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Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
August 05 2013 02:18 GMT
#81
On August 05 2013 11:10 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 11:05 Plansix wrote:
On August 05 2013 10:56 Rhaegal wrote:
On August 05 2013 10:46 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 05 2013 10:45 DeathProfessor wrote:
I am not trying to fan flames but how is SC2 NOT a mans world, not sure why that is so offensive. Its like 99.99% male.

'It's a man's world' kind of infers that it is a natural state of affairs, or is some kind of unchangeable, immutable law of nature. Saying 'it's an activity largely populated by men' is more neutral.


I always wondered why so many people try to attest social issues to deep, abstract things like society/culture, or the human psyche. Female oppression is soley from one reason-- physical inferiority. Look at the world around you. Strong animals prey on weaker ones. Hell, look at our history. Men have suffered a hell of a lot worse things from other men that women have.

People try to find an explanation for murder, or war, or oppression, anything else, but if you just look at life itself you'll find your answers. We are no more different than lions. We kill, mate, eat, and die. It's how it's been since the dawn of life, and it's how life will continue to be. A few people in developed countries try to find the root of humanities problems and the answers to what they deem as barbaric, while the world around them burns. Life is violent chaos, where the weak die or are manipulated, and the strong live until they meet someone stronger.

A "scholarly" approach will do nothing to change the nature of life.

"All you people and your skooling and your fancy educations trying to understand the world through your books and the writings of people you never met. I look out my window and see facts. Women be smaller than me, they cry more and they don,t know how to change a tire. That's all the proof I need to know that women don't like to play hard video games."

Ladies who traffic TL, this it not who we are. Don't take him seriously.


Internet points with the ladies, nice.

Also I find the "we are no better than animals" argument really ironic. The very sentence and its articulation, logic, and self-awareness certainly isn't something a hippopotamus would say or think.



What country are you from?

Would I be able to have this conversation if I didn't live in a country with by far the strongest military in the world? A country built on the back of slaves and oppression? We're "civilized" and have high standards of living because our countries had a savage history and came out on the winning side. Now we live easy lives in peaceful nations, while the losers live in utter hell. Imagine if you were born into a place that hadn't had such fortune, like Africa or the Middle East. We exist because the strong permitted us to do so.

I wonder if the USA or other "first world" countries will be here in 100 years, or if they will be taken over by someone stronger. Where will the world find its scholars then?
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25995 Posts
August 05 2013 02:25 GMT
#82
On August 05 2013 11:18 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 11:10 lichter wrote:
On August 05 2013 11:05 Plansix wrote:
On August 05 2013 10:56 Rhaegal wrote:
On August 05 2013 10:46 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 05 2013 10:45 DeathProfessor wrote:
I am not trying to fan flames but how is SC2 NOT a mans world, not sure why that is so offensive. Its like 99.99% male.

'It's a man's world' kind of infers that it is a natural state of affairs, or is some kind of unchangeable, immutable law of nature. Saying 'it's an activity largely populated by men' is more neutral.


I always wondered why so many people try to attest social issues to deep, abstract things like society/culture, or the human psyche. Female oppression is soley from one reason-- physical inferiority. Look at the world around you. Strong animals prey on weaker ones. Hell, look at our history. Men have suffered a hell of a lot worse things from other men that women have.

People try to find an explanation for murder, or war, or oppression, anything else, but if you just look at life itself you'll find your answers. We are no more different than lions. We kill, mate, eat, and die. It's how it's been since the dawn of life, and it's how life will continue to be. A few people in developed countries try to find the root of humanities problems and the answers to what they deem as barbaric, while the world around them burns. Life is violent chaos, where the weak die or are manipulated, and the strong live until they meet someone stronger.

A "scholarly" approach will do nothing to change the nature of life.

"All you people and your skooling and your fancy educations trying to understand the world through your books and the writings of people you never met. I look out my window and see facts. Women be smaller than me, they cry more and they don,t know how to change a tire. That's all the proof I need to know that women don't like to play hard video games."

Ladies who traffic TL, this it not who we are. Don't take him seriously.


Internet points with the ladies, nice.

Also I find the "we are no better than animals" argument really ironic. The very sentence and its articulation, logic, and self-awareness certainly isn't something a hippopotamus would say or think.



What country are you from?

Would I be able to have this conversation if I didn't live in a country with by far the strongest military in the world? A country built on the back of slaves and oppression? We're "civilized" and have high standards of living because our countries had a savage history and came out on the winning side. Now we live easy lives in peaceful nations, while the losers live in utter hell. Imagine if you were born into a place that hadn't had such fortune, like Africa or the Middle East. We exist because the strong permitted us to do so.

I wonder if the USA or other "first world" countries will be here in 100 years, or if they will be taken over by someone stronger. Where will the world find its scholars then?

Female physical inferiority is completely different from the superior military capacity of say, the USA to other countries.

Within said society, physical prowess, while valued is hardly the most important metric for wielding power and influence, otherwise Congress would look a hell of a lot beefier than it already is.

International warfare is a field where base military strength is still the metric by which wars can be won and lost. In addition, the savagery of our collective past and presents notwithstanding, how come many of the 'strong' nations are more egalitarian in structure?

If strength and power > all, then surely those countries that have succeeded on that basis in the past, would also show the same rationale in the societal structure within their borders?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
August 05 2013 02:28 GMT
#83
This thread is actually about a starcraft player retiring and not about international warfare...
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 05 2013 02:28 GMT
#84
On August 05 2013 11:18 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 11:10 lichter wrote:
On August 05 2013 11:05 Plansix wrote:
On August 05 2013 10:56 Rhaegal wrote:
On August 05 2013 10:46 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 05 2013 10:45 DeathProfessor wrote:
I am not trying to fan flames but how is SC2 NOT a mans world, not sure why that is so offensive. Its like 99.99% male.

'It's a man's world' kind of infers that it is a natural state of affairs, or is some kind of unchangeable, immutable law of nature. Saying 'it's an activity largely populated by men' is more neutral.


I always wondered why so many people try to attest social issues to deep, abstract things like society/culture, or the human psyche. Female oppression is soley from one reason-- physical inferiority. Look at the world around you. Strong animals prey on weaker ones. Hell, look at our history. Men have suffered a hell of a lot worse things from other men that women have.

People try to find an explanation for murder, or war, or oppression, anything else, but if you just look at life itself you'll find your answers. We are no more different than lions. We kill, mate, eat, and die. It's how it's been since the dawn of life, and it's how life will continue to be. A few people in developed countries try to find the root of humanities problems and the answers to what they deem as barbaric, while the world around them burns. Life is violent chaos, where the weak die or are manipulated, and the strong live until they meet someone stronger.

A "scholarly" approach will do nothing to change the nature of life.

"All you people and your skooling and your fancy educations trying to understand the world through your books and the writings of people you never met. I look out my window and see facts. Women be smaller than me, they cry more and they don,t know how to change a tire. That's all the proof I need to know that women don't like to play hard video games."

Ladies who traffic TL, this it not who we are. Don't take him seriously.


Internet points with the ladies, nice.

Also I find the "we are no better than animals" argument really ironic. The very sentence and its articulation, logic, and self-awareness certainly isn't something a hippopotamus would say or think.



What country are you from?

Would I be able to have this conversation if I didn't live in a country with by far the strongest military in the world? A country built on the back of slaves and oppression? We're "civilized" and have high standards of living because our countries had a savage history and came out on the winning side. Now we live easy lives in peaceful nations, while the losers live in utter hell. Imagine if you were born into a place that hadn't had such fortune, like Africa or the Middle East. We exist because the strong permitted us to do so.

I wonder if the USA or other "first world" countries will be here in 100 years, or if they will be taken over by someone stronger. Where will the world find its scholars then?

What the fuck are you talking about? What does this have to do with Eve retiring?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 02:30:30
August 05 2013 02:29 GMT
#85
Nevermind, you are pointless to argue with.

ANYWAY

Nobody else saw that Star Haeng episode but me!?
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 02:35:09
August 05 2013 02:32 GMT
#86
Aaanyway, back on topic, I don't think anybody should be surprised when a non-objectively valued recruit doesn't perform too well ingame.

Ladies who traffic TL, this it not who we are. Don't take him seriously.

M'lady, please let the white knight handle this. *Tips fedora*
levelping
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore759 Posts
August 05 2013 02:58 GMT
#87
Sorry to see you go eve. Please ignore the haters and weird sexist comments. I think that her results aside she joined and trained in a highly competitive field. In the same way I would cheer on a guy who went to the gal, tried, and failed, I'll also give a /salute to eve. Yeah Adobe got a bit more attention but really so what?
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
August 05 2013 03:03 GMT
#88
On August 05 2013 11:29 lichter wrote:
Nevermind, you are pointless to argue with.

ANYWAY

Nobody else saw that Star Haeng episode but me!?

I watched the first 5 minutes

here's a link to part 1
http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl/c/2622152
If you don't like it, you can quit.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 05 2013 03:04 GMT
#89
On August 05 2013 11:32 Chocolate wrote:
Aaanyway, back on topic, I don't think anybody should be surprised when a non-objectively valued recruit doesn't perform too well ingame.

Show nested quote +
Ladies who traffic TL, this it not who we are. Don't take him seriously.

M'lady, please let the white knight handle this. *Tips fedora*

No doubt that, Eve never really panned out, but I am under qualified to say if she ever had potential.

And no problem, my white knight status is well known. Plus I had to keep it friendly, I would have been slapped down if I posted what my girlfriend was telling me to.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25995 Posts
August 05 2013 03:07 GMT
#90
On August 05 2013 12:04 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 11:32 Chocolate wrote:
Aaanyway, back on topic, I don't think anybody should be surprised when a non-objectively valued recruit doesn't perform too well ingame.

Ladies who traffic TL, this it not who we are. Don't take him seriously.

M'lady, please let the white knight handle this. *Tips fedora*

No doubt that, Eve never really panned out, but I am under qualified to say if she ever had potential.

And no problem, my white knight status is well known. Plus I had to keep it friendly, I would have been slapped down if I posted what my girlfriend was telling me to.

I don't view you as a white knight, it's a ridiculous term to mis/overuse. I'm curious to see what your girlfriend was telling you to say, PM me if my young ears can deal

Also thanks to whoever posted the video of her vs Aphrodite, the subs were nice too! Are there other Korean broadcasts which are subbed into English?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 05 2013 03:10 GMT
#91
On August 05 2013 12:07 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 12:04 Plansix wrote:
On August 05 2013 11:32 Chocolate wrote:
Aaanyway, back on topic, I don't think anybody should be surprised when a non-objectively valued recruit doesn't perform too well ingame.

Ladies who traffic TL, this it not who we are. Don't take him seriously.

M'lady, please let the white knight handle this. *Tips fedora*

No doubt that, Eve never really panned out, but I am under qualified to say if she ever had potential.

And no problem, my white knight status is well known. Plus I had to keep it friendly, I would have been slapped down if I posted what my girlfriend was telling me to.

I don't view you as a white knight, it's a ridiculous term to mis/overuse. I'm curious to see what your girlfriend was telling you to say, PM me if my young ears can deal

Also thanks to whoever posted the video of her vs Aphrodite, the subs were nice too! Are there other Korean broadcasts which are subbed into English?


All of the Star Haeng episodes they show are subbed afaik. You can check it out on their OSL VODs page.

Eve vs Aphrodite was fun. The most recent one is JangBi vs Fantasy
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 05 2013 03:18 GMT
#92
I actually never watched any games she played, mostly because I didn't know when they took place lol. GL to her though. I'm sure she'll be fine
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25995 Posts
August 05 2013 03:27 GMT
#93
Cheers Lichter, will have to give em a viewing at a suitable juncture.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
August 05 2013 03:47 GMT
#94
No results worth mentioning, never was a person of note.

User was warned for this post
Chengakz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States163 Posts
August 05 2013 03:55 GMT
#95
Maybe "no results worth mentioning" but certainly a "person of note"... GLHF Eve
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Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
August 05 2013 05:13 GMT
#96
On August 05 2013 12:47 Headnoob wrote:
No results worth mentioning, never was a person of note.


why do you feel so compelled to post in this thread?
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Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
August 05 2013 05:30 GMT
#97
On August 05 2013 14:13 Terranist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 12:47 Headnoob wrote:
No results worth mentioning, never was a person of note.


why do you feel so compelled to post in this thread?



This isn't an Eve fanclub. He doesn't have to make encouraging posts, he just stated his mind.
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 05 2013 05:39 GMT
#98
On August 05 2013 14:30 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 14:13 Terranist wrote:
On August 05 2013 12:47 Headnoob wrote:
No results worth mentioning, never was a person of note.


why do you feel so compelled to post in this thread?



This isn't an Eve fanclub. He doesn't have to make encouraging posts, he just stated his mind.


I wasn't going to butt in about this but

On August 05 2013 12:47 Headnoob wrote:
No results worth mentioning, never was a person of note.


1. First girl to play in GSTL.
2. Interesting number paradox.
3. You know about her enough to have to post something like that

And anyway if results is all that matters then Stork isn't a person of note in SC2 either
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F.O.A.D.
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada100 Posts
August 05 2013 05:43 GMT
#99
On August 05 2013 14:39 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 14:30 Rhaegal wrote:
On August 05 2013 14:13 Terranist wrote:
On August 05 2013 12:47 Headnoob wrote:
No results worth mentioning, never was a person of note.


why do you feel so compelled to post in this thread?



This isn't an Eve fanclub. He doesn't have to make encouraging posts, he just stated his mind.


I wasn't going to butt in about this but

Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 12:47 Headnoob wrote:
No results worth mentioning, never was a person of note.


1. First girl to play in GSTL.
2. Interesting number paradox.
3. You know about her enough to have to post something like that

And anyway if results is all that matters then Stork isn't a person of note in SC2 either

He isn't.
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Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
August 05 2013 05:45 GMT
#100
On August 05 2013 14:39 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 14:30 Rhaegal wrote:
On August 05 2013 14:13 Terranist wrote:
On August 05 2013 12:47 Headnoob wrote:
No results worth mentioning, never was a person of note.


why do you feel so compelled to post in this thread?



This isn't an Eve fanclub. He doesn't have to make encouraging posts, he just stated his mind.


I wasn't going to butt in about this but

Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 12:47 Headnoob wrote:
No results worth mentioning, never was a person of note.


1. First girl to play in GSTL.
2. Interesting number paradox.
3. You know about her enough to have to post something like that

And anyway if results is all that matters then Stork isn't a person of note in SC2 either


Taking a single game off of someone above NA masters level would be a good start

http://www.aligulac.com/players/2020-Eve/results/
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