Eve Retires

On August 01 2013 02:22 johnny123 wrote:
anyone even saw a game from eve? so what is there to be missed

On August 01 2013 02:22 johnny123 wrote:
anyone even saw a game from eve? so what is there to be missed

On August 01 2013 02:01 packrat386 wrote:


SC2 needs more competitive women.

On August 01 2013 02:30 MysteryMeat1 wrote:


well she lost to sniper...

Turning him into the antichrist...

On August 01 2013 02:32 Lonyo wrote:

While I agree with your statement, she was never really competitive. There are plenty of females who are more competitive than she was/is.

There are somehow (given relative population sizes) more transgendered SC2 pros than female pros. Which tells you how bad the female situation is, given how few transgendered people there are in the world compared to the number of females.

On August 01 2013 02:42 ssxsilver wrote:

There was also that GSTL preseason game vs Aphrodite. I remember everyone in the LR thread being rather hyped for this opening match, but Eve denied us a good game by trying to all-in and doing horribly -.-.

Anyhow, I was never a fan of Eve "the player", but good luck to Eve in her future endeavors!

On August 01 2013 02:44 MrRicewife wrote:

How come people want more females? Or care for that matter?

I have been confused for so long as to why people start threads or discuss females in sc2.

It's almost like they make it out to be a bad or a good thing, where personally I think both cases aren't even relevant. Makes me feel like after the "women" talk is over, race will be the next thing "where are all the black casters"? All seems arbitrary to me.

On August 01 2013 04:46 vrok wrote:
Goodbye Eve!

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 01 2013 04:49 Steel wrote:
She could of streamed or something, it would of generated revenue for the team at least on a similar level as the other progamers. I don't even have a clue at how much she was practicing..

GL in the future Eve

On August 01 2013 03:00 Lonyo wrote:

How come people want more Americans? Or care for that matter?

I have been confused for so long as to why people start threads or discuss Americans in sc2.

It's almost like they make it out to be a bad or a good thing, where personally I think both cases aren't even relevant. Makes me feel like after the "nation" talk is over, sex will be the next thing "where are all the women casters"? All seems arbitrary to me.

Not the first time people have talked about a group being underrepresented.

On August 01 2013 04:57 Porishan wrote:

it's funny that both of them have left eSF in the same time :D Now I can't wait for Monster retirement

On August 01 2013 05:21 shin_toss wrote:
</3 .. She will return for WSL don't worry guys!

On August 01 2013 05:24 Dodgin wrote:


Sniper not Monster, yo.

I'm glad that video exists, we must never forget that day.

On August 01 2013 05:02 docvoc wrote:

Eve was training as a real SlayerS player, IIRC, though she never had the results of guys like MMA or Puzzle. She wasn't actually a bad player though, she was high masters I think. Good luck to her in all her future endeavors .

On August 01 2013 02:01 packrat386 wrote:


SC2 needs more competitive women.

On August 01 2013 04:46 vrok wrote:
Goodbye Eve!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E-r_-HVpas

On August 01 2013 07:49 MVega wrote:
She did pretty well in the small female tournaments or whatever that I saw her play in. Good luck in the future to her.

Anyway I totally understand the reason that there aren't more female progamers. They don't take it as seriously as you have to in order to be competitive. Probably because they're a lot smarter than men are in that regard. The chances of having a successful competitive gaming career are about the same as winning one of the smaller lotteries. Really if you want to take that chance, that's your business, but it's never a sound financial strategy. It's very much the dream of young boys, which is probably why most eSports stars are ... young boys.

On August 01 2013 12:03 shin_toss wrote:
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lol. its just that gaming is a male dominated enviroment. and they know that they are lacking in skill to compete.

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On August 01 2013 02:10 a176 wrote:
did she have any actual pro results?

On August 01 2013 12:07 TheRabidDeer wrote:

Not so much skill and more that boys grow up in the environment of competing in games while girls traditionally dont.

On August 01 2013 14:18 F.O.A.D. wrote:
StarCraft is a man's world.

gl in future endeavors.

On August 05 2013 10:25 Plansix wrote:
^ The last couple threads dealing with ladies in the SC2 scene has brought out the sexists in the community. It's been pretty enlightening how far we have to go.

On August 05 2013 10:32 Terranist wrote:


vocal minority.

On August 01 2013 08:16 Valon wrote:
It's sad she is so hard on herself. The couple times she played in GSTL it was clear she cared a lot. Good Luck Eve!

On August 05 2013 10:35 StarStruck wrote:


How about tossgirl losing to Greg? Naturally emotional creatures man (pun intended because there are a lot of examples of the boys not being too thrilled about losing either). You need to have that killer instinct.

On August 05 2013 10:32 Terranist wrote:


vocal minority.

On August 05 2013 10:34 Wombat_NI wrote:

To be fair, how many players play 2 pro games, don't stream or cast and have farewell threads dedicated to them?

Still found some of the comments ridiculous mind.

On August 05 2013 10:43 Terranist wrote:


the community should not be generalized as sexist based on the comments of a select few. eve has received as much positive attention as she has negative attention, but to focus on the latter is destructive.

On August 05 2013 10:45 DeathProfessor wrote:
I am not trying to fan flames but how is SC2 NOT a mans world, not sure why that is so offensive. Its like 99.99% male.

On August 05 2013 10:46 Wombat_NI wrote:

'It's a man's world' kind of infers that it is a natural state of affairs, or is some kind of unchangeable, immutable law of nature. Saying 'it's an activity largely populated by men' is more neutral.

On August 05 2013 10:35 StarStruck wrote:


How about tossgirl losing to Greg? Naturally emotional creatures man (pun intended because there are a lot of examples of the boys not being too thrilled about losing either). You need to have that killer instinct.

On August 05 2013 10:46 Wombat_NI wrote:

'It's a man's world' kind of infers that it is a natural state of affairs, or is some kind of unchangeable, immutable law of nature. Saying 'it's an activity largely populated by men' is more neutral.

On August 05 2013 10:56 Rhaegal wrote:


I always wondered why so many people try to attest social issues to deep, abstract things like society/culture, or the human psyche. Female oppression is soley from one reason-- physical inferiority. Look at the world around you. Strong animals prey on weaker ones. Hell, look at our history. Men have suffered a hell of a lot worse things from other men that women have.

People try to find an explanation for murder, or war, or oppression, anything else, but if you just look at life itself you'll find your answers. We are no more different than lions. We kill, mate, eat, and die. It's how it's been since the dawn of life, and it's how life will continue to be. A few people in developed countries try to find the root of humanities problems and the answers to what they deem as barbaric, while the world around them burns. Life is violent chaos, where the weak die or are manipulated, and the strong live until they meet someone stronger.

A "scholarly" approach will do nothing to change the nature of life.

On August 05 2013 10:56 Rhaegal wrote:


I always wondered why so many people try to attest social issues to deep, abstract things like society/culture, or the human psyche. Female oppression is soley from one reason-- physical inferiority. Look at the world around you. Strong animals prey on weaker ones. Hell, look at our history. Men have suffered a hell of a lot worse things from other men that women have.

People try to find an explanation for murder, or war, or oppression, anything else, but if you just look at life itself you'll find your answers. We are no more different than lions. We kill, mate, eat, and die. It's how it's been since the dawn of life, and it's how life will continue to be. A few people in developed countries try to find the root of humanities problems and the answers to what they deem as barbaric, while the world around them burns. Life is violent chaos, where the weak die or are manipulated, and the strong live until they meet someone stronger.

A "scholarly" approach will do nothing to change the nature of life.

On August 05 2013 10:56 Rhaegal wrote:


I always wondered why so many people try to attest social issues to deep, abstract things like society/culture, or the human psyche. Female oppression is soley from one reason-- physical inferiority. Look at the world around you. Strong animals prey on weaker ones. Hell, look at our history. Men have suffered a hell of a lot worse things from other men that women have.

People try to find an explanation for murder, or war, or oppression, anything else, but if you just look at life itself you'll find your answers. We are no more different than lions. We kill, mate, eat, and die. It's how it's been since the dawn of life, and it's how life will continue to be. A few people in developed countries try to find the root of humanities problems and the answers to what they deem as barbaric, while the world around them burns. Life is violent chaos, where the weak die or are manipulated, and the strong live until they meet someone stronger.

A "scholarly" approach will do nothing to change the nature of life.

On August 05 2013 11:05 Plansix wrote:

"All you people and your skooling and your fancy educations trying to understand the world through your books and the writings of people you never met. I look out my window and see facts. Women be smaller than me, they cry more and they don,t know how to change a tire. That's all the proof I need to know that women don't like to play hard video games."

Ladies who traffic TL, this it not who we are. Don't take him seriously.

On August 05 2013 11:10 lichter wrote:


Internet points with the ladies, nice.

Also I find the "we are no better than animals" argument really ironic. The very sentence and its articulation, logic, and self-awareness certainly isn't something a hippopotamus would say or think.

On August 05 2013 11:18 Rhaegal wrote:



What country are you from?

Would I be able to have this conversation if I didn't live in a country with by far the strongest military in the world? A country built on the back of slaves and oppression? We're "civilized" and have high standards of living because our countries had a savage history and came out on the winning side. Now we live easy lives in peaceful nations, while the losers live in utter hell. Imagine if you were born into a place that hadn't had such fortune, like Africa or the Middle East. We exist because the strong permitted us to do so.

I wonder if the USA or other "first world" countries will be here in 100 years, or if they will be taken over by someone stronger. Where will the world find its scholars then?

On August 05 2013 11:18 Rhaegal wrote:



What country are you from?

Would I be able to have this conversation if I didn't live in a country with by far the strongest military in the world? A country built on the back of slaves and oppression? We're "civilized" and have high standards of living because our countries had a savage history and came out on the winning side. Now we live easy lives in peaceful nations, while the losers live in utter hell. Imagine if you were born into a place that hadn't had such fortune, like Africa or the Middle East. We exist because the strong permitted us to do so.

I wonder if the USA or other "first world" countries will be here in 100 years, or if they will be taken over by someone stronger. Where will the world find its scholars then?

Ladies who traffic TL, this it not who we are. Don't take him seriously.

On August 05 2013 11:29 lichter wrote:
Nevermind, you are pointless to argue with.

ANYWAY

Nobody else saw that Star Haeng episode but me!?

On August 05 2013 11:32 Chocolate wrote:
Aaanyway, back on topic, I don't think anybody should be surprised when a non-objectively valued recruit doesn't perform too well ingame.


M'lady, please let the white knight handle this. *Tips fedora*

On August 05 2013 12:04 Plansix wrote:

No doubt that, Eve never really panned out, but I am under qualified to say if she ever had potential.

And no problem, my white knight status is well known. Plus I had to keep it friendly, I would have been slapped down if I posted what my girlfriend was telling me to.

On August 05 2013 12:07 Wombat_NI wrote:

I don't view you as a white knight, it's a ridiculous term to mis/overuse. I'm curious to see what your girlfriend was telling you to say, PM me if my young ears can deal

Also thanks to whoever posted the video of her vs Aphrodite, the subs were nice too! Are there other Korean broadcasts which are subbed into English?

On August 05 2013 12:47 Headnoob wrote:
No results worth mentioning, never was a person of note.

On August 05 2013 14:13 Terranist wrote:


why do you feel so compelled to post in this thread?

On August 05 2013 14:30 Rhaegal wrote:



This isn't an Eve fanclub. He doesn't have to make encouraging posts, he just stated his mind.

On August 05 2013 12:47 Headnoob wrote:
No results worth mentioning, never was a person of note.

On August 05 2013 14:39 lichter wrote:


I wasn't going to butt in about this but



1. First girl to play in GSTL.
2. Interesting number paradox.
3. You know about her enough to have to post something like that

And anyway if results is all that matters then Stork isn't a person of note in SC2 either

On August 05 2013 14:39 lichter wrote:


I wasn't going to butt in about this but



1. First girl to play in GSTL.
2. Interesting number paradox.
3. You know about her enough to have to post something like that

And anyway if results is all that matters then Stork isn't a person of note in SC2 either

On August 05 2013 14:45 Rhaegal wrote:


Taking a single game off of someone above NA masters level would be a good start

http://www.aligulac.com/players/2020-Eve/results/

On August 05 2013 14:58 lichter wrote:
But she was notable if only for her appearance in GSTL.

On August 05 2013 14:30 Rhaegal wrote:



This isn't an Eve fanclub. He doesn't have to make encouraging posts, he just stated his mind.

On August 05 2013 15:04 Wombat_NI wrote:

While true, I do enjoy that you come in and post bollocks and don't reply to any of the posts that addressed your nonsense. Top notch swerving.