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Announcing StarCraft 2 League Powered by D-Link! - Page 19

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TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
July 11 2013 10:18 GMT
#361
Wow, great project. I'm so thankful to people like incontrol who put in so much time to the scene. And all while mantaining a top 50 gm spot... impressive.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Grouch
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada152 Posts
July 11 2013 10:28 GMT
#362
I think that I am the one person who enjoys the overlay.
Sound #1
iMAniaC
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway703 Posts
July 11 2013 11:48 GMT
#363
On July 11 2013 16:39 Joedaddy wrote:
Can someone link me to the announcement of this announcement, please.

http://twitter.com/EGiNcontroL/status/335089372284190720


On topic: I'd just like to show a couple of thumbs up for this project, just to compensate for some of the negative feedback. It's very obvious that there's been lots of hurdles to get this league started, and it's pretty obvious that iNcontroL and EG are doing the professional thing by taking responsibility for those hurdles (even though I'm speculating that lots of those hurdles were due to external factors out of their hands). I can easily imagine the amount of frustration they must've experienced with this project. First starting a league in January, not getting it done properly and having to scrap it. Then doing it again in June and running into additional problems so that this, too, gets delayed. Then, when it finally goes public, not only do they have to answer for the current problems, but they even receive flak for the first attempt, which wasn't good enough to be shown. It seems that you're not allowed to even try anything if it's now perfect form the get-go. It seems that a failed attempt at something awesome is far worse than just passive indifference. We wouldn't even have a community if people were too afraid to try something because the outrage if they fail is simply not worth it.

Personally, I'm really excited to see what SC2L can become. I remember the shitstorm with the first season of GSL, when the resolution was low and the connection bad. Or the early MLG's with their connection problems (and I think computer problems?). But today, these events represent the standard to which everyone else are compared, because they aimed high and kept going through the shitstorm until they had become as awesome as they first set out to be, on their nth attempt. By having really awesome casters, a huge sponsor and international teams, I see that SC2L aims high and I think we should support them in becoming what they envision rather than complaining about all the problems they've already had.
StreetWise
Profile Joined January 2010
United States594 Posts
July 11 2013 12:56 GMT
#364
Does it count if we already own a dlink with the gamer lounge? I dont need another unfortunately.
I will not be poisoned by your bitterness
theacox
Profile Joined June 2011
United States38 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 13:41:57
July 11 2013 13:41 GMT
#365
On July 11 2013 18:30 Nihilnovi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 09:49 FatkiddsLag wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:33 Kvz wrote:
Just clarification:

If I spend 200 dollars on the dlink 'gaming' router then 10 dollars of my purchase will go to the prize pool for the league?

Seems like quite a small portion of my purchase


What are you talking about? That's 5% of the price of the router. How much do you think it costs to make one of those? I would say a conservative estimate is $75. Possibly as high as a $125. This could be anywhere from 8 to 15 percent of there total profits.


As someone who imports electronics from shenzen, I can guarantee that the manufacturing cost for this is about 20$ if they have bought out a entire factory, and about 30$ if its sourced manufacturing.

I import only a few containers of sourced tablets and they cost me ~10$ each and they go for 149$ to consumer.

Dont kid yourself with such high estimates, the margins o electronics are about 1000% of production cost. Of course there are many other costs on they way, the biggest being taxes, but thats a general estimate.


Not sure if this is entirely accurate.

http://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0912/the-cost-of-making-an-iphone.aspx


"Asymco analyst Horace Dediu used the "Nightline" report to estimate that Apple pays labor costs of between $12.50 and $30 for every iPhone it makes, which represents just 2-5% of the iPhone's sale price."

"So if the materials cost roughly $188, and Dediu has calculated that an additional $93 is spent on manufacturing its smartphone, (a cost that includes the labor costs, transportation, storage and warranty expenses) we reach a total of about $281 to manufacture an iPhone that retails at $649. This represents a profit for Apple of $368 per iPhone."

So even with a company like Apple, known for having some of the largest gross margins in the industry we don't see anywhere near 1000% markup. It's slightly under 200% for the iPhone according to these estimates. This also makes your comment about taxes being the largest factor clearly inaccurate.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 03:44:39
July 12 2013 01:47 GMT
#366
Is it just me or is this not showing up on the TL schedule? I assume that this isn't intentional?

Edit: Looks to have been fixed
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
SC2.PiXL
Profile Joined October 2011
United States35 Posts
July 12 2013 03:32 GMT
#367
Does anyone know why I cant see the 7th ace match with sage and hero on the SC2L website?!
I am an E-Sports fanboy <3 ||| Cleveland BarCraft - @clevelandbarcraft - and on facebook
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 03:44:45
July 12 2013 03:44 GMT
#368
On July 12 2013 12:32 SC2.PiXL wrote:
Does anyone know why I cant see the 7th ace match with sage and hero on the SC2L website?!

Because the guys messed up and embedded game 6 in the game 7 spot. Here you go.
SC2.PiXL
Profile Joined October 2011
United States35 Posts
July 12 2013 03:47 GMT
#369
Because the guys messed up and embedded game 6 in the game 7 spot. Here you go.

Why thank you good sir<3

Btw Geoff, I love this, and f**k the haters, you guys are only going to improve and I can't wait:D <3 gl!
I am an E-Sports fanboy <3 ||| Cleveland BarCraft - @clevelandbarcraft - and on facebook
thunder54
Profile Joined March 2011
38 Posts
July 12 2013 03:51 GMT
#370
for all the people complaining about them having 1000% mark up on their products you are all idiots who have not the slightest clue on the cost of running a large business.

the cost of staff, advertising, distribution, research and development, tax. insurance, the list goes on and on. then of course they are ment to start this huge operation all for your leisure how dare they make a profit, grow up you idiots and shut your mouths your lack of knowledge is embarrassing.
Alexis_Evo
Profile Joined July 2013
United States22 Posts
July 12 2013 03:56 GMT
#371
WTF is going on? Originally the schedule had Mouz vs Acer for last night, but then it got shifted to tonight. Now on the schedule on the website, there's NO game tonight, and Mouz vs Acer has been moved to Sunday, with nothing on tonight OR tomorrow?

This is really starting to bother me :|. I was pumped for Mouz vs Acer both last night AND tonight, wtf?
Don't meddle with her heart, meddle with her mind, meddle with the things that are inside. You don't know what you'll find, you don't know what she hides.
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria925 Posts
July 12 2013 04:02 GMT
#372
Great news.
Livin' this life like it was written.
DreamEater
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6 Posts
July 12 2013 17:37 GMT
#373
Might I suggest that your plan be a little more broad? I understand the $10 for a $200 router, but wouldn't it be more feasible to get everyone on board with D-Link and do $1 prize pool increase, regardless of the router type?
Sweet dreams.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33667 Posts
July 12 2013 21:01 GMT
#374
this is on at such a terrible time for Korea
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Siphyo
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands121 Posts
July 13 2013 09:36 GMT
#375
On July 13 2013 06:01 Waxangel wrote:
this is on at such a terrible time for Korea


You replied almost exactly the same in the DH Valencia topic. We get it, but during the morning is still better than in the middle of the night (Europe), right? And Europe hasn't seen any serious team league on watchable times yet, so get in line :-).
HSY - KMK - Hyomin - Yoona - Sojin | NesTea - DRG - Puzzle - Bomber - NANIWA
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
July 13 2013 09:46 GMT
#376
On July 13 2013 18:36 Siphyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 06:01 Waxangel wrote:
this is on at such a terrible time for Korea


You replied almost exactly the same in the DH Valencia topic. We get it, but during the morning is still better than in the middle of the night (Europe), right? And Europe hasn't seen any serious team league on watchable times yet, so get in line :-).

He is trolling you.
Alexis_Evo
Profile Joined July 2013
United States22 Posts
July 13 2013 23:54 GMT
#377
I love how the observers computer has lagged literally every single game they have broadcast. Funding didn't include any money for a decent gaming rig? :/
Don't meddle with her heart, meddle with her mind, meddle with the things that are inside. You don't know what you'll find, you don't know what she hides.
illrush
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5 Posts
July 14 2013 01:51 GMT
#378
I've been enjoying it. I would certainly partake in the prize pool but it seems once again Canadians are excluded. What a shame.
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 19:41:31
July 15 2013 19:41 GMT
#379
Does the players stats come from the league ? Is that so that's kind of a bummer :/

I kind of doubt it since so there are so many games but still I don't really see a good explanation to its origin.
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
elfonse
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
July 15 2013 19:50 GMT
#380
Is there a chance that the games will become live games eventually?
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