EPTSource :
Desrow left FXO after 7 months of being with the squad.
This link is all info for now. Waiting for official response from FXO.
FXO and desRow part ways
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followZeRoX
Serbia1449 Posts
Source : Desrow left FXO after 7 months of being with the squad. This link is all info for now. Waiting for official response from FXO. | ||
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
i havent heard anything from him in along time. gl | ||
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KarlKaliente
United States434 Posts
User was warned for this post User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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NoMicroWin
United States688 Posts
On July 24 2013 01:56 KarlKaliente wrote: FXO was sick of buying two plane tickets to send him anywhere He left on his own accord. Insensitive asshole. | ||
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SilverStar
Sweden18511 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 24 2013 01:56 KarlKaliente wrote: FXO was sick of buying two plane tickets to send him anywhere Are you kidding me? Not only are you are jerk, but you're lazy with your insults. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8483 Posts
All the best to him! | ||
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Vertigro
United Kingdom261 Posts
On July 24 2013 01:56 KarlKaliente wrote: FXO was sick of buying two plane tickets to send him anywhere User was warned for this post User was temp banned for this post. christ.. i really shouldn't have laughed at that >< | ||
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Clare4
Austria72 Posts
On July 24 2013 02:02 Vertigro wrote: christ.. i really shouldn't have laughed at that >< same goes for me  | ||
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strength
United States493 Posts
On July 24 2013 01:56 KarlKaliente wrote: FXO was sick of buying two plane tickets to send him anywhere User was warned for this post User was temp banned for this post. That was funny. People can't take a joke in the SC2 scene. | ||
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followZeRoX
Serbia1449 Posts
On July 24 2013 01:59 SilverStar wrote: Can you change the link to the non-mobile one? thanks Done | ||
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
I never hear about this guy, what can he offer teams? My impression is he's hard to live with and doesn't get results. | ||
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Eventine
United States307 Posts
On July 24 2013 02:08 strength wrote: That was funny. People can't take a joke in the SC2 scene. Nah, they can take a joke. It just has to be vanilla. People are hypersensitive in the Sc2 scene. | ||
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dogmode
Philippines491 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44147 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
In any event, good luck to both parties! | ||
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Mouzone
3937 Posts
On July 24 2013 02:34 IPA wrote: Honest question -- what "other options" is Desrow expecting without a single result? Felt like he was lucky to be on FXO. In any event, good luck to both parties! I'm assuming he already received a better offer, makes no sense otherwise. I suppose his bringing in 1-2k viewers regularly nowadays is attractive. I did appreciate the fat joke by the way. If people insist on being fat they should be able to handle those. Oh, and you can keep the "some people can't help being fat" comments for yourselves, let's suppose I already read them and took note. | ||
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MichaelDonovan
United States1453 Posts
On July 24 2013 02:08 strength wrote: That was funny. People can't take a joke in the SC2 scene. I laughed reasonably hard at it. But at the same time, it's not really fair to make a joke like that at somebody else's expense when desRow himself isn't around to laugh it off or get mad. I feel like a temp ban might be slightly too heavy, but that's only because I personally thought it was funny, so I'm biased. | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On July 24 2013 02:39 Mouzone wrote: I'm assuming he already received a better offer, makes no sense otherwise. I did appreciate the fat joke by the way. If people insist on being fat they should be able to handle those. Oh, and you can keep the "some people can't help being fat" comments for yourselves, let's suppose I already read them and took note. If you're to "insist" people keep their opinions to themselves on the matter of weight, why don't you do likewise and not say something as stupid as "if people insist on being fat?" (and you're quite literally projecting this on to Desrow). | ||
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Eggi
478 Posts
weight jokes are 7th grade, get some new material. gl to desrow, hes really come far from 2-3 years ago, great stream+person. | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On July 24 2013 02:34 IPA wrote: Honest question -- what "other options" is Desrow expecting without a single result? Felt like he was lucky to be on FXO. In any event, good luck to both parties! From what I understand no one on the FXO NA team is paid, so there's no real benefits to being on the team other then FXO being a huge name. The FXO NA team is also a seeder team for the FXO KR side of things from what I understand. Of course I could be completely wrong but this is what I've read from other pro's who left the FXO na squad. | ||
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mikkmagro
Malta1513 Posts
On July 24 2013 02:52 NovemberstOrm wrote: From what I understand no one on the FXO NA team is paid, so there's no real benefits to being on the team other then FXO being a huge name. The FXO NA team is also a seeder team for the FXO KR side of things from what I understand. Of course I could be completely wrong but this is what I've read from other pro's who left the FXO na squad. How can it be a seeder team into FXO.KR? I doubt FXO.KR is going to recruit Americans. They were supposed to practice with each other but I'm not sure whether it's done. FXO.NA is like an academy for up and coming American talents. | ||
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FreedomSC2
Canada224 Posts
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
On July 24 2013 03:00 mikkmagro wrote: How can it be a seeder team into FXO.KR? I doubt FXO.KR is going to recruit Americans. They were supposed to practice with each other but I'm not sure whether it's done. FXO.NA is like an academy for up and coming American talents. I'll go ahead and say that to my knowledge there is no significant interaction between NA and KR FXO. They've definitely got a couple good players; though they just recently lost their best ones. That said, I'm pretty sure Desrow made the right choice with a team leave this time around. Hes one of those d00ds that have been through so many different teams but 7 months is a pretty long time and I'm sure hes just focused on building his own brand name. To people who are not aware, that's worth a bit regardless of skill. Just look at casters. Best of luck to him! ;D + Show Spoiler + p.s. u guys sound like children. how tl has devolved. it was like a venusaur and now its a fucking bulbasaur. fuck ![[image loading]](https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/110356064/venusaur.jpg) TO THIS THING?!?!?! ![[image loading]](http://img.pokemondb.net/artwork/bulbasaur.jpg) look at that evil troll smirk | ||
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rEalGuapo
Germany832 Posts
On July 24 2013 02:43 rd wrote: If you're to "insist" people keep their opinions to themselves on the matter of weight, why don't you do likewise and not say something as stupid as "if people insist on being fat?" (and you're quite literally projecting this on to Desrow). wut? Sidenote, found the fat joke funny and think a temp ban is really not needed. Also, who would offer desrow a lot of money? I mean he gets 1k viewers or a bit more and will never place decently in a tourney ever again. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On July 24 2013 02:08 strength wrote: That was funny. People can't take a joke in the SC2 scene. A joke like that only works in the right situation, this was not that. | ||
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Holdenintherye
Canada1441 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
I look as anorexic as an African villager and I eat all the garbage I want. It's genetics folks. This is a damn shame. If aspiring top NA gms like Desrow who are constantly improving can't keep a team, it says something. My guess is it was probably contract related. They probably wanted to bump down his salary. Best of luck finding a new team man. | ||
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-BCNPalomino-
United States45 Posts
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rEalGuapo
Germany832 Posts
On July 24 2013 03:32 TRaFFiC wrote: Holy shit, so many a-holes in this community. I look as anorexic as an African villager and I eat all the garbage I want. It's genetics folks. This is a damn shame. If aspiring top NA gms like Desrow who are constantly improving can't keep a team, it says something. My guess is it was probably contract related. They probably wanted to bump down his salary. Best of luck finding a new team man. You know that that is actually only true for less than one in 10.000 people? Most like you have no idea how many calories you consume and burn. Genetics in almost all cases do not play a significant role at all in your body weight. More probable is this I also dig the way you criticise! African villigar... classic! | ||
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TXRaunchy
United States131 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On July 24 2013 03:37 rEalGuapo wrote: You know that that is actually only true for less than one in 10.000.000 people? Most like you have no idea how many calories you consume and burn. Genetics in almost all cases do not play a significant role at all in your body weight. More probable is this So according to you only 1 in 10 million people affected by genetics? Cool stats man. Must be some new ground breaking study. Mind sharing the link to that? Fact of the matter is, most of the people throwing out the insults have no idea what it is like to seriously commit yourself to diet and exercise while being over weight. Committing yourself to the gym is easy. I bet not one of these naysayers have managed to follow a consistent diet for 3 months, never mind a life time. It's one of the hardest things you can be challenged with in life. | ||
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zalem95
Peru184 Posts
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
On July 24 2013 03:37 rEalGuapo wrote: You know that that is actually only true for less than one in 10.000.000 people? Most like you have no idea how many calories you consume and burn. Genetics in almost all cases do not play a significant role at all in your body weight. More probable is this I also dig the way you criticise! African villigar... classic! 1 in 10,000,000? No idea where you got that number but I'll blow your mind with some statistics with the note: Holy shit I never knew me and that other guy were so special. And just fyi, what he was talking about has to do with how fast your metabolism works which, in fact,is largely based on genetics. I mean there is even a medical field called metabolic genetics. If that doesn't sound like the hyperbolic time chamber then I dunno what does. | ||
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Cokefreak
Finland8095 Posts
On July 24 2013 01:56 KarlKaliente wrote: FXO was sick of buying two plane tickets to send him anywhere User was warned for this post User was temp banned for this post. Fuck off bitch, fuck you. User was warned for this post | ||
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rEalGuapo
Germany832 Posts
On July 24 2013 03:44 TRaFFiC wrote: So according to you only 1 in 10 million people affected by genetics? Cool stats man. Must be some new ground breaking study. Mind sharing the link to that? Fact of the matter is, most of the people throwing out the insults have no idea what it is like to seriously commit yourself to diet and exercise while being over weight. Committing yourself to the gym is easy. I bet not one of these naysayers have managed to follow a consistent diet for 3 months, never mind a life time. It's one of the hardest things you can be challenged with in life. Well than the world would be full of fat fucks. . . Ok, but even more so. I am not saying that people are not affected by genetics you ignorant piece of s.... I am saying that diet makes like 80% of your body comp, exercise 19.5% and then 0.5% are genetics for almost all of us. In terms of relative weight. I am sorry I did not spell it out to the last detail for you, I should have known you don't understand it otherwise... my bad! Oh and fyi to not look like desrow you do not have to commit hardcore to a strict diet for the rest of your life, eating somewhat healthy in reasonable amounts and spending a half hour of your waking time doing some form of physical activity is way more than enough for that. But go ahead and make excuses for others for no reason at all. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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rEalGuapo
Germany832 Posts
Hah! Edit: Also I had my numbers messed up, for endomorphs (people that tend to gain weight more easily) it is 1 in 10k not 1 in 10mill. Big fucking difference.... still none of you is one. AND STILL an endomorph can get rid of fat by living like a decent human being should. Plus you can change your somatotype by changing your habits (GUESS WHAT: Exercise and diet). So, what say you now captain "I defend those who can only suffer from defense"? | ||
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iSHOKZ
Germany138 Posts
On July 24 2013 03:32 TRaFFiC wrote: Holy shit, so many a-holes in this community. I look as anorexic as an African villager and I eat all the garbage I want. It's genetics folks. This is a damn shame. If aspiring top NA gms like Desrow who are constantly improving can't keep a team, it says something. My guess is it was probably contract related. They probably wanted to bump down his salary. Best of luck finding a new team man. You just have the wrong image of desrow. Everyone who has been in contact with him, every team and every teammember knows how the real desrow behaves. Nothing more to add. Lets see which one is his next team edit: in regards to character, not to his weight. | ||
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Poo
Canada536 Posts
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grs
Germany2339 Posts
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EGLzGaMeR
United States1867 Posts
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Squiggles
Canada54 Posts
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krooked
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To the people arguing about weight, genetics does not play a role except in extremely rare cases where a gland isnt working properly. And even for them, thermodynamics still apply. Diet is everything, physical activity kind of matters but all put within the context of ones diet. To become of desrows size one must be in a big caloric surplus over several years. Of course the reasons for this are many and in the end its hard to blame someone for becoming fat, but it is entirely up to themselves to fix the issue. Surprised by the move, I actually dont believe desrow has anything better going for him. I believe that he had issues with being on the team, to be honest. | ||
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SCguineapig
Netherlands289 Posts
On July 24 2013 02:39 Mouzone wrote: I'm assuming he already received a better offer, makes no sense otherwise. I suppose his bringing in 1-2k viewers regularly nowadays is attractive. I did appreciate the fat joke by the way. If people insist on being fat they should be able to handle those. Oh, and you can keep the "some people can't help being fat" comments for yourselves, let's suppose I already read them and took note. wel they call obesity a disease now. so now fat people can whine that they can't do anything about it. cuz its a disease O_o. desrow was actually trying to lose weight. but i heard that over a year ago. not seeing much results. | ||
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
To all the people saying that he can't do better than FXO-NA, FXO is cool but it's not like they pay him or send him to tournaments. On July 24 2013 06:22 SCguineapig wrote: wel they call obesity a disease now. so now fat people can whine that they can't do anything about it. cuz its a disease O_o. desrow was actually trying to lose weight. but i heard that over a year ago. not seeing much results. Not once has Desrow ever blamed his weight on other people or whined that he can't do anything about it. You have no idea what you're talking about, and most likely don't watch Desrow so of course you don't see results. The "joke" was just being mean-spirited. | ||
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Greendotz
United Kingdom2053 Posts
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playa
United States1284 Posts
On July 24 2013 03:47 -Kyo- wrote: 1 in 10,000,000? No idea where you got that number but I'll blow your mind with some statistics with the note: Holy shit I never knew me and that other guy were so special. And just fyi, what he was talking about has to do with how fast your metabolism works which, in fact,is largely based on genetics. I mean there is even a medical field called metabolic genetics. If that doesn't sound like the hyperbolic time chamber then I dunno what does. Yeah... I could eat an elephant and then have to worry about losing weight, while sitting on my ass. When I was younger, my best friend and I played sports all day, yet he was this 300 pound guy that was too big to even be allowed on the wrestling team. Since I practically lived at his house, we ate the same thing, yet I couldn't gain a pound if my life depended on it. Hating on one's weight seems so shallow and weird to me. Everyone in the US is "fat" to me. In the US, if you're the "ideal" weight for your height, based on a doctor's chart, then usually you're the one getting made fun of... Plus, everyone wants us to be able to compete with Koreans. Foreigners have to stop being lazy. Need to grind out those 14 hours of practice. If you don't have a fast metabolism and you're tasked with needing to compete with Koreans, then you're probably fucked either way. | ||
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RemarK
United States452 Posts
Good luck desRow! You've been playing like a boss lately and I know you'll find a great new team. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Foodar
United States28 Posts
gl to him wherever he ends up. | ||
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MysteryMeat1
United States3291 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
Anyway, good luck to des. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37015 Posts
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Duggibobo
Sweden111 Posts
On July 24 2013 01:56 KarlKaliente wrote: FXO was sick of buying two plane tickets to send him anywhere User was warned for this post User was temp banned for this post. Hahahahhahahahahahahahahah oh jesus ur a funny guy | ||
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KaienFEMC
Canada127 Posts
On July 24 2013 06:13 krooked wrote: I laughed at the weight joke. To the people arguing about weight, genetics does not play a role except in extremely rare cases where a gland isnt working properly. And even for them, thermodynamics still apply. Diet is everything, physical activity kind of matters but all put within the context of ones diet. To become of desrows size one must be in a big caloric surplus over several years. Of course the reasons for this are many and in the end its hard to blame someone for becoming fat, but it is entirely up to themselves to fix the issue. Surprised by the move, I actually dont believe desrow has anything better going for him. I believe that he had issues with being on the team, to be honest. No... Energy conversion in biological system is way more complex than you think. Not everyone who consumes a bottle of coke will gain 150 calories. Not everyone who runs a mile will lose 300 calories. There are people who easily gain weight due to their genetic make up, this is a simple fact. They have to work harder to lose weight. Yes, life is unfair and it is true that it is up to them to put in the extra effort to stay fit in the modern society of developed world. However, saying genetics only apply in extremely rare cases is entirely wrong. | ||
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askmc70
United States722 Posts
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
On July 24 2013 03:52 rEalGuapo wrote: Hah! Edit: Also I had my numbers messed up, for endomorphs (people that tend to gain weight more easily) it is 1 in 10k not 1 in 10mill. Big fucking difference.... still none of you is one. AND STILL an endomorph can get rid of fat by living like a decent human being should. Plus you can change your somatotype by changing your habits (GUESS WHAT: Exercise and diet). So, what say you now captain "I defend those who can only suffer from defense"? This guy must be a brofessor! | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
desRow is fat. Everyone knows this. He knows this. If this were Sheth we were talking about, far less people would be defending the guy making the joke. desRow is actually quite open about it and acknowledges that it's something he needs to work on, and hopefully has been doing so with success. Cut out the personal attacks in irrelevant threads, this isn't Reddit. | ||
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aMEkaRmy
Canada633 Posts
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NoMicroWin
United States688 Posts
On July 24 2013 09:27 FXOkaRmy wrote: It's true FXO.NA Doesn't pay players. FXO.NA Is a team focused on breading new NA talent. If Desrow can find a good team with a better support system like Jimrising and Drunkenboi have than the team is working as planned. I hope he does well for himself. It was nice getting to know him and I'll continue to cheer him on even though we're not team mates any more. GL Marc! Good guy Karmy is Good | ||
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
On July 24 2013 08:57 KaienFEMC wrote: No... Energy conversion in biological system is way more complex than you think. Not everyone who consumes a bottle of coke will gain 150 calories. Not everyone who runs a mile will lose 300 calories. There are people who easily gain weight due to their genetic make up, this is a simple fact. They have to work harder to lose weight. Yes, life is unfair and it is true that it is up to them to put in the extra effort to stay fit in the modern society of developed world. However, saying genetics only apply in extremely rare cases is entirely wrong. I have hypothyroid but its mostly lack of will but I've been trying for almost 2 years now. I'm pretty open about it on stream and since this thread took that direction I guess I can elaborate on my journey so far. October to December 2011 In Canada 490 to 460 December to June 2012 In Korea 460 to 470 June to September 2012 In Canada 470 to 400 September to December 2012 In Poland 400 to 450 December to February 2013 In Canada 450 to 405 February to now Stagnating around 400 My lack of progress has been due to stress and lack of discipline but I'm dedicated more than ever to change.  | ||
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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-JoKeR-
Canada387 Posts
Anyways good luck with finding a new team or sponsorship. mo games. | ||
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followZeRoX
Serbia1449 Posts
On July 24 2013 09:39 desRow wrote: I have hypothyroid but its mostly lack of will but I've been trying for almost 2 years now. I'm pretty open about it on stream and since this thread took that direction I guess I can elaborate on my journey so far. October to December 2011 In Canada 490 to 460 December to June 2012 In Korea 460 to 470 June to September 2012 In Canada 470 to 400 September to December 2012 In Poland 400 to 450 December to February 2013 In Canada 450 to 405 February to now Stagnating around 400 My lack of progress has been due to stress and lack of discipline but I'm dedicated more than ever to change. You cant just have that amplitude of weight. You will lose all your muscles. You got to get weight down slowly but never get that jojo effect and regain a little. It's devastating to heart and muscles. | ||
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Vertigro
United Kingdom261 Posts
On July 24 2013 09:39 desRow wrote: I have hypothyroid but its mostly lack of will but I've been trying for almost 2 years now. I'm pretty open about it on stream and since this thread took that direction I guess I can elaborate on my journey so far. October to December 2011 In Canada 490 to 460 December to June 2012 In Korea 460 to 470 June to September 2012 In Canada 470 to 400 September to December 2012 In Poland 400 to 450 December to February 2013 In Canada 450 to 405 February to now Stagnating around 400 My lack of progress has been due to stress and lack of discipline but I'm dedicated more than ever to change. props for posting this man, respect to you | ||
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askmc70
United States722 Posts
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
On July 24 2013 10:34 askmc70 wrote: how did you gain 50 pounds in poland? were you not on keto? We were not allowed to cook at first. I asked before going if there was meat and veggies and I was told there was. I got there and it was mostly sandwiches and pasta D: . Once we were(the last month of my stay) I had already given up and was just waiting to get back home. | ||
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Quixotic_tv
Germany130 Posts
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SuperEight
United States333 Posts
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Siphonn
United States298 Posts
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Erraa93
Australia891 Posts
On July 24 2013 09:39 desRow wrote: I have hypothyroid but its mostly lack of will but I've been trying for almost 2 years now. I'm pretty open about it on stream and since this thread took that direction I guess I can elaborate on my journey so far. October to December 2011 In Canada 490 to 460 December to June 2012 In Korea 460 to 470 June to September 2012 In Canada 470 to 400 September to December 2012 In Poland 400 to 450 December to February 2013 In Canada 450 to 405 February to now Stagnating around 400 My lack of progress has been due to stress and lack of discipline but I'm dedicated more than ever to change. You didn't need to do that. The topic shouldn't be relevant anyway. But props to you for being open and honest. And hopefully you find luck in all future endeavours. Hopefully a new team will work for you. | ||
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krooked
376 Posts
On July 24 2013 08:57 KaienFEMC wrote: No... Energy conversion in biological system is way more complex than you think. Not everyone who consumes a bottle of coke will gain 150 calories. Not everyone who runs a mile will lose 300 calories. There are people who easily gain weight due to their genetic make up, this is a simple fact. They have to work harder to lose weight. Yes, life is unfair and it is true that it is up to them to put in the extra effort to stay fit in the modern society of developed world. However, saying genetics only apply in extremely rare cases is entirely wrong. Well, you just created your own little scenario of what I actually said. Of course not everybody running 3 miles will use the same amount of energy? More weight = more energy required, obviously. 300kcal is 300kcal for everybody. That does not change. The difference, and I thought this was obvious, is how many calories people use per day. This has A LOT of variables, namely weight, age, activity (both exercise and activity during the day). Some variances will occur, and you could say that it is genetics - But that doesnt change the fact that they have to go in a caloric deficit. I am a 6'4, 21yo male at 215lbs. I used to think I had a very low metabolism or something. That was entirely wrong. I just needed to count calories and increase activity and I could eat a lot of food while losing weight. This will apply to more or less everyone else (counting the variables I already mentioned). But lets say that a person with my stats couldnt eat as much as I do (2600kcal a day not counting any exercise). Lets say he could only eat 2000. Does that mean he can blame genetics? Oh, krooked is losing at 600kcal more than me I guess I am meant to be fat. In the end, genetics really do only apply in rare cases. People are simply misinformed and dont understand the concept calories in/calories out. They get their head stuck in "healthy" and "unhealthy" food etc and never actually do counting and make sure they stay in a deficit. When they do, they will understand that losing weight is easy for more or less all of us. | ||
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MadProbe
United States269 Posts
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askmc70
United States722 Posts
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Rickyvalle21
United States320 Posts
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esReveR
United States567 Posts
On July 24 2013 09:39 desRow wrote: I have hypothyroid but its mostly lack of will but I've been trying for almost 2 years now. I'm pretty open about it on stream and since this thread took that direction I guess I can elaborate on my journey so far. October to December 2011 In Canada 490 to 460 December to June 2012 In Korea 460 to 470 June to September 2012 In Canada 470 to 400 September to December 2012 In Poland 400 to 450 December to February 2013 In Canada 450 to 405 February to now Stagnating around 400 My lack of progress has been due to stress and lack of discipline but I'm dedicated more than ever to change. 100 pounds is an accomplishment, keep up the good work. | ||
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bGr.MetHiX
Bulgaria511 Posts
if u are looking for exposure i guess he is. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51478 Posts
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beesinyoface
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Kim Hyuna
Korea (South)264 Posts
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SchfiftyFive
United States131 Posts
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On July 24 2013 09:39 desRow wrote: I have hypothyroid but its mostly lack of will but I've been trying for almost 2 years now. I'm pretty open about it on stream and since this thread took that direction I guess I can elaborate on my journey so far. October to December 2011 In Canada 490 to 460 December to June 2012 In Korea 460 to 470 June to September 2012 In Canada 470 to 400 September to December 2012 In Poland 400 to 450 December to February 2013 In Canada 450 to 405 February to now Stagnating around 400 My lack of progress has been due to stress and lack of discipline but I'm dedicated more than ever to change. Keep up the good work. You can do it! | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
GL to him i guess,but it will be hard to find a better team than FXO... | ||
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
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Wormi
Germany181 Posts
On July 24 2013 17:26 bGr.MetHiX wrote: if u are looking for results, desrow is not ur guy. if u are looking for exposure i guess he is. says the guy who streams naked ^^ | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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bK-
United States326 Posts
Now only if he put half as much effort into fixing his attitude as he does with his weight problems he would become a great sc2 personality. Unfortunately he still seems to have a, well lack of a better term childish personality. Such as calling people names and looking down on others etc.. etc.. | ||
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TheSwamp
United States1497 Posts
On July 24 2013 03:48 rEalGuapo wrote: Well than the world would be full of fat fucks. . . Ok, but even more so. I am not saying that people are not affected by genetics you ignorant piece of s.... I am saying that diet makes like 80% of your body comp, exercise 19.5% and then 0.5% are genetics for almost all of us. In terms of relative weight. I am sorry I did not spell it out to the last detail for you, I should have known you don't understand it otherwise... my bad! Oh and fyi to not look like desrow you do not have to commit hardcore to a strict diet for the rest of your life, eating somewhat healthy in reasonable amounts and spending a half hour of your waking time doing some form of physical activity is way more than enough for that. But go ahead and make excuses for others for no reason at all. User was temp banned for this post. Spreading false information based on no research or prior knowledge... | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
Go for it.. don't give up! It's hard but it pays off | ||
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Sakray
France2198 Posts
On July 24 2013 18:30 SchfiftyFive wrote: I do play drums alot but I still eat heavy carbs and have never dieted in my life. Drumming is extremely good if you want to lose weight, especially stuff like energic rock, or even better, heavy/extreme metal (because double bass drumming is physical as fuck) Damn, I'm 136.7 lb, each time I pick up my sticks and practice for 1 to 3 hours (mostly extreme metal), I feel I've lost 10 lb of sweat after each session haha. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On July 24 2013 09:39 desRow wrote: I have hypothyroid but its mostly lack of will but I've been trying for almost 2 years now. I'm pretty open about it on stream and since this thread took that direction I guess I can elaborate on my journey so far. October to December 2011 In Canada 490 to 460 December to June 2012 In Korea 460 to 470 June to September 2012 In Canada 470 to 400 September to December 2012 In Poland 400 to 450 December to February 2013 In Canada 450 to 405 February to now Stagnating around 400 My lack of progress has been due to stress and lack of discipline but I'm dedicated more than ever to change. That's pretty impressive! Hope things work out well for you desRow! Best of luck. | ||
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SCguineapig
Netherlands289 Posts
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On July 24 2013 08:57 KaienFEMC wrote: No... Energy conversion in biological system is way more complex than you think. Not everyone who consumes a bottle of coke will gain 150 calories. Not everyone who runs a mile will lose 300 calories. There are people who easily gain weight due to their genetic make up, this is a simple fact. They have to work harder to lose weight. Yes, life is unfair and it is true that it is up to them to put in the extra effort to stay fit in the modern society of developed world. However, saying genetics only apply in extremely rare cases is entirely wrong. stop feeding the trolls, let him spread all the misinformation he wants Not like any sensible person would take dieting advice from a gaming forum. | ||
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Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
On July 24 2013 02:48 Eggi wrote: well technically they do need to buy him two tickets... roundtrip=2 tickets, but obviously it was meant in a slanderous way. weight jokes are 7th grade, get some new material. gl to desrow, hes really come far from 2-3 years ago, great stream+person. I havent watched desrow for like a year, what has he done the last year? He has been High master/mid-GM for 2 years? Is he a regular high GM now? Has he participated, won any tourneys? Dailys atleast? | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
On July 24 2013 04:23 grs wrote: My bet is on mYinsanity. Not a bad idea...Stardust as practice partner would be awesome  | ||
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Irre
United States646 Posts
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
On July 24 2013 21:18 shell wrote: Desrow a bit of advice on the weight thing, you need to make regular exercise. Commit to the gym like 3 days per week, 1 ou 2 hours, plus a better diet and lots of water.. I bet you in a few months you will loose so much and feel so much better that you will never stop! Go for it.. don't give up! It's hard but it pays off and eat carrots | ||
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Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
On July 24 2013 22:34 Irre wrote: I think either being a sc2 pro or losing that kind of weight is a huge fulltime commitment mentally and physically. The best thing would be to take a break from Sc2 and really focus on getting healthy and changing your lifestyle. Then once you are in a better state of mind and healthier decide to go back into Sc2. Sacrificing your health to try to live a very stressful life as an aspiring NA progamer is a bad decision. It will be even harder to get healthy as you get older, and your life will become even more complicated so the time is now! Who the hell can do that? Everyone els in life need to work and make money just to have food and a place to live... If your fat you need to work twice as hard, you still need to work for money, and you must work to lose weight. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24953 Posts
Guy's not the most naturally talented of players around, but he has a pretty good attitude towards working for his goals, and puts up with an inordinate amount of insults on any thread where his name crops up. Also pretty good at interacting with his fans. Tbh, like Destiny before him it seems he might suit being an independent player and focusing on streaming for his fans, unless his level jumps that little bit up where he can legitimately be a threat at lans. | ||
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FXOBoSs
337 Posts
Desrow and I have never really gotten along to the fullest extent. But to drop 100 pounds, especially when your lifestyle and genetics or whatever is playing a part is a huge achievement. Anyone discounting it, not only is a complete asshole but doesn't really know what its really like to suffer from something that is habitual and natural to you. Not only is desrow losing weight, but he is educated on how he will do it. He admits his flaws and mistakes and continues to move forward. So those criticizing him should probably start listing their resume of achievements that gives them the right to post stupid childish crap on a forum in order to bring someone down. I look forward to reading them. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Gr33n
Bahamas113 Posts
just read up about hypothyroid issues. never knew what it was till now | ||
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
On July 24 2013 02:12 Eventine wrote: Nah, they can take a joke. It just has to be vanilla. People are hypersensitive in the Sc2 scene. exactly.. people really need to have some distance to themselves.. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
Well best of luck to him. Not easy being a progamer struggling to break into the scene. | ||
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esReveR
United States567 Posts
On July 25 2013 00:18 FXOBoSs wrote: Fineprint I am not part of FXO anymore so what I am about to say is only personal Desrow and I have never really gotten along to the fullest extent. But to drop 100 pounds, especially when your lifestyle and genetics or whatever is playing a part is a huge achievement. Anyone discounting it, not only is a complete asshole but doesn't really know what its really like to suffer from something that is habitual and natural to you. Not only is desrow losing weight, but he is educated on how he will do it. He admits his flaws and mistakes and continues to move forward. So those criticizing him should probably start listing their resume of achievements that gives them the right to post stupid childish crap on a forum in order to bring someone down. I look forward to reading them. Very well put, good sir. I completely agree with you. | ||
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art_of_turtle
United States1183 Posts
On July 24 2013 01:56 KarlKaliente wrote: FXO was sick of buying two plane tickets to send him anywhere User was warned for this post User was temp banned for this post. This was quite the mean comment, and I will admit I chuckled a bit to myself shamefully, but not much effort was given in the OP, so when I saw this I had to actually look up what he has done. So far its mostly being featured on TL, and losing a few to Stats and puCK all this year. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On July 24 2013 20:16 bK- wrote: Now only if he put half as much effort into fixing his attitude as he does with his weight problems he would become a great sc2 personality. Unfortunately he still seems to have a, well lack of a better term childish personality. Such as calling people names and looking down on others etc.. etc.. Having been his teammate in 2011, his attitude is far, far better than it was. | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On July 25 2013 01:41 Pokebunny wrote: Having been his teammate in 2011, his attitude is far, far better than it was. how so? examples from before and after? | ||
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knOxStarcraft
Canada422 Posts
On July 25 2013 00:18 FXOBoSs wrote: Fineprint I am not part of FXO anymore so what I am about to say is only personal Desrow and I have never really gotten along to the fullest extent. But to drop 100 pounds, especially when your lifestyle and genetics or whatever is playing a part is a huge achievement. Anyone discounting it, not only is a complete asshole but doesn't really know what its really like to suffer from something that is habitual and natural to you. Not only is desrow losing weight, but he is educated on how he will do it. He admits his flaws and mistakes and continues to move forward. So those criticizing him should probably start listing their resume of achievements that gives them the right to post stupid childish crap on a forum in order to bring someone down. I look forward to reading them. One time I dropped 2-3 pounds taking a shit. Now that's an achievement! | ||
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aMEkaRmy
Canada633 Posts
On July 24 2013 11:40 Rickyvalle21 wrote: FXO.NA is starting to fall apart. Only notable players I knew on FXO.NA were Neeb and Desrow. The rest I dont know who they are or they have gone inactive. Not to mention they still have mid masters on the team. FXO.NA Will have a high turn over rate because of the goal for the team. It's a stepping stone for promising NA talent. Players will come, We hope they improve, And we hope they find teams that offer them dirty eSports money. Until the design changes than I don't see that changing. Just because you don't know the players and don't think their notable doesn't mean they aren't. And for the mid masters players I don't really know who you're talking about? | ||
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FosTA
Canada154 Posts
I wish DesRow luck in finding a team that keeps him or he stays on for a longer period of time for him to be able to practice and improve. | ||
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SchfiftyFive
United States131 Posts
On July 24 2013 21:27 Sakray wrote: Drumming is extremely good if you want to lose weight, especially stuff like energic rock, or even better, heavy/extreme metal (because double bass drumming is physical as fuck) Damn, I'm 136.7 lb, each time I pick up my sticks and practice for 1 to 3 hours (mostly extreme metal), I feel I've lost 10 lb of sweat after each session haha. For sure, i hate sweating pools after every session. Its disgusting if I cannot shower right after. LOL | ||
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MichaelDonovan
United States1453 Posts
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radscorpion9
Canada2252 Posts
On July 25 2013 09:35 MichaelDonovan wrote: Thread appears about DesRow leaving his team. Thread within the first page turns into an obesity discussion. Not impressed. You have to admit it was a pretty funny joke  . Its weird how all the funniest comments always end up being on the first page as one of the first few responses. But yeah it was mean...I'm sure desrow is trying his hardest especially with his condition.And so I will say something politically correct. With desrow's hard work and positive attitude in losing weight, I'm sure that his mindset will transfer over into his SC2 career and he will make great waves in the scene! GO DESROW | ||
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asdfOu
United States2089 Posts
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RDaneelOlivaw
Vatican City State733 Posts
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-TGO-
United States156 Posts
I think he's good enough to get on a team like coL, Clarity, or the new team SMi now. I used to watch his stream every day and all day until he stopped, but now I'm a LoL druggie. I still tune in once in a while though. He honestly deserves a position on a paying team. | ||
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askmc70
United States722 Posts
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Penguin7
United States16 Posts
, he is my favorite streamer, DESROW FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!! PANDATOSS | ||
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Oiseaux
United States676 Posts
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On July 25 2013 12:36 Oiseaux wrote: I can't believe this many pages in a people are still defending such a pathetic excuse of a "joke" that admins felt worthy enough of a ban. Grow the fuck up. It was pretty funny imo... made me laugh.. | ||
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DomiNater
United States527 Posts
I laughed at the joke to. He could have made it better though. I mean, that's why his name is desRow and not desSeat. | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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NET
United States703 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8230 Posts
On July 25 2013 01:41 Pokebunny wrote: Having been his teammate in 2011, his attitude is far, far better than it was. I've watched his streams before and he seemed like a jerk... He used to "coach" the community and cast community replays or something like that, and he was just laughing at the guy's play. Was not impressed. | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
On July 25 2013 11:29 -TGO- wrote: He honestly deserves a position on a paying team. Based on....? Total lack of results? Mid-level NA credentials? I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just wondering what you base that on when the world has so, so much raw talent and hunger out there. | ||
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bK-
United States326 Posts
On July 25 2013 15:10 IPA wrote: Based on....? Total lack of results? Mid-level NA credentials? I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just wondering what you base that on when the world has so, so much raw talent and hunger out there. I second this notion that entitlement is not the way we should go about things. Look at idra as a fine example of someone who was 'entitled" due to his past and received pay. Not only did he not provide results after the initial 6-9 months of sc2's release he completely fell off the map. Desrow has no real noteworthy results in his past and is just another "streamer" on twitch that is it. Players who perform well and provide results such as an innovation,MVP or Flash should be getting paid because they earned it. Desrow still has a long ways to go before he is placing high in any GSL or MLG to earn pay. | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On July 25 2013 15:30 bK- wrote: I second this notion that entitlement is not the way we should go about things. Look at idra as a fine example of someone who was 'entitled" due to his past and received pay. Not only did he not provide results after the initial 6-9 months of sc2's release he completely fell off the map. Desrow has no real noteworthy results in his past and is just another "streamer" on twitch that is it. Players who perform well and provide results such as an innovation,MVP or Flash should be getting paid because they earned it. Desrow still has a long ways to go before he is placing high in any GSL or MLG to earn pay. It sounds like you're having a hard time keeping your dislike for Desrow hidden. Desrow is far from entitled. You're talking about someone who flew half way around the world multiple times just to find good practice (Poland,Korea). You're talking about a guy who practices HARD everyday and built his fan base from the bottom up. I'm not even a big fan and I know this... You say he's just a "streamer" which is damn right insulting. He's a player foremost and a streamer and personality second. The problem is the sc2 scene isn't big enough for people who aren't at the very top to get paid well. So they do whatever they can (stream, coach etc). People like you aren't hoping the scene grow with your negativity. NA will never have a chance if we shit on everyone. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On July 25 2013 18:58 TRaFFiC wrote: It sounds like you're having a hard time keeping your dislike for Desrow hidden. Desrow is far from entitled. You're talking about someone who flew half way around the world multiple times just to find good practice (Poland,Korea). You're talking about a guy who practices HARD everyday and built his fan base from the bottom up. I'm not even a big fan and I know this... You say he's just a "streamer" which is damn right insulting. He's a player foremost and a streamer and personality second. The problem is the sc2 scene isn't big enough for people who aren't at the very top to get paid well. So they do whatever they can (stream, coach etc). People like you aren't hoping the scene grow with your negativity. NA will never have a chance if we shit on everyone. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=240438 desrow pissed off just about everybody in the scene when he first started by doing blogs like the above every other day. There is a reason for all these negativity. | ||
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e4e5nf3
Canada599 Posts
On July 25 2013 14:11 docvoc wrote: At some point desrow is going to have to retire, though, right? He isn't a young guy anymore by game standards, and he was never so successful that he could necessarily coach effectively; not to mention he has shown he doesn't exactly have the personality for it. I'm confused where he goes from here. As long as the viewers/ad revenue are supplementing his income he can probably continue to stream indefinitely even though his competitive results may be lacking. I mean, Destiny is not making a dent in either SC2 or LoL right now but he's still getting enough viewers to make some sort of living and I think that's all that counts for him. Of course, desrow's numbers are nowhere near Destiny's. But he's still getting adequete numbers. We'll see if he can maintain that in another year or so.. | ||
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29 fps
United States5724 Posts
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
On July 25 2013 23:44 rei wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=240438 desrow pissed off just about everybody in the scene when he first started by doing blogs like the above every other day. There is a reason for all these negativity. Thanks for linking this I went back and looked at our bo3 in that XBL tournament hahah Btw looking back on it those blogs weren't super serious, they were light hearted but definitely not the smartest decision. | ||
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Pirfiktshon
United States1072 Posts
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
On July 24 2013 09:39 desRow wrote: I have hypothyroid but its mostly lack of will but I've been trying for almost 2 years now. I'm pretty open about it on stream and since this thread took that direction I guess I can elaborate on my journey so far. October to December 2011 In Canada 490 to 460 December to June 2012 In Korea 460 to 470 June to September 2012 In Canada 470 to 400 September to December 2012 In Poland 400 to 450 December to February 2013 In Canada 450 to 405 February to now Stagnating around 400 My lack of progress has been due to stress and lack of discipline but I'm dedicated more than ever to change. You took out 70 pounds in 4 months?! Holy fuck that is amazing. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 26 2013 04:47 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: You took out 70 pounds in 4 months?! Holy fuck that is amazing. Thats beast mode in weight loss. I wish I lose 10 pounds in that much time(PS, I am at my normal body weight, execpt at Xmass). | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On July 26 2013 01:51 desRow wrote: Thanks for linking this I went back and looked at our bo3 in that XBL tournament hahah Btw looking back on it those blogs weren't super serious, they were light hearted but definitely not the smartest decision. lies, who would want to watch how noob we were back then, If i remember correctly i think i made 20 overlords in frustration after i got supply block in game one and you were laughing your ass off after seeing them pop out when you got to my base. | ||
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marcjpb
Canada64 Posts
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