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On June 05 2013 19:58 Grumbels wrote: soulkey beats innovation in the finals, gets second place to innovation in this ranking... gotta respect results yo They obviously respected ALL results yo
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Jangbi should at least be CBNC too. He and TY are playing soooo well recently.
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It frustrates me how many people are bitching about the power rank based on WCS alone. Proleague provides so much more context to the choices and makes more sense if you follow it as well.
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Even though one might not necessarily agree with the selections, it's a great read and a GREAT feeling that Power Rank is back! :D
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power rankings hurraaaaaay!
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I don't understand this list. How is 15-2 in best of one games more important than a 5th place finish or WCS EU championship regardless of opponents considering they're all pretty difficult?
The Flash bias is so old.
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On June 05 2013 20:31 Noobity wrote: I don't understand this list. How is 15-2 in best of one games more important than a 5th place finish or WCS EU championship regardless of opponents considering they're all pretty difficult?
The Flash bias is so old.
Regardless of opponents? I mean, are you seriously saying to just disregard how good the people they're playing are?
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On June 05 2013 20:12 Elroi wrote: Jangbi should at least be CBNC too. He and TY are playing soooo well recently. Im perfectly fine, its staging almost exactly like in Jin Air, JangBang out of nowhere.
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POLT PLEASE agree with the rest, even though I'd probably pick Flash over Soulkey
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Canada16217 Posts
On June 05 2013 20:31 Noobity wrote: I don't understand this list. How is 15-2 in best of one games more important than a 5th place finish or WCS EU championship regardless of opponents considering they're all pretty difficult?
The Flash bias is so old. It's not bias he's the 2nd best terran right now it's fact.
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6 out of ten are KespA btw (not counting PartinG) Including top 4 heheheheheeh
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Vatican City State431 Posts
On June 05 2013 20:31 Noobity wrote: I don't understand this list. How is 15-2 in best of one games more important than a 5th place finish or WCS EU championship regardless of opponents considering they're all pretty difficult?
The Flash bias is so old. Stephano got his ass kicked in Proleague. He started slumping after that beating he took. Also WCS America was dominated by EG-TL which is the last team in Proleague. And last but not least 3 out of 4 GSL semifinalists were Kespa players..So yeah, you see Proleague is a very important league. In this league the player with the most wins by far is...Flash. WCS EU is not that important. You got a Code B GSL player vs a player who got only 2 wins in Proleague and then left with his tail between his legs from Korea...
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On June 05 2013 20:14 Mikelius wrote: It frustrates me how many people are bitching about the power rank based on WCS alone. Proleague provides so much more context to the choices and makes more sense if you follow it as well. The problem with that logic is that half of the players don't play in proleague giving the ones that do a big advantage in these rankings.
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On June 05 2013 20:44 p14c wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 20:31 Noobity wrote: I don't understand this list. How is 15-2 in best of one games more important than a 5th place finish or WCS EU championship regardless of opponents considering they're all pretty difficult?
The Flash bias is so old. Stephano got his ass kicked in Proleague. He started slumping after that beating he took. Also WCS America was dominated by EG-TL which is the last team in Proleague. And last but not least 3 out of 4 GSL semifinalists were Kespa players..So yeah, you see Proleague is a very important league. In this league the player with the most wins by far is...Flash. WCS EU is not that important. You got a Code B GSL player vs a player who got only 2 wins in Proleague and then left with his tail between his legs from Korea... How is a 6-5 record ass kicking? Silly Flash fan.
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By the way they shouldn't do a power ranking every month, it's such a bad idea. A power ranking should be very meaningful and definitive, if you have one every two months then you can live up to this much better than with a monthly one, where you would often have really strong players that just didn't do anything for that month in particular. I don't see how it's excusable to have e.g. two consecutive power rankings that are wildly different, since not that much can change in one month. Or to have top players ranked highly even if they didn't play any games.
And if you only do a power ranking every two months you have some space to make it, like, a top 15 or top 20, to give more players their due. You could also incorporate stuff like 'rising player' and such and look to the future. And maybe a power ranking specifically for foreigners, since there's a reason Blizzard has gone through the trouble of having various regional WCS tournaments: it's to support and highlight the foreigner scene and TL could use the power ranking to help with this.
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RoRo is too high on the list. He didn't do that well in Proleague and also not in GSL vs Innovation. He should be rank 8/9 or something like that. Also Jangbi for cbnc.
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France9034 Posts
On June 05 2013 19:58 Grumbels wrote: soulkey beats innovation in the finals, gets second place to innovation in this ranking... gotta respect results yo
Gosh how many pages of this will we get... ? One-series-ranking for the win heh ?
As pointed out by many, indeed, PR thread are insanely ridiculous haha !
(And I like the comments like "This is biased", of course this is biased, there's no truth in this.... Only good and argumented opinions against bad and fanboyism-filled opinions, but still opinions)
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Welcome back Power rank ! :D
First things first Soulkey to me has proven that his mentality is stronger then that of Innovation, i supose with the proleague results counted in Innovation still got the better overall results. But this weekend i feel Soulkey again can beat Innovation but this time more convincingly. I also think over time Soulkey will improve more and become Kespa's best zerg kinda like at the end of Broodwar where he was just about to hit his peak until they switched over. (people tend to forget how good Soulkey was late BW)
Kinda sad Losira didn't make it but it does make sense, his ZvP has been lackluster for a long while and those sOs matches were awful then again that was both sides. I don't agree he had an "easy" path though in WCS Korea, that excuse is made to often. We have long past the time where we had players like Inca advancing, you make it to code S currently it means your prity damn good and in no way EASY, but allas no group of death then everything is lackluster and underhyped.
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