also stop / start youtube tabbing out ingame even tho you have it bound on key. also, really need to mute that autohotkey program for some reason, but definitely not because it gives audiowarnings about enemy?
Maphack and the problems with protection from it - Page 11
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Socke
Germany451 Posts
also stop / start youtube tabbing out ingame even tho you have it bound on key. also, really need to mute that autohotkey program for some reason, but definitely not because it gives audiowarnings about enemy? | ||
NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On July 30 2013 20:11 SpecialistSc wrote: even sadder is that's just not true that's like saying if you take a practice test with your answer key and get 100, you've gotten better as compared to taking the test without the answer key. ability to look at the answer then solving will get players to be proficient at cheating, not legit playing Naama is right. At least if the hacker is not complete dumb. You can look at timings and improve. When I am ingame and I have a supplylead and/or advantage, often times I don't realize. With a hack, you would realize, you would know your timings in and out and you would also learn about their builds and timings. As said, its really if you are into the game, hack would provide information that help to improve the understanding part of the game, not in the mechanics. Still its cheating and shouldn't be accepted. ImbaToSs said he uses this program to automatically hotkey his buildings/units, that in itself is bannable offense and should be followed up by a ban from tournaments and Teamliquid. If he does also use the other features and/or he really maphacks I cannot comment on, personally from the evidence, it would lead me to believe yes, he does. | ||
grs
Germany2339 Posts
On July 30 2013 20:08 2on2.ImBaTosS wrote: Its just a programm to hotkey buildings or like dani said ,for music etc , just to do everything on ur pc with hotkeys , and every programm that u habe open appears in the sound options no matter if it makes a sound or not No, it is not all programs. Some more examples: ![]() Calibre E-Book Management, Notepad and VLC don't show up for me. | ||
tarrantius
Germany25 Posts
On July 30 2013 20:16 grs wrote: No, it is not all programs. Some more examples: ![]() Calibre E-Book Management, Notepad and VLC don't show up for me. Cause they are listed under a different Audio Device? Did u check it ? | ||
BrowbeatSC2
Germany4 Posts
On July 28 2013 22:34 sLideSC2 wrote: Blizzard needs to either open up more data or develop a punkbuster-esque software for these things to stop happening. Doesn't Blizzard already use "Warden"? Also, the problem is, how to detect it. As long as StarCraft2 is running on your computer you can just freely manipulate the (to be) executed commands and the data in the RAM. You can write software, that monitors accesses to certain areas of the RAM i.e. but it's still possible to bypass. It's just "relatively" easy to manipulate software on a local system and that's why even punkbuster isn't 100% safe. You can use checksums to verify the integrity of certain files/programs, but then again... It's running on your system... you can just let the CPU jump over the codeblocks which are comparing the checksums, or manipulate the returned values themselves. | ||
grs
Germany2339 Posts
On July 30 2013 20:17 tarrantius wrote: Cause they are listed under a different Audio Device? Did u check it ? Yes, I did. My audio devices: ![]() Show under other device (none): ![]() | ||
tarrantius
Germany25 Posts
Yes, I did. So you proofed the normal Autohotkey doesnt show up there. Imbatoss next round of excuses , its your turn :D | ||
Drake
Germany6146 Posts
so for me JAEH it can be he is not guilty, but the protection of the whole community is more importent, then the career of a single one ... jaeh we can catch a few who was just lucky, but to improve the game for ten thousends, bans should be thrown away like cookies !!!!!!!!!! for bm, for harrassment, for being a douchebag for suspection of cheat, hack, streamchat whatever ... | ||
Jogginghose
Germany9 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On July 30 2013 20:16 NarutO wrote: Naama is right. At least if the hacker is not complete dumb. You can look at timings and improve. When I am ingame and I have a supplylead and/or advantage, often times I don't realize. With a hack, you would realize, you would know your timings in and out and you would also learn about their builds and timings. As said, its really if you are into the game, hack would provide information that help to improve the understanding part of the game, not in the mechanics. Still its cheating and shouldn't be accepted. ImbaToSs said he uses this program to automatically hotkey his buildings/units, that in itself is bannable offense and should be followed up by a ban from tournaments and Teamliquid. If he does also use the other features and/or he really maphacks I cannot comment on, personally from the evidence, it would lead me to believe yes, he does. i remember in sc1 times, playing with vision from enemy on at custom games for exactly that purpose, jaeh ... but still its no excuse ... On July 28 2013 22:47 krazykoz wrote: IMO, the best way to combat this in online competitions is to have blizzard/tournament organizers create a simple program that players must run on their machine when they choose to compete in those tournaments and it would allow an admin to view any active programs. Given it is the player's choice to enter those tournaments, it wouldn't be a privacy situation as those players could choose to not enter the tournaments. By limiting it to the tournament scene, there would not be as much incentive for hackers to find a way around that program as most hacks are developed for general use on ladder where they reach a broader audience. i think EA wanted to do something like that, they stopped after a big shitstorm of spy on user computer etc ... | ||
NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On July 30 2013 20:29 Drake wrote: i remember in sc1 times, playing with vision from enemy on at custom games for exactly that purpose, jaeh ... but still its no excuse ... I didn't say it was. | ||
Drake
Germany6146 Posts
nono thats not what i mean i mean in their minds it is the excuse and they think "oh even without cheat i am better but i do it to learn" etc ... their minds are just broken ^_^ On July 28 2013 23:09 synd wrote: I don't know dude. To me it seems like the reporting system is just a visual feature but practically it doesn't do anything. I judge by the amount of people that were reported by at least 20+ people and they still maphack/cheat freely even now. because this "report" system isnt working ... if you rape a noob it happens OFTEN enough hes like "oh you cheat i going report you, you will get banned motherf...." etc ... so there are for sure thousends of people reported by alot noobs who did never cheat or even looked like, just some noobs cant lose. so its super hard find the true reports in all of the shitty reports | ||
RayBeans
Germany331 Posts
(main) organizer of the BCON Clash (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/The_BCON_Clash) here, which Imbatoss won and took 200€ prizemoney. Can some of you please check the replays and tell me/us if there is any evidence. Thanks in advance ![]() Link to the whole cup replaypack: http://binarybeast.com/rep/82894/xHotS1307041.zip link to the replays of the finals: http://binarybeast.com/rep/82894/xHotS130704/winners_bracket/round_3/ExZotiK%20(Zurich)%20vs%20ImBaTosS%20(Munich).zip link to the grid: http://binarybeast.com/xHotS1307041 | ||
Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On July 29 2013 01:33 2on2.ImBaTosS wrote: [blablabla] ... and also i will stream the next days and weeks , so there wont be any kind of doubt. for me thats the sollution for nearly everything, i remember the mistrzzz the polish guy in sc1 everyone thought he maphack ? then he streamed every of his games too. if someone is suspected cheating and has the connection, if you stream all your tournament/league etc games, i think the people will stop mention it. but if you only stream ladder and not the tournament/leagues then its selfgoal ![]() On July 29 2013 12:58 TheSwamp wrote: Every time someone tries to defend themselves from MH accusations this is what it looks like. They just write one long paragraph of terrible English. It's almost as if people who MH are stupid. so you call him "stupid" because he has bad english ? or even just "write" bad english ? i write terrible english and i had an A in school ... its just you never use it in germany cause everything is on german so you just get used to shitty english like this ... please if hes cheater or not, dont just call him stupid because he has not the best english lol ,,, perhaps frensh was his 2nd language | ||
TT1
Canada9987 Posts
On July 29 2013 01:33 2on2.ImBaTosS wrote: [blablabla] ... and also i will stream the next days and weeks , so there wont be any kind of doubt. make sure to have a webcam on ur monitor, if u have a 2nd monitor u can run a maphack on it so it wouldnt prove anything | ||
TT1
Canada9987 Posts
So many hackers in europe atm, intruder, imbatoss alastor, juicypeach etc.. AlaStOr @AlaStOrsC 23m @TargA01 here my reps vs this fatboy at wcs http://drop.sc/352241 http://drop.sc/352239 http://drop.sc/352242 , stop eat hamburguers plz LOL y so much drama all of a sudden | ||
Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On July 30 2013 19:07 Jogginghose wrote: hey guys. i did some more research and i am really glad imbatoss streamed some games for us ![]() I watched a VOD of imbatoss and found a little programm called "Autohotkey" in his soundsettings. proove: http://imgur.com/93COMqK so further i was researching on maphack in general, since it seems the EU-Ladder is full of them atm. So **MOD EDIT PLEASE DO NOT LINK TO HACKS AS TO FASCILITATE THEIR USE** here is the hack he is probably using. Thats how the interface looks like: http://imgur.com/wel7C. The icon looks pretty familiar right ?! He also muted the programm since it gives you audiowarnings. According to the website all overlays are seperate and can easily positioned on a second monitor. So the guy streamin prooves nothing. He even prooved himself hacking ![]() so i have to read 9 pages to find the ultimate proov ? xD | ||
grs
Germany2339 Posts
On July 30 2013 20:55 Drake wrote: so i have to read 9 pages to find the ultimate proov ? xD Yes, you can stop quoting random posts from pages 1-8 now ![]() | ||
Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
On July 30 2013 20:53 TT1 wrote: Kristoffer M @TargA01 1h So many hackers in europe atm, intruder, imbatoss alastor, juicypeach etc.. AlaStOr @AlaStOrsC 23m @TargA01 here my reps vs this fatboy at wcs http://drop.sc/352241 http://drop.sc/352239 http://drop.sc/352242 , stop eat hamburguers plz LOL y so much drama all of a sudden oh well that escalated quickly Edit: Also I like Targa, he is a cool dude, so when he calls someone a hacker I tend to believe him. Now that's because I assume he checked everything and is 100% sure/has prove, because he knows how such rumors could affect a player. If it now proves to be wrong I am disappointed. | ||
NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On July 30 2013 20:53 TT1 wrote: Kristoffer M @TargA01 1h So many hackers in europe atm, intruder, imbatoss alastor, juicypeach etc.. AlaStOr @AlaStOrsC 23m @TargA01 here my reps vs this fatboy at wcs http://drop.sc/352241 http://drop.sc/352239 http://drop.sc/352242 , stop eat hamburguers plz LOL y so much drama all of a sudden In the past we already did doubt alastor was legit. His scouting patterns and reasoning behind 15 hatch or pool first are completely off the chart, at least in the past. I still remember 'testing' him with other Terrans and he really never got caught offguard vs a double rax, with or without scouting. | ||
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