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4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
May 24 2013 16:10 GMT
#21
On May 25 2013 01:03 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
8 pro players in france ? did i miss something ? oO


Well, defined as players with above 1500$ earnings France have:

Stephano, Sarens, Adelscott, Eeel, Dayshi, Aures, Tuzer and ToD.

So 8, but it is to some extent a coincidence, sense France happen to have several players between 2.5k-1.5k earnings.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Saumure
Profile Joined February 2012
France404 Posts
May 24 2013 16:11 GMT
#22
It is so funny how every time a post about some country ranking comes up a swede posts it...
try making earning/country(goodplayer)
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
May 24 2013 16:12 GMT
#23
On May 25 2013 01:09 mnck wrote:
Eh, I think you placed the dot at the wrong place in that data shown. Norway for example should be 66.400$ and not 664.00$, its very confusing to look at otherwise.


Yeah sorry, saw it now, its fixed.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
May 24 2013 16:13 GMT
#24
Not to sound picky but the numbers are incredibly hard to read because of the formatting. Like if its $500.65 in your formatting 500650 would be $500.650 which makes it way too similar to look at. Usually its a , rather than a . for large numbers.
Mallidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 16:17:35
May 24 2013 16:13 GMT
#25
On May 25 2013 01:12 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 01:09 mnck wrote:
Eh, I think you placed the dot at the wrong place in that data shown. Norway for example should be 66.400$ and not 664.00$, its very confusing to look at otherwise.


Yeah sorry, saw it now, its fixed.


Wait, so its $50,105 for UK?

On May 25 2013 01:13 FlukyS wrote:
Not to sound picky but the numbers are incredibly hard to read because of the formatting. Like if its $500.65 in your formatting 500650 would be $500.650 which makes it way too similar to look at. Usually its a , rather than a . for large numbers.



Yeah this. Should be , (comma) not . (dot).
Bleh.
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 16:28:28
May 24 2013 16:23 GMT
#26
On May 25 2013 01:13 Mallidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 01:12 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On May 25 2013 01:09 mnck wrote:
Eh, I think you placed the dot at the wrong place in that data shown. Norway for example should be 66.400$ and not 664.00$, its very confusing to look at otherwise.


Yeah sorry, saw it now, its fixed.


Wait, so its $50,105 for UK?

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 01:13 FlukyS wrote:
Not to sound picky but the numbers are incredibly hard to read because of the formatting. Like if its $500.65 in your formatting 500650 would be $500.650 which makes it way too similar to look at. Usually its a , rather than a . for large numbers.



Yeah this. Should be , (comma) not . (dot).


I am pretty sure Americans use dots while EU use coma, I dont think either one is wrong or right but I can use coma if people prefer it ^^

And yes, of course it 50k$. Otherwise it would be either 500k or 5k, either of those two does not sound very reasonable now do they? x)
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
May 24 2013 16:24 GMT
#27
On May 25 2013 01:05 Mallidon wrote:
Well considering that to name just 2 players from UK (Bling & JonnyREcco) who have both earned over £3000 each in prize money, I don't know how on earth the entire UK earnings can total just over $500.

Edit - or is this average earnings compared to the amount of pro players a country has? Or what? That still wouldn't work out...


Demuslim is UK in this statistic I would assume.

The US rank is indeed hard to determine - they have a good depth of ok players, but also have a huge inflation because of early MLGs and the prize-pool of WCS USA 2012 (6 times as high as the one of the Ukraine for example) and NA. If you take away the regional (country, not continent) WCS tourneys of 2012, Ukraine and Germany instantly overtake US. Otherwise everything makes sence, Sweden, Ukraine, France and Poland are the top countries ioutside of korea, who have multiple players with premier championships (Or Stephano in France case), Germany, the US and Canda have deep scenes and several good results, but only HuK/Idra were really part of the champuionship picture.
Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
May 24 2013 16:26 GMT
#28
Sweden is pretty impressive for a country with only 9 million people =)
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Mallidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 16:30:35
May 24 2013 16:28 GMT
#29
On May 25 2013 01:23 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 01:13 Mallidon wrote:
On May 25 2013 01:12 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On May 25 2013 01:09 mnck wrote:
Eh, I think you placed the dot at the wrong place in that data shown. Norway for example should be 66.400$ and not 664.00$, its very confusing to look at otherwise.


Yeah sorry, saw it now, its fixed.


Wait, so its $50,105 for UK?

On May 25 2013 01:13 FlukyS wrote:
Not to sound picky but the numbers are incredibly hard to read because of the formatting. Like if its $500.65 in your formatting 500650 would be $500.650 which makes it way too similar to look at. Usually its a , rather than a . for large numbers.



Yeah this. Should be , (comma) not . (dot).


I am pretty sure Americans use dots while EU use coma, I dont think either one is wrong or right but I can use coma if people prefer it ^^

And yes, of course it 50k$. Otherwise it would be either 500k or 5k, any of those two does not sound very reasonable now do they? x)


Right, so Americans use dots, Europeans use commas. Great. You are Swedish right? Hint hint :D

But yeah, nah I read it as $500 originally and got really confused because of the wrong placing. Thought your stats were way off or something, I should have had more faith

You've now sorted it out so its all good (well apart from dotgate ofc lol).

Edit - Ahh you've made it into lovely commas! Good job! :D
Bleh.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 24 2013 16:34 GMT
#30
thank you stephano lol

with a salary like 600€-800€ you can be a pro gamer in full time in a country like poland, and absolutely not in france for example
that's why i think a regional rank of the different part of europe would be better (west, nordic ..)

ps : btw i don't use this as a fact to explain the lack of level (overall) in france compare to his size or his population, and i don't want to mean anything wrong toward the polish scene(which is for sure one of the best with a huge amount of amazing player)
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Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 16:36:05
May 24 2013 16:35 GMT
#31
I actually got something to add. Pro players define that? just because you make a few dollars playing starcraft 2 doesn't make you a pro gamer. I play poker online and win a few hundred dollars now and again but it defiantly don't make me a pro poker player

I think we have to distinct between full time professionals and part time
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
May 24 2013 16:35 GMT
#32
If source is tldb the finland would have in reality much more. Most of finnish events arent even there.
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PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
May 24 2013 16:38 GMT
#33
One thing missing from this list is how big part of the population in each country playing SC2.

I'm guessing US and Germany has a smal amount of players per capita.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 16:42:02
May 24 2013 16:41 GMT
#34
You can use aligulac to filter earnings by country, by the way, if you want to see the top earnings for various countries: Just go to http://aligulac.com/earnings/ and try it: http://aligulac.com/earnings/?page=1&year=all&country=US&currency=all

Idra is the top earner for the US, unsurprisingly. But generally speaking, there are a lot more players in the US who earned 1000 dollars on average than in other countries, so the US total earnings are higher than expected. Sweden has 12 players earning more than 1000 dollars, while the US has 29!
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
May 24 2013 16:42 GMT
#35
On May 25 2013 01:35 Benjamin99 wrote:
I actually got something to add. Pro players define that? just because you make a few dollars playing starcraft 2 doesn't make you a pro gamer. I play poker online and win a few hundred dollars now and again but it defiantly don't make me a pro poker player

I think we have to distinct between full time professionals and part time


Its a the top: "I defined a “pro” as player with above 1500$ in prize earnings" Of course it is an arbitrary value, but I know this value has been used before so I decided to go with it. You have to draw the line somewhere so it might as well be here.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 16:46:21
May 24 2013 16:46 GMT
#36
On May 25 2013 01:42 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 01:35 Benjamin99 wrote:
I actually got something to add. Pro players define that? just because you make a few dollars playing starcraft 2 doesn't make you a pro gamer. I play poker online and win a few hundred dollars now and again but it defiantly don't make me a pro poker player

I think we have to distinct between full time professionals and part time


Its a the top: "I defined a “pro” as player with above 1500$ in prize earnings" Of course it is an arbitrary value, but I know this value has been used before so I decided to go with it. You have to draw the line somewhere so it might as well be here.


Valid point, Still hard to define I feel
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Shunjal
Profile Joined August 2010
United States482 Posts
May 24 2013 16:46 GMT
#37
South Korea - $5,333,820
Rest of World - $2,574,005

Not bad considering...
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 16:48:27
May 24 2013 16:46 GMT
#38
On May 25 2013 01:41 Conti wrote:
You can use aligulac to filter earnings by country, by the way, if you want to see the top earnings for various countries: Just go to http://aligulac.com/earnings/ and try it: http://aligulac.com/earnings/?page=1&year=all&country=US&currency=all

Idra is the top earner for the US, unsurprisingly. But generally speaking, there are a lot more players in the US who earned 1000 dollars on average than in other countries, so the US total earnings are higher than expected. Sweden has 12 players earning more than 1000 dollars, while the US has 29!


That data is out of date and just wrong to some extent:

For instance top 3 Swedes by: http://aligulac.com/earnings/?page=1&year=all&country=SE&currency=all

NaNiwa The Alliance $79,768
ThorZaIN Evil Geniuses $69,958
SaSe Fnatic $27,389


Top 3 Swedes by SC2earnings:
Naniwa 87,338
Thorzain $79,214
Sjow $45,945
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
May 24 2013 16:48 GMT
#39
On May 25 2013 01:42 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 01:35 Benjamin99 wrote:
I actually got something to add. Pro players define that? just because you make a few dollars playing starcraft 2 doesn't make you a pro gamer. I play poker online and win a few hundred dollars now and again but it defiantly don't make me a pro poker player

I think we have to distinct between full time professionals and part time


Its a the top: "I defined a “pro” as player with above 1500$ in prize earnings" Of course it is an arbitrary value, but I know this value has been used before so I decided to go with it. You have to draw the line somewhere so it might as well be here.

It might as well be somewhere that makes sense. $1500 in winnings is amateur. My definition would be that pros are full timers who are earning enough in salary/winnings/endorsements to be at least over the poverty line.
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Inimic
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada153 Posts
May 24 2013 16:49 GMT
#40
Canada fighting! Huk, Kane and Scarlett will lead us into a new era of glory! (hopefully the hands heal up)
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