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NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1600 Posts
May 31 2013 14:15 GMT
#101
On May 31 2013 23:04 Gni wrote:
It's interesting to see that almost everybody in the world sees Innovation as a winning machine that just stomps his opponents every time, and expect him to win the WCS Korea without much of a hassle... Except in Korea, where almost all the casters expect Soulkey to win.

Anyway, I don't have a favourite: I just hope the games will be as exceptional as the players that made it to the finals in what is arguably the hardest SC2 tournament in the world.


Casters = hyping machine. They lied just to make the series seem closer than it will be. I really think innovation at the moment could play super safe behind 3 bunkers and siege tanks, let soulkey take 4 bases and still crush him later on.
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
May 31 2013 14:18 GMT
#102
Q: Your mindset going into the final?
A: I wasn't able to show perfect play up to now. There were many engagements that I wasn't pleased with even in games I won. In the finals, I want to show perfect games.


Damn that's scary. Innovation is the closest player to perfection right now, so if he still has a progress margin, I don't think Soulkey even stand a chance.My prediction: 4-1 Innovation with the one loss being an early all-in.
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 14:21:02
May 31 2013 14:20 GMT
#103
sorry double post, you can delete
PerryHooter
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden268 Posts
May 31 2013 14:30 GMT
#104
Interesting to see the korean casters predictions. Maybe we in the west hold innovation higher than they do in Korea. Either way this might very well be the best GSL finals yet.
"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt"
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
May 31 2013 14:32 GMT
#105
On May 31 2013 21:46 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 17:10 Gamegene wrote:
On May 31 2013 17:04 stickyhands wrote:
Q: How is your team reacting to you reaching the finals?
A: The head coach and coaching staff seem to like it, but the reaction is surprisingly stoic.

Are all his team mates jealous?


if the rumors of STX being in danger of disbanding because of financial trouble are ture, Innovation definitely the only one guaranteed to be eating steak no matter what happens.

or it could just be that they know he's so good that they've just come to expect it.


That's certainly curious. I looked up STX's stock price and it's been all over the place this past year.
There are recent rumors of being potentially acquired. Oh man, I hope their pro-gaming team won't be affected.


STX has been in steep financial troubles lately.
It takes a fool to remain sane.
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
May 31 2013 14:41 GMT
#106
It's gon' be da shit!
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
FatkiddsLag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States413 Posts
May 31 2013 14:52 GMT
#107
Do we all think Innovation is going to win just because of Artosis? Lol, it's weird the Korean commentators don't agree.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
May 31 2013 15:02 GMT
#108
On May 31 2013 23:15 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 23:04 Gni wrote:
It's interesting to see that almost everybody in the world sees Innovation as a winning machine that just stomps his opponents every time, and expect him to win the WCS Korea without much of a hassle... Except in Korea, where almost all the casters expect Soulkey to win.

Anyway, I don't have a favourite: I just hope the games will be as exceptional as the players that made it to the finals in what is arguably the hardest SC2 tournament in the world.


Casters = hyping machine. They lied just to make the series seem closer than it will be. I really think innovation at the moment could play super safe behind 3 bunkers and siege tanks, let soulkey take 4 bases and still crush him later on.

I love how people even claim they are lying. Maybe they know their stuff better then your average player?
drugsarebad
Profile Joined January 2013
20 Posts
May 31 2013 15:15 GMT
#109
On June 01 2013 00:02 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 23:15 NoobSkills wrote:
On May 31 2013 23:04 Gni wrote:
It's interesting to see that almost everybody in the world sees Innovation as a winning machine that just stomps his opponents every time, and expect him to win the WCS Korea without much of a hassle... Except in Korea, where almost all the casters expect Soulkey to win.

Anyway, I don't have a favourite: I just hope the games will be as exceptional as the players that made it to the finals in what is arguably the hardest SC2 tournament in the world.


Casters = hyping machine. They lied just to make the series seem closer than it will be. I really think innovation at the moment could play super safe behind 3 bunkers and siege tanks, let soulkey take 4 bases and still crush him later on.

I love how people even claim they are lying. Maybe they know their stuff better then your average player?


No in this case they are simply either lying or they arent very good.
Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
May 31 2013 15:18 GMT
#110
Interesting predictions, like them though. It's gonna be one hell of a Final I'm sure!
twitter.com/pimpmuckl
Rjlraymond
Profile Joined December 2012
40 Posts
May 31 2013 15:21 GMT
#111
I wonder if the casters are favouring Soulkey in order to create some tension? As it is most people see Innovation taking it. Not that Soulkey in any way isn't capable of doing it, I just don't see how he could be favoured.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44230 Posts
May 31 2013 15:28 GMT
#112
On May 31 2013 14:19 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
Q: What are Innovation's strengths and weaknesses?
A: He has solid fundamentals and is good at macro games. For weaknesses, as we saw from his series against Symbol, it seems like he can be shaken by early all-ins.

Soulkey, don't go pure roach, for the sake of our entertainment. Please.


LOL i feel u bro
this is a quote
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
May 31 2013 15:43 GMT
#113
On June 01 2013 00:15 drugsarebad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 00:02 Assirra wrote:
On May 31 2013 23:15 NoobSkills wrote:
On May 31 2013 23:04 Gni wrote:
It's interesting to see that almost everybody in the world sees Innovation as a winning machine that just stomps his opponents every time, and expect him to win the WCS Korea without much of a hassle... Except in Korea, where almost all the casters expect Soulkey to win.

Anyway, I don't have a favourite: I just hope the games will be as exceptional as the players that made it to the finals in what is arguably the hardest SC2 tournament in the world.


Casters = hyping machine. They lied just to make the series seem closer than it will be. I really think innovation at the moment could play super safe behind 3 bunkers and siege tanks, let soulkey take 4 bases and still crush him later on.

I love how people even claim they are lying. Maybe they know their stuff better then your average player?


No in this case they are simply either lying or they arent very good.

Yup, clearly you know better then people that have been doing this as a job for ages.
Hoodlum
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 15:50:31
May 31 2013 15:48 GMT
#114
On June 01 2013 00:21 Rjlraymond wrote:
I wonder if the casters are favouring Soulkey in order to create some tension? As it is most people see Innovation taking it. Not that Soulkey in any way isn't capable of doing it, I just don't see how he could be favoured.


I think the important thing to note is that FBH said it best with game 1 being a deciding factor. I agree that if Soulkey plays proper mind games then he wins this series. A strong prepared all in on Star Station can really mess with Innovation and rattle him a bit. Open the games up a bit for 2 and 3. I think as long as Soulkey has builds centered around certain maps to rattle Innovation he can really take this.

But if game 1 is just a standard game, it will allow Innovation the time to get comfortable in the hot seat and ease out the series 4-2. But obviously we will have to wait and see!
xO gaming owner
MurDeRsc2
Profile Joined May 2010
133 Posts
May 31 2013 15:59 GMT
#115
Has Gom ever done this before? Very interesting, I like that they did this. Can't wait for the finals.. gogo Innovation~
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
May 31 2013 16:02 GMT
#116
On June 01 2013 00:15 drugsarebad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 00:02 Assirra wrote:
On May 31 2013 23:15 NoobSkills wrote:
On May 31 2013 23:04 Gni wrote:
It's interesting to see that almost everybody in the world sees Innovation as a winning machine that just stomps his opponents every time, and expect him to win the WCS Korea without much of a hassle... Except in Korea, where almost all the casters expect Soulkey to win.

Anyway, I don't have a favourite: I just hope the games will be as exceptional as the players that made it to the finals in what is arguably the hardest SC2 tournament in the world.


Casters = hyping machine. They lied just to make the series seem closer than it will be. I really think innovation at the moment could play super safe behind 3 bunkers and siege tanks, let soulkey take 4 bases and still crush him later on.

I love how people even claim they are lying. Maybe they know their stuff better then your average player?


No in this case they are simply either lying or they arent very good.

I wonder how much Starcraft you must watch to be able to say that about the casters of the most prestigious Starcraft 2 tournament in the world.
Long live the King of Wings
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 16:11:29
May 31 2013 16:10 GMT
#117
People are only half right about bookmakers odds. Yes the market ultimately decides the price but starting points must be set and in low liquidity markets the line does not approach the true market odds always. Sc2 is likely an extremely low volume market and therefore that price is not dictated by the punters by as large a degree as say the superbowl or champions league final. Also remeber just like aligulac the market even when low volume tends to be better at predicting outcomes than even individual experts. That is why there are so few professional sports bettors. In general the lower the market volume wise the less accurate the prediction. However if innovation is so favoured on pinnacle and people strongly disagree and defer to the experts they should be willing to bet large sums on soulkey.
Red and yellow are all I see
uh-oh
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Hong Kong135 Posts
May 31 2013 16:23 GMT
#118
makes me feel like korean casters arent hyping innovation as much as tastosis is
but yeah it will be a very close fight thats for sure, I say 4-3 innovation because I think we have enough zerg GSL champions for a while
When I get to grandmasters, you have my permission to die!
GoodSirTets
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada200 Posts
May 31 2013 16:38 GMT
#119
If bogus doen't forget to make widow mines and hellbats, I really don't see him losing
High Diamond/ Low Masters :^)
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 31 2013 17:02 GMT
#120
I really hope this series doesn't come down to Soulkey roach all-inning in three or four games or something. Terrible from an entertainment perspective. However, I've never found Soulkey entertaining. He seems to really just like to turtle up to an insane degree and get an unkillable army. Innovation, on the other hand, is a bit more dramatic and has a flair to his games that I really like.

Anyway, I'm gonna go with 4-3 Innovation but I can see where the casters came up with their predictions.
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