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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
On August 05 2013 10:25 Plansix wrote: ^ The last couple threads dealing with ladies in the SC2 scene has brought out the sexists in the community. It's been pretty enlightening how far we have to go. vocal minority. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27262 Posts
To be fair, how many players play 2 pro games, don't stream or cast and have farewell threads dedicated to them? Still found some of the comments ridiculous mind. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 01 2013 08:16 Valon wrote: It's sad she is so hard on herself. The couple times she played in GSTL it was clear she cared a lot. Good Luck Eve! How about tossgirl losing to Greg? Naturally emotional creatures man (pun intended because there are a lot of examples of the boys not being too thrilled about losing either). You need to have that killer instinct. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
They replayed sOs vs Innovation on Neo Planet S where sOs went tempests versus Innovation's standard comp. It lasted 1 hour and Eve eventually won. Since everyone agrees Aphrodite is among the best female pros and pretty good at the game regardless, Eve was still good at the game. Certainly better than most of the lot complaining about girls on teams. On August 05 2013 10:35 StarStruck wrote: How about tossgirl losing to Greg? Naturally emotional creatures man (pun intended because there are a lot of examples of the boys not being too thrilled about losing either). You need to have that killer instinct. MKP crybaby | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Of course, it's just so amazing the level of nonsense that comes out. Shit I would never say out loud in front of my girlfriend, mother or sister. | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
On August 05 2013 10:34 Wombat_NI wrote: To be fair, how many players play 2 pro games, don't stream or cast and have farewell threads dedicated to them? Still found some of the comments ridiculous mind. the community should not be generalized as sexist based on the comments of a select few. eve has received as much positive attention as she has negative attention, but to focus on the latter is destructive. | ||
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thirtyapm
521 Posts
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Nesserev
Belgium2760 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27262 Posts
On August 05 2013 10:43 Terranist wrote: the community should not be generalized as sexist based on the comments of a select few. eve has received as much positive attention as she has negative attention, but to focus on the latter is destructive. From my view, some of the positive stuff is incredibly' patronising and to overlook that is to perpetuate the very sexism that people rail against. It's not just negative comments that create a sexist environment. | ||
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DeathProfessor
United States1052 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27262 Posts
On August 05 2013 10:45 DeathProfessor wrote: I am not trying to fan flames but how is SC2 NOT a mans world, not sure why that is so offensive. Its like 99.99% male. 'It's a man's world' kind of infers that it is a natural state of affairs, or is some kind of unchangeable, immutable law of nature. Saying 'it's an activity largely populated by men' is more neutral. | ||
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thezanursic
5500 Posts
I don't want to seem like an ass, but people are making a fuss over nothing. She basically did nothing for the entire course of her career. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 05 2013 10:46 Wombat_NI wrote: 'It's a man's world' kind of infers that it is a natural state of affairs, or is some kind of unchangeable, immutable law of nature. Saying 'it's an activity largely populated by men' is more neutral. He missed out on and was never told about the 50s and the context of the phase "a mans world" has. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On August 05 2013 10:35 StarStruck wrote: How about tossgirl losing to Greg? Naturally emotional creatures man (pun intended because there are a lot of examples of the boys not being too thrilled about losing either). You need to have that killer instinct. Where's the pun... | ||
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Rhaegal
United States678 Posts
On August 05 2013 10:46 Wombat_NI wrote: 'It's a man's world' kind of infers that it is a natural state of affairs, or is some kind of unchangeable, immutable law of nature. Saying 'it's an activity largely populated by men' is more neutral. I always wondered why so many people try to attest social issues to deep, abstract things like society/culture, or the human psyche. Female oppression is soley from one reason-- physical inferiority. Look at the world around you. Strong animals prey on weaker ones. Hell, look at our history. Men have suffered a hell of a lot worse things from other men that women have. People try to find an explanation for murder, or war, or oppression, anything else, but if you just look at life itself you'll find your answers. We are no more different than lions. We kill, mate, eat, and die. It's how it's been since the dawn of life, and it's how life will continue to be. A few people in developed countries try to find the root of humanities problems and the answers to what they deem as barbaric, while the world around them burns. Life is violent chaos, where the weak die or are manipulated, and the strong live until they meet someone stronger. A "scholarly" approach will do nothing to change the nature of life. | ||
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
On August 05 2013 10:56 Rhaegal wrote: I always wondered why so many people try to attest social issues to deep, abstract things like society/culture, or the human psyche. Female oppression is soley from one reason-- physical inferiority. Look at the world around you. Strong animals prey on weaker ones. Hell, look at our history. Men have suffered a hell of a lot worse things from other men that women have. People try to find an explanation for murder, or war, or oppression, anything else, but if you just look at life itself you'll find your answers. We are no more different than lions. We kill, mate, eat, and die. It's how it's been since the dawn of life, and it's how life will continue to be. A few people in developed countries try to find the root of humanities problems and the answers to what they deem as barbaric, while the world around them burns. Life is violent chaos, where the weak die or are manipulated, and the strong live until they meet someone stronger. A "scholarly" approach will do nothing to change the nature of life. i don't think anyone disputes that, but it is not progressive to place psychological barriers unnecessarily. you're underestimating the tremendous advancements that have set us apart from lions. | ||
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
On August 05 2013 10:56 Rhaegal wrote: I always wondered why so many people try to attest social issues to deep, abstract things like society/culture, or the human psyche. Female oppression is soley from one reason-- physical inferiority. Look at the world around you. Strong animals prey on weaker ones. Hell, look at our history. Men have suffered a hell of a lot worse things from other men that women have. People try to find an explanation for murder, or war, or oppression, anything else, but if you just look at life itself you'll find your answers. We are no more different than lions. We kill, mate, eat, and die. It's how it's been since the dawn of life, and it's how life will continue to be. A few people in developed countries try to find the root of humanities problems and the answers to what they deem as barbaric, while the world around them burns. Life is violent chaos, where the weak die or are manipulated, and the strong live until they meet someone stronger. A "scholarly" approach will do nothing to change the nature of life. really sad seeing this thread derailed with shit like this, regardless wish eve the best with whatever shes doing/going to do now. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 05 2013 10:56 Rhaegal wrote: I always wondered why so many people try to attest social issues to deep, abstract things like society/culture, or the human psyche. Female oppression is soley from one reason-- physical inferiority. Look at the world around you. Strong animals prey on weaker ones. Hell, look at our history. Men have suffered a hell of a lot worse things from other men that women have. People try to find an explanation for murder, or war, or oppression, anything else, but if you just look at life itself you'll find your answers. We are no more different than lions. We kill, mate, eat, and die. It's how it's been since the dawn of life, and it's how life will continue to be. A few people in developed countries try to find the root of humanities problems and the answers to what they deem as barbaric, while the world around them burns. Life is violent chaos, where the weak die or are manipulated, and the strong live until they meet someone stronger. A "scholarly" approach will do nothing to change the nature of life. "All you people and your skooling and your fancy educations trying to understand the world through your books and the writings of people you never met. I look out my window and see facts. Women be smaller than me, they cry more and they don,t know how to change a tire. That's all the proof I need to know that women don't like to play hard video games." Ladies who traffic TL, this it not who we are. Don't take him seriously. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 05 2013 11:05 Plansix wrote: "All you people and your skooling and your fancy educations trying to understand the world through your books and the writings of people you never met. I look out my window and see facts. Women be smaller than me, they cry more and they don,t know how to change a tire. That's all the proof I need to know that women don't like to play hard video games." Ladies who traffic TL, this it not who we are. Don't take him seriously. Internet points with the ladies, nice. Also I find the "we are no better than animals" argument really ironic. The very sentence and its articulation, logic, and self-awareness certainly isn't something a hippopotamus would say or think. | ||
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