EPTIm fine with the BF upgrade but fact is dat if we still need to armory to make hellbat..an upgrade to transform plus only 2 hellbats can fit in one dropship? Doesnt make much sense to me. Undo some of the nerfs..if they do round same as helion...maybe need to put back 4 hellbats to a dropship. need to spend more money to upgrade the transformation ability which is still pointless and a good waste of money. I love cloak is cheaper but realistically how useful is that. Zerg makes spores without evo...toss has has obs and nexus cannon and prob still use cannon in mineral lines..i dont see how banshee is any helpful same way only again its seem only relevant to tvt but just made hellbats shit for tvz and tvp. So for me not to have good hellbats in my army in tvp i need a second fact to get the upgrade? Undo a nerf to hellbats dat was previous made so hellbats wont become useless plz unless its mech.
Balance patch this week - Hellbats nerfed, Banshees buffed…
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WarDestroyer
Jamaica3 Posts
Im fine with the BF upgrade but fact is dat if we still need to armory to make hellbat..an upgrade to transform plus only 2 hellbats can fit in one dropship? Doesnt make much sense to me. Undo some of the nerfs..if they do round same as helion...maybe need to put back 4 hellbats to a dropship. need to spend more money to upgrade the transformation ability which is still pointless and a good waste of money. I love cloak is cheaper but realistically how useful is that. Zerg makes spores without evo...toss has has obs and nexus cannon and prob still use cannon in mineral lines..i dont see how banshee is any helpful same way only again its seem only relevant to tvt but just made hellbats shit for tvz and tvp. So for me not to have good hellbats in my army in tvp i need a second fact to get the upgrade? Undo a nerf to hellbats dat was previous made so hellbats wont become useless plz unless its mech. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27360 Posts
On July 09 2013 07:32 HystericaLaughter wrote: Why do people keep bringing up Innovation's name in this thread? I thought he only recently jumped on the Hellbat bandwagon. He made a name for himself by winning some disgustingly one-sided TvZ series against the best Zergs in the world, where he played a hyper aggressive bio/mine multitasking style. And he played marine/tank with heavy drop play in TvT which was the standard for a while. Innovation is basically just the perfect Kespa robot. He plays what ever style the Korean metagame dictates is the strongest and does it better than anyone else. Often wondered that myself, guy was famous for his drop play and multitasking and general mechanics even back in WoL | ||
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Vanimar
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:01 Cenecia wrote: This is obviously the most important detail. They'd better! I mean, we all remember the moment they changed the blue flame upgrade ICON to actually have blue flames. Thus followed SlayerS terran domination. | ||
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c0sm0naut
United States1229 Posts
On July 09 2013 07:50 Zarahtra wrote: Don't know, think it will be fine with TvZ. With cheap cloak, you can force early lair tech for detection. Also banshees will make T a lot safer than hellbat openings vs any kind of busts(and possibly therefor allow terran to be even more greedy behind the banshees if that's possible :D). I don't think TvZ will be that bad after the nerf to hellbats. TvP however will be terrible. Banshees can't do anything in TvP, so they basically killed hellbat drop opener without giving anything in return. For mech this is a terrible nerf, just removing the threat of hellbat drops is a huge loss. For TvT I just don't like this nerf. It's one of the typical "we think something is broken, so just fuck it". I don't particularly think everyone going banshee vs banshee is any better than hellbat vs hellbat. MTE, does anyone know of a masters + protoss not going MSC > gate FE > robotics > 2-3 observer > X > Y > Z in macro games? The 2 mine + 4 marine drop is pretty much all i see at a pro level beyond just standard CC first or reactor fe > 3 barrack bio, banshee functions almost exactly the same as the mine drop but will cost more... The reaction from your opponent is still the same, stalkers + obs + photon overcharg | ||
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onPHYRE
Bulgaria925 Posts
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
On July 09 2013 08:01 SC2John wrote: I mean, we all remember the moment they changed the blue flame upgrade ICON to actually have blue flames. Thus followed SlayerS terran domination. it will be blue source:reddit blizz member | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
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cerebralz
United States443 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On July 09 2013 08:01 SC2John wrote: I mean, we all remember the moment they changed the blue flame upgrade ICON to actually have blue flames. Thus followed SlayerS terran domination. Well that was more that they were never used in that way. The whole elevator into the base while clearing the way with helilions in the ground was unheard off. Unless some special new tactics come out it won't be nearly the same  | ||
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cerebralz
United States443 Posts
On July 09 2013 08:11 Gamegene wrote: sigh. TvT goes from hellbat wars to banshee wars. why I disagree totally. A few turrets with marines can stop a banshee if you're prepared. Being totally prepared, you can STILL lose all your workers to hellbat drops. | ||
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WarDestroyer
Jamaica3 Posts
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ProAndrii
United Kingdom17 Posts
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Lock0n
United Kingdom184 Posts
Give it 2 months before the win rates start skewing heavily in protoss favour, and Blizzard realise what a massive mistake they've made and buff ghosts instead. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On July 09 2013 08:13 cerebralz wrote: I disagree totally. A few turrets with marines can stop a banshee if you're prepared. Being totally prepared, you can STILL lose all your workers to hellbat drops. it completely restricts the build orders in TvT back to fast starports, otherwise you're investing too many resources in things that don't contribute to the later stages of the game while your opponent is doing a lot of damage relative to what you're doing. it's just rock paper scissors which i guess is better than the mindless button pressing involved with hellbats. | ||
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
WCS Eu Season 1 - 8 Eu T WCS Eu Season 2 - 6 Eu T prediction: WCS Eu Season 3 - 4 Eu T (if we are lucky). At least we've had one season with pretty good Eu T representation. I'm not a fan of this change. Guess I'll have to watch more | ||
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midoriiro
United States20 Posts
If they can please just stop having medivacs heal the darned things. Pleaaasseee! | ||
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yellowdrug
Korea (South)33 Posts
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Phanekim
United States777 Posts
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