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On August 09 2013 18:25 Odenetheus wrote:
I posted that because there was a discussion as recently as on the previous page regarding the neurology of humans, and I also do find it annoying when people claim that we do not know whether or not it is genetical.
My apologies if it was entirely pointless.
It is because that's not the topic. Topic is : "A SC2 Tournaments". Wtf with transexuality ? Stop it please.
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Unsurprisingly one-sided, that's what happens when a gold leaguer faces a master league player I guess
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Didn't manage to start the afreeca thing at all because it's in korean, or I did, but it gives me some stupid thing in Korean which I cannot even translate with google translate, and when I click the only button it closes the window.
Great way to draw in international viewers WSL!
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On August 09 2013 18:12 Odenetheus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 03:06 iMAniaC wrote:
To be honest, I don't think any of us know to what extent Scarlett is different from IdrA or HuK. She's obviously (at least) neurologically different, and to the best of my knowledge, we can't really know if that neurological difference stems from a difference in her DNA or not. It's obviously a tautology; if she were just like IdrA or HuK, then we wouldn't be having this conversation. However, this is not the topic of this thread (and I'm sure the moderators are growing really tired of this recurring discussion in so many threads), so I'm not going to say anything else about it. I just wanted to point out that we shouldn't assume to know too much about Scarlett's DNA, hormones or neurological setup (as a lot of people seem to think they know), nor do I think that the "tech specs" of humans are the end-all be-all of this discussion. But as I said, that's another discussion altogether.
On topic: Does anyone know where to find brackets or indeed any info at all about this tournament? I tried to search, but I don't know Korean, so it didn't turn up too much... Yes, yes we do know that transsexuality is, at least partly, caused by an androgen receptor difference, thus it is genetical. Whether or not this causes her brain to develop differently than that of the average male, I am unsure, but since testosteron plays an important part during the development of males, I would assume so, and thus my bet would be that it is closer to a female brain than a male one (of course depending on just how high levels of testosterone she would have had during her childhood). Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18962445
I guess I stand corrected 
I was going to write a lengthier response about my original post being sloppily worded, but then I noticed that I said I wasn't going to say anything else about it, so I'll leave it at that.
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I took a proper look at the brackets now and there's some kind of wonky seeding into Ro8. However, I don't know any Korean. Someone care to give me the gist of it?
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On August 10 2013 14:11 iMAniaC wrote:
I took a proper look at the brackets now and there's some kind of wonky seeding into Ro8. However, I don't know any Korean. Someone care to give me the gist of it? Without translating, just from looking at the numbers (1,2) and arrows, I think it means in the future iterations of the league the top two finishers from previous seasons will be seeded in the second round.
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not to sound cruel or judgmental, but I stand by the fact that "transgender" people should not be competeing "sports" wise against non-transgender (of the opposite gender)
So what I am saying is, transgender women are not women, they are built differently, chemically different, larger hands to access more of the keyboard. ( there is no argument here, its a proven fact). But to ask actually women born a woman to play (for all intensive purposes) a man in a sports setting is wrong and should not be allowed.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Female_SC2_Scene
Look at the "notable female players" the first one is a transgender (male based on chromosomes) which should be a slap in the face to true women gamers of the same caliber. Start distinguishing between women/men in a tournament setting (for women) and you will get a true result as to who the best female gamer is.
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On August 10 2013 18:57 figq wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 14:11 iMAniaC wrote:
I took a proper look at the brackets now and there's some kind of wonky seeding into Ro8. However, I don't know any Korean. Someone care to give me the gist of it? Without translating, just from looking at the numbers (1,2) and arrows, I think it means in the future iterations of the league the top two finishers from previous seasons will be seeded in the second round.
Perhaps. But it wouldn't make much sense, seeing that the bracket in the OP is for the first season, and there are no previous winners... Perhaps the losers of the first get put in a group stage, from which the best 2 out of 5 get seeded back in?
There's a LP page up now:  WSL. Does anyone know any hangul? I attempted to transcribe the hangul nicks, but I'm not 100% confident in my ability to do that and I realize that I wouldn't get it if some of them were hangulifications of English words...
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아이멤 = IM, (or possible "I am")
디바 = Diva
어디가 = "Where are you going"
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On August 11 2013 01:20 FuRong wrote:
아이멤 = IM, (or possible "I am")
디바 = Diva
어디가 = "Where are you going"
i second this
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is Gayoung winning everything like always?
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On August 11 2013 01:26 Chexx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 01:20 FuRong wrote:
아이멤 = IM, (or possible "I am")
디바 = Diva
어디가 = "Where are you going" i second this
Thanks, both of you! 어디가 isn't some pronounciation of "Where are you going", though? It only means that in Korean, right? I think it would be reasonable to transcribe the handles, but not translate them. For instance, it would be silly for English casters to talk about the Finnish player Face (Naama) or French casters talking about the German Player LE (Le Petit - The Little One).
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On August 10 2013 19:22 Fusa wrote:not to sound cruel or judgmental, but I stand by the fact that "transgender" people should not be competeing "sports" wise against non-transgender (of the opposite gender) So what I am saying is, transgender women are not women, they are built differently, chemically different, larger hands to access more of the keyboard. ( there is no argument here, its a proven fact). But to ask actually women born a woman to play (for all intensive purposes) a man in a sports setting is wrong and should not be allowed. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Female_SC2_SceneLook at the "notable female players" the first one is a transgender (male based on chromosomes) which should be a slap in the face to true women gamers of the same caliber. Start distinguishing between women/men in a tournament setting (for women) and you will get a true result as to who the best female gamer is.
Joe Rogan is that you..?
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On July 31 2013 20:00 Dodgin wrote:
Eve retired too soon.
well are aphrodite etc playing in it ? eve never came ahead of them so i think for her personal life perhaps its best when she find good job ... retire is not always a bad thing when it bring you further in life
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Where can i watch the VOD's from august 9? also when will the stream be live today?
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On August 10 2013 19:22 Fusa wrote:not to sound cruel or judgmental, but I stand by the fact that "transgender" people should not be competeing "sports" wise against non-transgender (of the opposite gender) So what I am saying is, transgender women are not women, they are built differently, chemically different, larger hands to access more of the keyboard. ( there is no argument here, its a proven fact). But to ask actually women born a woman to play (for all intensive purposes) a man in a sports setting is wrong and should not be allowed. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Female_SC2_SceneLook at the "notable female players" the first one is a transgender (male based on chromosomes) which should be a slap in the face to true women gamers of the same caliber. Start distinguishing between women/men in a tournament setting (for women) and you will get a true result as to who the best female gamer is.
I think your opinion would be valid if this was a physical sport since there are definitely clear evidence of the difference between the two sexes and the peak of their performance in that area, but there is absolutely no evidence to show that women can't compete with men in a cerebral activity such as SC2.
Until such a time as a study comes up that proves that women and male brains function differently as to the point that one is superior to the other in certain fields (with SC2 being one of them) then I'd agree that having a transgender in a female/male sport would be bad (this as far as I know does happen in real sports). But this isn't the case right now.
This discussion will also probably pop up whenever an all female league is formed, though the purpose of the tournament/league should always be clear, to encourage more women to get into video games, not to give them a shot to earn easy money, once women have leveled the playing field with men the female only leagues should be disbanded or unified with other competitions.
So far this seems league seems like a good idea to me, I hope some new talent is discovered and that the scene could maybe grow even more.
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Its too bad tonights broadcast will be at the same time as WCS, bad schedule on WSL's part. 디바 fighting ~_~
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