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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 09:19:39
June 04 2013 09:12 GMT
#1
It looks like Blizzard is testing the Battle.net desktop client.

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More info and pics:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/3267-Battle-net-Desktop-Client


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Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
June 04 2013 09:17 GMT
#2
Whoa. So is this the Battle.net version of Steam?

Looks pretty cool.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
June 04 2013 09:18 GMT
#3
I hope it's optional to have...
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
June 04 2013 09:23 GMT
#4
On June 04 2013 18:18 Cokefreak wrote:
I hope it's optional to have...


Me too. I may like it but I really enjoy just having to launch the game without some other big program in the process to get started (as it is with steam).
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
June 04 2013 09:25 GMT
#5
On June 04 2013 18:23 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 18:18 Cokefreak wrote:
I hope it's optional to have...


Me too. I may like it but I really enjoy just having to launch the game without some other big program in the process to get started (as it is with steam).

That and steam is a real bandwidth hog at times, probably will be same for the b.net version as well.
Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
June 04 2013 09:30 GMT
#6
I dislike it with Steam, I dislike it with Origin (Although I am part of the minority who rather has Origin than Steam as lesser of two evils), and I will dislike it with battle.net if you have to use it to use SC2.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 04 2013 09:32 GMT
#7
On June 04 2013 18:30 Sissors wrote:
I dislike it with Steam, I dislike it with Origin (Although I am part of the minority who rather has Origin than Steam as lesser of two evils), and I will dislike it with battle.net if you have to use it to use SC2.

Wait, what does it change? :D
You're also opening a launcher first and logging onto Battle.net to play SC2, currently.
fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
June 04 2013 09:35 GMT
#8
This way they can embed streams in their desktop client :o

hell yus
Liquipedia@jkursk
Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 09:42:32
June 04 2013 09:42 GMT
#9
On June 04 2013 18:32 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 18:30 Sissors wrote:
I dislike it with Steam, I dislike it with Origin (Although I am part of the minority who rather has Origin than Steam as lesser of two evils), and I will dislike it with battle.net if you have to use it to use SC2.

Wait, what does it change? :D
You're also opening a launcher first and logging onto Battle.net to play SC2, currently.

Yes, and that launcher is already ridiculous, why do I have to press play twice? If I double click on my SC2 icon, why doesn't it just automatically go through the launcher.

But the main difference is that the launcher closes down when SC2 launches, Steam/Origin stay always active. (Not to mention my experience with Steam is that you waste more time updating Steam than updating any game.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
June 04 2013 09:42 GMT
#10
This should have been added such a long time ago imo, great it's finally coming tho.
Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
June 04 2013 09:43 GMT
#11
I really have bad bandwidth which is the reason I can't play most steam games online. If this thing isn't optional, I am most likely not going to buy any more Blizzard games...
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
Kokosaft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 09:59:45
June 04 2013 09:45 GMT
#12
On June 04 2013 18:35 fusefuse wrote:
This way they can embed streams in their desktop client :o

hell yus


this.

otherwise i wonder if they will add other games ( maybe only activison games ). i'd expect them to exclusively use it for blizz games though
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
June 04 2013 09:48 GMT
#13
meh :/
rly ?
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
June 04 2013 09:48 GMT
#14
On June 04 2013 18:45 Kokosaft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 18:35 fusefuse wrote:
This way they can embed streams in their desktop client :o

hell yus


this.

otherwise i wonder if they will add other games ( maybe only activison games ). i'd expect them to excluzively use it for blizz games though


I'd say just blizzard games, they will have wow/diablo/sc2/heartshtone/allstars/titan eventually all be out.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
June 04 2013 09:57 GMT
#15
On June 04 2013 18:45 Kokosaft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 18:35 fusefuse wrote:
This way they can embed streams in their desktop client :o

hell yus


this.

otherwise i wonder if they will add other games ( maybe only activison games ). i'd expect them to excluzively use it for blizz games though


Or maybe Valve and Blizzard team up and Blizzard runs their client as some sort of associated client to Steam. (Like there is some kind of main (but optional) connection between the two to mergin gaming experiences. DotA2 and SC can be like STEP Brothers!. Suddenly Blizzard mapmaking community getting a custom game maker influx from the massive valve related modding community! This leads to the true return of SNIPERZ and someone makes the entire dragonball saga ala TWC or Mission to Namek!

Also, entire steam community gets both dota 2 and sc2! New viewers and players!. Best part is, since Valve competitive community = CS, they already can be just as elitist and snobbish as SC community can be....No wait...it could be an elitism multiplier! Oh shit think There will be a elitism about elitism...elitists elitiziing their own elitizim to set their elite status appart from other elite statuses based solely on how elite they are!.

This must happen for the sake of all that is good and righteous in this world. If not, what do we have left to live for?
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 09:59:03
June 04 2013 09:57 GMT
#16
I kinda don't want to have to go through another launcher to get to the game but imbedded streams are quite cool I guess.

On June 04 2013 18:57 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 18:45 Kokosaft wrote:
On June 04 2013 18:35 fusefuse wrote:
This way they can embed streams in their desktop client :o

hell yus


this.

otherwise i wonder if they will add other games ( maybe only activison games ). i'd expect them to excluzively use it for blizz games though


Or maybe Valve and Blizzard team up and Blizzard runs their client as some sort of associated client to Steam. (Like there is some kind of main (but optional) connection between the two to mergin gaming experiences. DotA2 and SC can be like STEP Brothers!. Suddenly Blizzard mapmaking community getting a custom game maker influx from the massive valve related modding community! This leads to the true return of SNIPERZ and someone makes the entire dragonball saga ala TWC or Mission to Namek!

Also, entire steam community gets both dota 2 and sc2! New viewers and players!. Best part is, since Valve competitive community = CS, they already can be just as elitist and snobbish as SC community can be....No wait...it could be an elitism multiplier! Oh shit think There will be a elitism about elitism...elitists elitiziing their own elitizim to set their elite status appart from other elite statuses based solely on how elite they are!.

This must happen for the sake of all that is good and righteous in this world. If not, what do we have left to live for?



Why would Blizz team with Valve with Blizzard Allstars coming out?
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Kokosaft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany172 Posts
June 04 2013 10:00 GMT
#17
On June 04 2013 18:57 Targe wrote:
Why would Blizz team with Valve with Blizzard Allstars coming out?


why would valve team up with blizz when dominating the digital distribution market for pc games ?
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
June 04 2013 10:07 GMT
#18
On June 04 2013 19:00 Kokosaft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 18:57 Targe wrote:
Why would Blizz team with Valve with Blizzard Allstars coming out?


why would valve team up with blizz when dominating the digital distribution market for pc games ?


Great questions! Thanks for the response. Now shut up and listen to my revelation.

1. Blizzard does not effect valves digital distribution domination. Valve will never sell or control blizzards IP's, and I doubt 3rd party devs want to regularly deal with activitison when it comes to developing IPs. Also, this cross promotion could be limited to SC2.

2. Blizzard all-stars is not targeted as an "esport" afaik. It could be the Gun-game, to valves De_dust2. They would get some attention as a hot and sexy alternative to Dota2 for a short while. which is better in valves eyes then boosting up LoL populations.

3. Im a genius with an I.Q. of infinity. My logic is flawless even if you can not comprhend my greatness. You may worship me, I will not stop you. But I will not listen for I cannot hear you over my blasting of Jock Jams Volume 4.
KenZo-
Profile Joined December 2010
Faroe Islands190 Posts
June 04 2013 10:11 GMT
#19
On June 04 2013 18:42 Sissors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 18:32 ZenithM wrote:
On June 04 2013 18:30 Sissors wrote:
I dislike it with Steam, I dislike it with Origin (Although I am part of the minority who rather has Origin than Steam as lesser of two evils), and I will dislike it with battle.net if you have to use it to use SC2.

Wait, what does it change? :D
You're also opening a launcher first and logging onto Battle.net to play SC2, currently.

Yes, and that launcher is already ridiculous, why do I have to press play twice? If I double click on my SC2 icon, why doesn't it just automatically go through the launcher.

But the main difference is that the launcher closes down when SC2 launches, Steam/Origin stay always active. (Not to mention my experience with Steam is that you waste more time updating Steam than updating any game.


You can bypass the "PLAY screen" by opening SC2Switcher in "C:\Program Files (x86)\StarCraft II EU\Support\SC2Switcher.exe" instead, for directly going into the game.. ^^


Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 04 2013 10:16 GMT
#20
On June 04 2013 19:07 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 19:00 Kokosaft wrote:
On June 04 2013 18:57 Targe wrote:
Why would Blizz team with Valve with Blizzard Allstars coming out?


why would valve team up with blizz when dominating the digital distribution market for pc games ?


Great questions! Thanks for the response. Now shut up and listen to my revelation.

1. Blizzard does not effect valves digital distribution domination. Valve will never sell or control blizzards IP's, and I doubt 3rd party devs want to regularly deal with activitison when it comes to developing IPs. Also, this cross promotion could be limited to SC2.

2. Blizzard all-stars is not targeted as an "esport" afaik. It could be the Gun-game, to valves De_dust2. They would get some attention as a hot and sexy alternative to Dota2 for a short while. which is better in valves eyes then boosting up LoL populations.

3. Im a genius with an I.Q. of infinity. My logic is flawless even if you can not comprhend my greatness. You may worship me, I will not stop you. But I will not listen for I cannot hear you over my blasting of Jock Jams Volume 4.

Wat.

Blizzard Allstars will directly contend with Dota 2 for popularity, Valve wouldn't support that, Valve doesn't share the same hate for LoL as the SC2 community and their Dota 2 player base will not be threatened by LoL as the majority of Dota 2 players who will actually purchase items will look down on LoL.

3. Is funny.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Shade_FR
Profile Joined June 2010
France378 Posts
June 04 2013 10:28 GMT
#21
On June 04 2013 18:35 fusefuse wrote:
This way they can embed streams in their desktop client :o

hell yus

I didn't think of that... Clever, very clever.
EU Zerg player - Streaming @ http://twitch.tv/shade_cst
ThatGuyDoMo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia516 Posts
June 04 2013 10:31 GMT
#22
This looks SICK

Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
June 04 2013 10:58 GMT
#23
looks very neat!!! now every blizz game can read news about wcs!! and i also hope for some embedded wcs stream
yo
FluffyBinLaden
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States527 Posts
June 04 2013 11:01 GMT
#24
On June 04 2013 18:57 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 18:45 Kokosaft wrote:
On June 04 2013 18:35 fusefuse wrote:
This way they can embed streams in their desktop client :o

hell yus


this.

otherwise i wonder if they will add other games ( maybe only activison games ). i'd expect them to excluzively use it for blizz games though


Or maybe Valve and Blizzard team up and Blizzard runs their client as some sort of associated client to Steam. (Like there is some kind of main (but optional) connection between the two to mergin gaming experiences. DotA2 and SC can be like STEP Brothers!. Suddenly Blizzard mapmaking community getting a custom game maker influx from the massive valve related modding community! This leads to the true return of SNIPERZ and someone makes the entire dragonball saga ala TWC or Mission to Namek!

Also, entire steam community gets both dota 2 and sc2! New viewers and players!. Best part is, since Valve competitive community = CS, they already can be just as elitist and snobbish as SC community can be....No wait...it could be an elitism multiplier! Oh shit think There will be a elitism about elitism...elitists elitiziing their own elitizim to set their elite status appart from other elite statuses based solely on how elite they are!.

This must happen for the sake of all that is good and righteous in this world. If not, what do we have left to live for?


After reading this, I think I need to lie down. Oh dear.
Riddles in the Dark. Answers in the Light.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
June 04 2013 11:08 GMT
#25
Actually looks really nice. Hopefully it functions well.

Personally I'm not particularly bothered by all these launcher programs. My PC can handle these things pretty easily and I don't find them inconvenient at all.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12398 Posts
June 04 2013 11:19 GMT
#26
I hope they won't slow down the time needed to get into a game.
That being said, maybe they can move a lot from the in-game menu and more rooms for other things like customisation limitation?
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Maxil
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11 Posts
June 04 2013 11:26 GMT
#27
What I would really like is to be able to go directly into a game from here. Like click a SC2 tab which takes you to a screen where you can choose a race, then choose what type of game you want to play. They link you to opponents via launcher and game opens directly to map load.

Savage88
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany132 Posts
June 04 2013 12:02 GMT
#28
Can this please stop? I'm already forced to use Steam, Origin and uPlay...
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 12:13:35
June 04 2013 12:13 GMT
#29
Microtransactions, imbedded streams, and a WCS hub, as well as being able to finally fucking be able to have all your real ids across all servers. Im all for this change, so long as sc2switcher.exe still works ;p
@MasterDalK | Maelstrom Entertainment | Streaming Every Esport Under the Sun
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 12:31:44
June 04 2013 12:31 GMT
#30
On June 04 2013 19:16 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 19:07 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On June 04 2013 19:00 Kokosaft wrote:
On June 04 2013 18:57 Targe wrote:
Why would Blizz team with Valve with Blizzard Allstars coming out?


why would valve team up with blizz when dominating the digital distribution market for pc games ?


Great questions! Thanks for the response. Now shut up and listen to my revelation.

1. Blizzard does not effect valves digital distribution domination. Valve will never sell or control blizzards IP's, and I doubt 3rd party devs want to regularly deal with activitison when it comes to developing IPs. Also, this cross promotion could be limited to SC2.

2. Blizzard all-stars is not targeted as an "esport" afaik. It could be the Gun-game, to valves De_dust2. They would get some attention as a hot and sexy alternative to Dota2 for a short while. which is better in valves eyes then boosting up LoL populations.

3. Im a genius with an I.Q. of infinity. My logic is flawless even if you can not comprhend my greatness. You may worship me, I will not stop you. But I will not listen for I cannot hear you over my blasting of Jock Jams Volume 4.

Wat.

Blizzard Allstars will directly contend with Dota 2 for popularity, Valve wouldn't support that, Valve doesn't share the same hate for LoL as the SC2 community and their Dota 2 player base will not be threatened by LoL as the majority of Dota 2 players who will actually purchase items will look down on LoL.

3. Is funny.


I have seen more hate toward LoL from Dota community than SC.
roym899
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany426 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 12:41:39
June 04 2013 12:41 GMT
#31
I like it because it may bring more people into SC2 when there are sales like there are in steam.
Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
June 04 2013 13:30 GMT
#32
Is this like Steam where you can update your profile?
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
June 04 2013 13:35 GMT
#33
On June 04 2013 20:08 Brett wrote:
Actually looks really nice. Hopefully it functions well.

Personally I'm not particularly bothered by all these launcher programs. My PC can handle these things pretty easily and I don't find them inconvenient at all.


That's not the problem, but the accounts you have to make. Right now I have Steam, GoG and Blizzard. I'm not making anymore accounts. If a game is released outside of those, I'm not buying it.
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
MrGh0st
Profile Joined March 2013
United States35 Posts
June 04 2013 14:08 GMT
#34
SWEET!

Maybe after Blizzard gets all their games on one central Digital Distribution platform, they can flood it with shitty side-scrolling platformer Indie games!

HOORAY!
HOW THICK WAS THE GLASS?!
monkh
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
June 04 2013 14:15 GMT
#35
On June 04 2013 18:30 Sissors wrote:
I dislike it with Steam, I dislike it with Origin (Although I am part of the minority who rather has Origin than Steam as lesser of two evils), and I will dislike it with battle.net if you have to use it to use SC2.



How is Origin the lesser of the 2 evils?


I hope new Blizzard desktop client is more like a LoL client than Steam so I'm able to queue from desktop not load an unneeded bulky menu system.
Daeden.620
kidrobotx
Profile Joined March 2013
United States7 Posts
June 04 2013 14:18 GMT
#36
Does this mean we're one step closer to having a B.net chat client?
fuck the police
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 14:23:23
June 04 2013 14:22 GMT
#37
On June 04 2013 21:31 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 19:16 Targe wrote:
On June 04 2013 19:07 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On June 04 2013 19:00 Kokosaft wrote:
On June 04 2013 18:57 Targe wrote:
Why would Blizz team with Valve with Blizzard Allstars coming out?


why would valve team up with blizz when dominating the digital distribution market for pc games ?


Great questions! Thanks for the response. Now shut up and listen to my revelation.

1. Blizzard does not effect valves digital distribution domination. Valve will never sell or control blizzards IP's, and I doubt 3rd party devs want to regularly deal with activitison when it comes to developing IPs. Also, this cross promotion could be limited to SC2.

2. Blizzard all-stars is not targeted as an "esport" afaik. It could be the Gun-game, to valves De_dust2. They would get some attention as a hot and sexy alternative to Dota2 for a short while. which is better in valves eyes then boosting up LoL populations.

3. Im a genius with an I.Q. of infinity. My logic is flawless even if you can not comprhend my greatness. You may worship me, I will not stop you. But I will not listen for I cannot hear you over my blasting of Jock Jams Volume 4.

Wat.

Blizzard Allstars will directly contend with Dota 2 for popularity, Valve wouldn't support that, Valve doesn't share the same hate for LoL as the SC2 community and their Dota 2 player base will not be threatened by LoL as the majority of Dota 2 players who will actually purchase items will look down on LoL.

3. Is funny.


I have seen more hate toward LoL from Dota community than SC.


I'm talking about Valve as a company, not the Dota community, Valve obviously don't share that hate.

On June 04 2013 23:15 monkh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 18:30 Sissors wrote:
I dislike it with Steam, I dislike it with Origin (Although I am part of the minority who rather has Origin than Steam as lesser of two evils), and I will dislike it with battle.net if you have to use it to use SC2.



How is Origin the lesser of the 2 evils?


I hope new Blizzard desktop client is more like a LoL client than Steam so I'm able to queue from desktop not load an unneeded bulky menu system.



No way! God I hate the LoL system of doing things.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 14:28:25
June 04 2013 14:27 GMT
#38
On June 04 2013 23:15 monkh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 18:30 Sissors wrote:
I dislike it with Steam, I dislike it with Origin (Although I am part of the minority who rather has Origin than Steam as lesser of two evils), and I will dislike it with battle.net if you have to use it to use SC2.



How is Origin the lesser of the 2 evils?


I hope new Blizzard desktop client is more like a LoL client than Steam so I'm able to queue from desktop not load an unneeded bulky menu system.

Because I have had less issues with Origin preventing me from playing than steam. Both are unnecesary, but my experience is that Steam is more often irritating me with for example updates. I dislike that I need Origin, but imo it is more a background program than Steam.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
June 04 2013 14:32 GMT
#39
On June 04 2013 23:27 Sissors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 23:15 monkh wrote:
On June 04 2013 18:30 Sissors wrote:
I dislike it with Steam, I dislike it with Origin (Although I am part of the minority who rather has Origin than Steam as lesser of two evils), and I will dislike it with battle.net if you have to use it to use SC2.



How is Origin the lesser of the 2 evils?


I hope new Blizzard desktop client is more like a LoL client than Steam so I'm able to queue from desktop not load an unneeded bulky menu system.

Because I have had less issues with Origin preventing me from playing than steam. Both are unnecesary, but my experience is that Steam is more often irritating me with for example updates. I dislike that I need Origin, but imo it is more a background program than Steam.


It takes a little work but steam and valve games in particular are some of the most open-to-the-user games out right now. I used to hate steam, and there are some faults, but the good stuff way outweighs the bad imo. I mean, their sales alone justify steam for me. Getting a relatively new game for 70% off around the time of a big release cycle is nuts.
GhostFiber
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia88 Posts
June 04 2013 14:37 GMT
#40
On June 04 2013 18:57 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Or maybe Valve and Blizzard team up and Blizzard runs their client as some sort of associated client to Steam.


Blizzard are in short supply of friends if you haven't noticed. Valve certainly aren't buddies.

If you know the relationship Valve has had with Activision/Vivendi, you will know this will never ever happen.
Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
June 04 2013 14:44 GMT
#41
On June 04 2013 23:32 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 23:27 Sissors wrote:
On June 04 2013 23:15 monkh wrote:
On June 04 2013 18:30 Sissors wrote:
I dislike it with Steam, I dislike it with Origin (Although I am part of the minority who rather has Origin than Steam as lesser of two evils), and I will dislike it with battle.net if you have to use it to use SC2.



How is Origin the lesser of the 2 evils?


I hope new Blizzard desktop client is more like a LoL client than Steam so I'm able to queue from desktop not load an unneeded bulky menu system.

Because I have had less issues with Origin preventing me from playing than steam. Both are unnecesary, but my experience is that Steam is more often irritating me with for example updates. I dislike that I need Origin, but imo it is more a background program than Steam.


It takes a little work but steam and valve games in particular are some of the most open-to-the-user games out right now. I used to hate steam, and there are some faults, but the good stuff way outweighs the bad imo. I mean, their sales alone justify steam for me. Getting a relatively new game for 70% off around the time of a big release cycle is nuts.

Tbh any triple A title at steam generally is way more expensive than just in the local store, let alone webstores. Stuff like indiegames when they have sale are indeed really cheap on Steam.

But my main problem is that I don't want an online store (to open everytime I launch a game). I don't want a system so I can talk with all my friends when playing different games. I am sure it is nice for people who do want that, but I don't want that they ask me to bend over while they insert something where it doesn't belong.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
June 04 2013 14:48 GMT
#42
ugh :o steam is annoying if you want to just play games. Always torn between the effort to remove the need to have steam on for a game or just let that annoying thing nom on my resources.

Anyway one step closer to Blizzard making money with DLC i suppose, so always bad news.
monkh
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
June 04 2013 14:49 GMT
#43
On June 04 2013 23:37 GhostFiber wrote:
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On June 04 2013 18:57 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Or maybe Valve and Blizzard team up and Blizzard runs their client as some sort of associated client to Steam.


Blizzard are in short supply of friends if you haven't noticed. Valve certainly aren't buddies.

If you know the relationship Valve has had with Activision/Vivendi, you will know this will never ever happen.


Steam constantly has COD adverts on the front page of the store which Activision publishes
Daeden.620
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
June 04 2013 14:53 GMT
#44
I love steam, I don't know if I'm gonna like having multiple clients like that though... Seems tedious to me as I hate having a lot of open windows. I like the embedded streams though.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
eScaper-tsunami
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada313 Posts
June 04 2013 14:55 GMT
#45
Oh god please no. Any launcher is simply redundant. Sure, you may be able to update/patch games by opening the launcher instead of opening the game then forced to restart the game after a patch. However, it's just silly for the purpose especially when the launcher itself frequently needs updating and forced to restart when updated. Then you need to be logged in order to launch any game. And worse of all the launcher is a background program that you can't close while playing and you have to relaunch it everytime you want to play a game. I'm sure windows is already the ultimate background program that I can't really get rid of. Why do I need a 2nd or 3rd one being an eyesore.
RuhRoh is my herO
GhostFiber
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia88 Posts
June 04 2013 15:05 GMT
#46
On June 04 2013 23:49 monkh wrote:
Steam constantly has COD adverts on the front page of the store which Activision publishes


Activision Blizzard buying Steam advertisement space over other publishers doesn't make them best friends.
thurst0n
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States611 Posts
June 04 2013 15:20 GMT
#47
Some key-points from the link that I feel people didn't read:
Keep in mind this is not an official preview, and many, many, many things will change before release.

-This replaces the launcher for all Blizzard games, and works similar to the current launchers, with background updates, repair tool, and more.
-Chat with Battle.net friends across every Battle.net enabled game.
-News - You can see all of the news from the various Battle.net game sites in the client


I'm not sure about this, first instinct is that I do not like it, though I am always wary of change..

On June 04 2013 19:11 KenZo- wrote:

You can bypass the "PLAY screen" by opening SC2Switcher in "C:\Program Files (x86)\StarCraft II EU\Support\SC2Switcher.exe" instead, for directly going into the game.. ^^



Great trick, thank you. I hope this will still work with the new launcher/client. I also hope blizz makes it a very very small footprint.
P.S. I'm nub. If you'd like you can follow me @xthurst but its not worth it ill be honest
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
June 04 2013 16:12 GMT
#48
On June 04 2013 18:30 Sissors wrote:
I dislike it with Steam, I dislike it with Origin (Although I am part of the minority who rather has Origin than Steam as lesser of two evils), and I will dislike it with battle.net if you have to use it to use SC2.

How is the program that scans your whole computer without asking for permission the lesser evil?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 04 2013 16:21 GMT
#49
On June 05 2013 01:12 Assirra wrote:
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On June 04 2013 18:30 Sissors wrote:
I dislike it with Steam, I dislike it with Origin (Although I am part of the minority who rather has Origin than Steam as lesser of two evils), and I will dislike it with battle.net if you have to use it to use SC2.

How is the program that scans your whole computer without asking for permission the lesser evil?

I don't know how anyone can dislike Valve and Steam. Sure if you don't like DRM, I guess thats fine, but its not like Valve isn't being totally up front with what they are doing.

The desktop battle.net is a great idea. Easier to modify, easier to use and allows players to run it in the background. I love Steam for hoping into Dota games and contacting people are not in client. Hopefully it hits us soon.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
June 04 2013 16:27 GMT
#50
This looks really exciting!
@Munck
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
June 04 2013 16:50 GMT
#51
On June 04 2013 23:37 GhostFiber wrote:
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On June 04 2013 18:57 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Or maybe Valve and Blizzard team up and Blizzard runs their client as some sort of associated client to Steam.


Blizzard are in short supply of friends if you haven't noticed. Valve certainly aren't buddies.

If you know the relationship Valve has had with Activision/Vivendi, you will know this will never ever happen.


I just don't like the idea of everyone running independent clients as a prerequisite to playing their brand of game. I like if there were a few, but too many straight up competitions with no synergy result in cannibalizing games based on erroneous factors outside the game itself. Like when everyone jumped on the subscription bandwagon (as still do to a point). People are not going to manage 5 or 6 subscriptions for games (average consumer), similarly, people are not going to manage 4 or 5 clients.

Maybe we can hope Valve buys Blizzard away from activision/vivendi. I always thought they approached games similarly, at least compared to blizzard/activision.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
June 04 2013 16:56 GMT
#52
Never liked the steam style honestly. As others have stated, hopefully it's optional.
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wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
June 04 2013 17:09 GMT
#53
I hope this allows me to talk to my clan mates and interact in general with SC2 without having that system hog running if I don't intend to play games or watch replays.
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Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 17:11:51
June 04 2013 17:11 GMT
#54
On June 05 2013 01:12 Assirra wrote:
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On June 04 2013 18:30 Sissors wrote:
I dislike it with Steam, I dislike it with Origin (Although I am part of the minority who rather has Origin than Steam as lesser of two evils), and I will dislike it with battle.net if you have to use it to use SC2.

How is the program that scans your whole computer without asking for permission the lesser evil?

Because they both do it? That is just intended behavior to make a list of installed games. You gave permission for it by accepting the EULA. IIRC in the beginning Origin might have had some bugs with that scanning process so it went to wrong locations, but really that is the last thing I worry about. It is the lesser of two evils since it runs (/ran) more on the background.

And really all that whining about some scanning of Origin, and a EULA that apparently was written by Satan himself was a bit hypocrite considering that all came from BF3 players who also accepted the PunkBuster EULA. Which is a fairly simple EULA: We are allowed to gather all your HDD and all your memory contents and transmit them to our servers, are you okay with that? How anyone could agree to that but worry about the Origin EULA is a mystery to me.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 04 2013 17:52 GMT
#55
so basically all this is useful for is to chat with people on bnet
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emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
June 04 2013 18:16 GMT
#56
On June 04 2013 23:48 FeyFey wrote:
ugh :o steam is annoying if you want to just play games. Always torn between the effort to remove the need to have steam on for a game or just let that annoying thing nom on my resources.

Anyway one step closer to Blizzard making money with DLC i suppose, so always bad news.


I dont see how steam is annoying if you just want to play games. It loads at startup, most serious PC users rarely reboot their machine except for crashes, so its not like you have to wait for it to load all the time, you just leave it running while you are doing everything else, since while idle you dont even notice its there.

When it comes to loading up games, you just create shortcuts, i have all my steam games on my rocketdock bar, I only ever actually open up steam when I need to do something in steam. I really dont see what all the complaining is about, you guys just want something to complain about because you obviously can't take the great platform Steam have given you for what it is but must somehow find fault in it just because it gives you extra features... never in my life have i ever complained because I got all this cool shit, for free, on top of the game I want to play.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
June 04 2013 18:42 GMT
#57
I feel like only the chart is a useful function of it.
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
June 04 2013 18:57 GMT
#58
On June 04 2013 18:18 Cokefreak wrote:
I hope it's optional to have...


Seconded. Having to log into this shit before logging into Starcraft would really annoy me. Also, considering I don't play WoW & D3 and won't be playing Blizzard All-Stars (if they end up releasing it at all), something like this is basically wasted. God, I hope they don't force us to have this.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 04 2013 19:38 GMT
#59
It's a good thing.
There's a reason why people like having LoL in a client like this
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
thurst0n
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States611 Posts
June 05 2013 00:55 GMT
#60
On June 05 2013 03:57 dUTtrOACh wrote:
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On June 04 2013 18:18 Cokefreak wrote:
I hope it's optional to have...


Seconded. Having to log into this shit before logging into Starcraft would really annoy me. Also, considering I don't play WoW & D3 and won't be playing Blizzard All-Stars (if they end up releasing it at all), something like this is basically wasted. God, I hope they don't force us to have this.


This is not optional from what I can tell. If you read the link it's going to REPLACE the existing launcher.

It's still not a waste imo because you'll be able to chat with your friend who is in game, without launching the game itself. Also, you will have access to the news and probably live streams straight from this client which is great for people who aren't aware of the competitive scene. I still think it's redundant, but this is going to be the way of the future, this is how companies want to do it to keep track of their users in addition to keeping everyone more connected.

I think we need to wait until something is more permanent and certain before really judging this though.
P.S. I'm nub. If you'd like you can follow me @xthurst but its not worth it ill be honest
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
June 05 2013 04:27 GMT
#61
On June 05 2013 04:38 Noocta wrote:
It's a good thing.
There's a reason why people like having LoL in a client like this


Do people really like LoL client UI?
Tivu
Profile Joined February 2012
United States244 Posts
June 05 2013 04:30 GMT
#62
Looks pretty cool
Savage88
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany132 Posts
June 06 2013 00:35 GMT
#63
On June 05 2013 13:27 larse wrote:
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On June 05 2013 04:38 Noocta wrote:
It's a good thing.
There's a reason why people like having LoL in a client like this


Do people really like LoL client UI?


I think no one has played this terrible game here, so we don't know what you are talking about.

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Cook
Profile Joined May 2011
France130 Posts
June 08 2013 04:58 GMT
#64
So cool. I've been waiting for something like this for so long...
KingdoM123
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden31 Posts
June 08 2013 12:05 GMT
#65
Looks awesome and steam is known for their good desktop client!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 28 2013 21:31 GMT
#66
Finally got invited to beta for this and I'm not impressed.

There is no friends list so you still need to launch the games to chat / check whose online and the games list can't be customized so every game will always be visible in a stupid Blizzard decided order.

The only upside is that you log in once and stay connected so you don't have to retype your password every time you switch games or launch a game.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
July 28 2013 21:53 GMT
#67
On July 29 2013 06:31 skyR wrote:
Finally got invited to beta for this and I'm not impressed.

There is no friends list so you still need to launch the games to chat / check whose online and the games list can't be customized so every game will always be visible in a stupid Blizzard decided order.

The only upside is that you log in once and stay connected so you don't have to retype your password every time you switch games or launch a game.

there will be a friendlist later on

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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
July 28 2013 22:22 GMT
#68
Well, 3-4 games really doesn't need a giant client like this. Or maybe Blizzard is trying to widen their product lineup.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
July 28 2013 22:47 GMT
#69
i want in T_T
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Ahli
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany355 Posts
July 28 2013 22:49 GMT
#70
On July 29 2013 07:22 larse wrote:
Well, 3-4 games really doesn't need a giant client like this. Or maybe Blizzard is trying to widen their product lineup.

Well, Heartstone, Allstars, project titan. Those are 3 more.

Also, the launcher provides instant advertisement for all of their games to people already using at least 1 Blizzard game. It's a great way to raise the awareness of their other games.

I personally would love to be able to join game chat channels and inclusion of the editor to the combined login process. AfaIk, those aspects aren't in the launcher. But it's not a problem if that won't be added, but uploading files to bnet while staying in sc2 would be awesome. Atm, this only works with different accounts or being logged into different regions.
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
July 28 2013 22:52 GMT
#71
it'd be pretty cool if BW integration got added but I doubt it will happen haha
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anessie
Profile Joined August 2011
180 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 01:58:39
July 29 2013 01:47 GMT
#72
I think there was just another invite wave since lots of ppl are using the beta desktop client feedback forums. I just got in myself. Check your trash/spam folders

Not having to type passw/authent code is a blessing.

Just hope it doesn't turn into an origin type application. So far it does run very smooth.

Next steps friend list and then some e-sports tab with lots of updates?

With popup toasts for tournaments you've selected to track with the link to the stream? Bring it on!

Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 02:05:58
July 29 2013 02:05 GMT
#73
On July 29 2013 10:47 anessie wrote:
I think there was just another invite wave since lots of ppl are using the beta desktop client feedback forums. I just got in myself. Check your trash/spam folders

Not having to type passw/authent code is a blessing.

Just hope it doesn't turn into an origin type application. So far it does run very smooth.

Next steps friend list and then some e-sports tab with lots of updates?

With popup toasts for tournaments you've selected to track with the link to the stream? Bring it on!



They definitely could add a lot of functionality to the client. At the top could be a streams(possibly with live chat interface), something akin to the TL calendar(events, mouseover for info, click to reveal streams or something like that),

Just have to find a way to add it without getting rid of the rather clean look they have going right now.
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Brownic
Profile Joined June 2013
Australia69 Posts
July 29 2013 07:20 GMT
#74
I think this is a good direction for Blizzard. It allows them greater flexibility to add cool things to the client and make all of their games feel more unified. It might even help some WoW and D3 players get into SC2 if the starter edition download is only a couple of clicks away. There is so much potential for this new client I just hope Blizz doesn't screw it up.
We make expand, then defense it.
Ender2701
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States581 Posts
July 29 2013 07:24 GMT
#75
As someone who only plays sc2, this isn't very useful. At least it starts up faster than the game does which is nice.

It'd be way more useful if I could chat with friends in game.
Brownic
Profile Joined June 2013
Australia69 Posts
July 29 2013 07:47 GMT
#76
On July 29 2013 16:24 Ender2701 wrote:
As someone who only plays sc2, this isn't very useful. At least it starts up faster than the game does which is nice.

It'd be way more useful if I could chat with friends in game.


As far as I know a chat feature is going to be added.
We make expand, then defense it.
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1092 Posts
July 29 2013 09:48 GMT
#77
One thing that really sucks is changing region requires restarting the game... And switching accounts is an even bigger arse...


The client looks nice and it's cool that I can launch all Blizz games from it (if I wanted) but aside from that it adds very little and makes using multiple accounts a hassle. For it to actually benefit people using it for just sc2 it needs a flash plugin (or something) allow you to use it as a gateway app for twitch so you can watch WCS etc without having to open a browser tab and it needs offline chat for friends and channels.
Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
July 29 2013 13:45 GMT
#78
On July 29 2013 07:22 larse wrote:
Well, 3-4 games really doesn't need a giant client like this. Or maybe Blizzard is trying to widen their product lineup.


This is what I was thinking. I know the new "Titan" IP will be coming out in the distant future, and Hearthstone should be coming out this year (?). So that's 5 games. I don't really think 5 games really warrants having their own platform hub.

Regardless, new stuff so yay!
Chameleons Cast No Shadows
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 29 2013 13:51 GMT
#79
On July 29 2013 22:45 Butterednuts wrote:
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On July 29 2013 07:22 larse wrote:
Well, 3-4 games really doesn't need a giant client like this. Or maybe Blizzard is trying to widen their product lineup.


This is what I was thinking. I know the new "Titan" IP will be coming out in the distant future, and Hearthstone should be coming out this year (?). So that's 5 games. I don't really think 5 games really warrants having their own platform hub.

Regardless, new stuff so yay!

I think Hearthstone is the big one that will use this client and it makes sense to merge everything else in with it. If only they let me link it to my steam friends list. I am only with Blizzard having its own client, but pulling friends from other systems would be the most helpful think they could do.
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DanLee
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada316 Posts
July 29 2013 13:53 GMT
#80
The fact I just click the client then hit play to get into sc2 is all the reason I need to use this, I would complain about features that could/should be here but it's actually so much more convenient that I no longer care.
nty
TXRaunchy
Profile Joined June 2013
United States131 Posts
July 29 2013 14:30 GMT
#81
it's pretty nice, once you have the app and enter your login info, it saves it.
you can pretty much play any of the 3 games by hitting play and not relogging in again.
also you change between the different servers.

pretty nifty. youtube streams on it as well as any new news.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
July 29 2013 14:37 GMT
#82
Wow, this is gonna be sweet.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 29 2013 14:40 GMT
#83
On July 29 2013 23:37 Crownlol wrote:
Wow, this is gonna be sweet.

It is Blizzard's way of getting Streams right on the launcher of SC2 and get it to be more flexable. Plus, chat and messaging that works when your not in client. That is the part I care about most, since it is what lets me get Dota 2 games going. I normally gets 2-3 invites the instant my steam account goes online.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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TyrianSC2
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada52 Posts
July 29 2013 14:52 GMT
#84
I like where this is going. I can see myself using this - bonus points if I can pin my own stuff on there, like /r/starcraft, twitch.tv and teamliquid.net so I have all my goodies in one basket :D Hope that support is considered and implemented
Brownic
Profile Joined June 2013
Australia69 Posts
July 30 2013 12:26 GMT
#85
On July 29 2013 22:51 Plansix wrote:
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On July 29 2013 22:45 Butterednuts wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:22 larse wrote:
Well, 3-4 games really doesn't need a giant client like this. Or maybe Blizzard is trying to widen their product lineup.


This is what I was thinking. I know the new "Titan" IP will be coming out in the distant future, and Hearthstone should be coming out this year (?). So that's 5 games. I don't really think 5 games really warrants having their own platform hub.

Regardless, new stuff so yay!

I think Hearthstone is the big one that will use this client and it makes sense to merge everything else in with it. If only they let me link it to my steam friends list. I am only with Blizzard having its own client, but pulling friends from other systems would be the most helpful think they could do.


Hearthstone, All-stars, Titan eventually I suppose.Blizzard is thinking long term with this so it will fill up with games eventually.

Assuming you are referring to steam, I don't think Valve and Blizzard would be able to cooperate to do something like that, no matter how awesome.
We make expand, then defense it.
Aleteh
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark166 Posts
August 13 2013 06:48 GMT
#86
Anyone got some info on when they add the older games to client ?
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