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On May 31 2013 23:04 Gni wrote:
It's interesting to see that almost everybody in the world sees Innovation as a winning machine that just stomps his opponents every time, and expect him to win the WCS Korea without much of a hassle... Except in Korea, where almost all the casters expect Soulkey to win.
Anyway, I don't have a favourite: I just hope the games will be as exceptional as the players that made it to the finals in what is arguably the hardest SC2 tournament in the world.
Casters = hyping machine. They lied just to make the series seem closer than it will be. I really think innovation at the moment could play super safe behind 3 bunkers and siege tanks, let soulkey take 4 bases and still crush him later on.
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Q: Your mindset going into the final?
A: I wasn't able to show perfect play up to now. There were many engagements that I wasn't pleased with even in games I won. In the finals, I want to show perfect games.
Damn that's scary. Innovation is the closest player to perfection right now, so if he still has a progress margin, I don't think Soulkey even stand a chance.My prediction: 4-1 Innovation with the one loss being an early all-in.
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sorry double post, you can delete
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Interesting to see the korean casters predictions. Maybe we in the west hold innovation higher than they do in Korea. Either way this might very well be the best GSL finals yet.
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On May 31 2013 21:46 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 17:10 Gamegene wrote:On May 31 2013 17:04 stickyhands wrote:Q: How is your team reacting to you reaching the finals?
A: The head coach and coaching staff seem to like it, but the reaction is surprisingly stoic. Are all his team mates jealous? if the rumors of STX being in danger of disbanding because of financial trouble are ture, Innovation definitely the only one guaranteed to be eating steak no matter what happens. or it could just be that they know he's so good that they've just come to expect it. That's certainly curious. I looked up STX's stock price and it's been all over the place this past year. There are recent rumors of being potentially acquired. Oh man, I hope their pro-gaming team won't be affected.
STX has been in steep financial troubles lately.
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Do we all think Innovation is going to win just because of Artosis? Lol, it's weird the Korean commentators don't agree.
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On May 31 2013 23:15 NoobSkills wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 23:04 Gni wrote:
It's interesting to see that almost everybody in the world sees Innovation as a winning machine that just stomps his opponents every time, and expect him to win the WCS Korea without much of a hassle... Except in Korea, where almost all the casters expect Soulkey to win.
Anyway, I don't have a favourite: I just hope the games will be as exceptional as the players that made it to the finals in what is arguably the hardest SC2 tournament in the world. Casters = hyping machine. They lied just to make the series seem closer than it will be. I really think innovation at the moment could play super safe behind 3 bunkers and siege tanks, let soulkey take 4 bases and still crush him later on.
I love how people even claim they are lying. Maybe they know their stuff better then your average player?
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On June 01 2013 00:02 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 23:15 NoobSkills wrote:On May 31 2013 23:04 Gni wrote:
It's interesting to see that almost everybody in the world sees Innovation as a winning machine that just stomps his opponents every time, and expect him to win the WCS Korea without much of a hassle... Except in Korea, where almost all the casters expect Soulkey to win.
Anyway, I don't have a favourite: I just hope the games will be as exceptional as the players that made it to the finals in what is arguably the hardest SC2 tournament in the world. Casters = hyping machine. They lied just to make the series seem closer than it will be. I really think innovation at the moment could play super safe behind 3 bunkers and siege tanks, let soulkey take 4 bases and still crush him later on. I love how people even claim they are lying. Maybe they know their stuff better then your average player?
No in this case they are simply either lying or they arent very good.
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Interesting predictions, like them though. It's gonna be one hell of a Final I'm sure!
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I wonder if the casters are favouring Soulkey in order to create some tension? As it is most people see Innovation taking it. Not that Soulkey in any way isn't capable of doing it, I just don't see how he could be favoured.
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On May 31 2013 14:19 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +Q: What are Innovation's strengths and weaknesses?
A: He has solid fundamentals and is good at macro games. For weaknesses, as we saw from his series against Symbol, it seems like he can be shaken by early all-ins. Soulkey, don't go pure roach, for the sake of our entertainment. Please.
LOL i feel u bro
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On June 01 2013 00:15 drugsarebad wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 00:02 Assirra wrote:On May 31 2013 23:15 NoobSkills wrote:On May 31 2013 23:04 Gni wrote:
It's interesting to see that almost everybody in the world sees Innovation as a winning machine that just stomps his opponents every time, and expect him to win the WCS Korea without much of a hassle... Except in Korea, where almost all the casters expect Soulkey to win.
Anyway, I don't have a favourite: I just hope the games will be as exceptional as the players that made it to the finals in what is arguably the hardest SC2 tournament in the world. Casters = hyping machine. They lied just to make the series seem closer than it will be. I really think innovation at the moment could play super safe behind 3 bunkers and siege tanks, let soulkey take 4 bases and still crush him later on. I love how people even claim they are lying. Maybe they know their stuff better then your average player? No in this case they are simply either lying or they arent very good.
Yup, clearly you know better then people that have been doing this as a job for ages.
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On June 01 2013 00:21 Rjlraymond wrote:
I wonder if the casters are favouring Soulkey in order to create some tension? As it is most people see Innovation taking it. Not that Soulkey in any way isn't capable of doing it, I just don't see how he could be favoured.
I think the important thing to note is that FBH said it best with game 1 being a deciding factor. I agree that if Soulkey plays proper mind games then he wins this series. A strong prepared all in on Star Station can really mess with Innovation and rattle him a bit. Open the games up a bit for 2 and 3. I think as long as Soulkey has builds centered around certain maps to rattle Innovation he can really take this.
But if game 1 is just a standard game, it will allow Innovation the time to get comfortable in the hot seat and ease out the series 4-2. But obviously we will have to wait and see!
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Has Gom ever done this before? Very interesting, I like that they did this. Can't wait for the finals.. gogo Innovation~
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On June 01 2013 00:15 drugsarebad wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 00:02 Assirra wrote:On May 31 2013 23:15 NoobSkills wrote:On May 31 2013 23:04 Gni wrote:
It's interesting to see that almost everybody in the world sees Innovation as a winning machine that just stomps his opponents every time, and expect him to win the WCS Korea without much of a hassle... Except in Korea, where almost all the casters expect Soulkey to win.
Anyway, I don't have a favourite: I just hope the games will be as exceptional as the players that made it to the finals in what is arguably the hardest SC2 tournament in the world. Casters = hyping machine. They lied just to make the series seem closer than it will be. I really think innovation at the moment could play super safe behind 3 bunkers and siege tanks, let soulkey take 4 bases and still crush him later on. I love how people even claim they are lying. Maybe they know their stuff better then your average player? No in this case they are simply either lying or they arent very good.
I wonder how much Starcraft you must watch to be able to say that about the casters of the most prestigious Starcraft 2 tournament in the world.
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People are only half right about bookmakers odds. Yes the market ultimately decides the price but starting points must be set and in low liquidity markets the line does not approach the true market odds always. Sc2 is likely an extremely low volume market and therefore that price is not dictated by the punters by as large a degree as say the superbowl or champions league final. Also remeber just like aligulac the market even when low volume tends to be better at predicting outcomes than even individual experts. That is why there are so few professional sports bettors. In general the lower the market volume wise the less accurate the prediction. However if innovation is so favoured on pinnacle and people strongly disagree and defer to the experts they should be willing to bet large sums on soulkey.
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makes me feel like korean casters arent hyping innovation as much as tastosis is
but yeah it will be a very close fight thats for sure, I say 4-3 innovation because I think we have enough zerg GSL champions for a while
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If bogus doen't forget to make widow mines and hellbats, I really don't see him losing
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I really hope this series doesn't come down to Soulkey roach all-inning in three or four games or something. Terrible from an entertainment perspective. However, I've never found Soulkey entertaining. He seems to really just like to turtle up to an insane degree and get an unkillable army. Innovation, on the other hand, is a bit more dramatic and has a flair to his games that I really like.
Anyway, I'm gonna go with 4-3 Innovation but I can see where the casters came up with their predictions.
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