] Milad Alucozai: no
[7/30/2013 10:34:29 PM] Pascal Anton: quantic
[7/30/2013 10:34:35 PM] Milad Alucozai: who in quantic?
[7/30/2013 10:34:36 PM] Milad Alucozai: JM?
[7/30/2013 10:34:50 PM] Pascal Anton: ..........
[7/30/2013 10:34:54 PM] Pascal Anton: dude
[7/30/2013 10:35:00 PM] Pascal Anton: you're killing me here...
[7/30/2013 10:35:11 PM] Milad Alucozai: sorry but only person
[7/30/2013 10:35:13 PM] Milad Alucozai: i trust in quantic
[7/30/2013 10:35:14 PM] Milad Alucozai: is JM.
[7/30/2013 10:35:16 PM] Milad Alucozai: lol
[7/30/2013 10:35:22 PM] Pascal Anton: hold on
[7/30/2013 10:35:24 PM] Milad Alucozai: he is good guy
[7/30/2013 10:35:24 PM] Milad Alucozai: ok

[7/30/2013 10:39:23 PM] Pascal Anton: me too
[7/30/2013 10:39:44 PM] Pascal Anton: so
[7/30/2013 10:39:48 PM] Pascal Anton: you watched dragon lately?
[7/30/2013 10:39:56 PM] Pascal Anton: it says more than words can say
[7/30/2013 10:40:11 PM] Milad Alucozai: what you mean?
[7/30/2013 10:40:19 PM] Pascal Anton: he is super sad
[7/30/2013 10:40:23 PM] Pascal Anton: playing bad on purpose
[7/30/2013 10:40:26 PM] Milad Alucozai: why he sad?
[7/30/2013 10:40:31 PM] Pascal Anton: on his main cg account
[7/30/2013 10:40:55 PM] Milad Alucozai: what happend
[7/30/2013 10:40:55 PM] Milad Alucozai: ?

[7/30/2013 10:36:06 PM] Pascal Anton: [31.07.13 04:27:23] Pascal Anton: you said he probably is scam
[31.07.13 04:27:28] Pascal Anton: this is how clarity called us
[31.07.13 04:27:29] Pascal Anton: xD
[31.07.13 04:27:34] Pascal Anton: haha
[31.07.13 04:27:59] Pascal Anton: do they actually pay salaries? i heard no, only when they have donations
[31.07.13 04:29:10] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: yeah
[31.07.13 04:29:12] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: they don't
[31.07.13 04:29:23] Pascal Anton: so who is scam xD
[31.07.13 04:29:29] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: lol
[31.07.13 04:29:29] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: I don't like them
[31.07.13 04:29:36] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: they talked so much smack about us
[7/30/2013 10:53:48 PM] Pascal Anton: but seriously now
[7/30/2013 10:54:04 PM] Pascal Anton: i didn't tell you this about clarity, because im interested in new players and want them for myself
[7/30/2013 10:54:18 PM] Pascal Anton: i get offers every day
[7/30/2013 10:54:21 PM] Pascal Anton: really...every day
[7/30/2013 10:54:33 PM] Pascal Anton: i don't need to talk bad about other clans
[7/30/2013 10:54:41 PM] Pascal Anton: im just being honest and tell you my opinion and experiences
[7/30/2013 10:54:44 PM] Pascal Anton: i hope you know that
[7/30/2013 10:55:42 PM] Milad Alucozai: yah i do
[7/30/2013 10:32:50 PM] Pascal Anton: its up to you what you decide

This team offered us 200-300 Euros, told us Clarity was a scam, and told me the source he had was Quantic JM. This 200-300 Euro thing sounds just as big of a scam as smi's promises.


Also Rei, I know that people reading through all your comments will quickly realize that you were part of smi from the get go. You were here from day 1 when Anderson Barrett approached your team. You dont have an excuse such as "I wasn't here to supervise anything." Tim Dirtybird was legitimately away at the beginning. You've always been here and were a manager of the team! Dont think I dont know that you and Anderson Barrett were on the same wavelength. I'm not inclined to believe a 35+yrold man would have no clue that Anderson was trying to scam us players. You should've had enough power as assistant manager to Dirtybird to say something. I know that in many of your comments trying to make me look bad, you are trying to save face for smi and yourself. I feel bad for smi getting scammed by anderson just as much as the next guy, but dont try shifting attention to a pointless arguement. It doesnt work

I find you just as much to blame as Anderson because you were a manager that was around during the whole situation. You have no excuse.


The game I played with you shows that you had GM rating and I had platinum. It was a practice game where I was trying a new build. If you watch the replay, my apm is 0 for quite some time. Why do you think that is? Oh, because I was alt tabbed and writing notes down. I have many more replays where I have 0 apm for durations of the game.

I play for my CSL team, I complete at local lans, and I've done pretty well for an amateur player. I'm no where near top tier. Why would I try to pretend I'm better than my skill level. You think by faking it, I would be able to get on a good team? What after that? I would imagine that team would expect me to show my skill via demonstration even if it was a coaching or academy position. The higher up you go in sc2, the more expectations to play in live tournaments, qualifiers, and other events. If anything, the best option if I was faking my skill level would be NOT TO TRY to get on any team. If I wanted to make money off online gaming. I would def switch over to LoL haha.

I would gain 0 from paying koreans to play on my account. It is quite hard to make a living playing sc2 unless you are literally the top players in the world. I also would gain nothing in the real world by going around my college and telling people, Hi I'm grandmaster on the NA server. <---- WHAT WOULD THAT GET ME? lol. Aside from strange stares.

The only thing I do that is frowned upon is on occasion I boost friends accounts. I usually dont charge anything. We only did that to this Anderson kid because we wanted to see if he was scamming us. Thats why we split the job 4 ways. It was just to see if he would end up paying us.

I do know that there are many players who make a source of income from boosting. I dont do that. I boost only close friends.

SCA, you guys have a bad reputation already. You are making your own team look bad with the lies you spread. You guys stream snipe, stream cheat, and on various occasions you have ddosed players. I dont know what your goals are as a clan, but I wish you best of luck with your clan.

Regardless of the lies spread above, I've decided to take a few months off from NA and switch back to EU full-time. I'm going to work hard on EU and hopefully after all this drama dies down I will come back to NA.

I wish everyone good luck. I hope this smi scam was a lesson for everyone and I hope people like Anderson Barrett dont continue to plague e-sports with fake promises of gear/money.


Good luck to all my friends from NA! I also wish Sonic, Jonsnow, and Virium the best of luck on a new team(whatever that team is). These guys are great players and well mannered. They kept me sane during the smi scam, and fun practicing 1v1's and playing arcade games with them. GL HF #usafighting

ty for all those who support me and reached out to me. For a noname player, it was quite nice to see the comments on skype and sc2 that told me to ignore the haters/trolls. This is my last post on this thread.








What? what a load of shit. I have NEVER heard pascal talk about any clan or team badly. In fact we talk about pro teams all the time and how we can be like them and improve ourselves as a team. This is a load of shit and I do not believe it for a second. He doesn't even type like this...



To respond to comments made by JM, Mario, OG manager, and others. I've uploaded screenshots of the skype conversation. These are excerts. The total conversation would've been like 30 more images. If you guys really think that I photoshopped 15 images, then I dont know what to say.


SKYPE CONVERSATION


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The fact is LYGF called Clarity Gaming a scam.
I dont know the reason behind why, perhaps they really didnt want smi players to go to clarity or they really do believe they are a scam. I've spoken to Clarity, and everything that LYGF and JM have said are total lies regarding Clarity as an organization. Please dont believe the comments they made. If you have any specific questions regarding clarity as an organization and their credibility, please contact someone on Clarity.

I think the bigger scam is making a claim that you can pay 200-300 euros. Keep it real. Also Mario, I guess this is a rude awakening for you since its the first time you've seen "pascal talk this way or type like this." I know there are many others in this chat that only defended the person because they are friends but I ask you guys to look past friendship and look at the facts.

Lets just all manner up, respect each other, stop gossiping about other teams, and hopefully e-sports can become more healthy. adios.

p.s. sorry if images are out of order... no idea how to control that.



MadVillian
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Last Edited: 2013-08-05 06:11:52
August 05 2013 05:56 GMT
#458
On August 05 2013 14:28 NanoClouD wrote:
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On August 05 2013 10:26 HTOMario wrote:
On August 05 2013 04:39 NanoClouD wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:23 rei wrote:
On August 04 2013 18:04 QuanticDualan wrote:
Ok, I posted something about Nanocloud trying to get into Quantic Academy with 4 other guys earlier but he messaged me to please take it down because he didn't want his reputation destroyed. Now, I have decided that I don't want to keep quiet anymore as I have found out that he has been lying to other people. Here's the deal, Nanocloud went up to me asking if he and 4 other guys can get into Quantic Academy with him as coach/manager. I declined him because our roster was full and taking in 5 players would be ridiculous, there was also some negative feedback about him. I have also heard previously that he was telling other people that he could get his 5 into our Quantic Academy easily without even talking to me and today after talking to another manager, that rumor about him saying that Quantic wanting them was indeed true.

[29.07.13 00:15:20] Pascal Anton: may i ask you
[29.07.13 00:15:30] Pascal Anton: who is yume?
[29.07.13 00:15:36] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: he was from sca
[29.07.13 00:15:38] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: then we kicked him for bm
[29.07.13 00:15:42] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: now he is on quantic academy
[29.07.13 00:16:05] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: but quantic management and few other teams want us
[29.07.13 00:16:14] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: and we were told from a friend of mine that you might also have financial
[29.07.13 00:16:15] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: backing
[29.07.13 00:16:18] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: to support us

Anton Pascal is the manager of another up and coming team who I gave Nanocloud's contact to in order for me to be able to help him a bit. The conversation I have posted here is the first time Nanocloud and Anton talk, during the conversation Nanocloud claims that Quantic management wants them as part of their team right after I declined them entry to our team. I never wanted all of this to go out in the open, but I feel that the lying should stop. I feel really bad for the other four players along with him as they are really really talented players and they deserve to be able to find a good home. To the four players with Nanocloud I wish you good luck in a finding a team, and to Nanocloud please do not use other team's name in order to gain favor for yourself. GLHF


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[8:03:25 AM] Carlos Grijalva: [Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:23 PM] Milad Alucozai:
hahahaha
dont be looking soon
will take some time
atleast few months
before i get back
hopefully then the drama will all die down

[8:03:33 AM] Carlos Grijalva: [Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:24 PM] Milad Alucozai:
<<< anyways i wanted to let you guys know
that i'm going to be quitting sc2
i might come back once my wrists get healed up
but i just cant handle the bm/trolls

[8:03:33 AM] Carlos Grijalva: [Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:24 PM] Milad Alucozai:

<<< probably going to have to namechange again
so many name changes
lol

This is what nanocloud msg one of my players yesterday, He said he will be back, under a new name.


Here was the real message.

[7/28/2013 6:15:15 PM] Pascal Anton: may i ask you
[7/28/2013 6:15:25 PM] Pascal Anton: who is yume?
[7/28/2013 6:15:30 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: he was from sca
[7/28/2013 6:15:38 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: then he left to search for another team
[7/28/2013 6:15:40 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: he kept trying to abuse his captain power and people didn’t like it.
[7/28/2013 6:15:46 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: now he is on quantic academy
[7/28/2013 6:15:50 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: I think he is on academy team. He streams still.
[7/28/2013 6:15:59 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: we spoke to a few quantic players, it would be cool to join them.
[7/28/2013 6:16:05 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: but quantic management is only interested in a few of our players.
[7/28/2013 6:16:30 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: A manager from quantic told me your team had financial backing?
[7/28/2013 6:16:30 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: to support us all?

That is the actual conversation. Also I reference interested in a few players from the following message from JM.

[7/26/2013 11:25:11 PM] Milad "sMi.NanoClouD" Alucozai: It would've been nice to be part of the quantic family but if thats not possible t hen we will try other teams. Thanks for time.
[7/26/2013 11:25:19 PM] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: thanks as well
[7/26/2013 11:28:49 PM] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: to be very honest though, I am highly interested in jonsnow as he impressed me in ATC qualifiers against EG


Anyway, here is more of the convo.

[7/28/2013 6:27:40 PM] Pascal Anton: LYGF is member of the gaming network
[7/28/2013 6:27:54 PM] Pascal Anton: so
[7/28/2013 6:28:05 PM] Pascal Anton: i tell you how the situation i
[7/28/2013 6:28:05 PM] Pascal Anton: s
[7/28/2013 6:28:08 PM] Pascal Anton: around LYGF
[7/28/2013 6:30:09 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: sure give me some details
[7/28/2013 6:30:12 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: we arent familiar with Lygf
[7/28/2013 6:30:34 PM] Pascal Anton: www.loveyourgirlfriend.net
[7/28/2013 6:30:42 PM] Pascal Anton: sorry, i just have so many convos open xD
[7/28/2013 6:30:49 PM] Pascal Anton: so what we do
[7/28/2013 6:30:55 PM] Pascal Anton: usually is paying pro gamers
[7/28/2013 6:30:59 PM] Pascal Anton: a montly salary
[7/28/2013 6:31:09 PM] Pascal Anton: that might be higher than from other clans
[7/28/2013 6:31:36 PM] Pascal Anton: on the other hand, we don't have much money left for big tournaments for every player
[7/28/2013 6:31:38 PM] Pascal Anton: you understand?
[7/28/2013 6:31:43 PM] Pascal Anton: but
[7/28/2013 6:31:47 PM] Pascal Anton: when a player comes to me
[7/28/2013 6:31:58 PM] Pascal Anton: and tells me his priorities
[7/28/2013 6:32:03 PM] Pascal Anton: then for sure we can talk
[7/28/2013 6:32:05 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: sure
[7/28/2013 6:32:11 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: and we dont expect that from day one or anything
[7/28/2013 6:33:20 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: who are your sponsors?
[7/28/2013 6:33:26 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: how much do you think you could afford to pay players?
[7/28/2013 6:34:03 PM] Pascal Anton: we are currently talking to a new sponsor
[7/28/2013 6:34:10 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: oh nice
[7/28/2013 6:34:11 PM] Pascal Anton: a big european company
[7/28/2013 6:34:17 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: thats exciting
[7/28/2013 6:34:21 PM] Pascal Anton: and they said they need one more week
[7/28/2013 6:34:28 PM] Pascal Anton: to decide how much they wanna give us
[7/28/2013 6:34:28 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: awesome
[7/28/2013 6:34:32 PM] Pascal Anton: so
[7/28/2013 6:34:36 PM] Pascal Anton: in case that happens
[7/28/2013 6:34:39 PM] Pascal Anton: we can pay
[7/28/2013 6:34:45 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: ok well let me know in weeks time
[7/28/2013 6:34:49 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: i dont think we will amke a decision
[7/28/2013 6:34:52 PM] Pascal Anton: we have some small sponsors right now
[7/28/2013 6:34:53 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: until atleast another week
[7/28/2013 6:34:59 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: do you guys give gear to players?
[7/28/2013 6:35:02 PM] Pascal Anton: yes
[7/28/2013 6:35:08 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: ah thats also nice
[7/28/2013 6:35:10 PM] Pascal Anton: 100 percent paid to pro players
[7/28/2013 6:35:19 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: hmm?
[7/28/2013 6:35:24 PM] Pascal Anton: i meant
[7/28/2013 6:35:29 PM] Pascal Anton: we pay 100 percent
[7/28/2013 6:35:32 PM] Pascal Anton: of the gear
[7/28/2013 6:35:33 PM] Pascal Anton:
[7/28/2013 6:35:37 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: ooo
[7/28/2013 6:35:38 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: gotcha
[7/28/2013 6:35:47 PM] Pascal Anton: but of course according to contract
[7/28/2013 6:35:53 PM] Pascal Anton: players cant come every week
[7/28/2013 6:35:58 PM] Pascal Anton: and ask for new stuff
[7/28/2013 6:36:01 PM] Pascal Anton: thats just too much ofc
[7/28/2013 6:36:09 PM] Pascal Anton: since you don't need new stuff each week
[7/28/2013 6:36:16 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: absolutely
[7/28/2013 6:36:18 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: i agree
[7/28/2013 6:36:21 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: you have contracts right?
[7/28/2013 6:37:35 PM] Pascal Anton: yes
[7/28/2013 6:37:46 PM] Pascal Anton: according to international laws
[7/28/2013 6:37:57 PM] Pascal Anton: so our contracts are real contracts
[7/28/2013 6:37:57 PM] Pascal Anton:
[7/28/2013 6:38:05 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: thats great
[7/28/2013 6:38:12 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: we like nice contracts that are clear and detailed
[7/28/2013 6:38:16 PM] Pascal Anton: yes
[7/28/2013 6:38:17 PM] Pascal Anton: without
[7/28/2013 6:38:20 PM] Pascal Anton: im not gonna do it
[7/28/2013 6:38:21 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: what range do you think you could pay us if the big sponsor doesnt happen?
[7/28/2013 6:38:21 PM] Pascal Anton:
[7/28/2013 6:38:28 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: and what range do you think you could pay us if b ig sponsor does happen?
[7/28/2013 6:38:38 PM] Pascal Anton: without sponsor?
[7/28/2013 6:38:42 PM] Pascal Anton: hmmmm
[7/28/2013 6:38:46 PM] Pascal Anton: 3 players?
[7/28/2013 6:38:57 PM] Pascal Anton: i cant pay 3 players without sponsor
[7/28/2013 6:39:03 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: ah ok
[7/28/2013 6:39:08 PM] Pascal Anton: with sponsor i think around 200-300
[7/28/2013 6:39:12 PM] Pascal Anton: a month
[7/28/2013 6:39:15 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: usd?
[7/28/2013 6:39:19 PM] Pascal Anton: euros
[7/28/2013 6:39:27 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: oh nice
[7/28/2013 6:39:27 PM] Pascal Anton: we pay in euros
[7/28/2013 6:39:52 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: well please keep in contact and let me know


Then the other half of our conversation was about clarity gaming and apparently how this manager thinks they are a scam.

[7/30/2013 7:11:07 PM] Pascal Anton: i scrolled up
[7/30/2013 7:11:16 PM] Pascal Anton: until june 10th
[7/30/2013 7:11:17 PM] Pascal Anton: no luck
[7/30/2013 7:11:20 PM] Pascal Anton: maybe they deleted it
[7/30/2013 10:30:51 PM] Pascal Anton: they don't pay salaries
[7/30/2013 10:31:01 PM] Pascal Anton: and they love smacktalking about all clans
[7/30/2013 10:31:21 PM] Pascal Anton: this is from a manager of a well known clan
[7/30/2013 10:31:23 PM] Pascal Anton: he just told me
[7/30/2013 10:31:59 PM] Pascal Anton: no
[7/30/2013 10:32:00 PM] Pascal Anton: way bigger clan
[7/30/2013 10:32:09 PM] Pascal Anton: sorry , im not gonna tell you the name ;
[7/30/2013 10:32:10 PM] Pascal Anton:
[7/30/2013 10:32:13 PM] Pascal Anton: i hope you understand
[7/30/2013 10:32:16 PM] Milad Alucozai: oh
[7/30/2013 10:32:17 PM] Milad Alucozai: its ok
[7/30/2013 10:32:23 PM] Milad Alucozai: i just want credibility in statements haha
[7/30/2013 10:32:25 PM] Pascal Anton: but cg is more or less scam
[7/30/2013 10:32:34 PM] Pascal Anton: well
[7/30/2013 10:32:37 PM] Pascal Anton: what can i say
[7/30/2013 10:32:45 PM] Pascal Anton: all im trying to do is to warn you
[7/30/2013 10:32:52 PM] Milad Alucozai: yah but my friends
[7/30/2013 10:32:54 PM] Milad Alucozai: are asking
[7/30/2013 10:33:02 PM] Milad Alucozai: "nano is it a big team saying this? which team?"
[7/30/2013 10:33:07 PM] Milad Alucozai: it just makes it stronger that w ay
[7/30/2013 10:33:08 PM] Milad Alucozai:
[7/30/2013 10:34:08 PM] Pascal Anton: what you mean?
[7/30/2013 10:34:12 PM] Milad Alucozai: i promise it will just be between you and me
[7/30/2013 10:34:15 PM] Milad Alucozai: i just want to tell players
[7/30/2013 10:34:19 PM] Milad Alucozai: "trust me i have good source"
[7/30/2013 10:34:22 PM] Pascal Anton: you really promise, ok?
[7/30/2013 10:34:24 PM] Milad Alucozai: ok
[7/30/2013 10:34:25 PM] Pascal Anton: so no bullshit
[7/30/2013 10:34:27 PM] Milad Alucozai: no
[7/30/2013 10:34:29 PM] Pascal Anton: quantic
[7/30/2013 10:34:35 PM] Milad Alucozai: who in quantic?
[7/30/2013 10:34:36 PM] Milad Alucozai: JM?
[7/30/2013 10:34:50 PM] Pascal Anton: ..........
[7/30/2013 10:34:54 PM] Pascal Anton: dude
[7/30/2013 10:35:00 PM] Pascal Anton: you're killing me here...
[7/30/2013 10:35:11 PM] Milad Alucozai: sorry but only person
[7/30/2013 10:35:13 PM] Milad Alucozai: i trust in quantic
[7/30/2013 10:35:14 PM] Milad Alucozai: is JM.
[7/30/2013 10:35:16 PM] Milad Alucozai: lol
[7/30/2013 10:35:22 PM] Pascal Anton: hold on
[7/30/2013 10:35:24 PM] Milad Alucozai: he is good guy
[7/30/2013 10:35:24 PM] Milad Alucozai: ok

[7/30/2013 10:39:23 PM] Pascal Anton: me too
[7/30/2013 10:39:44 PM] Pascal Anton: so
[7/30/2013 10:39:48 PM] Pascal Anton: you watched dragon lately?
[7/30/2013 10:39:56 PM] Pascal Anton: it says more than words can say
[7/30/2013 10:40:11 PM] Milad Alucozai: what you mean?
[7/30/2013 10:40:19 PM] Pascal Anton: he is super sad
[7/30/2013 10:40:23 PM] Pascal Anton: playing bad on purpose
[7/30/2013 10:40:26 PM] Milad Alucozai: why he sad?
[7/30/2013 10:40:31 PM] Pascal Anton: on his main cg account
[7/30/2013 10:40:55 PM] Milad Alucozai: what happend
[7/30/2013 10:40:55 PM] Milad Alucozai: ?

[7/30/2013 10:36:06 PM] Pascal Anton: [31.07.13 04:27:23] Pascal Anton: you said he probably is scam
[31.07.13 04:27:28] Pascal Anton: this is how clarity called us
[31.07.13 04:27:29] Pascal Anton: xD
[31.07.13 04:27:34] Pascal Anton: haha
[31.07.13 04:27:59] Pascal Anton: do they actually pay salaries? i heard no, only when they have donations
[31.07.13 04:29:10] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: yeah
[31.07.13 04:29:12] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: they don't
[31.07.13 04:29:23] Pascal Anton: so who is scam xD
[31.07.13 04:29:29] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: lol
[31.07.13 04:29:29] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: I don't like them
[31.07.13 04:29:36] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: they talked so much smack about us
[7/30/2013 10:53:48 PM] Pascal Anton: but seriously now
[7/30/2013 10:54:04 PM] Pascal Anton: i didn't tell you this about clarity, because im interested in new players and want them for myself
[7/30/2013 10:54:18 PM] Pascal Anton: i get offers every day
[7/30/2013 10:54:21 PM] Pascal Anton: really...every day
[7/30/2013 10:54:33 PM] Pascal Anton: i don't need to talk bad about other clans
[7/30/2013 10:54:41 PM] Pascal Anton: im just being honest and tell you my opinion and experiences
[7/30/2013 10:54:44 PM] Pascal Anton: i hope you know that
[7/30/2013 10:55:42 PM] Milad Alucozai: yah i do
[7/30/2013 10:32:50 PM] Pascal Anton: its up to you what you decide

This team offered us 200-300 Euros, told us Clarity was a scam, and told me the source he had was Quantic JM. This 200-300 Euro thing sounds just as big of a scam as smi's promises.


Also Rei, I know that people reading through all your comments will quickly realize that you were part of smi from the get go. You were here from day 1 when Anderson Barrett approached your team. You dont have an excuse such as "I wasn't here to supervise anything." Tim Dirtybird was legitimately away at the beginning. You've always been here and were a manager of the team! Dont think I dont know that you and Anderson Barrett were on the same wavelength. I'm not inclined to believe a 35+yrold man would have no clue that Anderson was trying to scam us players. You should've had enough power as assistant manager to Dirtybird to say something. I know that in many of your comments trying to make me look bad, you are trying to save face for smi and yourself. I feel bad for smi getting scammed by anderson just as much as the next guy, but dont try shifting attention to a pointless arguement. It doesnt work

I find you just as much to blame as Anderson because you were a manager that was around during the whole situation. You have no excuse.


The game I played with you shows that you had GM rating and I had platinum. It was a practice game where I was trying a new build. If you watch the replay, my apm is 0 for quite some time. Why do you think that is? Oh, because I was alt tabbed and writing notes down. I have many more replays where I have 0 apm for durations of the game.

I play for my CSL team, I complete at local lans, and I've done pretty well for an amateur player. I'm no where near top tier. Why would I try to pretend I'm better than my skill level. You think by faking it, I would be able to get on a good team? What after that? I would imagine that team would expect me to show my skill via demonstration even if it was a coaching or academy position. The higher up you go in sc2, the more expectations to play in live tournaments, qualifiers, and other events. If anything, the best option if I was faking my skill level would be NOT TO TRY to get on any team. If I wanted to make money off online gaming. I would def switch over to LoL haha.

I would gain 0 from paying koreans to play on my account. It is quite hard to make a living playing sc2 unless you are literally the top players in the world. I also would gain nothing in the real world by going around my college and telling people, Hi I'm grandmaster on the NA server. <---- WHAT WOULD THAT GET ME? lol. Aside from strange stares.

The only thing I do that is frowned upon is on occasion I boost friends accounts. I usually dont charge anything. We only did that to this Anderson kid because we wanted to see if he was scamming us. Thats why we split the job 4 ways. It was just to see if he would end up paying us.

I do know that there are many players who make a source of income from boosting. I dont do that. I boost only close friends.

SCA, you guys have a bad reputation already. You are making your own team look bad with the lies you spread. You guys stream snipe, stream cheat, and on various occasions you have ddosed players. I dont know what your goals are as a clan, but I wish you best of luck with your clan.

Regardless of the lies spread above, I've decided to take a few months off from NA and switch back to EU full-time. I'm going to work hard on EU and hopefully after all this drama dies down I will come back to NA.

I wish everyone good luck. I hope this smi scam was a lesson for everyone and I hope people like Anderson Barrett dont continue to plague e-sports with fake promises of gear/money.


Good luck to all my friends from NA! I also wish Sonic, Jonsnow, and Virium the best of luck on a new team(whatever that team is). These guys are great players and well mannered. They kept me sane during the smi scam, and fun practicing 1v1's and playing arcade games with them. GL HF #usafighting

ty for all those who support me and reached out to me. For a noname player, it was quite nice to see the comments on skype and sc2 that told me to ignore the haters/trolls. This is my last post on this thread.








What? what a load of shit. I have NEVER heard pascal talk about any clan or team badly. In fact we talk about pro teams all the time and how we can be like them and improve ourselves as a team. This is a load of shit and I do not believe it for a second. He doesn't even type like this...



To respond to comments made by JM, Mario, OG manager, and others. I've uploaded screenshots of the skype conversation. These are excerts. The total conversation would've been like 30 more images. If you guys really think that I photoshopped 15 images, then I dont know what to say.


SKYPE CONVERSATION


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The fact is LYGF called Clarity Gaming a scam.
I dont know the reason behind why, perhaps they really didnt want smi players to go to clarity or they really do believe they are a scam. I've spoken to Clarity, and everything that LYGF and JM have said are total lies regarding Clarity as an organization. Please dont believe the comments they made. If you have any specific questions regarding clarity as an organization and their credibility, please contact someone on Clarity.

I think the bigger scam is making a claim that you can pay 200-300 euros. Keep it real. Also Mario, I guess this is a rude awakening for you since its the first time you've seen "pascal talk this way or type like this." I know there are many others in this chat that only defended the person because they are friends but I ask you guys to look past friendship and look at the facts.

Lets just all manner up, respect each other, stop gossiping about other teams, and hopefully e-sports can become more healthy. adios.

p.s. sorry if images are out of order... no idea how to control that.





Dude, Nanocloud get the fuck off TL, you are such a joke right now. Instead of defend the allegations you go right back to what I expected of you. Mud slinging to deflect all the blame on you. Please go try and destroy another community, this one has ousted you. The way you move and act has been noted by too many people at this point, time to reroll buddy. You make up everything that I hate about online communities. Like a fish out of water, and don't keep saying "last post" then post again and again with more bullshit than before.

GG NO RE gtfo

P.S. When you forge skype conversations make sure you pay attention to the time stamps.
In there like swimwear.
eLeVaTioN
Profile Joined February 2012
United States97 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 06:20:10
August 05 2013 06:18 GMT
#459
There are still parts of the conversation (the two parts that would have proved what you claim JM and Pascal said was true) that aren't there. You also edited a number of your responses out of the conversation you posted so even though a lot of it checks out, why were you editing those out? That's what still seems a bit fishy here, aside from the fact that you didn't screenshot the conversation you had about YuMe and the last part of the conversation where Pascal said he made those claims because he wants players for himself.

Until you include those (if what you're saying is even true), the only thing that shows is Pascal may not understand how Clarity runs it's team (I obviously don't know their situation so I don't know if the part about donations is true or not) and his comment about Clarity being a scam may have been uncalled for but also since English isn't his native language, he may not have known the proper term to use ASSUMING he meant to just say it was a bad business model based on what he claims to have seen and heard.

Also the part where you asked if oG was the team that made those claims made me laugh a little.
HTOMario
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States439 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 07:46:18
August 05 2013 07:25 GMT
#460
On August 05 2013 14:28 NanoClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 10:26 HTOMario wrote:
On August 05 2013 04:39 NanoClouD wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:23 rei wrote:
On August 04 2013 18:04 QuanticDualan wrote:
Ok, I posted something about Nanocloud trying to get into Quantic Academy with 4 other guys earlier but he messaged me to please take it down because he didn't want his reputation destroyed. Now, I have decided that I don't want to keep quiet anymore as I have found out that he has been lying to other people. Here's the deal, Nanocloud went up to me asking if he and 4 other guys can get into Quantic Academy with him as coach/manager. I declined him because our roster was full and taking in 5 players would be ridiculous, there was also some negative feedback about him. I have also heard previously that he was telling other people that he could get his 5 into our Quantic Academy easily without even talking to me and today after talking to another manager, that rumor about him saying that Quantic wanting them was indeed true.

[29.07.13 00:15:20] Pascal Anton: may i ask you
[29.07.13 00:15:30] Pascal Anton: who is yume?
[29.07.13 00:15:36] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: he was from sca
[29.07.13 00:15:38] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: then we kicked him for bm
[29.07.13 00:15:42] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: now he is on quantic academy
[29.07.13 00:16:05] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: but quantic management and few other teams want us
[29.07.13 00:16:14] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: and we were told from a friend of mine that you might also have financial
[29.07.13 00:16:15] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: backing
[29.07.13 00:16:18] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: to support us

Anton Pascal is the manager of another up and coming team who I gave Nanocloud's contact to in order for me to be able to help him a bit. The conversation I have posted here is the first time Nanocloud and Anton talk, during the conversation Nanocloud claims that Quantic management wants them as part of their team right after I declined them entry to our team. I never wanted all of this to go out in the open, but I feel that the lying should stop. I feel really bad for the other four players along with him as they are really really talented players and they deserve to be able to find a good home. To the four players with Nanocloud I wish you good luck in a finding a team, and to Nanocloud please do not use other team's name in order to gain favor for yourself. GLHF


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[8:03:25 AM] Carlos Grijalva: [Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:23 PM] Milad Alucozai:
hahahaha
dont be looking soon
will take some time
atleast few months
before i get back
hopefully then the drama will all die down

[8:03:33 AM] Carlos Grijalva: [Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:24 PM] Milad Alucozai:
<<< anyways i wanted to let you guys know
that i'm going to be quitting sc2
i might come back once my wrists get healed up
but i just cant handle the bm/trolls

[8:03:33 AM] Carlos Grijalva: [Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:24 PM] Milad Alucozai:

<<< probably going to have to namechange again
so many name changes
lol

This is what nanocloud msg one of my players yesterday, He said he will be back, under a new name.


Here was the real message.

[7/28/2013 6:15:15 PM] Pascal Anton: may i ask you
[7/28/2013 6:15:25 PM] Pascal Anton: who is yume?
[7/28/2013 6:15:30 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: he was from sca
[7/28/2013 6:15:38 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: then he left to search for another team
[7/28/2013 6:15:40 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: he kept trying to abuse his captain power and people didn’t like it.
[7/28/2013 6:15:46 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: now he is on quantic academy
[7/28/2013 6:15:50 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: I think he is on academy team. He streams still.
[7/28/2013 6:15:59 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: we spoke to a few quantic players, it would be cool to join them.
[7/28/2013 6:16:05 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: but quantic management is only interested in a few of our players.
[7/28/2013 6:16:30 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: A manager from quantic told me your team had financial backing?
[7/28/2013 6:16:30 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: to support us all?

That is the actual conversation. Also I reference interested in a few players from the following message from JM.

[7/26/2013 11:25:11 PM] Milad "sMi.NanoClouD" Alucozai: It would've been nice to be part of the quantic family but if thats not possible t hen we will try other teams. Thanks for time.
[7/26/2013 11:25:19 PM] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: thanks as well
[7/26/2013 11:28:49 PM] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: to be very honest though, I am highly interested in jonsnow as he impressed me in ATC qualifiers against EG


Anyway, here is more of the convo.

[7/28/2013 6:27:40 PM] Pascal Anton: LYGF is member of the gaming network
[7/28/2013 6:27:54 PM] Pascal Anton: so
[7/28/2013 6:28:05 PM] Pascal Anton: i tell you how the situation i
[7/28/2013 6:28:05 PM] Pascal Anton: s
[7/28/2013 6:28:08 PM] Pascal Anton: around LYGF
[7/28/2013 6:30:09 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: sure give me some details
[7/28/2013 6:30:12 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: we arent familiar with Lygf
[7/28/2013 6:30:34 PM] Pascal Anton: www.loveyourgirlfriend.net
[7/28/2013 6:30:42 PM] Pascal Anton: sorry, i just have so many convos open xD
[7/28/2013 6:30:49 PM] Pascal Anton: so what we do
[7/28/2013 6:30:55 PM] Pascal Anton: usually is paying pro gamers
[7/28/2013 6:30:59 PM] Pascal Anton: a montly salary
[7/28/2013 6:31:09 PM] Pascal Anton: that might be higher than from other clans
[7/28/2013 6:31:36 PM] Pascal Anton: on the other hand, we don't have much money left for big tournaments for every player
[7/28/2013 6:31:38 PM] Pascal Anton: you understand?
[7/28/2013 6:31:43 PM] Pascal Anton: but
[7/28/2013 6:31:47 PM] Pascal Anton: when a player comes to me
[7/28/2013 6:31:58 PM] Pascal Anton: and tells me his priorities
[7/28/2013 6:32:03 PM] Pascal Anton: then for sure we can talk
[7/28/2013 6:32:05 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: sure
[7/28/2013 6:32:11 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: and we dont expect that from day one or anything
[7/28/2013 6:33:20 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: who are your sponsors?
[7/28/2013 6:33:26 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: how much do you think you could afford to pay players?
[7/28/2013 6:34:03 PM] Pascal Anton: we are currently talking to a new sponsor
[7/28/2013 6:34:10 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: oh nice
[7/28/2013 6:34:11 PM] Pascal Anton: a big european company
[7/28/2013 6:34:17 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: thats exciting
[7/28/2013 6:34:21 PM] Pascal Anton: and they said they need one more week
[7/28/2013 6:34:28 PM] Pascal Anton: to decide how much they wanna give us
[7/28/2013 6:34:28 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: awesome
[7/28/2013 6:34:32 PM] Pascal Anton: so
[7/28/2013 6:34:36 PM] Pascal Anton: in case that happens
[7/28/2013 6:34:39 PM] Pascal Anton: we can pay
[7/28/2013 6:34:45 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: ok well let me know in weeks time
[7/28/2013 6:34:49 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: i dont think we will amke a decision
[7/28/2013 6:34:52 PM] Pascal Anton: we have some small sponsors right now
[7/28/2013 6:34:53 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: until atleast another week
[7/28/2013 6:34:59 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: do you guys give gear to players?
[7/28/2013 6:35:02 PM] Pascal Anton: yes
[7/28/2013 6:35:08 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: ah thats also nice
[7/28/2013 6:35:10 PM] Pascal Anton: 100 percent paid to pro players
[7/28/2013 6:35:19 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: hmm?
[7/28/2013 6:35:24 PM] Pascal Anton: i meant
[7/28/2013 6:35:29 PM] Pascal Anton: we pay 100 percent
[7/28/2013 6:35:32 PM] Pascal Anton: of the gear
[7/28/2013 6:35:33 PM] Pascal Anton:
[7/28/2013 6:35:37 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: ooo
[7/28/2013 6:35:38 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: gotcha
[7/28/2013 6:35:47 PM] Pascal Anton: but of course according to contract
[7/28/2013 6:35:53 PM] Pascal Anton: players cant come every week
[7/28/2013 6:35:58 PM] Pascal Anton: and ask for new stuff
[7/28/2013 6:36:01 PM] Pascal Anton: thats just too much ofc
[7/28/2013 6:36:09 PM] Pascal Anton: since you don't need new stuff each week
[7/28/2013 6:36:16 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: absolutely
[7/28/2013 6:36:18 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: i agree
[7/28/2013 6:36:21 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: you have contracts right?
[7/28/2013 6:37:35 PM] Pascal Anton: yes
[7/28/2013 6:37:46 PM] Pascal Anton: according to international laws
[7/28/2013 6:37:57 PM] Pascal Anton: so our contracts are real contracts
[7/28/2013 6:37:57 PM] Pascal Anton:
[7/28/2013 6:38:05 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: thats great
[7/28/2013 6:38:12 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: we like nice contracts that are clear and detailed
[7/28/2013 6:38:16 PM] Pascal Anton: yes
[7/28/2013 6:38:17 PM] Pascal Anton: without
[7/28/2013 6:38:20 PM] Pascal Anton: im not gonna do it
[7/28/2013 6:38:21 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: what range do you think you could pay us if the big sponsor doesnt happen?
[7/28/2013 6:38:21 PM] Pascal Anton:
[7/28/2013 6:38:28 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: and what range do you think you could pay us if b ig sponsor does happen?
[7/28/2013 6:38:38 PM] Pascal Anton: without sponsor?
[7/28/2013 6:38:42 PM] Pascal Anton: hmmmm
[7/28/2013 6:38:46 PM] Pascal Anton: 3 players?
[7/28/2013 6:38:57 PM] Pascal Anton: i cant pay 3 players without sponsor
[7/28/2013 6:39:03 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: ah ok
[7/28/2013 6:39:08 PM] Pascal Anton: with sponsor i think around 200-300
[7/28/2013 6:39:12 PM] Pascal Anton: a month
[7/28/2013 6:39:15 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: usd?
[7/28/2013 6:39:19 PM] Pascal Anton: euros
[7/28/2013 6:39:27 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: oh nice
[7/28/2013 6:39:27 PM] Pascal Anton: we pay in euros
[7/28/2013 6:39:52 PM] Milad "NanoClouD" Alucozai: well please keep in contact and let me know


Then the other half of our conversation was about clarity gaming and apparently how this manager thinks they are a scam.

[7/30/2013 7:11:07 PM] Pascal Anton: i scrolled up
[7/30/2013 7:11:16 PM] Pascal Anton: until june 10th
[7/30/2013 7:11:17 PM] Pascal Anton: no luck
[7/30/2013 7:11:20 PM] Pascal Anton: maybe they deleted it
[7/30/2013 10:30:51 PM] Pascal Anton: they don't pay salaries
[7/30/2013 10:31:01 PM] Pascal Anton: and they love smacktalking about all clans
[7/30/2013 10:31:21 PM] Pascal Anton: this is from a manager of a well known clan
[7/30/2013 10:31:23 PM] Pascal Anton: he just told me
[7/30/2013 10:31:59 PM] Pascal Anton: no
[7/30/2013 10:32:00 PM] Pascal Anton: way bigger clan
[7/30/2013 10:32:09 PM] Pascal Anton: sorry , im not gonna tell you the name ;
[7/30/2013 10:32:10 PM] Pascal Anton:
[7/30/2013 10:32:13 PM] Pascal Anton: i hope you understand
[7/30/2013 10:32:16 PM] Milad Alucozai: oh
[7/30/2013 10:32:17 PM] Milad Alucozai: its ok
[7/30/2013 10:32:23 PM] Milad Alucozai: i just want credibility in statements haha
[7/30/2013 10:32:25 PM] Pascal Anton: but cg is more or less scam
[7/30/2013 10:32:34 PM] Pascal Anton: well
[7/30/2013 10:32:37 PM] Pascal Anton: what can i say
[7/30/2013 10:32:45 PM] Pascal Anton: all im trying to do is to warn you
[7/30/2013 10:32:52 PM] Milad Alucozai: yah but my friends
[7/30/2013 10:32:54 PM] Milad Alucozai: are asking
[7/30/2013 10:33:02 PM] Milad Alucozai: "nano is it a big team saying this? which team?"
[7/30/2013 10:33:07 PM] Milad Alucozai: it just makes it stronger that w ay
[7/30/2013 10:33:08 PM] Milad Alucozai:
[7/30/2013 10:34:08 PM] Pascal Anton: what you mean?
[7/30/2013 10:34:12 PM] Milad Alucozai: i promise it will just be between you and me
[7/30/2013 10:34:15 PM] Milad Alucozai: i just want to tell players
[7/30/2013 10:34:19 PM] Milad Alucozai: "trust me i have good source"
[7/30/2013 10:34:22 PM] Pascal Anton: you really promise, ok?
[7/30/2013 10:34:24 PM] Milad Alucozai: ok
[7/30/2013 10:34:25 PM] Pascal Anton: so no bullshit
[7/30/2013 10:34:27 PM] Milad Alucozai: no
[7/30/2013 10:34:29 PM] Pascal Anton: quantic
[7/30/2013 10:34:35 PM] Milad Alucozai: who in quantic?
[7/30/2013 10:34:36 PM] Milad Alucozai: JM?
[7/30/2013 10:34:50 PM] Pascal Anton: ..........
[7/30/2013 10:34:54 PM] Pascal Anton: dude
[7/30/2013 10:35:00 PM] Pascal Anton: you're killing me here...
[7/30/2013 10:35:11 PM] Milad Alucozai: sorry but only person
[7/30/2013 10:35:13 PM] Milad Alucozai: i trust in quantic
[7/30/2013 10:35:14 PM] Milad Alucozai: is JM.
[7/30/2013 10:35:16 PM] Milad Alucozai: lol
[7/30/2013 10:35:22 PM] Pascal Anton: hold on
[7/30/2013 10:35:24 PM] Milad Alucozai: he is good guy
[7/30/2013 10:35:24 PM] Milad Alucozai: ok

[7/30/2013 10:39:23 PM] Pascal Anton: me too
[7/30/2013 10:39:44 PM] Pascal Anton: so
[7/30/2013 10:39:48 PM] Pascal Anton: you watched dragon lately?
[7/30/2013 10:39:56 PM] Pascal Anton: it says more than words can say
[7/30/2013 10:40:11 PM] Milad Alucozai: what you mean?
[7/30/2013 10:40:19 PM] Pascal Anton: he is super sad
[7/30/2013 10:40:23 PM] Pascal Anton: playing bad on purpose
[7/30/2013 10:40:26 PM] Milad Alucozai: why he sad?
[7/30/2013 10:40:31 PM] Pascal Anton: on his main cg account
[7/30/2013 10:40:55 PM] Milad Alucozai: what happend
[7/30/2013 10:40:55 PM] Milad Alucozai: ?

[7/30/2013 10:36:06 PM] Pascal Anton: [31.07.13 04:27:23] Pascal Anton: you said he probably is scam
[31.07.13 04:27:28] Pascal Anton: this is how clarity called us
[31.07.13 04:27:29] Pascal Anton: xD
[31.07.13 04:27:34] Pascal Anton: haha
[31.07.13 04:27:59] Pascal Anton: do they actually pay salaries? i heard no, only when they have donations
[31.07.13 04:29:10] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: yeah
[31.07.13 04:29:12] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: they don't
[31.07.13 04:29:23] Pascal Anton: so who is scam xD
[31.07.13 04:29:29] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: lol
[31.07.13 04:29:29] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: I don't like them
[31.07.13 04:29:36] JM "QuanticDualan" Dualan: they talked so much smack about us
[7/30/2013 10:53:48 PM] Pascal Anton: but seriously now
[7/30/2013 10:54:04 PM] Pascal Anton: i didn't tell you this about clarity, because im interested in new players and want them for myself
[7/30/2013 10:54:18 PM] Pascal Anton: i get offers every day
[7/30/2013 10:54:21 PM] Pascal Anton: really...every day
[7/30/2013 10:54:33 PM] Pascal Anton: i don't need to talk bad about other clans
[7/30/2013 10:54:41 PM] Pascal Anton: im just being honest and tell you my opinion and experiences
[7/30/2013 10:54:44 PM] Pascal Anton: i hope you know that
[7/30/2013 10:55:42 PM] Milad Alucozai: yah i do
[7/30/2013 10:32:50 PM] Pascal Anton: its up to you what you decide

This team offered us 200-300 Euros, told us Clarity was a scam, and told me the source he had was Quantic JM. This 200-300 Euro thing sounds just as big of a scam as smi's promises.


Also Rei, I know that people reading through all your comments will quickly realize that you were part of smi from the get go. You were here from day 1 when Anderson Barrett approached your team. You dont have an excuse such as "I wasn't here to supervise anything." Tim Dirtybird was legitimately away at the beginning. You've always been here and were a manager of the team! Dont think I dont know that you and Anderson Barrett were on the same wavelength. I'm not inclined to believe a 35+yrold man would have no clue that Anderson was trying to scam us players. You should've had enough power as assistant manager to Dirtybird to say something. I know that in many of your comments trying to make me look bad, you are trying to save face for smi and yourself. I feel bad for smi getting scammed by anderson just as much as the next guy, but dont try shifting attention to a pointless arguement. It doesnt work

I find you just as much to blame as Anderson because you were a manager that was around during the whole situation. You have no excuse.


The game I played with you shows that you had GM rating and I had platinum. It was a practice game where I was trying a new build. If you watch the replay, my apm is 0 for quite some time. Why do you think that is? Oh, because I was alt tabbed and writing notes down. I have many more replays where I have 0 apm for durations of the game.

I play for my CSL team, I complete at local lans, and I've done pretty well for an amateur player. I'm no where near top tier. Why would I try to pretend I'm better than my skill level. You think by faking it, I would be able to get on a good team? What after that? I would imagine that team would expect me to show my skill via demonstration even if it was a coaching or academy position. The higher up you go in sc2, the more expectations to play in live tournaments, qualifiers, and other events. If anything, the best option if I was faking my skill level would be NOT TO TRY to get on any team. If I wanted to make money off online gaming. I would def switch over to LoL haha.

I would gain 0 from paying koreans to play on my account. It is quite hard to make a living playing sc2 unless you are literally the top players in the world. I also would gain nothing in the real world by going around my college and telling people, Hi I'm grandmaster on the NA server. <---- WHAT WOULD THAT GET ME? lol. Aside from strange stares.

The only thing I do that is frowned upon is on occasion I boost friends accounts. I usually dont charge anything. We only did that to this Anderson kid because we wanted to see if he was scamming us. Thats why we split the job 4 ways. It was just to see if he would end up paying us.

I do know that there are many players who make a source of income from boosting. I dont do that. I boost only close friends.

SCA, you guys have a bad reputation already. You are making your own team look bad with the lies you spread. You guys stream snipe, stream cheat, and on various occasions you have ddosed players. I dont know what your goals are as a clan, but I wish you best of luck with your clan.

Regardless of the lies spread above, I've decided to take a few months off from NA and switch back to EU full-time. I'm going to work hard on EU and hopefully after all this drama dies down I will come back to NA.

I wish everyone good luck. I hope this smi scam was a lesson for everyone and I hope people like Anderson Barrett dont continue to plague e-sports with fake promises of gear/money.


Good luck to all my friends from NA! I also wish Sonic, Jonsnow, and Virium the best of luck on a new team(whatever that team is). These guys are great players and well mannered. They kept me sane during the smi scam, and fun practicing 1v1's and playing arcade games with them. GL HF #usafighting

ty for all those who support me and reached out to me. For a noname player, it was quite nice to see the comments on skype and sc2 that told me to ignore the haters/trolls. This is my last post on this thread.








What? what a load of shit. I have NEVER heard pascal talk about any clan or team badly. In fact we talk about pro teams all the time and how we can be like them and improve ourselves as a team. This is a load of shit and I do not believe it for a second. He doesn't even type like this...



To respond to comments made by JM, Mario, OG manager, and others. I've uploaded screenshots of the skype conversation. These are excerts. The total conversation would've been like 30 more images. If you guys really think that I photoshopped 15 images, then I dont know what to say.


SKYPE CONVERSATION


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The fact is LYGF called Clarity Gaming a scam.
I dont know the reason behind why, perhaps they really didnt want smi players to go to clarity or they really do believe they are a scam. I've spoken to Clarity, and everything that LYGF and JM have said are total lies regarding Clarity as an organization. Please dont believe the comments they made. If you have any specific questions regarding clarity as an organization and their credibility, please contact someone on Clarity.

I think the bigger scam is making a claim that you can pay 200-300 euros. Keep it real. Also Mario, I guess this is a rude awakening for you since its the first time you've seen "pascal talk this way or type like this." I know there are many others in this chat that only defended the person because they are friends but I ask you guys to look past friendship and look at the facts.

Lets just all manner up, respect each other, stop gossiping about other teams, and hopefully e-sports can become more healthy. adios.

p.s. sorry if images are out of order... no idea how to control that.






You like posting silly things and having that god awful thread on the left side where I was accused of boosting? How about I show our little conversation?
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read the bottom of the first screen shot. It says: ignore yume, he wanted me to say that I boosted you to steal your viewers. Hell i even got rank 47 gm on stream today, why would I need to cheat?

And btw, pascal can pay those prices because he pays me 300 EURO every month in advance from the first day I joined the team. I don't like to bring up salary but he's no scammer. I also love clarity gaming, I try to play with their players all the time for practice.
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