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SchfiftyFive
Profile Joined September 2010
United States131 Posts
July 24 2013 09:30 GMT
#81
On the weight thing...I was overweight my entire childhood. 5' 10" 200lbs+ eating junk and barely any veggies any pasta is my favorite. When I turned 19 it just all went away for no reason at all. My eating habits haven't changed since I could eat solid foods. Now I'm 27 staying around 160 this whole time give or take 10 lbs. Tell me there isn't genetics involved lol. I do play drums alot but I still eat heavy carbs and have never dieted in my life. I was still overweight when I started playing drums so it seems silly that dropping weight like that was from drumming when I had been playing for years before. Just my 2 cents of personal experience on the subject. Eveverytime I have ever watched desRow's stream I have not been disappointed, he also is the only featured streamer ever to actually respond to my question in chat. I've paid for lessons from streamers and they don't even give me the time of day in their chat. That goes along way for me. Gl desRow and keep streaming, I'll be watching!
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ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
July 24 2013 10:22 GMT
#82
On July 24 2013 09:39 desRow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 08:57 KaienFEMC wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:13 krooked wrote:
I laughed at the weight joke.

To the people arguing about weight, genetics does not play a role except in extremely rare cases where a gland isnt working properly. And even for them, thermodynamics still apply. Diet is everything, physical activity kind of matters but all put within the context of ones diet. To become of desrows size one must be in a big caloric surplus over several years. Of course the reasons for this are many and in the end its hard to blame someone for becoming fat, but it is entirely up to themselves to fix the issue.

Surprised by the move, I actually dont believe desrow has anything better going for him. I believe that he had issues with being on the team, to be honest.


No... Energy conversion in biological system is way more complex than you think.
Not everyone who consumes a bottle of coke will gain 150 calories.
Not everyone who runs a mile will lose 300 calories.
There are people who easily gain weight due to their genetic make up, this is a simple fact.
They have to work harder to lose weight. Yes, life is unfair and it is true that it is up to them to put in the extra effort to stay fit in the modern society of developed world. However, saying genetics only apply in extremely rare cases is entirely wrong.


I have hypothyroid but its mostly lack of will but I've been trying for almost 2 years now. I'm pretty open about it on stream and since this thread took that direction I guess I can elaborate on my journey so far.


October to December 2011 In Canada
490 to 460
December to June 2012 In Korea
460 to 470
June to September 2012 In Canada
470 to 400
September to December 2012 In Poland
400 to 450
December to February 2013 In Canada
450 to 405
February to now
Stagnating around 400

My lack of progress has been due to stress and lack of discipline but I'm dedicated more than ever to change.


Keep up the good work. You can do it!
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shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
July 24 2013 10:27 GMT
#83
Well he is a pretty nice person but while its true on the other hand he is the results haven't really been there...
GL to him i guess,but it will be hard to find a better team than FXO...
RIP MKP
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
July 24 2013 10:33 GMT
#84
Yeah he's stream is dope very entertaining
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
July 24 2013 10:53 GMT
#85
On July 24 2013 17:26 bGr.MetHiX wrote:
if u are looking for results, desrow is not ur guy.

if u are looking for exposure i guess he is.


says the guy who streams naked ^^
I´m a real person. Beep beep.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
July 24 2013 11:00 GMT
#86
gl FXO
keep it deep! @zulison
bK-
Profile Joined June 2012
United States326 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 11:19:33
July 24 2013 11:16 GMT
#87
On July 24 2013 19:22 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 09:39 desRow wrote:
On July 24 2013 08:57 KaienFEMC wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:13 krooked wrote:
I laughed at the weight joke.

To the people arguing about weight, genetics does not play a role except in extremely rare cases where a gland isnt working properly. And even for them, thermodynamics still apply. Diet is everything, physical activity kind of matters but all put within the context of ones diet. To become of desrows size one must be in a big caloric surplus over several years. Of course the reasons for this are many and in the end its hard to blame someone for becoming fat, but it is entirely up to themselves to fix the issue.

Surprised by the move, I actually dont believe desrow has anything better going for him. I believe that he had issues with being on the team, to be honest.


No... Energy conversion in biological system is way more complex than you think.
Not everyone who consumes a bottle of coke will gain 150 calories.
Not everyone who runs a mile will lose 300 calories.
There are people who easily gain weight due to their genetic make up, this is a simple fact.
They have to work harder to lose weight. Yes, life is unfair and it is true that it is up to them to put in the extra effort to stay fit in the modern society of developed world. However, saying genetics only apply in extremely rare cases is entirely wrong.


I have hypothyroid but its mostly lack of will but I've been trying for almost 2 years now. I'm pretty open about it on stream and since this thread took that direction I guess I can elaborate on my journey so far. Calling people names and looking down on others etc.. etc..


October to December 2011 In Canada
490 to 460
December to June 2012 In Korea
460 to 470
June to September 2012 In Canada
470 to 400
September to December 2012 In Poland
400 to 450
December to February 2013 In Canada
450 to 405
February to now
Stagnating around 400

My lack of progress has been due to stress and lack of discipline but I'm dedicated more than ever to change.


Keep up the good work. You can do it!

Now only if he put half as much effort into fixing his attitude as he does with his weight problems he would become a great sc2 personality. Unfortunately he still seems to have a, well lack of a better term childish personality. Such as calling people names and looking down on others etc.. etc..
We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
July 24 2013 11:59 GMT
#88
On July 24 2013 03:48 rEalGuapo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 03:44 TRaFFiC wrote:
On July 24 2013 03:37 rEalGuapo wrote:
On July 24 2013 03:32 TRaFFiC wrote:
Holy shit, so many a-holes in this community.

I look as anorexic as an African villager and I eat all the garbage I want. It's genetics folks.

This is a damn shame. If aspiring top NA gms like Desrow who are constantly improving can't keep a team, it says something. My guess is it was probably contract related. They probably wanted to bump down his salary.

Best of luck finding a new team man.


You know that that is actually only true for less than one in 10.000.000 people? Most like you have no idea how many calories you consume and burn. Genetics in almost all cases do not play a significant role at all in your body weight.

More probable is this

So according to you only 1 in 10 million people affected by genetics? Cool stats man. Must be some new ground breaking study. Mind sharing the link to that?

Fact of the matter is, most of the people throwing out the insults have no idea what it is like to seriously commit yourself to diet and exercise while being over weight. Committing yourself to the gym is easy. I bet not one of these naysayers have managed to follow a consistent diet for 3 months, never mind a life time. It's one of the hardest things you can be challenged with in life.




Well than the world would be full of fat fucks. . . Ok, but even more so.
I am not saying that people are not affected by genetics you ignorant piece of s.... I am saying that diet makes like 80% of your body comp, exercise 19.5% and then 0.5% are genetics for almost all of us. In terms of relative weight.
I am sorry I did not spell it out to the last detail for you, I should have known you don't understand it otherwise... my bad!


Oh and fyi to not look like desrow you do not have to commit hardcore to a strict diet for the rest of your life, eating somewhat healthy in reasonable amounts and spending a half hour of your waking time doing some form of physical activity is way more than enough for that. But go ahead and make excuses for others for no reason at all.

User was temp banned for this post.


Spreading false information based on no research or prior knowledge...
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
July 24 2013 12:18 GMT
#89
Desrow a bit of advice on the weight thing, you need to make regular exercise. Commit to the gym like 3 days per week, 1 ou 2 hours, plus a better diet and lots of water.. I bet you in a few months you will loose so much and feel so much better that you will never stop!

Go for it.. don't give up!

It's hard but it pays off
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Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
July 24 2013 12:27 GMT
#90
On July 24 2013 18:30 SchfiftyFive wrote:
I do play drums alot but I still eat heavy carbs and have never dieted in my life.


Drumming is extremely good if you want to lose weight, especially stuff like energic rock, or even better, heavy/extreme metal (because double bass drumming is physical as fuck)
Damn, I'm 136.7 lb, each time I pick up my sticks and practice for 1 to 3 hours (mostly extreme metal), I feel I've lost 10 lb of sweat after each session haha.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 24 2013 12:42 GMT
#91
On July 24 2013 09:39 desRow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 08:57 KaienFEMC wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:13 krooked wrote:
I laughed at the weight joke.

To the people arguing about weight, genetics does not play a role except in extremely rare cases where a gland isnt working properly. And even for them, thermodynamics still apply. Diet is everything, physical activity kind of matters but all put within the context of ones diet. To become of desrows size one must be in a big caloric surplus over several years. Of course the reasons for this are many and in the end its hard to blame someone for becoming fat, but it is entirely up to themselves to fix the issue.

Surprised by the move, I actually dont believe desrow has anything better going for him. I believe that he had issues with being on the team, to be honest.


No... Energy conversion in biological system is way more complex than you think.
Not everyone who consumes a bottle of coke will gain 150 calories.
Not everyone who runs a mile will lose 300 calories.
There are people who easily gain weight due to their genetic make up, this is a simple fact.
They have to work harder to lose weight. Yes, life is unfair and it is true that it is up to them to put in the extra effort to stay fit in the modern society of developed world. However, saying genetics only apply in extremely rare cases is entirely wrong.


I have hypothyroid but its mostly lack of will but I've been trying for almost 2 years now. I'm pretty open about it on stream and since this thread took that direction I guess I can elaborate on my journey so far.


October to December 2011 In Canada
490 to 460
December to June 2012 In Korea
460 to 470
June to September 2012 In Canada
470 to 400
September to December 2012 In Poland
400 to 450
December to February 2013 In Canada
450 to 405
February to now
Stagnating around 400

My lack of progress has been due to stress and lack of discipline but I'm dedicated more than ever to change.

That's pretty impressive! Hope things work out well for you desRow! Best of luck.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
SCguineapig
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Netherlands289 Posts
July 24 2013 12:46 GMT
#92
i want to apologize for my earlier post where i stated that he was showing no results in terms of weight loss. turns out he has. gl to desrow and may you find a new team!
broodwar wasn't perfect
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
July 24 2013 13:00 GMT
#93
On July 24 2013 08:57 KaienFEMC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 06:13 krooked wrote:
I laughed at the weight joke.

To the people arguing about weight, genetics does not play a role except in extremely rare cases where a gland isnt working properly. And even for them, thermodynamics still apply. Diet is everything, physical activity kind of matters but all put within the context of ones diet. To become of desrows size one must be in a big caloric surplus over several years. Of course the reasons for this are many and in the end its hard to blame someone for becoming fat, but it is entirely up to themselves to fix the issue.

Surprised by the move, I actually dont believe desrow has anything better going for him. I believe that he had issues with being on the team, to be honest.


No... Energy conversion in biological system is way more complex than you think.
Not everyone who consumes a bottle of coke will gain 150 calories.
Not everyone who runs a mile will lose 300 calories.
There are people who easily gain weight due to their genetic make up, this is a simple fact.
They have to work harder to lose weight. Yes, life is unfair and it is true that it is up to them to put in the extra effort to stay fit in the modern society of developed world. However, saying genetics only apply in extremely rare cases is entirely wrong.


stop feeding the trolls, let him spread all the misinformation he wants

Not like any sensible person would take dieting advice from a gaming forum.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
July 24 2013 13:05 GMT
#94
On July 24 2013 02:48 Eggi wrote:
well technically they do need to buy him two tickets... roundtrip=2 tickets, but obviously it was meant in a slanderous way.
weight jokes are 7th grade, get some new material.

gl to desrow, hes really come far from 2-3 years ago, great stream+person.


I havent watched desrow for like a year, what has he done the last year?
He has been High master/mid-GM for 2 years? Is he a regular high GM now?
Has he participated, won any tourneys? Dailys atleast?
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
July 24 2013 13:19 GMT
#95
On July 24 2013 04:23 grs wrote:
My bet is on mYinsanity.

Not a bad idea...Stardust as practice partner would be awesome
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
July 24 2013 13:34 GMT
#96
I think either being a sc2 pro or losing that kind of weight is a huge fulltime commitment mentally and physically. The best thing would be to take a break from Sc2 and really focus on getting healthy and changing your lifestyle. Then once you are in a better state of mind and healthier decide to go back into Sc2. Sacrificing your health to try to live a very stressful life as an aspiring NA progamer is a bad decision. It will be even harder to get healthy as you get older, and your life will become even more complicated so the time is now!
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
July 24 2013 13:40 GMT
#97
I have no idea who would pick him up. I would have imagined FXO would have been a good place to be, maybe they are going to shut down the NA branch and Desrow is jumping ship early to get a head start on the new team hunt. He is a good player, but not a championship level player, and not a top 5 foreigner. I do like his stream.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
July 24 2013 13:43 GMT
#98
On July 24 2013 21:18 shell wrote:
Desrow a bit of advice on the weight thing, you need to make regular exercise. Commit to the gym like 3 days per week, 1 ou 2 hours, plus a better diet and lots of water.. I bet you in a few months you will loose so much and feel so much better that you will never stop!

Go for it.. don't give up!

It's hard but it pays off

and eat carrots
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
July 24 2013 13:43 GMT
#99
On July 24 2013 22:34 Irre wrote:
I think either being a sc2 pro or losing that kind of weight is a huge fulltime commitment mentally and physically. The best thing would be to take a break from Sc2 and really focus on getting healthy and changing your lifestyle. Then once you are in a better state of mind and healthier decide to go back into Sc2. Sacrificing your health to try to live a very stressful life as an aspiring NA progamer is a bad decision. It will be even harder to get healthy as you get older, and your life will become even more complicated so the time is now!

Who the hell can do that?
Everyone els in life need to work and make money just to have food and a place to live...
If your fat you need to work twice as hard, you still need to work for money, and you must work to lose weight.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
July 24 2013 14:46 GMT
#100
Best of luck to Desrow with his next move.

Guy's not the most naturally talented of players around, but he has a pretty good attitude towards working for his goals, and puts up with an inordinate amount of insults on any thread where his name crops up. Also pretty good at interacting with his fans.

Tbh, like Destiny before him it seems he might suit being an independent player and focusing on streaming for his fans, unless his level jumps that little bit up where he can legitimately be a threat at lans.
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