On July 29 2013 06:32 Hider wrote: I don't neither Thorin nor Artosis really understands the issue with the Sc2 economy. The problem is that with the current economy of Sc2, the army value/active bases ratio is too high which makes it impossible to make defensive oriented units such as tanks/swarm hosts too good as turtling is too easy with them.
Whether you have 50-70 workers is in it self irrelevant. What matters is how thinly your spread out and a weaker economy will force players to spread them selves out over more bases.
The thing I'm concerned about is the lack of a natural counter to turtling kind of play at a high, strategic/economic level when factions have been abstracted away. It's at that level where the core issue with the deathball style is, and it's there where it should be fixed. Faction/unit level counters will ultimately prove either futile or unnatural and awkward.
On July 29 2013 06:16 Nerchio wrote: I heard thorin more than artosis
Thorin usually has long-winded questions, but they usually get very, very good answers due to the details he provides.
Yeah I agree, I really liked the answers he got out of artosis, but he did come off to me as a bit pretentious here and there.
Heh listen to any thorin interview or his infamous slasher rant on that show they were on together. He's as pretentious and arrogant about the quality of his own work as they come.
On July 29 2013 12:31 Hok wrote: Artosis mentions a guy named "UUV""? anyone have reference pages for this guy? I don't know how to spell his name and I'm rather new.
On July 29 2013 12:31 Hok wrote: Artosis mentions a guy named "UUV""? anyone have reference pages for this guy? I don't know how to spell his name and I'm rather new.
Probably IloveOov.
Oov was largely credited for the gameplay shift from micro-based builds to a largely macro-oriented play with his greedy builds, and mass production facilities that is so common today. Before then it was common for a lot of 1 base play to occur.
He also innovated a whole lot of Terran builds as well as gameplay. With his guidance, Fantasy became a top-tier Terran in BW.