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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
On May 25 2013 01:03 E.L.V.I.S wrote: 8 pro players in france ? did i miss something ? oO Well, defined as players with above 1500$ earnings France have: Stephano, Sarens, Adelscott, Eeel, Dayshi, Aures, Tuzer and ToD. So 8, but it is to some extent a coincidence, sense France happen to have several players between 2.5k-1.5k earnings. | ||
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Saumure
France404 Posts
try making earning/country(goodplayer) | ||
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
On May 25 2013 01:09 mnck wrote: Eh, I think you placed the dot at the wrong place in that data shown. Norway for example should be 66.400$ and not 664.00$, its very confusing to look at otherwise. Yeah sorry, saw it now, its fixed. | ||
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FlukyS
Ireland485 Posts
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Mallidon
Scotland557 Posts
Wait, so its $50,105 for UK? On May 25 2013 01:13 FlukyS wrote: Not to sound picky but the numbers are incredibly hard to read because of the formatting. Like if its $500.65 in your formatting 500650 would be $500.650 which makes it way too similar to look at. Usually its a , rather than a . for large numbers. Yeah this. Should be , (comma) not . (dot). | ||
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
On May 25 2013 01:13 Mallidon wrote: Wait, so its $50,105 for UK? Yeah this. Should be , (comma) not . (dot). I am pretty sure Americans use dots while EU use coma, I dont think either one is wrong or right but I can use coma if people prefer it ^^ And yes, of course it 50k$. Otherwise it would be either 500k or 5k, either of those two does not sound very reasonable now do they? x) | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On May 25 2013 01:05 Mallidon wrote: Well considering that to name just 2 players from UK (Bling & JonnyREcco) who have both earned over £3000 each in prize money, I don't know how on earth the entire UK earnings can total just over $500. Edit - or is this average earnings compared to the amount of pro players a country has? Or what? That still wouldn't work out... Demuslim is UK in this statistic I would assume. The US rank is indeed hard to determine - they have a good depth of ok players, but also have a huge inflation because of early MLGs and the prize-pool of WCS USA 2012 (6 times as high as the one of the Ukraine for example) and NA. If you take away the regional (country, not continent) WCS tourneys of 2012, Ukraine and Germany instantly overtake US. Otherwise everything makes sence, Sweden, Ukraine, France and Poland are the top countries ioutside of korea, who have multiple players with premier championships (Or Stephano in France case), Germany, the US and Canda have deep scenes and several good results, but only HuK/Idra were really part of the champuionship picture. | ||
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Fus
Sweden1112 Posts
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Mallidon
Scotland557 Posts
On May 25 2013 01:23 4ZakeN87 wrote: I am pretty sure Americans use dots while EU use coma, I dont think either one is wrong or right but I can use coma if people prefer it ^^ And yes, of course it 50k$. Otherwise it would be either 500k or 5k, any of those two does not sound very reasonable now do they? x) Right, so Americans use dots, Europeans use commas. Great. You are Swedish right? Hint hint :D But yeah, nah I read it as $500 originally and got really confused because of the wrong placing. Thought your stats were way off or something, I should have had more faith  You've now sorted it out so its all good (well apart from dotgate ofc lol). Edit - Ahh you've made it into lovely commas! Good job! :D | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
with a salary like 600€-800€ you can be a pro gamer in full time in a country like poland, and absolutely not in france for example that's why i think a regional rank of the different part of europe would be better (west, nordic ..) ps : btw i don't use this as a fact to explain the lack of level (overall) in france compare to his size or his population, and i don't want to mean anything wrong toward the polish scene(which is for sure one of the best with a huge amount of amazing player) | ||
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
I think we have to distinct between full time professionals and part time | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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PepsiMaxxxx
Sweden5452 Posts
I'm guessing US and Germany has a smal amount of players per capita. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
Idra is the top earner for the US, unsurprisingly. But generally speaking, there are a lot more players in the US who earned 1000 dollars on average than in other countries, so the US total earnings are higher than expected. Sweden has 12 players earning more than 1000 dollars, while the US has 29! | ||
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
On May 25 2013 01:35 Benjamin99 wrote: I actually got something to add. Pro players define that? just because you make a few dollars playing starcraft 2 doesn't make you a pro gamer. I play poker online and win a few hundred dollars now and again but it defiantly don't make me a pro poker player I think we have to distinct between full time professionals and part time Its a the top: "I defined a “pro” as player with above 1500$ in prize earnings" Of course it is an arbitrary value, but I know this value has been used before so I decided to go with it. You have to draw the line somewhere so it might as well be here. | ||
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On May 25 2013 01:42 4ZakeN87 wrote: Its a the top: "I defined a “pro” as player with above 1500$ in prize earnings" Of course it is an arbitrary value, but I know this value has been used before so I decided to go with it. You have to draw the line somewhere so it might as well be here. Valid point, Still hard to define I feel | ||
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Shunjal
United States482 Posts
Rest of World - $2,574,005 Not bad considering... | ||
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
On May 25 2013 01:41 Conti wrote: You can use aligulac to filter earnings by country, by the way, if you want to see the top earnings for various countries: Just go to http://aligulac.com/earnings/ and try it: http://aligulac.com/earnings/?page=1&year=all&country=US¤cy=all Idra is the top earner for the US, unsurprisingly. But generally speaking, there are a lot more players in the US who earned 1000 dollars on average than in other countries, so the US total earnings are higher than expected. Sweden has 12 players earning more than 1000 dollars, while the US has 29! That data is out of date and just wrong to some extent: For instance top 3 Swedes by: http://aligulac.com/earnings/?page=1&year=all&country=SE¤cy=all NaNiwa The Alliance $79,768 ThorZaIN Evil Geniuses $69,958 SaSe Fnatic $27,389 Top 3 Swedes by SC2earnings: Naniwa 87,338 Thorzain $79,214 Sjow $45,945 | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
On May 25 2013 01:42 4ZakeN87 wrote: Its a the top: "I defined a “pro” as player with above 1500$ in prize earnings" Of course it is an arbitrary value, but I know this value has been used before so I decided to go with it. You have to draw the line somewhere so it might as well be here. It might as well be somewhere that makes sense. $1500 in winnings is amateur. My definition would be that pros are full timers who are earning enough in salary/winnings/endorsements to be at least over the poverty line. | ||
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Inimic
Canada153 Posts
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