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SC2 Power Rank - June 2013 - Page 22

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syno
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland150 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 11:11:11
June 05 2013 11:10 GMT
#421
On June 05 2013 19:58 Grumbels wrote:
soulkey beats innovation in the finals, gets second place to innovation in this ranking... gotta respect results yo

They obviously respected ALL results yo
Good Brain
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
June 05 2013 11:12 GMT
#422
Jangbi should at least be CBNC too. He and TY are playing soooo well recently.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Mikelius
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany517 Posts
June 05 2013 11:14 GMT
#423
It frustrates me how many people are bitching about the power rank based on WCS alone. Proleague provides so much more context to the choices and makes more sense if you follow it as well.
Less QQ, more PewPew
fjjotizz
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden153 Posts
June 05 2013 11:22 GMT
#424
Even though one might not necessarily agree with the selections, it's a great read and a GREAT feeling that Power Rank is back! :D
"I'm a creepy guy. Tasteless, if it would make my units move faster, I would peek in everyones window in Seoul."
Kompicek
Profile Joined May 2008
Czech Republic245 Posts
June 05 2013 11:23 GMT
#425
power rankings hurraaaaaay!
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 11:32:55
June 05 2013 11:28 GMT
#426
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Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
June 05 2013 11:31 GMT
#427
I don't understand this list. How is 15-2 in best of one games more important than a 5th place finish or WCS EU championship regardless of opponents considering they're all pretty difficult?

The Flash bias is so old.
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 05 2013 11:34 GMT
#428
On June 05 2013 20:31 Noobity wrote:
I don't understand this list. How is 15-2 in best of one games more important than a 5th place finish or WCS EU championship regardless of opponents considering they're all pretty difficult?

The Flash bias is so old.


Regardless of opponents? I mean, are you seriously saying to just disregard how good the people they're playing are?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
June 05 2013 11:38 GMT
#429
On June 05 2013 20:12 Elroi wrote:
Jangbi should at least be CBNC too. He and TY are playing soooo well recently.

Im perfectly fine, its staging almost exactly like in Jin Air, JangBang out of nowhere.
Stork[gm]
DustbinBieber
Profile Joined April 2013
France276 Posts
June 05 2013 11:39 GMT
#430
POLT PLEASE
agree with the rest, even though I'd probably pick Flash over Soulkey
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 11:42:09
June 05 2013 11:40 GMT
#431
On June 05 2013 20:31 Noobity wrote:
I don't understand this list. How is 15-2 in best of one games more important than a 5th place finish or WCS EU championship regardless of opponents considering they're all pretty difficult?

The Flash bias is so old.

It's not bias he's the 2nd best terran right now it's fact.
Moderatorlickypiddy
DustbinBieber
Profile Joined April 2013
France276 Posts
June 05 2013 11:43 GMT
#432
6 out of ten are KespA btw (not counting PartinG)
Including top 4

heheheheheeh
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
June 05 2013 11:44 GMT
#433
On June 05 2013 20:31 Noobity wrote:
I don't understand this list. How is 15-2 in best of one games more important than a 5th place finish or WCS EU championship regardless of opponents considering they're all pretty difficult?

The Flash bias is so old.

Stephano got his ass kicked in Proleague. He started slumping after that beating he took. Also WCS America was dominated by EG-TL which is the last team in Proleague. And last but not least 3 out of 4 GSL semifinalists were Kespa players..So yeah, you see Proleague is a very important league. In this league the player with the most wins by far is...Flash. WCS EU is not that important. You got a Code B GSL player vs a player who got only 2 wins in Proleague and then left with his tail between his legs from Korea...
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
June 05 2013 11:45 GMT
#434
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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
June 05 2013 11:54 GMT
#435
On June 05 2013 20:14 Mikelius wrote:
It frustrates me how many people are bitching about the power rank based on WCS alone. Proleague provides so much more context to the choices and makes more sense if you follow it as well.

The problem with that logic is that half of the players don't play in proleague giving the ones that do a big advantage in these rankings.
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
June 05 2013 11:54 GMT
#436
On June 05 2013 20:44 p14c wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 20:31 Noobity wrote:
I don't understand this list. How is 15-2 in best of one games more important than a 5th place finish or WCS EU championship regardless of opponents considering they're all pretty difficult?

The Flash bias is so old.

Stephano got his ass kicked in Proleague. He started slumping after that beating he took. Also WCS America was dominated by EG-TL which is the last team in Proleague. And last but not least 3 out of 4 GSL semifinalists were Kespa players..So yeah, you see Proleague is a very important league. In this league the player with the most wins by far is...Flash. WCS EU is not that important. You got a Code B GSL player vs a player who got only 2 wins in Proleague and then left with his tail between his legs from Korea...

How is a 6-5 record ass kicking? Silly Flash fan.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 12:00:27
June 05 2013 11:56 GMT
#437
By the way they shouldn't do a power ranking every month, it's such a bad idea. A power ranking should be very meaningful and definitive, if you have one every two months then you can live up to this much better than with a monthly one, where you would often have really strong players that just didn't do anything for that month in particular. I don't see how it's excusable to have e.g. two consecutive power rankings that are wildly different, since not that much can change in one month. Or to have top players ranked highly even if they didn't play any games.

And if you only do a power ranking every two months you have some space to make it, like, a top 15 or top 20, to give more players their due. You could also incorporate stuff like 'rising player' and such and look to the future. And maybe a power ranking specifically for foreigners, since there's a reason Blizzard has gone through the trouble of having various regional WCS tournaments: it's to support and highlight the foreigner scene and TL could use the power ranking to help with this.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
June 05 2013 11:57 GMT
#438
RoRo is too high on the list. He didn't do that well in Proleague and also not in GSL vs Innovation. He should be rank 8/9 or something like that. Also Jangbi for cbnc.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
June 05 2013 11:59 GMT
#439
On June 05 2013 19:58 Grumbels wrote:
soulkey beats innovation in the finals, gets second place to innovation in this ranking... gotta respect results yo


Gosh how many pages of this will we get... ? One-series-ranking for the win heh ?

As pointed out by many, indeed, PR thread are insanely ridiculous haha !

(And I like the comments like "This is biased", of course this is biased, there's no truth in this.... Only good and argumented opinions against bad and fanboyism-filled opinions, but still opinions)

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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 12:14:39
June 05 2013 12:08 GMT
#440
Welcome back Power rank ! :D

First things first Soulkey to me has proven that his mentality is stronger then that of Innovation, i supose with the proleague results counted in Innovation still got the better overall results. But this weekend i feel Soulkey again can beat Innovation but this time more convincingly.
I also think over time Soulkey will improve more and become Kespa's best zerg kinda like at the end of Broodwar where he was just about to hit his peak until they switched over.
(people tend to forget how good Soulkey was late BW)

Kinda sad Losira didn't make it but it does make sense, his ZvP has been lackluster for a long while and those sOs matches were awful then again that was both sides.
I don't agree he had an "easy" path though in WCS Korea, that excuse is made to often. We have long past the time where we had players like Inca advancing, you make it to code S currently it means your prity damn good and in no way EASY, but allas no group of death then everything is lackluster and underhyped.

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