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SC2 Power Rank - June 2013 - Page 25

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monsta
Profile Joined November 2012
172 Posts
June 05 2013 15:01 GMT
#481
Flash is 100% a overrated player (because of his BW history) and Life should be still in TOP 5 i mean everyone knows Life's ZvX's are overall better than Symbol's aka alliner zerg (i love Symbol but cmon..-.-) and lets look at MVP's and Hero's resuls..
everyone knows that WCS NA was a joke and MVP had to play with his EU-KR lag.. if u asking me: MVP > HerO
di4m0nd
Profile Joined June 2010
United States297 Posts
June 05 2013 15:02 GMT
#482
This whole article seems way to biased to proleague.
Dont get me wrong I love watching proleague but if you are going to make a power ranking you should include everything..

GSL (WCS/EU/KR/US)
GSTL
Proleague

and not just progleague results as some ppl already mentioned its not fair since ESF players cant play in proleague
TLO | MC | Taeja | MarineKing | Alicia | HerO | PartinG | Bomber | Genius | MMA | CoCa | HuK | DRG | YugiOh | MVP | Jjakji | Stardust | Snute | Scarlett
pricelessest
Profile Joined June 2013
1 Post
June 05 2013 15:10 GMT
#483
You guys lose a lot of credibility by making Hero #10.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 15:19:40
June 05 2013 15:18 GMT
#484
On June 06 2013 00:01 monsta wrote:
Flash is 100% a overrated player (because of his BW history) and Life should be still in TOP 5 i mean everyone knows Life's ZvX's are overall better than Symbol's aka alliner zerg (i love Symbol but cmon..-.-) and lets look at MVP's and Hero's resuls..
everyone knows that WCS NA was a joke and MVP had to play with his EU-KR lag.. if u asking me: MVP > HerO

Yeah, well that's just like your opinion man.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
JorSharky
Profile Joined June 2013
11 Posts
June 05 2013 15:19 GMT
#485
Hero does not belong to the top 10 players what so ever! He's TL alright but for sure not even near the top 10 ..
As for INnoVation I do believe he's more constant compared to SK thou he lost GSL finals .. Life I think deserve to be higher on the list .. But well done anyway guys!
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else."
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10358 Posts
June 05 2013 15:21 GMT
#486
Brood War players ftw!!!
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
June 05 2013 15:21 GMT
#487
On June 05 2013 22:12 lichter wrote:
This list is bullcrap. Where is NaDa??? If this truly is a ranking of the most powerful in SC2, NaDa's body is evidence enough that he has the most power.

[image loading]

Finally a complaint post that I totally agree with.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10358 Posts
June 05 2013 15:22 GMT
#488
On June 05 2013 22:36 Noocta wrote:
Kespa players already everywhere. :/

FUCK YEA KESPAAAA
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3769 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 15:30:33
June 05 2013 15:29 GMT
#489
On June 06 2013 00:19 JorSharky wrote:
Hero does not belong to the top 10 players what so ever! He's TL alright but for sure not even near the top 10 ..
As for INnoVation I do believe he's more constant compared to SK thou he lost GSL finals .. Life I think deserve to be higher on the list .. But well done anyway guys!

Can you please specify who outshined HerO based on results/quality of games in May and - to a lesser degree - in April?

On June 06 2013 00:22 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 22:36 Noocta wrote:
Kespa players already everywhere. :/

FUCK YEA KESPAAAA

What are you happy about may I ask?
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 15:34:26
June 05 2013 15:34 GMT
#490
On June 06 2013 00:29 nimdil wrote:
What are you happy about may I ask?

Cuz he likes KeSPA players ?
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 05 2013 15:54 GMT
#491
On June 06 2013 00:19 JorSharky wrote:
Hero does not belong to the top 10 players what so ever! He's TL alright but for sure not even near the top 10 ..
As for INnoVation I do believe he's more constant compared to SK thou he lost GSL finals .. Life I think deserve to be higher on the list .. But well done anyway guys!



Who else to put in then? HerO deserves it.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 05 2013 16:06 GMT
#492
On June 06 2013 00:54 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 00:19 JorSharky wrote:
Hero does not belong to the top 10 players what so ever! He's TL alright but for sure not even near the top 10 ..
As for INnoVation I do believe he's more constant compared to SK thou he lost GSL finals .. Life I think deserve to be higher on the list .. But well done anyway guys!



Who else to put in then? HerO deserves it.


MVP!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10358 Posts
June 05 2013 16:10 GMT
#493
On June 06 2013 00:29 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 00:22 Jealous wrote:
On June 05 2013 22:36 Noocta wrote:
Kespa players already everywhere. :/

FUCK YEA KESPAAAA

What are you happy about may I ask?

I thought it was pretty clear that I was happy about KeSPA players taking the top spots.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
June 05 2013 16:11 GMT
#494
On June 06 2013 00:29 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 00:19 JorSharky wrote:
Hero does not belong to the top 10 players what so ever! He's TL alright but for sure not even near the top 10 ..
As for INnoVation I do believe he's more constant compared to SK thou he lost GSL finals .. Life I think deserve to be higher on the list .. But well done anyway guys!

Can you please specify who outshined HerO based on results/quality of games in May and - to a lesser degree - in April?

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 00:22 Jealous wrote:
On June 05 2013 22:36 Noocta wrote:
Kespa players already everywhere. :/

FUCK YEA KESPAAAA

What are you happy about may I ask?



We feel very passionate and proud of KESPA players. Kind of like most Polish people would with your countries national team.
BW4LIFE
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
June 05 2013 16:15 GMT
#495
On June 05 2013 20:44 p14c wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 20:31 Noobity wrote:
I don't understand this list. How is 15-2 in best of one games more important than a 5th place finish or WCS EU championship regardless of opponents considering they're all pretty difficult?

The Flash bias is so old.

Stephano got his ass kicked in Proleague. He started slumping after that beating he took. Also WCS America was dominated by EG-TL which is the last team in Proleague. And last but not least 3 out of 4 GSL semifinalists were Kespa players..So yeah, you see Proleague is a very important league. In this league the player with the most wins by far is...Flash. WCS EU is not that important. You got a Code B GSL player vs a player who got only 2 wins in Proleague and then left with his tail between his legs from Korea...


At the time Stephano was in Proleague, he managed to qualify for Code S and had a good 50% win rate, whereas Hero wasn't and had an awful record in PL.

Try again.
Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1079 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 16:27:34
June 05 2013 16:27 GMT
#496
Oh look - it's like the top 8 GSL finishers minus KangHo and Bomber and plus Life, Rain and HerO? Two of which got knocked out in the group stage. At least HerO won his WCS region. This seems a little biased. Fuck I would have considered TLO for this list. Oh wait but he's not Korean? C'mon how did you even come up with this. It seems a lot of these people just got in on their IDs.
Now witness their attempts to fly from tree to tree. Notice they do not so much fly as plummet.
fluidin
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore1084 Posts
June 05 2013 16:31 GMT
#497
On June 06 2013 01:27 Arghmyliver wrote:
Oh look - it's like the top 8 GSL finishers minus KangHo and Bomber and plus Life, Rain and HerO? Two of whom got knocked out in the group stage. At least HerO won his WCS region. This seems a little biased. Fuck I would have considered TLO for this list. Oh wait but he's not Korean? C'mon how did you even come up with this. It seems a lot of these people just got in on their IDs.


.... TLO does not rank close in power to any nominees/nominated mentioned in the article.

I think a lot of people underestimate how important Proleague is for evaluating power rankings. Just look at the Kespa MLG qualifier results and behold the depth of competition in PL.

That aside, I do agree with most of the article, although it's a personal opinion of mine that Life should be higher than Symbol/RoRo still.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
June 05 2013 16:32 GMT
#498
On June 06 2013 01:27 Arghmyliver wrote:
Oh look - it's like the top 8 GSL finishers minus KangHo and Bomber and plus Life, Rain and HerO? Two of which got knocked out in the group stage. At least HerO won his WCS region. This seems a little biased. Fuck I would have considered TLO for this list. Oh wait but he's not Korean? C'mon how did you even come up with this. It seems a lot of these people just got in on their IDs.


i lost you at TLO... LOL
The Notorious Winkles
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
June 05 2013 16:35 GMT
#499
Finally! :D
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
1raxexpand
Profile Joined July 2012
United States165 Posts
June 05 2013 16:42 GMT
#500
On June 05 2013 20:44 p14c wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 20:31 Noobity wrote:
I don't understand this list. How is 15-2 in best of one games more important than a 5th place finish or WCS EU championship regardless of opponents considering they're all pretty difficult?

The Flash bias is so old.

Stephano got his ass kicked in Proleague. He started slumping after that beating he took. Also WCS America was dominated by EG-TL which is the last team in Proleague. And last but not least 3 out of 4 GSL semifinalists were Kespa players..So yeah, you see Proleague is a very important league. In this league the player with the most wins by far is...Flash. WCS EU is not that important. You got a Code B GSL player vs a player who got only 2 wins in Proleague and then left with his tail between his legs from Korea...


Well mvp = code B is bs and you know it. Stephano qualified for code S the same season so we know a mvp is at least code S. Also Stephano did not do that bad in pl.
Mvp-forGG-MKP-Bogus-Ty-MMA-Polt-Taeja-Flash
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