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Adonminus
Israel543 Posts
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On May 31 2013 18:33 liberate71 wrote: I love how Innovation is like "Oh I havent done perfect games so far, I want do do perfect games" OK BUDDY! I think I actually remember one game in which he forgot to remove one mule from the mineral line before the last incomplete trip. The guy must have felt really shitty watching that replay. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On May 31 2013 18:05 Assirra wrote: Did you seriously based of your conclusions of a betting site instead of actual knowledgeable people? I agree. A few people who know what they're talking about are generally right in what they say, even if a large mass of people who don't know what they're talking about disagree. Some people have said casters may be betting on Soulkey just to keep hype up. While that may be true, I actually see it as Innovation maybe not being as invincible as it's currently portrayed. Innovation himself said that there have been holes in his play, it's just that we "newbies" don't see them. I'm hoping Soulkey wins just because he's the underdog though. | ||
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Sigo
France12 Posts
I want see Soulkey win, but I'm afraid by Innovation's level  I hope. FOR THE SWARM ! | ||
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Tosster
Poland299 Posts
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Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
Q: You're known for your quiet personality. Will you celebrate in some way if you win? Both guys asked the same question, so there´s probably gonna be a huge party after the win, haha.  | ||
opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On May 31 2013 16:46 nimdil wrote: Wasn't creator first wcs Korea champion? oh lol so true haha | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On May 31 2013 18:16 THM wrote: Actually betting sites are often the best place to see the real chances of an outcome as they try the hardest to figure those out, as, you know, if they get them wrong they will actually incur a huge loss due to your "actual knowledgeable people" coming and betting large sums of money on the winning player. Having something to loose doesn't change the fact that they know less then "actual knowledgeable people". A bronze player will never know as much as these casters even if he spends ages figuring it out. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On May 31 2013 17:19 THM wrote: And here are the real chances of both players (according to https://www.pinnaclesports.com/League/E Sports/SC2 GSL/1/Lines.aspx ): Fri 5/31 2001 Innovation 1.377 11:30 PM 2002 Soulkey 3.200 Surprisingly inept predictions from the casters who are supposed to be knowledgeable, or maybe as some people said they are just trying to hype things up. Or maybe these guys just have more knowledge. You know, this being their job and all. | ||
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On May 31 2013 18:16 THM wrote: Actually betting sites are often the best place to see the real chances of an outcome as they try the hardest to figure those out, as, you know, if they get them wrong they will actually incur a huge loss due to your "actual knowledgeable people" coming and betting large sums of money on the winning player. betting site odds are not set by the site themselves, they're based on what people are placing on the outcomes. that's why odds change | ||
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RunningInSquares
United States215 Posts
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
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DBS
515 Posts
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emanresU
Germany393 Posts
On May 31 2013 18:38 Ragnarork wrote: I think I actually remember one game in which he forgot to remove one mule from the mineral line before the last incomplete trip. The guy must have felt really shitty watching that replay. That is some seriously sloppy play right there. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
We'll see if Soulkey indeed manages to outmatch Innovation. | ||
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Fus Ro Dah
Singapore141 Posts
On May 31 2013 17:19 THM wrote: And here are the real chances of both players (according to https://www.pinnaclesports.com/League/E Sports/SC2 GSL/1/Lines.aspx ): Fri 5/31 2001 Innovation 1.377 11:30 PM 2002 Soulkey 3.200 Surprisingly inept predictions from the casters who are supposed to be knowledgeable, or maybe as some people said they are just trying to hype things up. Holy crap, I never knew real money betting existed for SC2!!! | ||
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duckmaster
687 Posts
On May 31 2013 18:21 THM wrote: That's why I said "a harsher example"  In the Federer case the odds would be something like 1.01 for Federer and 25.00 for the other guy. Here as Soulkey is also pretty good it's only 1.37 vs 3.20. Still, if you had the opportunity to bet 10 dollars and would receive 20 dollars if your player won (2.00 vs 2.00 odds) you would be a fool not to bet on Bogus. Hence my surprise at the casters' choices. So in short you think Soulkey is not as good as Bogus. You could say that instead of saying "well if the odds were 2.00 and 2.00 you would be fool not to bet on Bogus" The casters obviously think Soulkey is better. So the point stands: how can you know the predictions are inept if the games haven't even been played yet? You act as if Bogus being better is not a matter of opinion. | ||
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Obender99
United States31 Posts
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
When Soulkey and Flash went head to head, in the first group stage, Soulkey was destroyed 2-0. While Soulkey has gotten better over the one and a half month time span since, so has Innovation, and Innovation was already doing what Flash was doing, but better, stronger multi-tasking, better micro, pinpoint macro. I'm sure Innovation knows about the holes in his gameplay and will do everything in his power to patch them up, if he can play just slightly safer and deny Soulkey from doing critical damage in the early game, then I feel like Innovation will take it in the mid and late game. | ||
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E.L.V.I.S
Belgium458 Posts
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