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On June 17 2013 03:19 WonnaPlay wrote:
Hmm, I haven't had any problems today at all. I did tune in very early though. Yesterday I had alot of lag when I came online around 18:00 CET.
Maybe they prioritize the first XXX.XXX viewers and then the rest goes on the small pile of lower rate?
edit : viewing 720p +
yup, when the EU servers are full, people get redirected to twitch servers in NA
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On June 16 2013 22:41 Pandemona wrote:Yeah i thought the issue would be something like this, makes sense. Thank god they are opening some more ;_; After reading that, he suggest that when it isn't "overloaded" in the EU with viewers, that it is fine, but when it reaches its current cap, then it overflows and you have to re route the stream to California/Kansas servers so thats when the lag occurs, but then it will be only for some people. + Show Spoiler [His Answer] +
Question:
How can you explain that all video data being streamed from EU gets routed to NA, Kansas/California and other states ??
Isn't this a major routing flaw in your product? This issue has been quite prevailing for the past couple of weeks and so far viewers have not received any official answers.
Answer:
When we run out of EU capacity, we spillover to the US rather than either A) overloading EU servers, or B) refusing to serve new viewers.
We're opening 3 new datacenters shortly in the EU for just this reason.
The problem is, however, that Twitch has been opening new data centers for 2 and a half years. The service has been horribly broken more often than not, which is a shame and a real issue
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On June 16 2013 21:34 A Wild Sosd wrote:Twitch doesnt have enough data centers in EU. They are opening 3 more soon Source: Twitch CEO AMA
oh thought they already added them and was quiet worried haha.
Anyway try different qualities if you have this stuttering, even the better quality might be lag free (yesterday it was 720p, today its another quality that works well for me heh). And twitch might not like it, but don't watch 10 streams at once xD.
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Ohlen needs to talk to Youtube
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I would go as far to say that TwitchTV is actually a major hindrance to esports. More data centers coming to EU, well I've been hearing that for a long time..
Kinda awesome also when you're at Dreamhack and trying to watch Twitch stream, but not working at all, despite the LOADS of twitch tv ad posters all over the place, and the fastest internet in the world. A great sponsor for the event indeed.
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Yeah i noticed it a bit, but i switched between the resolutions and after a while it just sorta stopped happening....
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Yeah when a tournament's twitch streams runs well for me that's actually the rare exception. Right now the main Sc2 and the main English Dota 2 stream are mostly in complete garbage stability. I've basically got 2-3s of stream and then it cuts out for 3-4s, incl. audio. It's just so unbelievable annoying. Switching quality does nothing at all.
(Germany, Lower Saxony, Kabel Deutschland 32mb down and 2mb up). Having no other issues with my connection atm and turned into the Swedish, non-twitch stream for the Thorzain vs Naniwa game and it ran perfectly fine.
I have zero faith in twitch that this shit will get better anytime soon... meaning not within the next couple years.
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I've always said it but the day youtube starts to really commit to streaming is probably the day twitch dies.
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On June 17 2013 04:03 MagnuMizer wrote:
Yeah i noticed it a bit, but i switched between the resolutions and after a while it just sorta stopped happening....
Other people probably ragequit and gave you some more bandwidth..
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some times it works better for me on 720p+ with less lag then 240p for some reason. Maybe different dedicated servers or something?
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For me it's on and off per week, i've had weeks of EU WCS from being unwatchable to totally watchable and now with dreamhack i don't have any problems (knocks on wood)
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No problems for me on all definitions even on my twitch app on my phone. I'm on Philly (philadelphia) East Coast of United States to give you an idea of location I am at.
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You're from the US so you're not supposed to have problems with twitch.
They have too few data centers in Europe, so viewers in Europe have to deal with this shit at the peak viewing hours. Mostly on sundays and whenever there is a big event.
Twitch has been bad for years for European viewers and it has gotten worse after own3d died.
With own3d viewers from the US had the same problems and it was fine for EU.
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On June 17 2013 01:29 Skawuscha wrote:
i hate twitch, last dreamhack i watched the stream was 1080p perfect quality... cant understand why everyone is working with them
Cause it's a) the best available and b) they throw a ton of money into sponsoring said tournaments which helps grow esports. So maybe you should just stop complaining and realize those as facts.
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For me the stream was perfect so far, except for a short time (~1 minute) where the whole twitch site wouldn't load.
edit: @ 720+ on a 6Mbit DSL line (best I can get here other than cable)
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On June 17 2013 05:38 Catatonic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 01:29 Skawuscha wrote:
i hate twitch, last dreamhack i watched the stream was 1080p perfect quality... cant understand why everyone is working with them Cause it's a) the best available and b) they throw a ton of money into sponsoring said tournaments which helps grow esports. So maybe you should just stop complaining and realize those as facts.
Call me a selfish bastard but i don't care about any of that if i can't watch the tournament.
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Also stopped watching DH on friday and saturday after prolonged stuttering. Very dissapointed in Twitch. Will tune in today, if it stutters again I wont be wasting my time any longer. This coming from 100mbit up and down from my work in Amsterdam (working the weekends -yes) and asymetrical 60 back home in Utrecht.
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Gotta love being in that NA
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For me to watch these events in decent quality, I have to wait for the events to be over and download/"buffer" each 30 min block of the VoD if there is one. I miss out otherwise. Would be nice if they dual streamed it on YouTube so it's actually watchable by the rest of the world that doesn't have data centres in their region.
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