WCS AM Season 2 to be run by NASL and Blizzard - Page 21

On June 19 2013 19:08 Gr33d wrote:
I like how TB writes that it was more like Blizzard putting a gun to MLGs head and said: "Make this tournament! And you HAVE to include koreans!". That does not make *any* sense, especially if NASL would actually want to run the WCS. Or are they just keen to burn some money?
Blizzard provided most (if not all) of the money, flew the players over, had to negotiate with atleast four different companies and they want more people *buying* the game (viewership and exposure in growing markets, they don't care about sonsors).
In addition MLG did only have to host ONE online qualifier and the offline event was played in their office rooms which they pay for anyway.

Now, SC2 is not big in the korean market, the EU/US events get the highest amount of viewers, even if no korean participates. I think, from a tournament organisators point, it would make more sense to push for some koreans in "your" region, to advertise with a big name. It would make more sense to force mostly online no region lock play (And whoever thinks we will get any offline daily event is just delusional. WCS will STAY online in the west).
They could have said no, we will just produce Tier 1 like events, but maybe their egos got too big and they thought that as somekind premium esport brand in the US, it had to be them. In the end, they screwed up big time, not because blizzard, no, because of their own incompetence.
Look at the WCS finals or the current Season 2 in korea. Completely utter shit events. Blizzards fault? I would say no, its two rival broadcasting companies trying to fuck each other over as much as possible. They even changed the format in the middle of WCS, for one region only (and it will most likely switch back again in season 3).

I guess WCS will ultimately fail if they don't concentrate on improving the coordination with the broadcasters or take matters in their own hands. Afterall, IF you see some SC2 and all you see is koreans roflstomping each other because the only local heroes are eliminated alltogether, casted in some office with no excitement (or in an empty studio with a goddam DJ in your back.. WTF Gom?), you would not think "Hey, that looks great, lets buy this!". You would say "Nah, lets switch channel" and quit watching.

On June 19 2013 20:05 Doodsmack wrote:
I certainly trust your word more than TB's here. Especially when you're arguing from conjecture ("Blizzard provided most if not all of the money and it didn't cost MLG much trust m e bro they just threw a stream up on the screen after all lolol"), and an insider would have access to actual information. Coupled with some exaggerated negativity...yeah you pretty much couldn't have written a more worthless post bud.

On June 19 2013 02:03 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I've always felt like MLG excels at running big events with a lot of budget (in case you think that this is obvious/easy - you're wrong). It takes a lot of skill to do this and they have mastered it throughout the years. They are legitimately good at what they do with their events when they go all out. However when things are on a lower budget it seems that ESL/NASL are able to solve things by being cute and funny. Entertainment such as DIMAGA coming out in Carmac's bee suit, White-Ra as a bartender, and the random NASL dog come to mind. That is probably what WCS America could benefit from right now.

On June 19 2013 20:42 Gr33d wrote:

Try posting something worthwhile then (Judging from your "argument" of just rewriting something in your lololbro language you can't I guess). Unless TB was included in the negotioations he is as much an insider as you or I am.

I didn't watch most of season 1, not because of the time slot but because it was at best incredibly boring. Admittedly there are worlds between +0 GMT and +2 GMT, but I can just say that it was a choice by me to not watch it, not bad time/difficulty. Maybe people have been too rough on MLG, but at the same time you shouldn't make it sound like S1 was well ran by MLG.

On June 19 2013 22:13 Butterednuts wrote:
Maybe finally we'll be able to watch the WCS on a stream that doesn't lag every single damn day. Seriously, I don't know what it is about the MLG headquarters but they have such shotty Internet it seems because they're always having network and Internet issues. Such a pain.

On June 19 2013 22:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:

Why was it boring? This is a pretty terrible piece of criticism. Can't have been the games, the quality of games was significantly higher, unless you're suggesting that those Europeans are better than the Koreans playing in WCS NA (they aren't).

On June 19 2013 22:25 Zarahtra wrote:

Off the top of my head, long waiting times between matches, bad casting and bad production. Also I highly disagree that the quality of the NA games was higher, though that is kind of irrelevant since that is out of MLG's control.
Ontop of it, they had terrible qualifiers with quite a lot of mess as I'm sure you'd know about the best(worst of it was the trying to pass off replay casting as live).

On June 19 2013 22:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:


There weren't long waits between matches, the downtime was in my recollection lower than the other WCS events. Bad casting is very subjective, bad production is just flat out not true.

The quality of the games was definitely higher and they were not casting the qualifiers from replays who the heck told you that?