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France9034 Posts
On June 05 2013 21:08 Lysanias wrote:
Welcome back Power rank ! :D
First things first Soulkey to me has proven that his mentality is stronger then that of Innovation, i supose with the proleague results counted in Innovation still got the better overall results. But this weekend i feel Soulkey again can beat Innovation but this time more convincingly.
Well, INno road to the finals was more impressive though... Roflstomping Life, RorO, beating convincingly Flash and Symbol.
When you compare to Soulkey who looked a bit shaky and not that dominant in his own way...
But true, Soulkey had better nerves in the finals.
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On June 05 2013 09:16 Arisen wrote:
i disagree with soulkey vs innovation. People dick ride innovation way to hard. I think soulkey justified himself as a really great player under pressure and innovation proved that he needs to work on that part of his game. Innovation might have looked more dominant in the games he won, but I think soulkey proved to be the better all around player
Win rate against others. Not just their series. I think Inno has the highest win rate in a match up in Starcraft 2. 92.3% in TvZ before the finals. You have to consider the consistency of their games and also who they beat. (meh its in the OP).
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Poland3769 Posts
On June 05 2013 20:43 DustbinBieber wrote:
6 out of ten are KespA btw (not counting PartinG)
Including top 4
heheheheheeh
It is interesting. However it shows how wrong elephant theory was. Also aren't you ashamed of your nickname? 
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Ok with Mvp not in the top 10, only played in WSC EU recently
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On June 05 2013 21:13 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 21:08 Lysanias wrote:
Welcome back Power rank ! :D
First things first Soulkey to me has proven that his mentality is stronger then that of Innovation, i supose with the proleague results counted in Innovation still got the better overall results. But this weekend i feel Soulkey again can beat Innovation but this time more convincingly.
Well, INno road to the finals was more impressive though... Roflstomping Life, RorO, beating convincingly Flash and Symbol. When you compare to Soulkey who looked a bit shaky and not that dominant in his own way... But true, Soulkey had better nerves in the finals.
True that he did, but Innovation is hardly the only one looking impressive until the finals hit, Squirtle looked scary as hell to and look what happend when MVP beat him and the hype past on. (Squirtle is still a great player ofc) Such is the way in Starcraft you will have to win in the end. And Innovation better do so this weekend if not, he's not worthy of the number 1 spot.
He might play the best but his mentality is not the best (currently), a true number 1 has both 
Innovation sure has better results in Proleague, so it makes sense in the end if we look at the full picture.
I will save this for next month when Soulkey simply wins this Weekend.
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Cant wait to watch WCS final to witness the true MVP dominance 
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On June 05 2013 21:21 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 21:13 Ragnarork wrote:On June 05 2013 21:08 Lysanias wrote:
Welcome back Power rank ! :D
First things first Soulkey to me has proven that his mentality is stronger then that of Innovation, i supose with the proleague results counted in Innovation still got the better overall results. But this weekend i feel Soulkey again can beat Innovation but this time more convincingly.
Well, INno road to the finals was more impressive though... Roflstomping Life, RorO, beating convincingly Flash and Symbol. When you compare to Soulkey who looked a bit shaky and not that dominant in his own way... But true, Soulkey had better nerves in the finals. True that he did, but Innovation is hardly the only one looking impressive until the finals hit, Squirtle looked scary as hell to and look what happend when MVP beat him and the hype past on. (Squirtle is still a great player ofc) Such is the way in Starcraft you will have to win in the end. And Innovation better do so this weekend if not, he's not worthy of the number 1 spot. He might play the best but his mentality is not the best (currently), a true number 1 has both Innovation sure has better results in Proleague, so it makes sense in the end if we look at the full picture. I will save this for next month when Soulkey simply wins this Weekend.
By your logic that number 1 has both, then soulkey isn't really number 1 either. So why not give it to Innovation? Besides, it's a monthly matter, not as if this ranking determines how good he has been and will be for the rest of Sc2.
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Can't wait to see more of these.
In my opinion, I also think that Innovation should be above Soulkey. That image at the bottom of Soulkey's paragraph is very hard to see even the second time. It does in fact sum up the last few games of the series nicely.
I'm not sure about having Life and Symbol so high up on the list, though.
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Lol, in the asian indoor qualifiers sOs beat innovation, life, creatorprime among others in bo3... He barely lost to soulkey 3-4 in semifinals and he has been doing great in pro league. And above him in the ranking is players like: symbol, rain and roro. He should at least be top 5.
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On June 05 2013 19:25 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Those power ranks will never be the same you know, because of some bias for TL players...
i don't think the writers themselves have much bias for TL over any other team even though they're writing for TL.net
TLPro =/= TL.net
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a great write up, very well researched, and doesnt seem to be biased.
personally i agree with this ranking for the most part, however i would put flash at number 2 over soulkey for the same reason that innovation is above soulkey. hes just simply a better player imo even if he hasnt just won the GSL.
i also think i would put RorO above Symbol, personally i've just been more impressed with the quality of RorO's games rather than Symbol's put thats kinda nit picky and neither here nor there.
GL with the future of the power ranking. i thoroughly enjoyed reading it every month in the BW days waiting for that one time where we might not see Flash and Jaedong at numbers 1 and 2. dont think that ever happened tho haha. cant rememer
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So, based upon which evidence do we have that powerrank? Some guys drinking a beer and making a list?
It looks pretty arbitrary at this point apart from #1 and #2.
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Great ranking, totally agree. Also for people saying Kangho should be in it, as far as GSL is concerned I feel he got fairly easy groups so far, and didn't impress me much in it.
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Personally, I still think Flash is the best player in the world, but I can see why they wouldn't put him there.
And I think SK deserves the #1, but it's so close that I'm not worried about it. I just hope Innovation gets exposed at the WCS finals.
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Very glad TL didn't put up the 1-2 foreigners required in the top 10 just to please fanboys.
Flash is slightly high, but hey its a power ranking.
Don't drop a match vs foreigners!
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Top four are already filled with KeSPA players. How long until the top ten are all from KeSPA
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Always love Power Rank & the drama comments!
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France9034 Posts
On June 05 2013 21:44 Big J wrote:
So, based upon which evidence do we have that powerrank? Some guys drinking a beer and making a list?
It looks pretty arbitrary at this point apart from #1 and #2.
When will people understand this IS arbitrary ?
You completely have the right to disagree ! But better bring solid arguments then.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
This list is bullcrap. Where is NaDa??? If this truly is a ranking of the most powerful in SC2, NaDa's body is evidence enough that he has the most power.
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On June 05 2013 22:04 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 21:44 Big J wrote:
So, based upon which evidence do we have that powerrank? Some guys drinking a beer and making a list?
It looks pretty arbitrary at this point apart from #1 and #2. When will people understand this IS arbitrary ? You completely have the right to disagree ! But better bring solid arguments then.
Well, the only arguments for number 3 and number 4 on this list are:
"they do amazingly in proleague".
And then you go to the arguments for number 1 and then add
"unless they have to face someone that is actually a highcaliber player himself".
Well, Keen is rocking GSTL as well and has been in the last Code S and will be in the next one as well.
That doesn't mean I think Keen should be on the list and number 3 and 4 not, but at this point, putting them over players who have achieved much more in Starcraft 2 and the last GSL but don't participate in proleague because they are on eSF like Symbol or Life (and do well in their respective teamleague - GSTL) and have been toplevel players for much, much longer is just blind fanboyism. And disregards anybody who doesn't play proleague.
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