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On June 01 2013 02:02 Darkhoarse wrote:
I really hope this series doesn't come down to Soulkey roach all-inning in three or four games or something. Terrible from an entertainment perspective. However, I've never found Soulkey entertaining. He seems to really just like to turtle up to an insane degree and get an unkillable army. Innovation, on the other hand, is a bit more dramatic and has a flair to his games that I really like.
Anyway, I'm gonna go with 4-3 Innovation but I can see where the casters came up with their predictions.
I guess you never saw his TvZ. The games they played in Proleague had Soulkey doing Baneling runby's all game long, in the first game he managed to deny the 4th and eventually safely transition into hive wich allowed him to kill Innovation. The 2nd game had him overcommit too much into these things, hence why he was stuck in lair tech. He did manage to snipe the third but wasn't ready for the inevitable counter push.
His TvZ style is far from turtle mode.
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On June 01 2013 02:02 Darkhoarse wrote:
I really hope this series doesn't come down to Soulkey roach all-inning in three or four games or something. Terrible from an entertainment perspective. However, I've never found Soulkey entertaining. He seems to really just like to turtle up to an insane degree and get an unkillable army. Innovation, on the other hand, is a bit more dramatic and has a flair to his games that I really like.
Anyway, I'm gonna go with 4-3 Innovation but I can see where the casters came up with their predictions.
I can't say it for sure cause I've not watched all of them, but the ZvT's I watched Soukey were far from turtle mode. Against Innovation on Proleague (last week, I think?) he did a lot of bling runby, for example. Twas a really good game.
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i'm waiting for kim carrier to make a pick so i can bet for the opposite.
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This will be the highest level hots played yet. Can't wait! I think I'll actually stay up for this. Even though I'm Protoss.
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soulkey is so effin good yo i think he will win to
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i honestly don´t see a world in witch inno will lose this, but i´m crossing my fingers for the swarm... as usual! 
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On May 31 2013 14:19 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +Q: What are Innovation's strengths and weaknesses?
A: He has solid fundamentals and is good at macro games. For weaknesses, as we saw from his series against Symbol, it seems like he can be shaken by early all-ins. Soulkey, don't go pure roach, for the sake of our entertainment. Please.
Tell Innovation to not go marines..
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i'm more excited for this match than any in sc2 so far, and i play protoss. well, maybe group B was comparable but this final is going to be so good
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Does anyone remember the last time we saw a PvZ?
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On May 31 2013 14:20 Dreamer.T wrote:
I'm surprised that Soulkey has more of an edge with the GSL casters than Innovation. They do however bring up valid points.
and I think a lot of you guys underestimate how good SK really is. ._. He's very well-rounded and I'm sure he's going to give Bogus a good run for his money because SK can play a lot of different styles.
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I'm surprised the Korean casters are favoring Soulkey here. I'd be really surprised if Soulkey can take more than 2 games off of Innovation.
I'd say 4-1 Innovation, ezpz. Bring on the games, should be a really high level TvZ, and I'm so glad we don't have to endure another ZvZ final.
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Both players have really good records in proleague and just from games where they play each other they look evenly matched I think its impossible to predict. Innovation is not as big a favorite as the hype is predicting. Soulkey said innovation looked weak to early all ins so I think soulkey is going to use at least a few of them, and if terran does not spot a baneling all in its pretty much game I mean its impossible to hold without early bunkers.
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On June 01 2013 02:02 Darkhoarse wrote:
I really hope this series doesn't come down to Soulkey roach all-inning in three or four games or something. Terrible from an entertainment perspective. However, I've never found Soulkey entertaining. He seems to really just like to turtle up to an insane degree and get an unkillable army. Innovation, on the other hand, is a bit more dramatic and has a flair to his games that I really like.
Anyway, I'm gonna go with 4-3 Innovation but I can see where the casters came up with their predictions.
You're clearly thinking of a different Zerg.
edit: If any Zerg has a chance of taking down Innovation in macro games, I believe it would be SoulKey. Not only that, but his style create very, very good games. SoulKey will undoubtedly be able to take every game past Innovation's 13:30 marine / mine / medivac parade. If we get a 4-3 or even a 4-2 either way, I think we could potentially have the best GSL finals in history.
However, if Innovation has got a solid grasp on countering SoulKey's typical constant ling / bling counter attacks and if SoulKey doesn't figure out a way to get hive tech on 4+ bases without dieing to constant drops, we could be in for a 4-1 or 4-0 victory from Innovation in games that look really close but end the same, with SoulKey falling apart to Innovation's multitasking around the 20-25 minute mark.
I can't really see SoulKey taking it 4-1 or 4-0, but I suppose it's possible if SoulKey gets some good baneling hits or comes up with a new way of holding 4+ bases vs mass bio drops while still being able to do his counter attacks.
Either way, I doubt we'll see more than 1 all-in from either player, and if it is done it will be more as a 'make sure you're scouting' sort of thing. SoulKey's scouting is impeccable so I highly doubt he'd die to any sort of timing attack, Innovation might lose a game to a good timing attack if he auto-pilot 3cc's without scouting thoroughly.
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Why are they saying FireBatHero copped out? He said Innovation will win regardless! I guess it's just that he didn't agree to giving an exact scoreline, but I don't know that's really a cop out. :Þ
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On May 31 2013 16:55 TeCH_TT wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 15:05 IcedBacon wrote:
Yeah surprised the majority predicted a Soulkey win. Innovation has this, he even took the standard game played in Proleague the other day. I dont think you can compare the Proleague match with the GSL Finals. Guess there will be allot of mindgames involved.
Actually you can. Kespa players view Pro League matches like a GSL Final. Every win is important in Pro League and the players study their opponents extensively to obtain the win.
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I wish I could be more optomistic about soulkey's chances.
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On June 01 2013 07:50 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 16:55 TeCH_TT wrote:On May 31 2013 15:05 IcedBacon wrote:
Yeah surprised the majority predicted a Soulkey win. Innovation has this, he even took the standard game played in Proleague the other day. I dont think you can compare the Proleague match with the GSL Finals. Guess there will be allot of mindgames involved. Actually you can. Kespa players view Pro League matches like a GSL Final. Every win is important in Pro League and the players study their opponents extensively to obtain the win.
All-kill format makes this preparation a lot more difficult though.
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Koreans favoring Soulkey. *Shocked*
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Here are the predictions from the English casters for GSL
Artosis: INoVation victory
Its the best Terran and the best Zerg fighting it out. Currently I can see that nobody can stop INoVation. But Soulkey is boiling hot. I say INoVation wins 4-3.
AcerKaoru: INoVation victory
INoVation will win 4-2. He is looking invincible recently, and cannot be stopped. In a best of seven I think Soulkey will be overwhelmed. In ProLeague, Soulkey took one game off INoVation. In GSL, only Soulkey is the player who could take the title away from INoVation. GSL will see another Terran champion resurrect.
Khaldor: INoVation victory
The winner of the upcoming tournament will be the first ever Heart of the Swarm champion. Many people are predicting an INoVation victory. But Soulkey has shown his strong fundamentals in GSL, and simultaneously show his skills in ProLeague. I see an INoVation victory 4-2 and become the first HotS GSL champion. I predict the series going to the full length. Either way, a clash between these two pro-athletes in SC2 will provide the best experience for the fans.
Wolf: INoVation victory
INoVation will win 4-1. INoVation has shown a powerful, stinging and swift reaction rate and flexible macro-management. Whoever he faces, INoVation's scouts know their timings, the late tech choices, knowing the background of the circumstances and making movements without hesitation. "Netizens" have been calling him a robot. But INoVation is a human just like us. And based upon that mistake, Soulkey can take one game off INoVation.
DoA: INoVation victory
My thoughts are that INoVation will win 4-1. Soulkey is a strong player, but INoVation is too dominant in the late-game. INoVation will win, but it will go for a long duration.
Source
This really shows the disparity in opinions between foreigners and Koreans. Koreans seem to favor Soulkey, while foreigners see INoVation as some invincible robot who cannot be halted. Truly a fight between the immovable object and the unstoppable force.
*Oh, and the translation was done fairly quickly, and may have a few mistakes here and there, but I'm confident I got almost all of this correct*
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1st HOTS GSL. Its only right that a Zerg win the first one  .
Long Live the Dealer of Fruit
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