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_Thrasher
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada56 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 13:08:37
July 06 2013 02:10 GMT
#1
Title says it all. I rarely see him tweet or get mentioned. this is a trend for pretty much all of 2013 thus far.

I thought he was a great dude and a good player!

Does anyone know whats he's up to?

Is he still a member of TL? Will we ever see him again?

I really just wanna know whats going on with this incredibly manner person!


UPDATE FROM SHETH:

On July 06 2013 12:00 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Hi guys. I wrote two more blogs that I didn't put up, because they just didn't feel quite right. I know I need to put out more information like "Well I'm retired" or "Its looking positive". But right now my hands just aren't at the point I can come back to play and honestly I'm scared to say I'm retired. Its a scary thing. I don't want to leave e-sports and I don't want to go into casting, but at the same time, my hands hurt way too much when I play sc2 to consider going back to it atm. I can play xbox games on a controller, or even a little of other games like League or Dota or whatever, but whenever I play even 2-3 games of SC2 my hands end up killing me that entire week.

I'd love to have had that fixed by now. Its been over 6 months sense I had this hand problem. However I guess things don't always go as planned. I'm going to start part time college shortly. I'm trying all I can to fix the hand problem, but its sad because I just don't have any great news. I still follow the scene as much as I can, and root for my team mates. As for diet, its still fairly similiar to my last blog, So nothing great on that front. Just in a place where I'm really sad about my hands, because SC2 was my life. And by no longer being able to play games, or go to events I kind of lost a lot of friends, or at least interaction with friends. So just going on and hoping in the future. If you have any questions I'll do my best to answer em here. Sorry its not great news, but not too much I can do with hands like this.

I will say over the past few months they've been getting better. For a week or two they've been feeling great, but then I played a few SC2 games and it went from no pain to lots of pain. So it seems very SC2 related rather then just typing on the computer or playing other games. I'm taking lots of supplements for my hands, and just trying/tried so many things for them. Anyway thanks for still having an interest in me even though I haven't released much information lately. I obviously still read TL all the time and love this community
"NOL" - Bomber
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
July 06 2013 02:11 GMT
#2
Redundant Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414696
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
July 06 2013 02:13 GMT
#3
On July 06 2013 11:11 astroorion wrote:
Redundant Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414696

That thread is old and closed!
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
July 06 2013 02:14 GMT
#4
Eaxtly, it had links to any relevant information, and was closed for a good reason. A second thread of similar nature will likely end the same way
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
July 06 2013 02:16 GMT
#5
Actually I closed the other thread because it ended with terrible "source!?!" and "inb4" jokes. Leaving this open until posting becomes "meh" again
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 02:18:18
July 06 2013 02:17 GMT
#6
Ah, I figured nothing has changed since then, but you have the power ^_^

Edit: Also I apologize if my reply sounded rude, too many bad games of Counter Strike today
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
_Thrasher
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada56 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 02:21:29
July 06 2013 02:17 GMT
#7
On July 06 2013 11:11 astroorion wrote:
Redundant Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414696


This thread may be the same topic, but after skimming it; I don't really see an answer. I know you probably think you contributed to this thread, but you did not even take the time to suggest a response, likely only ran a quick search with the title. thanks I guess if im way off, but all I see is puma discussion

Edit: in response to astroorion; I didnt mean to come off as rude in response. I just felt the need to defend my post! Sorry man!
"NOL" - Bomber
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 06 2013 02:20 GMT
#8
Sheth had wrist and weight problems so he took a break from Starcraft however I haven't heard an update in a while.
Moderatorlickypiddy
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
July 06 2013 02:21 GMT
#9
On July 06 2013 11:17 _Thrasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 11:11 astroorion wrote:
Redundant Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414696


This thread may be the same topic, but after skimming it; I don't really see an answer. I know you probably think you contributed to this thread, but you did not even take the time to suggest a response, likely only ran a quick search with the title. thanks I guess if im way off, but all I see is puma discussion


You are 100% correct, I did a simple search which usually can answer such a simple question, but I didn't get the right thread. He did a blog update a while ago which I can't seem to find, but this Reddit comment seems to be the most up to date
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
_Thrasher
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada56 Posts
July 06 2013 02:22 GMT
#10
On July 06 2013 11:20 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Sheth had wrist and weight problems so he took a break from Starcraft however I haven't heard an update in a while.


Almost too long I think!

I wanna know whats going on with him, even if it's nothing exciting. I just care about our pros!
"NOL" - Bomber
_Thrasher
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada56 Posts
July 06 2013 02:27 GMT
#11
On July 06 2013 11:21 astroorion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 11:17 _Thrasher wrote:
On July 06 2013 11:11 astroorion wrote:
Redundant Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414696


This thread may be the same topic, but after skimming it; I don't really see an answer. I know you probably think you contributed to this thread, but you did not even take the time to suggest a response, likely only ran a quick search with the title. thanks I guess if im way off, but all I see is puma discussion


You are 100% correct, I did a simple search which usually can answer such a simple question, but I didn't get the right thread. He did a blog update a while ago which I can't seem to find, but this Reddit comment seems to be the most up to date



hmm this does say a great deal about the situation. It makes me wonder, why is it just these short updates from him? seems weird to say but it feels like he/teamliquid are taking advantage of esports dollars to support someone who (while trying to get better and who will eventually contribute I'm sure) will eventually stall out and not offer the same thing they once did. Wouldent this support be better invested in someone else?
"NOL" - Bomber
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
July 06 2013 02:31 GMT
#12
On July 06 2013 11:27 _Thrasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 11:21 astroorion wrote:
On July 06 2013 11:17 _Thrasher wrote:
On July 06 2013 11:11 astroorion wrote:
Redundant Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414696


This thread may be the same topic, but after skimming it; I don't really see an answer. I know you probably think you contributed to this thread, but you did not even take the time to suggest a response, likely only ran a quick search with the title. thanks I guess if im way off, but all I see is puma discussion


You are 100% correct, I did a simple search which usually can answer such a simple question, but I didn't get the right thread. He did a blog update a while ago which I can't seem to find, but this Reddit comment seems to be the most up to date



hmm this does say a great deal about the situation. It makes me wonder, why is it just these short updates from him? seems weird to say but it feels like he/teamliquid are taking advantage of esports dollars to support someone who (while trying to get better and who will eventually contribute I'm sure) will eventually stall out and not offer the same thing they once did. Wouldent this support be better invested in someone else?


I'm no professional, but I'm assuming since he's on break he's not getting paid at all, or very little. Maybe if he was streaming or contributing he might be getting paid, but I don't think he is.
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
July 06 2013 02:33 GMT
#13
On July 06 2013 11:20 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Sheth had wrist and weight problems so he took a break from Starcraft however I haven't heard an update in a while.

That seemed like it was several months ago, nothing in this long feels like an eternity on the internet though.
User was warned for too many mimes.
_Thrasher
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada56 Posts
July 06 2013 02:35 GMT
#14
On July 06 2013 11:33 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 11:20 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Sheth had wrist and weight problems so he took a break from Starcraft however I haven't heard an update in a while.

That seemed like it was several months ago, nothing in this long feels like an eternity on the internet though.



Agreed, if he hopes to come back now, its going to be purely of the hype of who he once was. I want an answer! I want a convincing reason why he has been gone so long!!
"NOL" - Bomber
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
July 06 2013 02:36 GMT
#15
That Source thread was really fun.

I thought Sheth was gonna do more blogs but he hasn't since like Frebrurrauary.
BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
July 06 2013 02:36 GMT
#16
On July 06 2013 11:31 astroorion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 11:27 _Thrasher wrote:
On July 06 2013 11:21 astroorion wrote:
On July 06 2013 11:17 _Thrasher wrote:
On July 06 2013 11:11 astroorion wrote:
Redundant Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414696


This thread may be the same topic, but after skimming it; I don't really see an answer. I know you probably think you contributed to this thread, but you did not even take the time to suggest a response, likely only ran a quick search with the title. thanks I guess if im way off, but all I see is puma discussion


You are 100% correct, I did a simple search which usually can answer such a simple question, but I didn't get the right thread. He did a blog update a while ago which I can't seem to find, but this Reddit comment seems to be the most up to date



hmm this does say a great deal about the situation. It makes me wonder, why is it just these short updates from him? seems weird to say but it feels like he/teamliquid are taking advantage of esports dollars to support someone who (while trying to get better and who will eventually contribute I'm sure) will eventually stall out and not offer the same thing they once did. Wouldent this support be better invested in someone else?


I'm no professional, but I'm assuming since he's on break he's not getting paid at all, or very little. Maybe if he was streaming or contributing he might be getting paid, but I don't think he is.


It would be based on the contract he had signed with teamliquid, something none of us here would have any knowledge of as TL likes to keep them private between themselves and the players.
"two is way better than twice as one" - artosis
TeslasPigeon
Profile Joined March 2012
464 Posts
July 06 2013 02:43 GMT
#17
I don't know what exactly he is up to but he still posts on reddit and was even in the Blizzard Community AMA on /r/starcraft.
MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
July 06 2013 02:44 GMT
#18
I miss you Sheth

But dont you dare come back before you are ready!
SecondSandwich
Profile Joined July 2008
United States319 Posts
July 06 2013 02:46 GMT
#19
Good point! He's been gone for so long I forgot he was even gone :-O
"Whatever [flash] says is the best, is the best" -Artosis i!i!i!i!i!Find Match!i!i!i!i!!i
_Thrasher
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada56 Posts
July 06 2013 02:46 GMT
#20
On July 06 2013 11:44 MstrJinbo wrote:
I miss you Sheth

But dont you dare come back before you are ready!



Dont you agree he should at least be around!!? In my opinion occasionally commenting on reddit hardly says anything!
"NOL" - Bomber
A Wild Sosd
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia421 Posts
July 06 2013 02:48 GMT
#21
He posted in the esports ama.
Bomber | TaeJa | Life | Scarlett I Twitter: @SosdSC2
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 02:51:31
July 06 2013 02:49 GMT
#22
On July 06 2013 11:44 MstrJinbo wrote:
I miss you Sheth

But dont you dare come back before you are ready!


I think TL should at least give an update on his health/gaming even if it is just a very vague update

For instance, "Sheth is taking an indefinite leave of absence for __________________ "
JD, need I say more? :D
_Thrasher
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada56 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 02:53:47
July 06 2013 02:53 GMT
#23
On July 06 2013 11:49 LimeNade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 11:44 MstrJinbo wrote:
I miss you Sheth

But dont you dare come back before you are ready!


I think TL should at least give an update on his health/gaming even if it is just a very vague update

For instance, "Sheth is taking an indefinite leave of absence for __________________ "


This! I want an official statement from either him or TL!

I saw a tonne of talent in this man, it hurts me that I cannot support it!
"NOL" - Bomber
Endall
Profile Joined August 2011
United States66 Posts
July 06 2013 02:58 GMT
#24
Sometimes people just have "life" issues it would seem and need to get out no matter how they get out. I know Sheth has showed up here and there every so often, but the dude is obviously got something going on and I wish him the best. I would love to see him come back and do well, but I have faith he is doing what Sheth needs to do.
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Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
July 06 2013 03:00 GMT
#25
Hi guys. I wrote two more blogs that I didn't put up, because they just didn't feel quite right. I know I need to put out more information like "Well I'm retired" or "Its looking positive". But right now my hands just aren't at the point I can come back to play and honestly I'm scared to say I'm retired. Its a scary thing. I don't want to leave e-sports and I don't want to go into casting, but at the same time, my hands hurt way too much when I play sc2 to consider going back to it atm. I can play xbox games on a controller, or even a little of other games like League or Dota or whatever, but whenever I play even 2-3 games of SC2 my hands end up killing me that entire week.

I'd love to have had that fixed by now. Its been over 6 months sense I had this hand problem. However I guess things don't always go as planned. I'm going to start part time college shortly. I'm trying all I can to fix the hand problem, but its sad because I just don't have any great news. I still follow the scene as much as I can, and root for my team mates. As for diet, its still fairly similiar to my last blog, So nothing great on that front. Just in a place where I'm really sad about my hands, because SC2 was my life. And by no longer being able to play games, or go to events I kind of lost a lot of friends, or at least interaction with friends. So just going on and hoping in the future. If you have any questions I'll do my best to answer em here. Sorry its not great news, but not too much I can do with hands like this.

I will say over the past few months they've been getting better. For a week or two they've been feeling great, but then I played a few SC2 games and it went from no pain to lots of pain. So it seems very SC2 related rather then just typing on the computer or playing other games. I'm taking lots of supplements for my hands, and just trying/tried so many things for them. Anyway thanks for still having an interest in me even though I haven't released much information lately. I obviously still read TL all the time and love this community
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
July 06 2013 03:05 GMT
#26
On July 06 2013 12:00 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Hi guys. I wrote two more blogs that I didn't put up, because they just didn't feel quite right. I know I need to put out more information like "Well I'm retired" or "Its looking positive". But right now my hands just aren't at the point I can come back to play and honestly I'm scared to say I'm retired. Its a scary thing. I don't want to leave e-sports and I don't want to go into casting, but at the same time, my hands hurt way too much when I play sc2 to consider going back to it atm. I can play xbox games on a controller, or even a little of other games like League or Dota or whatever, but whenever I play even 2-3 games of SC2 my hands end up killing me that entire week.

I'd love to have had that fixed by now. Its been over 6 months sense I had this hand problem. However I guess things don't always go as planned. I'm going to start part time college shortly. I'm trying all I can to fix the hand problem, but its sad because I just don't have any great news. I still follow the scene as much as I can, and root for my team mates. As for diet, its still fairly similiar to my last blog, So nothing great on that front. Just in a place where I'm really sad about my hands, because SC2 was my life. And by no longer being able to play games, or go to events I kind of lost a lot of friends, or at least interaction with friends. So just going on and hoping in the future. If you have any questions I'll do my best to answer em here. Sorry its not great news, but not too much I can do with hands like this.

I will say over the past few months they've been getting better. For a week or two they've been feeling great, but then I played a few SC2 games and it went from no pain to lots of pain. So it seems very SC2 related rather then just typing on the computer or playing other games. I'm taking lots of supplements for my hands, and just trying/tried so many things for them. Anyway thanks for still having an interest in me even though I haven't released much information lately. I obviously still read TL all the time and love this community


Source?

No, in all seriousness, thanks for checking in on this thread. Shows a lot of character to step up and say "this is what's up" even if it isn't great news.

Wish you the best.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
July 06 2013 03:06 GMT
#27
GL SHETH! Hope your hands get better man!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
NoMicroWin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States688 Posts
July 06 2013 03:07 GMT
#28
On July 06 2013 12:00 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Hi guys. I wrote two more blogs that I didn't put up, because they just didn't feel quite right. I know I need to put out more information like "Well I'm retired" or "Its looking positive". But right now my hands just aren't at the point I can come back to play and honestly I'm scared to say I'm retired. Its a scary thing. I don't want to leave e-sports and I don't want to go into casting, but at the same time, my hands hurt way too much when I play sc2 to consider going back to it atm. I can play xbox games on a controller, or even a little of other games like League or Dota or whatever, but whenever I play even 2-3 games of SC2 my hands end up killing me that entire week.

I'd love to have had that fixed by now. Its been over 6 months sense I had this hand problem. However I guess things don't always go as planned. I'm going to start part time college shortly. I'm trying all I can to fix the hand problem, but its sad because I just don't have any great news. I still follow the scene as much as I can, and root for my team mates. As for diet, its still fairly similiar to my last blog, So nothing great on that front. Just in a place where I'm really sad about my hands, because SC2 was my life. And by no longer being able to play games, or go to events I kind of lost a lot of friends, or at least interaction with friends. So just going on and hoping in the future. If you have any questions I'll do my best to answer em here. Sorry its not great news, but not too much I can do with hands like this.

I will say over the past few months they've been getting better. For a week or two they've been feeling great, but then I played a few SC2 games and it went from no pain to lots of pain. So it seems very SC2 related rather then just typing on the computer or playing other games. I'm taking lots of supplements for my hands, and just trying/tried so many things for them. Anyway thanks for still having an interest in me even though I haven't released much information lately. I obviously still read TL all the time and love this community


Good to hear from ya buddy. Hope everything pans out the way you want it to, and it sucks that your pain keeps you from playing SC2. Good on ya mate.
If she pulls out her stalkers, you pull out your mauraders and concussive all over her tits
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 06 2013 03:07 GMT
#29
Awww man, stupid hands. Well, GL man. I wish you could borrow mine for play.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
July 06 2013 03:07 GMT
#30
Thanks Diamond <3
Thanks Hardly.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
soapyy.
Profile Joined October 2011
United States103 Posts
July 06 2013 03:07 GMT
#31
On July 06 2013 12:00 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Hi guys. I wrote two more blogs that I didn't put up, because they just didn't feel quite right. I know I need to put out more information like "Well I'm retired" or "Its looking positive". But right now my hands just aren't at the point I can come back to play and honestly I'm scared to say I'm retired. Its a scary thing. I don't want to leave e-sports and I don't want to go into casting, but at the same time, my hands hurt way too much when I play sc2 to consider going back to it atm. I can play xbox games on a controller, or even a little of other games like League or Dota or whatever, but whenever I play even 2-3 games of SC2 my hands end up killing me that entire week.

I'd love to have had that fixed by now. Its been over 6 months sense I had this hand problem. However I guess things don't always go as planned. I'm going to start part time college shortly. I'm trying all I can to fix the hand problem, but its sad because I just don't have any great news. I still follow the scene as much as I can, and root for my team mates. As for diet, its still fairly similiar to my last blog, So nothing great on that front. Just in a place where I'm really sad about my hands, because SC2 was my life. And by no longer being able to play games, or go to events I kind of lost a lot of friends, or at least interaction with friends. So just going on and hoping in the future. If you have any questions I'll do my best to answer em here. Sorry its not great news, but not too much I can do with hands like this.

I will say over the past few months they've been getting better. For a week or two they've been feeling great, but then I played a few SC2 games and it went from no pain to lots of pain. So it seems very SC2 related rather then just typing on the computer or playing other games. I'm taking lots of supplements for my hands, and just trying/tried so many things for them. Anyway thanks for still having an interest in me even though I haven't released much information lately. I obviously still read TL all the time and love this community

I really hope you get better sheth.. You are one of my favorite SC2 pros.. I remember when i met you at the Red Bull Lan in Orlando, It was so much fun.. Good luck man get better.
www.twitch.tv/sirsoapyy A little bit of soul train is in everyone.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
July 06 2013 03:09 GMT
#32
I hope you get better Need the manner bear back<3
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Khrey
Profile Joined April 2011
United States38 Posts
July 06 2013 03:11 GMT
#33
Nothing I can do but wish for the best of luck Sheth!!
Strike_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands704 Posts
July 06 2013 03:11 GMT
#34
Sheth I will donate my hands to u
Savagewood
Profile Joined June 2012
United States84 Posts
July 06 2013 03:12 GMT
#35
Sheth fighting!
"It turns out the game is a lot harder when you can't see the whole map."-IdrA, regarding his match against Spades.
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
July 06 2013 03:16 GMT
#36
i miss your stream mr.tooniceguy
Valon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States329 Posts
July 06 2013 03:16 GMT
#37
I hope they get better Sheth miss you and you're stream. Hopefully you can comeback. It's sad to lose another good zerg player (Idra and Stephano). Good luck in you college and hopefully you can figure out what's wrong with your hands. <3
Mzimzim
Profile Joined June 2011
United States221 Posts
July 06 2013 03:16 GMT
#38
Get robot hands like in irobot.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 06 2013 03:17 GMT
#39
yay sheth
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Keytar
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada156 Posts
July 06 2013 03:17 GMT
#40
I'm glad you're still around, Sheth! It's too bad hand pain is keeping you from what you love, and I hope you get better.
I try to be rage-free as I game. As you can imagine, this is difficult.
Archile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States403 Posts
July 06 2013 03:20 GMT
#41
What's important right now is that you focus on getting better; whether that means coming back to competitive sc2 or not, we your fans will always support you. If you do end up focusing on a career outside of esports, just promise us you'll come back to cast an event every once and a while ^^

Fighting~
Just a bad player trying to be a little less bad
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 03:21:00
July 06 2013 03:20 GMT
#42
I might be out of the loop but did your pain ever get diagnosed? I know I have dequervains and I have the option of getting surgery to release the sheath, I was under the impression Carpal tunnel also had the option of surgery, not sure if you have carpal or what though so I can't really speak.
heyLeaf
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2 Posts
July 06 2013 03:21 GMT
#43
Hopefully you recover soon Sheth! Best wishes.
emperok
Profile Joined September 2011
United States8 Posts
July 06 2013 03:24 GMT
#44
<3 Sheth. I want you to come back to SC2, but if it doesn't work out still <3 and I'm sure others feel the same.
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
July 06 2013 03:24 GMT
#45
Don't you worry Sheth, we will still cheer for you even if you'd make your comeback 2040 with the release of starcraft 3. Get well, recover and return when you are at full strength, just don't rush it please.
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
July 06 2013 03:27 GMT
#46
best of luck sheth!
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Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
July 06 2013 03:28 GMT
#47
On July 06 2013 12:20 Esoterikk wrote:
I might be out of the loop but did your pain ever get diagnosed? I know I have dequervains and I have the option of getting surgery to release the sheath, I was under the impression Carpal tunnel also had the option of surgery, not sure if you have carpal or what though so I can't really speak.



I've went to several doctors, who all have no idea. Anti-inflamatories seem to remove the pain. (pain killers remove the pain...) However they can't give me any other ideas or tips, other then I've been told "stop doing whatever your doing" .. So yea just assuming its RSI of some sort.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
July 06 2013 03:31 GMT
#48
can i ask why you said you didn't want to go into casting? do you just not enjoy it, or what? i saw you cast at IPL 5 and it was great!
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sLideSC2
Profile Joined July 2012
United States225 Posts
July 06 2013 03:31 GMT
#49
On July 06 2013 12:28 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 12:20 Esoterikk wrote:
I might be out of the loop but did your pain ever get diagnosed? I know I have dequervains and I have the option of getting surgery to release the sheath, I was under the impression Carpal tunnel also had the option of surgery, not sure if you have carpal or what though so I can't really speak.



I've went to several doctors, who all have no idea. Anti-inflamatories seem to remove the pain. (pain killers remove the pain...) However they can't give me any other ideas or tips, other then I've been told "stop doing whatever your doing" .. So yea just assuming its RSI of some sort.

find a good oxy dealer at a reasonable price and take them before you play
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Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
July 06 2013 03:38 GMT
#50
On July 06 2013 12:31 partydude89 wrote:
can i ask why you said you didn't want to go into casting? do you just not enjoy it, or what? i saw you cast at IPL 5 and it was great!


Ah I love casting. I'd love to do an event with casting. But just I don't want to do it full time is all. I'll want to stay in E-sports somehow someway regardless, but I just don't think it'll be by being a full time caster.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
threesxmafia
Profile Joined December 2010
United States131 Posts
July 06 2013 03:39 GMT
#51
good luck man, it's all about being comfortable. nerve damage and irritation is very tough to diagnose and deal with, it could be a severe spine problem, it could be just bad posture. good luck, i miss seeing your great attitude... train with tlo, be on that foreigner hope tip.
this is the only thing worth giving your life for. RIP TSL + RIP KT Violet
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
July 06 2013 03:40 GMT
#52
sheth pls
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 06 2013 03:41 GMT
#53
would like to see you come to an event before you retire ~_~
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Desiderium
Profile Joined May 2011
Belgium29 Posts
July 06 2013 03:45 GMT
#54
The hand thing sounds brutal, man. I really hope for your sake they'll get better and I hope college goes well for you too.
_Thrasher
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada56 Posts
July 06 2013 03:47 GMT
#55
On July 06 2013 12:00 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Hi guys. I wrote two more blogs that I didn't put up, because they just didn't feel quite right. I know I need to put out more information like "Well I'm retired" or "Its looking positive". But right now my hands just aren't at the point I can come back to play and honestly I'm scared to say I'm retired. Its a scary thing. I don't want to leave e-sports and I don't want to go into casting, but at the same time, my hands hurt way too much when I play sc2 to consider going back to it atm. I can play xbox games on a controller, or even a little of other games like League or Dota or whatever, but whenever I play even 2-3 games of SC2 my hands end up killing me that entire week.

I'd love to have had that fixed by now. Its been over 6 months sense I had this hand problem. However I guess things don't always go as planned. I'm going to start part time college shortly. I'm trying all I can to fix the hand problem, but its sad because I just don't have any great news. I still follow the scene as much as I can, and root for my team mates. As for diet, its still fairly similiar to my last blog, So nothing great on that front. Just in a place where I'm really sad about my hands, because SC2 was my life. And by no longer being able to play games, or go to events I kind of lost a lot of friends, or at least interaction with friends. So just going on and hoping in the future. If you have any questions I'll do my best to answer em here. Sorry its not great news, but not too much I can do with hands like this.

I will say over the past few months they've been getting better. For a week or two they've been feeling great, but then I played a few SC2 games and it went from no pain to lots of pain. So it seems very SC2 related rather then just typing on the computer or playing other games. I'm taking lots of supplements for my hands, and just trying/tried so many things for them. Anyway thanks for still having an interest in me even though I haven't released much information lately. I obviously still read TL all the time and love this community



First of all: Wow. You continue to amaze me,is it wrong to feel awesome to have gotten this response from you!?

This pretty much buries everything I was saying!

I sincerely hope you achieve everything you want; be that getting better in your hands, or passing all your classes (as im sure you will) and graduating to maybe pursue another career!

I just really wanted to know where you were at!
"NOL" - Bomber
_Thrasher
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada56 Posts
July 06 2013 03:50 GMT
#56
On July 06 2013 12:38 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 12:31 partydude89 wrote:
can i ask why you said you didn't want to go into casting? do you just not enjoy it, or what? i saw you cast at IPL 5 and it was great!


Ah I love casting. I'd love to do an event with casting. But just I don't want to do it full time is all. I'll want to stay in E-sports somehow someway regardless, but I just don't think it'll be by being a full time caster.


I would recommend contacting Husky and/or Day9, I am positive they would do a one shot commentary with you! maybe you can measure the response from there!
"NOL" - Bomber
FroSt_sc
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland21 Posts
July 06 2013 03:52 GMT
#57
Sheth, I would love to see you become the Bob Ross of Starcraft and start coaching.
frostalgia
Profile Joined March 2011
United States178 Posts
July 06 2013 03:55 GMT
#58
I broke one wrist and had carpal tunnel syndrome in the other.
Do lots of wrist stretches if you don't already, about every few hours.. maybe find something small and soft to squeeze.
even if not playing many games, it might help them get back some stamina quicker. Rest is still the best medicine of course.

Also, I believe TLO went though a wrist injury as well, maybe he would have some tips for changing positioning, etc.
All the best Sheth. Great to see you not giving up that easy.
we are all but shadows in the void
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
July 06 2013 03:56 GMT
#59
On July 06 2013 12:38 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 12:31 partydude89 wrote:
can i ask why you said you didn't want to go into casting? do you just not enjoy it, or what? i saw you cast at IPL 5 and it was great!


Ah I love casting. I'd love to do an event with casting. But just I don't want to do it full time is all. I'll want to stay in E-sports somehow someway regardless, but I just don't think it'll be by being a full time caster.


It would be great to see you cast in the meantime. I'm sure you would have no trouble becoming a community caster and just cast the odd tournament when you can. Keep positive man! Don't be a stranger
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Gwailo
Profile Joined July 2010
Argentina16 Posts
July 06 2013 03:57 GMT
#60
I hope you get better Sheth, and I think people all around the world hope it aswell. Take it easy man
EpicDemente
Profile Joined November 2012
Chile202 Posts
July 06 2013 04:03 GMT
#61
Sheth hope everything goes alright for you, you are much needed in this community than you thought!
"Fight your heart out for what you want"
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
July 06 2013 04:03 GMT
#62
Taking a break for this long is more or less a competitive death sentence given all the young, hungry talent and absurd levels of competition. But I hope Sheth comes back to cast and just be a general eSports personality.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 04:09:17
July 06 2013 04:04 GMT
#63
I had hand/wrist problems when I was young. As I've gotten older, I haven't had any, despite using my hands more.

What has always made my hands feel great is lifting. Particularly Power Cleans and Deadlifts doing 10+reps/set. That ache when you hands are telling you to put the bar down is glorious. You also might want to try some Barbell Complexes. Google Dan John for some good ones.

Finally, don't just stop playing Starcraft. A basic rule of recovery is to try to responsibly exercise your injured area. Play calmly for half or hour today and build up.

No, I'm not a doctor, and yes what worked for me is profoundly anecdotal, but you should at least try. It won't hurt you. You were always a top 10 foreigner! I always enjoyed rooting against you PvZ because I hated how effective you made your lings!~



HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
July 06 2013 04:09 GMT
#64
omg it suck so much. all my hopes to see sheth coming back are gone now.
@sheth have u tried shiatsu?
Calendaraka Foxhan
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
July 06 2013 04:11 GMT
#65
well now i feel sad at the state the world is in
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
July 06 2013 04:11 GMT
#66
On July 06 2013 13:09 HaN- wrote:
omg it suck so much. all my hopes to see sheth coming back are gone now.
@sheth have u tried shiatsu?


I've tried different hand massages. I don't think I've ever had that though, no.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
July 06 2013 04:13 GMT
#67
I miss you Sheth. You're one of the few Zergs I root for! I would love for you to come back soon and kick some ass but more importantly I wish you and your health the best.
_Thrasher
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada56 Posts
July 06 2013 04:15 GMT
#68
On July 06 2013 13:11 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 13:09 HaN- wrote:
omg it suck so much. all my hopes to see sheth coming back are gone now.
@sheth have u tried shiatsu?


I've tried different hand massages. I don't think I've ever had that though, no.


Sounds trolly! ignore trolls! good for health I hear!
"NOL" - Bomber
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
July 06 2013 04:15 GMT
#69
Thanks Airblade! I'm heading off to sleep now. Take care guys
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Ureth_RA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States78 Posts
July 06 2013 04:18 GMT
#70
Sheth mane. Hope you get better man, nobody streams as good as you do
Pein Is Love
DiuLaSing
Profile Joined August 2011
Hong Kong225 Posts
July 06 2013 04:23 GMT
#71
where is whitera?? where is alot people from WOL days...
"You just abuse idiocy" - bad boy
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
July 06 2013 04:26 GMT
#72
On July 06 2013 13:23 DiuLaSing wrote:
where is whitera?? where is alot people from WOL days...


He streams still. I'm pretty sure he was in a tournament recently too.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
July 06 2013 04:28 GMT
#73
Come back, Sheth ): There were points where he was the best American player, I miss those days.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
July 06 2013 04:28 GMT
#74
I think he plays a little bit, because I mean he is still on TL. But I think he is still recovering from his wrist injury, and I know he was trying to lose weight.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 04:31:39
July 06 2013 04:31 GMT
#75
You should definitely come back ^^
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
July 06 2013 04:32 GMT
#76
Have you tried playing SC2 with your xbox controller? There's that guy Cress who does it. I guess it would be a very different experience, but it may be a way to at least play a bit without the same pain. I'm not sure if someone can compete well in GM and pro level with it, but it's something...
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falcodevil
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15 Posts
July 06 2013 04:34 GMT
#77
i hope you have a good recovery and can come back in the future! I miss you man, it was good to hang out at MLGs and such. If you ever decide to stream some other game just for fun I'll still be there to MOD your channel
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 04:39:31
July 06 2013 04:37 GMT
#78
Oops wrong thread again..sigh..
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 04:39:14
July 06 2013 04:38 GMT
#79
I had really bad issues with my hands just like you. (The problem didn't arise unless I stressed them)

The solution I found was to do pull ups. Keep in mind there are no muscles in your hand. Just in your arm. By doing pull ups you both stretch your arm muscles and improve your endurance.

Door mounted pull up bars are $20 from walmart.
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Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 04:38:53
July 06 2013 04:38 GMT
#80
Sheth it's great to hear from you man, I miss seeing your cheery smile on stage and your wonderful demeanour <3

You mentioned "I can play on xbox controller..." - have you considered trying to see how you can go with an Xbox controller playing SC2? There was a fellow who was streaming SC2 using the xbox controller (I'll try dig up his stream) and he seemed to be doing quite nicely. At least; to a level that allowed him to comfortably play.

Obviously I know it's not going to really have the same control/power that a keyboard/mouse offers that would allow you to "win MLG" or something big like that - but if you were looking to stay in the scene and (for example) coach/stream/etc, it could be handy to at least have some potential way to play the game to show students/help teammates etc etc. From what I remember, the guy who played with the xbox was in masters on NA.

Here's the stream: http://www.twitch.tv/sc2cress
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
July 06 2013 04:40 GMT
#81
Hey Sheth don't worry, your fans will cheer for you no matter what you do! Good luck in everything, whatever everything may be. <3 :D
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
July 06 2013 04:43 GMT
#82
http://www.jointhealing.com/graphics/products/comfort_wrist_brace2_l.jpg

Get something like this, wear it to bed and when you are not playing SC2.

http://www.benik.com/images/adults/w-100.jpg
http://www.fieldsportsdirect.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1024x1024/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/l/p/lp-support-wrist-wrap-726.jpg

Get something like these to wear while playing on the computer. I have wrist problems and this stuff has done wonders for me.
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
July 06 2013 04:48 GMT
#83
On July 06 2013 11:16 KadaverBB wrote:
Actually I closed the other thread because it ended with terrible "source!?!" and "inb4" jokes. Leaving this open until posting becomes "meh" again

source?
Sc2 always got your back
_Thrasher
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada56 Posts
July 06 2013 04:51 GMT
#84
On July 06 2013 13:48 Conut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 11:16 KadaverBB wrote:
Actually I closed the other thread because it ended with terrible "source!?!" and "inb4" jokes. Leaving this open until posting becomes "meh" again

source?


Dont do that.

-.-
"NOL" - Bomber
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
July 06 2013 04:55 GMT
#85
On July 06 2013 13:51 _Thrasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 13:48 Conut wrote:
On July 06 2013 11:16 KadaverBB wrote:
Actually I closed the other thread because it ended with terrible "source!?!" and "inb4" jokes. Leaving this open until posting becomes "meh" again

source?


Dont do that.

-.-

how could i not, that last thread was to gosu for that to slide.
Sc2 always got your back
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 06 2013 05:00 GMT
#86
On July 06 2013 13:48 Conut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 11:16 KadaverBB wrote:
Actually I closed the other thread because it ended with terrible "source!?!" and "inb4" jokes. Leaving this open until posting becomes "meh" again

source?

That's a dark, dangerous road that I don't think many TL posters are willing to yet travel.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2633 Posts
July 06 2013 05:05 GMT
#87
Blizzard needs to invest some money into whatever company makes the best "safe" gaming peripherals. Starcraft is at the point where it's as competitive and dangerous as a real sport, but doesn't have the awareness to help protect the people.
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
July 06 2013 05:09 GMT
#88
On July 06 2013 14:05 Brutaxilos wrote:
Blizzard needs to invest some money into whatever company makes the best "safe" gaming peripherals. Starcraft is at the point where it's as competitive and dangerous as a real sport, but doesn't have the awareness to help protect the people.


Perhaps in the near future (next 5-10 years) eye-tracking technology will have reached a point where it's viable to play games competitively using it in some capacity. Or perhaps we'll just be able to plug our brains in directly

I can imagine there being a fuss over it though if that time ever comes, with the mouse/keyboard purists not wanting to give them up.
"See you space cowboy"
_Thrasher
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada56 Posts
July 06 2013 05:09 GMT
#89
On July 06 2013 14:05 Brutaxilos wrote:
Blizzard needs to invest some money into whatever company makes the best "safe" gaming peripherals. Starcraft is at the point where it's as competitive and dangerous as a real sport, but doesn't have the awareness to help protect the people.


This is thought provoking. I have to ask you. Why is that responsibility on Blizzard? The viewers make the money for tournaments. Shouldent we start this sort of program?
"NOL" - Bomber
_Thrasher
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada56 Posts
July 06 2013 05:33 GMT
#90
On July 06 2013 13:40 shizaep wrote:
Hey Sheth don't worry, your fans will cheer for you no matter what you do! Good luck in everything, whatever everything may be. <3 :D


Nothing but support to the die hard fans!

This is the attitude we need in Esports; Similar to sports; Less about winning more about being your team/roll player!
"NOL" - Bomber
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
July 06 2013 05:46 GMT
#91
Sheth, I miss your presence =(. Best of luck in getting and staying healthy!
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong747 Posts
July 06 2013 05:49 GMT
#92
On July 06 2013 12:00 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Hi guys. I wrote two more blogs that I didn't put up, because they just didn't feel quite right. I know I need to put out more information like "Well I'm retired" or "Its looking positive". But right now my hands just aren't at the point I can come back to play and honestly I'm scared to say I'm retired. Its a scary thing. I don't want to leave e-sports and I don't want to go into casting, but at the same time, my hands hurt way too much when I play sc2 to consider going back to it atm. I can play xbox games on a controller, or even a little of other games like League or Dota or whatever, but whenever I play even 2-3 games of SC2 my hands end up killing me that entire week.

I'd love to have had that fixed by now. Its been over 6 months sense I had this hand problem. However I guess things don't always go as planned. I'm going to start part time college shortly. I'm trying all I can to fix the hand problem, but its sad because I just don't have any great news. I still follow the scene as much as I can, and root for my team mates. As for diet, its still fairly similiar to my last blog, So nothing great on that front. Just in a place where I'm really sad about my hands, because SC2 was my life. And by no longer being able to play games, or go to events I kind of lost a lot of friends, or at least interaction with friends. So just going on and hoping in the future. If you have any questions I'll do my best to answer em here. Sorry its not great news, but not too much I can do with hands like this.

I will say over the past few months they've been getting better. For a week or two they've been feeling great, but then I played a few SC2 games and it went from no pain to lots of pain. So it seems very SC2 related rather then just typing on the computer or playing other games. I'm taking lots of supplements for my hands, and just trying/tried so many things for them. Anyway thanks for still having an interest in me even though I haven't released much information lately. I obviously still read TL all the time and love this community


aw, that was disheartening to read, hope you get better soon Sheth!!

I'm just curious about one thing though, sorry if its ignorant, but is it possible that the posture in which you play (keyboard on your lap) just isn't good for the hands?
freakhill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Japan463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 05:57:15
July 06 2013 05:54 GMT
#93
@Liquid'Sheth : I hang around with dancers a lot, and these guys tend to have tons of physical injuries.
From the parallel stuff what tends to work quite well is:
- Acupuncture/Shiatsu (only a few places, and apparently it hurts quite a lot when they do it).
- Yoga stretch/breathing exercises (really long term), but that might not help you :/
- Hot stone massage for reduction of scar tissue (might have some sheath of scar tissue hanging around nerves it shouldn't, dunno)
Also, mental state seems to be really important so I would advise you to get involved into something quick (casting, or shows for noobs or advanced people, or deep replay analysis show, dunno).
These things helped people I personally know with spine problems, articulation problems, surgery problems etc.
Myself for my dance practice induced pains (still quite mild) I often go for swedish massage and electric massage. I will go try hot stone massage for some scar tissue problems.
I had had hand nerves problems but nothing that bad that a few weeks/month of taping and being careful + occasional electric massage wouldn't resolve it.
moo ForGG, Dragon, MVP, Gumiho, DRG, PartinG, Life]0[!
Calexanich
Profile Joined September 2011
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 06:20:11
July 06 2013 06:13 GMT
#94
NOOOT_T i hope everything works out and your hands start getting better, it'll suck to have my favorite player retire but gotta do what you gotta do i hope u find something that helps
drones=lobsters...fuzzy fuzzy lobsters with wings
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
July 06 2013 06:19 GMT
#95
I miss Sheth As a player (nowhere near as good) who had to switch away from Starcraft because of hand issues, it's really sad to see a player who the game meant so much more to also have to give it up.
Anything is Possible
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
July 06 2013 06:21 GMT
#96
Best of luck in your recovery! Hope to see you back in the scene soon, it could be a little more positive.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45437 Posts
July 06 2013 06:23 GMT
#97
I miss Sheth Manner bear ftw!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FlattLine
Profile Joined January 2011
80 Posts
July 06 2013 06:28 GMT
#98
Sheth,
You gotta move on. Your hands are only gonna get worse without surgery. Even if you were to get it, you probably shouldn't be a full time SC2 pro afterwards. Why invest so much of your life in an esport dominated by Koreans? Look out for yourself, brother.
ghosthunter
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
July 06 2013 06:33 GMT
#99
Sheth,
I was actually looking just this week to see what's been up with you as are one of my favorite personalities no question. I've actually drawn inspiration from your weight loss goals to power my own (15 down, 50 more to go haha). Having suffered from chronic shoulder pain as well, I can understand how awful it must feel, but I'm sure it'll work out. Keep trying to be as positive as you can and I'll keep cheering for you in all you do!
juicy
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia145 Posts
July 06 2013 06:35 GMT
#100
Very sad to hear, I have been following Sheth for years, never really posted anywhere though.

Great guy, great player, all the best for the future, lovable sheth
budar
Profile Joined February 2011
175 Posts
July 06 2013 06:44 GMT
#101
Good luck man, really hoping things work out for you in the end.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
July 06 2013 06:51 GMT
#102
Didn't Sheth randomly disappear from the Brood War scene a lot cause his mother wanted him to go to church or something?
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Muecke
Profile Joined July 2013
Germany150 Posts
July 06 2013 06:55 GMT
#103
When someone is that fat, he obviously has more important thing to do than gaming!
NoMicroWin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States688 Posts
July 06 2013 06:57 GMT
#104
On July 06 2013 15:55 Muecke wrote:
When someone is that fat, he obviously has more important thing to do than gaming!

And outttttttttttttttttta here!
If she pulls out her stalkers, you pull out your mauraders and concussive all over her tits
Muecke
Profile Joined July 2013
Germany150 Posts
July 06 2013 07:00 GMT
#105
No offense, but he is fat...

User was temp banned for this post.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45437 Posts
July 06 2013 07:01 GMT
#106
On July 06 2013 15:55 Muecke wrote:
When someone is that fat, he obviously has more important thing to do than gaming!


Making fun of Sheth is like kicking a puppy.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
July 06 2013 07:05 GMT
#107
It's possible to both game and lose weight: in fact a large part of sheth's first blog was bout his struggle with weight and attempt to overcome it.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
July 06 2013 07:07 GMT
#108
Sheth, no matter what you're still my favorite SC2 player of all time.

Hope everything works out well for you, and will always be rooting for you. GL mannerbear!
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 07:10:58
July 06 2013 07:10 GMT
#109
Yeah I hate threads like this, they remind me to miss Sheth.

He's such a friendly and brilliant player, I hope he comes back.
^O^
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1777 Posts
July 06 2013 07:29 GMT
#110
He's on Team Liquid. About a secure job as possible. You can perform years without results too without any repurrepercussions. I would too take advantage of the system he earned himself into.
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
July 06 2013 07:37 GMT
#111
I too would lov e to know whats up with sheth, mind updating op with an eventual response?
Pwnzer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States617 Posts
July 06 2013 07:37 GMT
#112
Sheth is it possible that the way you keep your keyboard on your lap might cause some of your wrist issues? Maybe altering your posture in a way that causes discomfort? Also even if you do t go to the gym and get super fit would a few simple forearm, wrist, and hand excercises help? I would imagine strengthening your forearms would be crazy beneficial for any progamer.
Herp Derp
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 07:38:51
July 06 2013 07:37 GMT
#113
On July 06 2013 16:29 ssg wrote:
He's on Team Liquid. About a secure job as possible. You can perform years without results too without any repurrepercussions. I would too take advantage of the system he earned himself into.


He's not taking advantage of the situation. in his blog saying he was taking a break, i think he said Liquid Nazgul offered to give him a salary but Sheth kept saying he didn't have to. And I may not be the biggest Team liquid fan, but even i can admit that slamming their players won't get you anywhere. TLO didn't have a lot of results, stepped up his game for hots, and is on fire now. Zenio has defeated amazing Zergs in proleague. Good to know that you would take advantage of another persons kindness, but thats NOT what sheth is doing.
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partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 07:38:38
July 06 2013 07:38 GMT
#114
-double post-
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Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
July 06 2013 07:46 GMT
#115
Hi Sheth, have you considered doing exercises for your hands to increase strength? I´ve heard that for some that helps
Anyways, hope you get better and come back to rock the scene with a keyboard in your lap once again!
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
StatixEx
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United Kingdom779 Posts
July 06 2013 07:58 GMT
#116
slow ramp man! You have to take what you did and literally quarter it and play like that, its hard cos you know you can play faster, condition will improve over time . . . but you gotta give it time. as for the weight, 20 mins in morning and night everyday day of walking/jogging/swimming which ever you want ull see good results in 30 days . . BUT YOU MUST NOT STOP!!! k
keeping moving at all costs. Those are the costs!
PrioRi
Profile Joined June 2012
Switzerland21 Posts
July 06 2013 08:33 GMT
#117
I wish you all the best Sheth, take care <3
I'm looking forward to seeing you smile, whether as player, caster or whatever eoad you're going to take.
Fighting!
It's not who you are underneath - it's what you do that defines you.
Hellboy.100
Profile Joined June 2011
Slovenia135 Posts
July 06 2013 08:40 GMT
#118
Sheth, i think you have two options if you want to return to esports, either you become a caster or some other role that would keep you there. I'm sure you would find something ! But if u want to ever be a player again, you need to loose weight and strenghten your wrists and arms, get yourself a personal trainer that will know what kind of exercise you should do, to not end up more injured as you did when you tried by yourself. You do not have the proper knowledge on how to do it nor does the doctors, but believe me, getting stronger might be the one thing, that will help you doing what you love again. What you need is a lot of will and belief in yourself! And from the eating part, only thing you need to stop is sweets, sweety drinks, junk food and really fatty food. If you exercise, just not eating such foods along with proper exercise (again i'm positive you need a personal trainer for this to be successful) and you can get lean, strong and back to progaming! Also you have to realize, if you succeed, what you don't want is to go back to your old habits once you do. If you succeed, it has to become somewhat of a lifestyle change for you ! I really hope you take some advice, no pills, no doctors will help you more than just eating somewhat right and doing guided exercise that will not injure you, but slowly improve. Once you will start seeing results, you will not want to go back, trust me
Honner
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom65 Posts
July 06 2013 08:49 GMT
#119
I remember watching this guys stream while he competed in a playhem tournament. It was fascinating to watch his progress from his POV and his thoughts going through the tournament and he had a really friendly attitude with his viewers. Probably one of the most interesting and informative user streams I have seen.

Hope I will get the opportunity to watch him compete again some day.

GL Sheth!
Sjokola
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands800 Posts
July 06 2013 10:01 GMT
#120
I hope you feel that we still love you Sheth!

I hope you read this. Because it sound familiar in a way. I can play with a controller but starcraft hurts me a lot. How are things like doing the dishes or preparing food for you?

I've have a sirious arm injury myself. I was studying to become a professional drummer when I got a lot of pain in my arms. It first got missdiagnosed as an overburdening by a cesar therapist. She helped me a lot (together with a fysio therapist) on hoe to relax and play drums correctly. But I started playing to soon twice and got a lot of pain again twice. And not just in my arm but from my neck to wrists in both arms. Eventhough the injury was just in my right arm.

Every one I know gave me differennt advice on what to do and who to see. It made me do none of these because the all told me. "No one could help but this guy fixed everything in a flash."

Last year I went to a hospital to see a orthopedic surgeon (because my ex didn't stop nagging, she practically saved me). He did a lot of research (also send me to a neuro surgeon). After everything was inconclusive he send me to the Hague, to a special poli clinic which specialises in dancers and musicians. He was also a orthopedic surgeon and he told me he agreed with the other surgeon. Radial tunnel syndrome (very similar to carpal tunnel syndrome) and a tennis arm. And for the first time I really feel like it matches how I feel and why some things hurt and others don't.

And after three years of injury and crushes dreams I'm starting in the third year of the Rock acadamy in september. And I'm being very careful.


Tldr: The reason I am telling you this (it became a lot longer than I intended) is because computer gaming and music injuries have in common that it has to do with repeating small movements, posture and technique. Maybe you can find someone who specialises in musicians and even better someone who's also docter/surgeon.

Ps. Sorry it became so long. And I'm on my phone so if you see some spelling or grammar mistakes please pm me. (Or if someone has questions.)
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2013 10:02 GMT
#121
Wrist problems killing Esports.
Hope you can come back to SC2 but if not, I hope your wrist heal fully no matter what.
I had a good night of sleep.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 06 2013 10:31 GMT
#122
Just wanted to say how awesome you are Sheth and I hope your hands will get better in the future! Just know that the community loves you and we'll not forget you, so just take your time and come back whenever it feels right . Also nice questions on the e-sports AMA, great to see that you still follow everything actively.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
July 06 2013 10:37 GMT
#123
I you want to see more Sheth, he was in at least one episode of E-Sports Mafia recently, maybe more.

100% Town.
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Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
July 06 2013 10:46 GMT
#124
Thanks Sheth for letting us know. Sad to hear about the hands. Maybe surgery is in order? Good luck on the part-time college. Perhaps commit to Dota 2, and perhaps create a team of retired pros of TL with a road to TI4-5. Sending you positive energy.
LiangHao
IcookTacos
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden295 Posts
July 06 2013 10:47 GMT
#125
It always hurt's when people as nice as Sheth end up in these situations.

I hope you find what you want to do from now on, and I wish you lot's of success with whatever that is!
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oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
July 06 2013 10:51 GMT
#126
Hoping for the best though
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
July 06 2013 10:53 GMT
#127
Hope you'll get better soon Sheth.

It's a tough moment when you're not able to do pretty much everything you're life was about, and it's hard to admit that you need to do another thing if there's not enough hope... But an intelligent and nice guy like you will always find a good and pleasant way of life, no matter what.

GL HF

(Beside the fact that it is you, I'm quite pissed that health issues prevent a player who could have been like top 5 foreigner to play.)
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
venomium
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands245 Posts
July 06 2013 11:15 GMT
#128
♥ GL and get well Sheth! ♥
" I think we finally found the magic number of guns needed to be pointed at the TL hive mind to deter sexual molestation (9)" -Coagulation
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 13:48:04
July 06 2013 13:46 GMT
#129
My mom had the same kind of hand issues for a long time. In the end the only thing that helped was getting surgery on her carpal tunnels where they widen the nerve tunnel near the wrist of each hand so that the nerves no longer get compressed as much. This helped remove inflammation and pain and now she can use her hands again.

It will take some time for the hands to heal from that kind of surgery, but it could be something you might want to go for after such a long time of being in pain and not being able to do what you enjoy. All the best, Sheth!
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Nineball
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway163 Posts
July 06 2013 13:57 GMT
#130
As a massagetherapist I would so love to get a look on those wrists. Ive had some results with wristpains.. Come to Norway, Sheth!

Hope you figure it out and get better. I do miss you <3
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
July 06 2013 15:14 GMT
#131
So I now use good posture and have for a bit to those of you who suggested that. I've talked with TLO and hes been a tremendous help. (Nazgul too ofc) Its not Carpal Tunnel, oh how I wish I could just get a surgery and it'd go away. Its something the doctors don't know, some sort of RSI I'm guessing. And I've went to specialists to just get the "I don't know answer" XD
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Parsistamon
Profile Joined July 2010
United States390 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 15:18:46
July 06 2013 15:18 GMT
#132
Sheth, have you considered possible psychosomatic causes? It sounds like its very much associated to starcraft. Though I don't doubt starcraft is much harder mechanically than the other games, this seems a bit strange. If nothing else is working, try a therapist!

wishing you a speedy recovery
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
July 06 2013 15:43 GMT
#133
Thanks for the update Sheth! I really hope you don't feel guilty about not being able to play and there are a lot of people eagerly waiting and hoping that you will recover and be able to play again whenever that happens. It must really be frustrating not to be able to play and enjoy your passion, but your fans are cheering for you and rooting for you even when you can't pick up that mouse!
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
July 06 2013 15:59 GMT
#134
It's a shame to hear that he is still struggling with his hands. Sheath was such a good player when he still played and I'd be overjoyed by his return!
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stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
July 06 2013 16:07 GMT
#135
tbqh his terrible practice of sitting his keyboard on his lap is one of the main reasons he cant play IMO
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 16:07:45
July 06 2013 16:07 GMT
#136
On July 06 2013 12:00 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Hi guys. I wrote two more blogs that I didn't put up, because they just didn't feel quite right. I know I need to put out more information like "Well I'm retired" or "Its looking positive". But right now my hands just aren't at the point I can come back to play and honestly I'm scared to say I'm retired. Its a scary thing. I don't want to leave e-sports and I don't want to go into casting, but at the same time, my hands hurt way too much when I play sc2 to consider going back to it atm. I can play xbox games on a controller, or even a little of other games like League or Dota or whatever, but whenever I play even 2-3 games of SC2 my hands end up killing me that entire week.

I'd love to have had that fixed by now. Its been over 6 months sense I had this hand problem. However I guess things don't always go as planned. I'm going to start part time college shortly. I'm trying all I can to fix the hand problem, but its sad because I just don't have any great news. I still follow the scene as much as I can, and root for my team mates. As for diet, its still fairly similiar to my last blog, So nothing great on that front. Just in a place where I'm really sad about my hands, because SC2 was my life. And by no longer being able to play games, or go to events I kind of lost a lot of friends, or at least interaction with friends. So just going on and hoping in the future. If you have any questions I'll do my best to answer em here. Sorry its not great news, but not too much I can do with hands like this.

I will say over the past few months they've been getting better. For a week or two they've been feeling great, but then I played a few SC2 games and it went from no pain to lots of pain. So it seems very SC2 related rather then just typing on the computer or playing other games. I'm taking lots of supplements for my hands, and just trying/tried so many things for them. Anyway thanks for still having an interest in me even though I haven't released much information lately. I obviously still read TL all the time and love this community


Dude don't be silly man you won't lose any friends or fans from the community just cause you aren't playing at the moment. Your health&happiness should always be your #1 priority and anyone who is a fan/friend of your's will 100% understand that. The only reason people ask where you are is because they actually have the time in their day to CARE about someone they may have never even met before. This is something that very few people in the world can say that thousands of people they may have never met in their life actually care about them.

Take care Sheth and do what ya got to do.
JD, need I say more? :D
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
July 06 2013 16:19 GMT
#137
I hope someone finds a solution for your problems. All the best for you and I am sure, most people will cheer for you and won't forget you easily!
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
Renegade9x
Profile Joined November 2010
United States13 Posts
July 06 2013 16:23 GMT
#138
We miss you Sheth. You were the sole reason I got into watching streams!
Why run? You're only going to die tired.
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
July 06 2013 16:38 GMT
#139
Maybe pain is because Sheth uses keyboard in strange way - on his lap? So his hand is in uncomfortable position
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
July 06 2013 16:44 GMT
#140
I miss Sheth too. :'(
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
July 06 2013 16:48 GMT
#141
Fucking wrists
I really hope that in the future progamers will be able to go to a doctor that actually knows everything about pro gaming and the wrist issue that can come from it so we can see players being treated asap.

You tried no longer using the sheth board? That kinda looks like it shouldn't be good for your hands.
Solidrain
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany6 Posts
July 06 2013 16:50 GMT
#142
On July 07 2013 00:18 Parsistamon wrote:
Sheth, have you considered possible psychosomatic causes? It sounds like its very much associated to starcraft. Though I don't doubt starcraft is much harder mechanically than the other games, this seems a bit strange. If nothing else is working, try a therapist!

wishing you a speedy recovery


This is a really good advice. Starcraft is the more stressful game, especially if you have a competitive background. Stress can trigger a lot of old pain, which is somatically healed but your brain memorized the experience of pain.

I dont know, how it is in the US. In Germany there is a distinction between medical and psychological psychotherapists and I would definitely recommend a medical psychotherapist with specialisation in psychosomatic medicine.

I really hope you get well soon, Sheth!
Ambre
Profile Joined July 2011
France416 Posts
July 06 2013 17:00 GMT
#143
Sad to read this =(

I hope you get better !
"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self." - Aldous Huxley
GgfOu
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada2 Posts
July 06 2013 17:08 GMT
#144
Its great to hear from you Sheth! I really hope that your hands and every get better soon!! I think if you're able to play games with an xbox or ps3 controller you should try and stream some play through's of some games, so we can see you again! I'm personally a huge fan and would watch you no matter what game you played!
Hope all goes well and good luck with every! ~Big fan and lots of love! <3
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DruidzHistory
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 17:10:18
July 06 2013 17:09 GMT
#145
On July 06 2013 12:00 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Hi guys. I wrote two more blogs that I didn't put up, because they just didn't feel quite right. I know I need to put out more information like "Well I'm retired" or "Its looking positive". But right now my hands just aren't at the point I can come back to play and honestly I'm scared to say I'm retired. Its a scary thing. I don't want to leave e-sports and I don't want to go into casting, but at the same time, my hands hurt way too much when I play sc2 to consider going back to it atm. I can play xbox games on a controller, or even a little of other games like League or Dota or whatever, but whenever I play even 2-3 games of SC2 my hands end up killing me that entire week.

I'd love to have had that fixed by now. Its been over 6 months sense I had this hand problem. However I guess things don't always go as planned. I'm going to start part time college shortly. I'm trying all I can to fix the hand problem, but its sad because I just don't have any great news. I still follow the scene as much as I can, and root for my team mates. As for diet, its still fairly similiar to my last blog, So nothing great on that front. Just in a place where I'm really sad about my hands, because SC2 was my life. And by no longer being able to play games, or go to events I kind of lost a lot of friends, or at least interaction with friends. So just going on and hoping in the future. If you have any questions I'll do my best to answer em here. Sorry its not great news, but not too much I can do with hands like this.

I will say over the past few months they've been getting better. For a week or two they've been feeling great, but then I played a few SC2 games and it went from no pain to lots of pain. So it seems very SC2 related rather then just typing on the computer or playing other games. I'm taking lots of supplements for my hands, and just trying/tried so many things for them. Anyway thanks for still having an interest in me even though I haven't released much information lately. I obviously still read TL all the time and love this community


Maybe its psychosomatic - have you tried a psychologist?

Edit: someone was quicker
DeathSoror
Profile Joined March 2010
United States122 Posts
July 06 2013 17:47 GMT
#146
So I'm definitely not a doctor, but along the lines of psychosomatic, I have heard of writers and athletes having focal dystonia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focal_dystonia

The example I heard of was Scott Adams, the guy who draws Dilbert. The very specific action of drawing with his right hand with a real pen caused problems (he switched to draw left-handed to get around it).

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/cartoonlounge/2008/10/scott-adams-dilbert.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/09/AR2005050901066.html

Just something to consider and consult with real doctors about, possibly, if it sounds similar to your circumstance.
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ZashGamer
Profile Joined January 2012
Faroe Islands4 Posts
July 07 2013 00:51 GMT
#147
Very nice to hear from you Sheth. Miss your streams and all. Hope you get well soon. <3
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
July 07 2013 01:02 GMT
#148
Sheth fighting!
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-07 01:33:31
July 07 2013 01:33 GMT
#149
On July 07 2013 10:02 -niL wrote:
Sheth fighting!

Sheth Hwaiting~~
User was warned for too many mimes.
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
July 07 2013 01:47 GMT
#150
Have you tried a physical therapist, Sheth? When I was having wrist and hand pain the doctor I saw kept telling me it was carpal tunnel and wanted to do an MRI. With that being incredibly expensive, I declined and asked if there was something else I could do, so they sent me to a P.T. When I went, it took the P.T. less than 5 minutes to tell me it wasn't carpal tunnel but rather stretched nerves. Since then, I have had almost zero issues (maybe once a month my wrists hurt for a few hours).

Good luck with your weight loss and wrists. Hopefully, we will see you competing again.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
July 07 2013 09:22 GMT
#151
On July 07 2013 01:07 LimeNade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 12:00 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Hi guys. I wrote two more blogs that I didn't put up, because they just didn't feel quite right. I know I need to put out more information like "Well I'm retired" or "Its looking positive". But right now my hands just aren't at the point I can come back to play and honestly I'm scared to say I'm retired. Its a scary thing. I don't want to leave e-sports and I don't want to go into casting, but at the same time, my hands hurt way too much when I play sc2 to consider going back to it atm. I can play xbox games on a controller, or even a little of other games like League or Dota or whatever, but whenever I play even 2-3 games of SC2 my hands end up killing me that entire week.

I'd love to have had that fixed by now. Its been over 6 months sense I had this hand problem. However I guess things don't always go as planned. I'm going to start part time college shortly. I'm trying all I can to fix the hand problem, but its sad because I just don't have any great news. I still follow the scene as much as I can, and root for my team mates. As for diet, its still fairly similiar to my last blog, So nothing great on that front. Just in a place where I'm really sad about my hands, because SC2 was my life. And by no longer being able to play games, or go to events I kind of lost a lot of friends, or at least interaction with friends. So just going on and hoping in the future. If you have any questions I'll do my best to answer em here. Sorry its not great news, but not too much I can do with hands like this.

I will say over the past few months they've been getting better. For a week or two they've been feeling great, but then I played a few SC2 games and it went from no pain to lots of pain. So it seems very SC2 related rather then just typing on the computer or playing other games. I'm taking lots of supplements for my hands, and just trying/tried so many things for them. Anyway thanks for still having an interest in me even though I haven't released much information lately. I obviously still read TL all the time and love this community


Dude don't be silly man you won't lose any friends or fans from the community just cause you aren't playing at the moment. Your health&happiness should always be your #1 priority and anyone who is a fan/friend of your's will 100% understand that. The only reason people ask where you are is because they actually have the time in their day to CARE about someone they may have never even met before. This is something that very few people in the world can say that thousands of people they may have never met in their life actually care about them.

Take care Sheth and do what ya got to do.
It is a emotional response of feeling sidelined(and perhaps less relevant), and due to the wrists not being able to interact live with other gamers/community.

I would feel the same, even with such a great and supportive community.
LiangHao
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
July 07 2013 09:46 GMT
#152
We miss ya, dude. Don't be afraid to keep sayin' hey, even if it's just "No news, just chillin, hands hurt, sucks the d". You still have fans for more than just your play, don't think otherwise.

Hope everything starts to sort itself out, take care dude!
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
ZergX
Profile Joined October 2010
France436 Posts
July 07 2013 09:52 GMT
#153
Liquid Sheth fighting! Hope you come back asap : )
Nestea fightingg ! DRG fightingggg !! Sen fightinggg ! July fighting ! SoO fighting !
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
July 08 2013 17:07 GMT
#154
Sheth,

You're a wonderful guy to watch play and your commentary was always especially helpful to me!

I hope you take the time you need to heal and reflect
NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
July 08 2013 17:18 GMT
#155
Good to hear from you again Sheth. I hope your wrists get better soon, I've always liked to cheer for you
Some times you just gotta wish...
Calexanich
Profile Joined September 2011
United States52 Posts
July 08 2013 19:25 GMT
#156
On July 07 2013 02:08 GgfOu wrote:
Its great to hear from you Sheth! I really hope that your hands and every get better soon!! I think if you're able to play games with an xbox or ps3 controller you should try and stream some play through's of some games, so we can see you again! I'm personally a huge fan and would watch you no matter what game you played!
Hope all goes well and good luck with every! ~Big fan and lots of love! <3


indeed i hear a sheth stream makes everyone's day a happy day ^_^. Hope the wrist thing finds a solution soon, so u can all kill some teams again ya know Sheth Fighting!!!!!
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19322 Posts
July 08 2013 19:33 GMT
#157
Thanks for the response Sheth. You mentioned being good with the xbox controller and there is this dude on TL who plays with the xbox controller. Maybe you can play with that too sometimes just so we can see you again. As always <3!
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
July 08 2013 19:33 GMT
#158
On July 07 2013 10:33 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 10:02 -niL wrote:
Sheth fighting!

Sheth Hwaiting~~

Sheth~~
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
July 08 2013 19:53 GMT
#159
On July 09 2013 04:33 BisuDagger wrote:
Thanks for the response Sheth. You mentioned being good with the xbox controller and there is this dude on TL who plays with the xbox controller. Maybe you can play with that too sometimes just so we can see you again. As always <3!


Probably hard to play at the same level, though.

Sheth is going through something that happens to all athletes, and it can be pretty depressing. However, the community loves Sheth for more than his in-game performance (Manner Bear! :3), so there's no reason we can't see him coaching and casting soon. I personally hope that if he can't rehab his hands, that he's able to transition into a coach/caster/community figurehead role. My first hope is that he gets whatever he wishes, though.
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tokinho
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States792 Posts
July 09 2013 04:33 GMT
#160
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 06 2013 12:00 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Hi guys. I wrote two more blogs that I didn't put up, because they just didn't feel quite right. I know I need to put out more information like "Well I'm retired" or "Its looking positive". But right now my hands just aren't at the point I can come back to play and honestly I'm scared to say I'm retired. Its a scary thing. I don't want to leave e-sports and I don't want to go into casting, but at the same time, my hands hurt way too much when I play sc2 to consider going back to it atm. I can play xbox games on a controller, or even a little of other games like League or Dota or whatever, but whenever I play even 2-3 games of SC2 my hands end up killing me that entire week.

I'd love to have had that fixed by now. Its been over 6 months sense I had this hand problem. However I guess things don't always go as planned. I'm going to start part time college shortly. I'm trying all I can to fix the hand problem, but its sad because I just don't have any great news. I still follow the scene as much as I can, and root for my team mates. As for diet, its still fairly similiar to my last blog, So nothing great on that front. Just in a place where I'm really sad about my hands, because SC2 was my life. And by no longer being able to play games, or go to events I kind of lost a lot of friends, or at least interaction with friends. So just going on and hoping in the future. If you have any questions I'll do my best to answer em here. Sorry its not great news, but not too much I can do with hands like this.

I will say over the past few months they've been getting better. For a week or two they've been feeling great, but then I played a few SC2 games and it went from no pain to lots of pain. So it seems very SC2 related rather then just typing on the computer or playing other games. I'm taking lots of supplements for my hands, and just trying/tried so many things for them. Anyway thanks for still having an interest in me even though I haven't released much information lately. I obviously still read TL all the time and love this community


We love you sheth!!!
Smile
Ry2D2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States429 Posts
July 09 2013 04:48 GMT
#161
Sheth!! <3
Get better soon, or we will constantly pester you about your condition :D
Artunit
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Philippines400 Posts
July 09 2013 05:06 GMT
#162
Hey I hope you get your hands healed Chosen! It will be nice to see you back and I believe you can make it, don't lose hope!
NrT.Artunit
FosTA
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada154 Posts
July 09 2013 21:53 GMT
#163
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/ChanmanV
Sheth is live now on ChanmanV stream.
FosTA | LgN - Pulse - LYGF - MgZ - Exist |StarCraft Manager
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
July 09 2013 21:58 GMT
#164
Sheth <3 I hope you'll get better soon!
Rusty Eyeballs
Profile Joined January 2012
United States30 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 10:49:59
July 10 2013 10:45 GMT
#165
Book marked this a while ago because I thought someone might find this interesting.
http://www.ionline.pt/artigos/iciencia/novo-tratamento-da-sindrome-tunel-carpo-taxa-sucesso-proxima-dos-100

The title is "New Treatment of Carpal Tunnel Syndrome with a success rate close to 100%" It's in Portuguese, but if you're using Google Chrome, you can easily translate it. If not, you can copy past the whole thing into translate.google.com

GL with what decide is best.
To do the same thing over and over again and expect different results is insanity.
Mallidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland557 Posts
July 10 2013 11:09 GMT
#166
This is all just a big cover up. If you read between the lines....

Sheth has actually ran away with Kerrigan (hot damn, she's real what?) and they are busy making billions of little human baneling babies in a diabolical plot to overthrow humanity (Terran). This new Sheth/Kerrigan crossbread is so powerful that the banelings can fly. Yes that's right folks, flying banelings... (bit like the scourge, anyone remember those? I think Blizz forgot about them). Be afraid, be very afraid!

This whole situation might be a bit weird and maybe not quite up Sheth's street (tentacles and spines in the bedroom aint everyone's cup of tea), but he's vowed do anything it takes to destroy the Terran disease once and for all.

The only reason his wrist actually might hurt right now, is him paying too much attention to Kerrigans needs while the rest of him is too tired and maybe he's grabbing a bite to eat. Kerrigan's needs are great folks, and he's willing to help...

And you all thought he was a 'nice guy'... Mwah ha ha ha ha ha! FOOLS!
Bleh.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 15 2013 20:39 GMT
#167
Sheth why no TLMafia?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
July 16 2013 15:49 GMT
#168
He's playing League atm with Destiny
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Aiobhill
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany283 Posts
July 16 2013 15:57 GMT
#169
Such a classy guy. Wishing you all the best!
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MostGroce
Profile Joined April 2011
United States104 Posts
July 19 2013 04:19 GMT
#170
Sucks!!!! Always rooted for Sheth more than any other.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 19 2013 04:39 GMT
#171
He plays LoL with Destiny pretty often these days.
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