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On June 16 2013 22:53 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 22:43 sushiman wrote:
They should just use a better stream service than Twitch, they're incapable of providing stable streams in Europe. Which makes it a bad choice for a Europe-based event, one would think. ~~ Or Twitch should use an established CDN themselves instead of trying to build out their own. They did add akamai CDN to their service at one time in the past when MLG was waffling between using them or using akamai directly. I don't think they use it any more so I guess they weren't satisfied with their reduced profit margins. It may be cheaper to use their own servers but it's obviously inferior and they will always be playing catchup when it comes to adding capacity.
you may find this post interesting: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/17o18a/own3dtv_files_for_bankruptcy_cannot_repay_all/
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its not only the dreamhack stream, the SC2 proleague stream stutters as well right now.
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Twitch has been awful for most of Europe lately.
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On June 17 2013 17:23 namste wrote:
Twitch has been awful for most of Europe lately.
Yep.
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On June 17 2013 17:23 namste wrote:
Twitch has been awful for most of Europe lately.
Oh please, you have no idea how many or how little viewers in europe have had problems.
Speak for yourself, not for the millions of twitch users in europe, when only ~2000, have voiced themselves.
European twitch viewers have had problems with twitch, during peak hours - Correct
Most european twitch viewers have had problems with tiwtch, during peak hours - A wild guess, maybe correct, maybe not. But unsupported info = bad info.
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Having major problems today with Twitch on SC2 Proleague and DreamHack over the last 2 days. I haven't seen any of DreamHack at all really tbh because of the stuttering. Usually watch in 420 and i am having no issues with other providers such as Youtube.
What i have noticed is that the adverts during the streams are silky smooth every time, so personally i think this is twitch throttling the bandwidth
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They should have youtube live as backup or main
works quite well
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DH's stream works really fine for me, 720p with almost no stutter. Both DH SC2 & DotA 2.
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On June 17 2013 17:35 kaluro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 17:23 namste wrote:
Twitch has been awful for most of Europe lately. Oh please, you have no idea how many or how little viewers in europe have had problems. Speak for yourself, not for the millions of twitch users in europe, when only ~2000, have voiced themselves. European twitch viewers have had problems with twitch, during peak hours - CorrectMost european twitch viewers have had problems with tiwtch, during peak hours - A wild guess, maybe correct, maybe not. But unsupported info = bad info.
well we can only discuss the stuff we have numbers on. and i know that this are just 50 ppl but it gives a tendecy.
On June 17 2013 17:29 nkr wrote:Would be interesting to see how twitch has been to the european audience during this event; there's been a lot of complaints. Personally day one was fine, while day two was unwatchable at points. Poll: For Europeans: How has your twitch experience been?A lot of problems (82) 51% Slightly problematic (41) 25% Unwatchable (20) 12% No problems (18) 11% 161 total votes Your vote: For Europeans: How has your twitch experience been? (Vote): No problems
(Vote): Slightly problematic
(Vote): A lot of problems
(Vote): Unwatchable
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On June 17 2013 17:35 kaluro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 17:23 namste wrote:
Twitch has been awful for most of Europe lately. Oh please, you have no idea how many or how little viewers in europe have had problems. Speak for yourself, not for the millions of twitch users in europe, when only ~2000, have voiced themselves. European twitch viewers have had problems with twitch, during peak hours - CorrectMost european twitch viewers have had problems with tiwtch, during peak hours - A wild guess, maybe correct, maybe not. But unsupported info = bad info.
So because everyone that has lags doesn't post on TL means a minority of people have lags ? Twitch has been stuttering for me all week-end -only twitch obviously when azubu.tv was up for LoL it was perfectly fine- and it is the same for ALL of my friends. Do they all post on TL? No. Hell you just have to check the awful twitch chat for 15 seconds to understand the problem is widespread. Twitch themselves acknowledged it, all we can do is wait (and complain I guess so we feel a little better).
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Ro16 stuttering again on all resolutions and I have the sickest connection here on my work. It's unwatchable and I'm done wasting my time. Thanks twitch for ruining the DH experience all weekend.
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today its fine for me tbh (720p no lags), but i think when more ppl tune in the Quality of the stream will go down again.
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Was fine for me for JD vs Stephano Game 1, now the lag starts QQ
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Thanks for the link.I will definitely try it out.
As an update DH has been really good so far via twitch
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Here in the Middle East Dreamhack is fine, but PL is almost unwatchable today. Pretty weird, I dunno if Israel taking data from the Europian servers.
EDIT: DH started to lag for me also -_-
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not from europe but got non stop stuttering while watching proleague, dreamhack is starting to lag too
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On June 17 2013 18:11 RouaF wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 17:35 kaluro wrote:On June 17 2013 17:23 namste wrote:
Twitch has been awful for most of Europe lately. Oh please, you have no idea how many or how little viewers in europe have had problems. Speak for yourself, not for the millions of twitch users in europe, when only ~2000, have voiced themselves. European twitch viewers have had problems with twitch, during peak hours - CorrectMost european twitch viewers have had problems with tiwtch, during peak hours - A wild guess, maybe correct, maybe not. But unsupported info = bad info. So because everyone that has lags doesn't post on TL means a minority of people have lags ? Twitch has been stuttering for me all week-end -only twitch obviously when azubu.tv was up for LoL it was perfectly fine- and it is the same for ALL of my friends. Do they all post on TL? No. Hell you just have to check the awful twitch chat for 15 seconds to understand the problem is widespread. Twitch themselves acknowledged it, all we can do is wait (and complain I guess so we feel a little better).
No it doesn't say that a minority of the europeans have lag issues, but it also doesn't state that a majority have lag issues. All we know is that europeans have issues, not how many or how little.
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On June 17 2013 17:35 kaluro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 17:23 namste wrote:
Twitch has been awful for most of Europe lately. Oh please, you have no idea how many or how little viewers in europe have had problems. Speak for yourself, not for the millions of twitch users in europe, when only ~2000, have voiced themselves. European twitch viewers have had problems with twitch, during peak hours - CorrectMost european twitch viewers have had problems with tiwtch, during peak hours - A wild guess, maybe correct, maybe not. But unsupported info = bad info.
Oh only ~2000 have voiced themselves. Thanks for this fact (=good info)
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I've been getting a lot of problems watching any twitch stream in even 360p constant stuttering
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