May 14, 2013 – Las Vegas, Nevada – eMG announces today the signing of Greg “Idra” Fields to a management agreement for worldwide management and marketing representation across all major platforms, including sponsorship and licensing. Fields is an electrifying figure in the eSports scene and has a large, loyal, and dedicated fan base that show support during both online and live events. ”I’m very excited to start working with eMG. I look forward to seeing what we can do together as i begin my career as an eSports personality,” said Fields
Noone with proper knowledge would be suprised it came this early
I'd also be very suprised if hadn't had more offers so this should even be a descent offer for him I am sure, nevertheless I'm happy to see Idra get sponsored for sure
On May 24 2013 05:30 ZenithM wrote: As usual I don't know what the fuck that means, but good for him :D
They make marketing for players/casters etc. It does basically mean nothing but that they might help Idra get marketing deals or representation at some event or sponsors. Edit: And their website does not hold a few people clicking on the news.
On May 24 2013 05:30 ZenithM wrote: As usual I don't know what the fuck that means, but good for him :D
They make marketing for players/casters etc. It does basically mean nothing but that they might help Idra get marketing deals or representation at some event or sponsors.
Yeah that's what I meant. I understand what eMG is supposed to do in theory, but I have a hard time imagining how that works in practice.
On May 24 2013 05:26 ES_JohnClark wrote: Good for Idra.. but what does it actually mean?
I would assume that he'll be marketing himself more like iNcontroL does from now on. People look at Geoff and generally recognize his name, face, and personality rather than his excellence as a player, and I expect Greg to take on a similar perspective. Not to detract from either of them as professional gamers, but I'm sure both would agree that their exposure in the realm of eSports is mostly derived from the person behind the name instead of the person behind the keyboard, so to speak. It makes sense to capitalize on that.
On May 24 2013 05:30 ZenithM wrote: As usual I don't know what the fuck that means, but good for him :D
They make marketing for players/casters etc. It does basically mean nothing but that they might help Idra get marketing deals or representation at some event or sponsors.
Yeah that's what I meant. I understand what eMG is supposed to do in theory, but I have a hard time imagining how that works in practice.
Imagine you are a company that want to put some money into esports. Instead of picking representatives yourself, you hire eMG to do that. + You get someone to do your work who might actually have a clue about the scene and picks (hopefully) the best representatives for you. - They take money for their work (surprise)
Imagine you are a esports persona who looks for sponsors. Instead of looking for yourself, you make a contract with eMG to do that. + eMG might have better contacts so you get better deal, or deals at all - They take a cut from the sponsors money
That is the theory, if that actually works with eMG, I don't know. Depends on their contacts really.
On May 24 2013 05:36 PassiveAce wrote: I dont understand what this means.
So hes like a fulltime celebrity endorser of products?
Well, the other clients of eMG thus far are Tastosis. Add to that the fact that Idra said he wanted to go more into casting direction, I think it means we've just gotten ourselves an excellent analytical caster who's going to more events due to being helped by eMG to get more gigs. Good for Idra, good for eMG, good for us
Hey, gratz! Good to see him getting a job so quickly, hopefully that does not interrupt streaming too much
”I’m very excited to start working with eMG. I look forward to seeing what we can do together as i begin my career as an eSports personality,” said Fields
If IdrA hasn't been an eSports personality already then I have no idea what does that even mean.
People don't understand what agents/managers do for their clients?
Basically they just take care of the business side of things for the athlete, i.e. take care of event registrations, negotiate sponsorship deals, promote the athlete, etc. This is generally good for the athlete because it lets them focus exclusively on their sport without all the business worries, and as a general rule of thumb a manager knows the buisness side much better than the athlete anyway.
I knew it! IdrA got signed very quickly after his departure from EG and I am very glad to hear this. He won't be playing as a professional player any more, but just think of all the possibilities. IdrA now has the freedom and financial support to create content and be a representative for eSports all over the world. His large fan base will make the company easily recognisable and boost the attention that eSports will get in the future. I'd love to see him as a personality, making content and just being present on every level of the scene. If he soon starts to cast events or even host tournaments I'd be ecstatic.
On May 24 2013 05:53 NeThZOR wrote: I knew it! IdrA got signed very quickly after his departure from EG and I am very glad to hear this. He won't be playing as a professional player any more, but just think of all the possibilities. IdrA now has the freedom and financial support to create content and be a representative for eSports all over the world. His large fan base will make the company easily recognisable and boost the attention that eSports will get in the future. I'd love to see him as a personality, making content and just being present on every level of the scene. If he soon starts to cast events or even host tournaments I'd be ecstatic.
He did not get signed, he signed them. They are his agents, not his team.
On May 24 2013 05:55 ZenithM wrote: Was there even one bit of clue as to what eMG did precisely for the players that they already have contracted? Like, did any of those players pick up a new team, a new job or a new sponsorship during their time with eMG? Did their twitter followers or stream numbers or whatever rise? It's really handwavy at the moment. Like I said, I know what they do in theory, but as this is relatively new to have professional marketing agencies in eSports (afaik), it's really hard for me to witness the improvements and comfort they bring to players. All I know is that their "What We Do" section on their site is a bundle of buzzwords, like this is usually the case with that sort of thing/website.
Let's take an example. I see that Tasteless is one of their clients. Can somebody tell me of one thing Tasteless did recently that could have been helped by eMG? The Ttesports sponsorship? Streaming the HotS campaign? World of Tanks casting even? I guess the ttesports sponsorship makes sense.
Ever heard of Tasteless not being able to do an event due to visa issues?
On May 24 2013 05:55 ZenithM wrote: Was there even one bit of clue as to what eMG did precisely for the players that they already have contracted? Like, did any of those players pick up a new team, a new job or a new sponsorship during their time with eMG? Did their twitter followers or stream numbers or whatever rise? It's really handwavy at the moment. Like I said, I know what they do in theory, but as this is relatively new to have professional marketing agencies in eSports (afaik), it's really hard for me to witness the improvements and comfort they bring to players. All I know is that their "What We Do" section on their site is a bundle of buzzwords, like this is usually the case with that sort of thing/website.
Let's take an example. I see that Tasteless is one of their clients. Can somebody tell me of one thing Tasteless did recently that could have been helped by eMG? The Ttesports sponsorship? Streaming the HotS campaign? World of Tanks casting even? I guess the ttesports sponsorship makes sense.
Tasteless got that alpha brain supplement deal. However, I think that deal was short term and over now because tasteless is no where to be found on alpha brain's site now and tasteless no longer tweets about it. The link to tasteless profile on their website in their press release is also a dead link now. I'm guessing it was like a 6 month sponsorship or something that ended and wasn't renewed.
On May 24 2013 05:55 ZenithM wrote: Edit: Okay, I guess it's obvious for everybody so I'm not going to talk about my silly inquiries :D
You shouldn't have edited that. Many readers would agree IMO. eMG has no visible track record of accomplishments. For all we know, it's just a bunch of names on a website. This signing could mean something, it could mean nothing. Who knows.
On May 24 2013 05:55 ZenithM wrote: Was there even one bit of clue as to what eMG did precisely for the players that they already have contracted? Like, did any of those players pick up a new team, a new job or a new sponsorship during their time with eMG? Did their twitter followers or stream numbers or whatever rise? It's really handwavy at the moment. Like I said, I know what they do in theory, but as this is relatively new to have professional marketing agencies in eSports (afaik), it's really hard for me to witness the improvements and comfort they bring to players. All I know is that their "What We Do" section on their site is a bundle of buzzwords, like this is usually the case with that sort of thing/website.
Let's take an example. I see that Tasteless is one of their clients. Can somebody tell me of one thing Tasteless did recently that could have been helped by eMG? The Ttesports sponsorship? Streaming the HotS campaign? World of Tanks casting even? I guess the ttesports sponsorship makes sense.
Ever heard of Tasteless not being able to do an event due to visa issues?
Me neither.
Actually no, I don't remember this (from players yes, but not from Tasteless, and we all know that recently he doesn't do any other casting than Code S and World of Tanks at GOM /sadface). But this would help how? Other than eMG spamming him with "GET YOUR VISA MAN, DON'T FORGET!", I don't see what more they can do in that regard. They can't get a visa for him. If Tasteless has to give them all that is required to fill the paperwork, he might as well do it himself.
On May 24 2013 05:55 ZenithM wrote: Was there even one bit of clue as to what eMG did precisely for the players that they already have contracted? Like, did any of those players pick up a new team, a new job or a new sponsorship during their time with eMG? Did their twitter followers or stream numbers or whatever rise? It's really handwavy at the moment. Like I said, I know what they do in theory, but as this is relatively new to have professional marketing agencies in eSports (afaik), it's really hard for me to witness the improvements and comfort they bring to players. All I know is that their "What We Do" section on their site is a bundle of buzzwords, like this is usually the case with that sort of thing/website.
Let's take an example. I see that Tasteless is one of their clients. Can somebody tell me of one thing Tasteless did recently that could have been helped by eMG? The Ttesports sponsorship? Streaming the HotS campaign? World of Tanks casting even? I guess the ttesports sponsorship makes sense.
Ever heard of Tasteless not being able to do an event due to visa issues?
Me neither.
Actually no, I don't remember this (from players yes, but not from Tasteless, and we all know that recently he doesn't do any other casting than Code S and World of Tanks at GOM /sadface). But this would help how? Other than eMG spamming him with "GET YOUR VISA MAN, DON'T FORGET!", I don't see what more they can do in that regard. They can't get a visa for him. If Tasteless has to give them all that is required to fill the paperwork, he might as well do it himself.
Agents are largely invisible and do all the footwork for you. Movie stars for example never really have to talk to anyone when negotiating how much they'll do for a movie, what they're willing to do for a movie, etc...
Its not exactly "visa" per say but anything really. They make life easier for the player not in a practice sense, but in a moving around the business sense.
On May 24 2013 05:55 ZenithM wrote: Was there even one bit of clue as to what eMG did precisely for the players that they already have contracted? Like, did any of those players pick up a new team, a new job or a new sponsorship during their time with eMG? Did their twitter followers or stream numbers or whatever rise? It's really handwavy at the moment. Like I said, I know what they do in theory, but as this is relatively new to have professional marketing agencies in eSports (afaik), it's really hard for me to witness the improvements and comfort they bring to players. All I know is that their "What We Do" section on their site is a bundle of buzzwords, like this is usually the case with that sort of thing/website.
Let's take an example. I see that Tasteless is one of their clients. Can somebody tell me of one thing Tasteless did recently that could have been helped by eMG? The Ttesports sponsorship? Streaming the HotS campaign? World of Tanks casting even? I guess the ttesports sponsorship makes sense.
Ever heard of Tasteless not being able to do an event due to visa issues?
Me neither.
Actually no, I don't remember this (from players yes, but not from Tasteless, and we all know that recently he doesn't do any other casting than Code S and World of Tanks at GOM /sadface). But this would help how? Other than eMG spamming him with "GET YOUR VISA MAN, DON'T FORGET!", I don't see what more they can do in that regard. They can't get a visa for him. If Tasteless has to give them all that is required to fill the paperwork, he might as well do it himself.
Agents are largely invisible and do all the footwork for you. Movie stars for example never really have to talk to anyone when negotiating how much they'll do for a movie, what they're willing to do for a movie, etc...
Its not exactly "visa" per say but anything really. They make life easier for the player not in a practice sense, but in a moving around the business sense.
To put it another way: Think of all things you need to think about when you travel - Housing, food, plane tickets, transportation, contacts you need to meet when traveling. Times when you need to show up at places, contact information for the people you are meeting. Add additional things if you are working at an event.
Agents take care of all that stuff and allow the person to do their job when they get to the event.
meh. This whole service just makes money off of its personalities/players, for doing stuff like Reading and sending emails for them. At the MOST they are responsible for contract negotiations. None of which these personalities/people cant handle themselves.
Lets get real, these guys are nowhere near Professional Athlete/Movie star levels where they need Agents because they are constantly flooded with requests, sponsor opportunities, etc.
IDK thread should just be "Greg Field hired EGM as his agency." and more people would understand what exactly this whole thread is actually about.
On May 24 2013 05:55 ZenithM wrote: Was there even one bit of clue as to what eMG did precisely for the players that they already have contracted? Like, did any of those players pick up a new team, a new job or a new sponsorship during their time with eMG? Did their twitter followers or stream numbers or whatever rise? It's really handwavy at the moment. Like I said, I know what they do in theory, but as this is relatively new to have professional marketing agencies in eSports (afaik), it's really hard for me to witness the improvements and comfort they bring to players. All I know is that their "What We Do" section on their site is a bundle of buzzwords, like this is usually the case with that sort of thing/website.
Let's take an example. I see that Tasteless is one of their clients. Can somebody tell me of one thing Tasteless did recently that could have been helped by eMG? The Ttesports sponsorship? Streaming the HotS campaign? World of Tanks casting even? I guess the ttesports sponsorship makes sense.
Ever heard of Tasteless not being able to do an event due to visa issues?
Me neither.
Actually no, I don't remember this (from players yes, but not from Tasteless, and we all know that recently he doesn't do any other casting than Code S and World of Tanks at GOM /sadface). But this would help how? Other than eMG spamming him with "GET YOUR VISA MAN, DON'T FORGET!", I don't see what more they can do in that regard. They can't get a visa for him. If Tasteless has to give them all that is required to fill the paperwork, he might as well do it himself.
Agents are largely invisible and do all the footwork for you. Movie stars for example never really have to talk to anyone when negotiating how much they'll do for a movie, what they're willing to do for a movie, etc...
Its not exactly "visa" per say but anything really. They make life easier for the player not in a practice sense, but in a moving around the business sense.
I guess. While that makes sense to me for movie stars, eMG's clients are far from having the same scale of shit to manage. They may be the most star-like in eSports(TM), but I don't know if eMG's existence is really warranted yet.
Looking at some numbers: they're 5 guys to manage 13 clients. Their clients don't earn millions though, they earn pretty average salaries (very high for Starcraft 2 maybe, but still reasonably average for your everyday life). How much does Tasteless make? I doubt he makes enough to pay a huge sum back to eMG right? And they got only 13 clients like this, with as many as 5(!) guys dealing with their business. Something doesn't add up here. I like Tasteless and he's awesome, but motherfucking agents, to manage his Code S and World of Tanks casting, really?
On May 24 2013 05:55 ZenithM wrote: Was there even one bit of clue as to what eMG did precisely for the players that they already have contracted? Like, did any of those players pick up a new team, a new job or a new sponsorship during their time with eMG? Did their twitter followers or stream numbers or whatever rise? It's really handwavy at the moment. Like I said, I know what they do in theory, but as this is relatively new to have professional marketing agencies in eSports (afaik), it's really hard for me to witness the improvements and comfort they bring to players. All I know is that their "What We Do" section on their site is a bundle of buzzwords, like this is usually the case with that sort of thing/website.
Let's take an example. I see that Tasteless is one of their clients. Can somebody tell me of one thing Tasteless did recently that could have been helped by eMG? The Ttesports sponsorship? Streaming the HotS campaign? World of Tanks casting even? I guess the ttesports sponsorship makes sense.
Ever heard of Tasteless not being able to do an event due to visa issues?
Me neither.
Actually no, I don't remember this (from players yes, but not from Tasteless, and we all know that recently he doesn't do any other casting than Code S and World of Tanks at GOM /sadface). But this would help how? Other than eMG spamming him with "GET YOUR VISA MAN, DON'T FORGET!", I don't see what more they can do in that regard. They can't get a visa for him. If Tasteless has to give them all that is required to fill the paperwork, he might as well do it himself.
Agents are largely invisible and do all the footwork for you. Movie stars for example never really have to talk to anyone when negotiating how much they'll do for a movie, what they're willing to do for a movie, etc...
Its not exactly "visa" per say but anything really. They make life easier for the player not in a practice sense, but in a moving around the business sense.
To put it another way: Think of all things you need to think about when you travel - Housing, food, plane tickets, transportation, contacts you need to meet when traveling. Times when you need to show up at places, contact information for the people you are meeting. Add additional things if you are working at an event.
Agents take care of all that stuff and allow the person to do their job when they get to the event.
It is awesome indeed. But you have to earn the big bucks for an agent to be worth it, that's my point. I have to travel for my work, but I still take care of visa, food, plane tickets and all that, and it doesn't take me that much time either :D
Who is EMG. Oh that e-sports group management thing with Tumba? lmao. I thought he was already apart of them when Artosis, Tasteless, etc. joined them.
On May 24 2013 05:55 ZenithM wrote: Was there even one bit of clue as to what eMG did precisely for the players that they already have contracted? Like, did any of those players pick up a new team, a new job or a new sponsorship during their time with eMG? Did their twitter followers or stream numbers or whatever rise? It's really handwavy at the moment. Like I said, I know what they do in theory, but as this is relatively new to have professional marketing agencies in eSports (afaik), it's really hard for me to witness the improvements and comfort they bring to players. All I know is that their "What We Do" section on their site is a bundle of buzzwords, like this is usually the case with that sort of thing/website.
Let's take an example. I see that Tasteless is one of their clients. Can somebody tell me of one thing Tasteless did recently that could have been helped by eMG? The Ttesports sponsorship? Streaming the HotS campaign? World of Tanks casting even? I guess the ttesports sponsorship makes sense.
Ever heard of Tasteless not being able to do an event due to visa issues?
Me neither.
Actually no, I don't remember this (from players yes, but not from Tasteless, and we all know that recently he doesn't do any other casting than Code S and World of Tanks at GOM /sadface). But this would help how? Other than eMG spamming him with "GET YOUR VISA MAN, DON'T FORGET!", I don't see what more they can do in that regard. They can't get a visa for him. If Tasteless has to give them all that is required to fill the paperwork, he might as well do it himself.
Agents are largely invisible and do all the footwork for you. Movie stars for example never really have to talk to anyone when negotiating how much they'll do for a movie, what they're willing to do for a movie, etc...
Its not exactly "visa" per say but anything really. They make life easier for the player not in a practice sense, but in a moving around the business sense.
I guess. While that makes sense to me for movie stars, eMG's clients are far from having the same scale of shit to manage. They may be the most star-like in eSports(TM), but I don't know if eMG's existence is really warranted yet.
Looking at some numbers: they're 5 guys to manage 13 clients. Their clients don't earn millions though, they earn pretty average salaries (very high for Starcraft 2 maybe, but still reasonably average for your everyday life). How much does Tasteless make? I doubt he makes enough to pay a huge sum back to eMG right? And they got only 13 clients like this, with as many as 5(!) guys dealing with their business. Something doesn't add up here. I like Tasteless and he's awesome, but motherfucking agents, to manage his Code S and World of Tanks casting, really?
On May 24 2013 05:55 ZenithM wrote: Was there even one bit of clue as to what eMG did precisely for the players that they already have contracted? Like, did any of those players pick up a new team, a new job or a new sponsorship during their time with eMG? Did their twitter followers or stream numbers or whatever rise? It's really handwavy at the moment. Like I said, I know what they do in theory, but as this is relatively new to have professional marketing agencies in eSports (afaik), it's really hard for me to witness the improvements and comfort they bring to players. All I know is that their "What We Do" section on their site is a bundle of buzzwords, like this is usually the case with that sort of thing/website.
Let's take an example. I see that Tasteless is one of their clients. Can somebody tell me of one thing Tasteless did recently that could have been helped by eMG? The Ttesports sponsorship? Streaming the HotS campaign? World of Tanks casting even? I guess the ttesports sponsorship makes sense.
Ever heard of Tasteless not being able to do an event due to visa issues?
Me neither.
Actually no, I don't remember this (from players yes, but not from Tasteless, and we all know that recently he doesn't do any other casting than Code S and World of Tanks at GOM /sadface). But this would help how? Other than eMG spamming him with "GET YOUR VISA MAN, DON'T FORGET!", I don't see what more they can do in that regard. They can't get a visa for him. If Tasteless has to give them all that is required to fill the paperwork, he might as well do it himself.
Agents are largely invisible and do all the footwork for you. Movie stars for example never really have to talk to anyone when negotiating how much they'll do for a movie, what they're willing to do for a movie, etc...
Its not exactly "visa" per say but anything really. They make life easier for the player not in a practice sense, but in a moving around the business sense.
To put it another way: Think of all things you need to think about when you travel - Housing, food, plane tickets, transportation, contacts you need to meet when traveling. Times when you need to show up at places, contact information for the people you are meeting. Add additional things if you are working at an event.
Agents take care of all that stuff and allow the person to do their job when they get to the event.
It is awesome indeed. But you have to earn the big bucks for an agent to be worth it, that's my point. I have to travel for my work, but I still take care of visa, food, plane tickets and all that, and it doesn't take me that much time either :D
Why in god's name are you trying to argue that eMG shouldn't be in business lol. I'm gonna venture a guess that they know better than you do whether they should be in the esports business.
So does eMG act as a traditional agency? Will they take a portion of Idra's earnings as a result of signing him?
You would think Idra would know which contacts in the industry are most viable to him and be able to make arrangements for himself. I don't really understand why he would sign with eMG. Seems like a waste for Idra, as other people said. Perhaps eMG has some major contacts that we aren't aware of, it still looks like that eMG has more to gain from signing people like Idra, Artosis, and Tasteless. Perhaps they are trying to gain some legitimacy from these big names before they offer services to lesser names and teams.
On May 24 2013 05:55 ZenithM wrote: Was there even one bit of clue as to what eMG did precisely for the players that they already have contracted? Like, did any of those players pick up a new team, a new job or a new sponsorship during their time with eMG? Did their twitter followers or stream numbers or whatever rise? It's really handwavy at the moment. Like I said, I know what they do in theory, but as this is relatively new to have professional marketing agencies in eSports (afaik), it's really hard for me to witness the improvements and comfort they bring to players. All I know is that their "What We Do" section on their site is a bundle of buzzwords, like this is usually the case with that sort of thing/website.
Let's take an example. I see that Tasteless is one of their clients. Can somebody tell me of one thing Tasteless did recently that could have been helped by eMG? The Ttesports sponsorship? Streaming the HotS campaign? World of Tanks casting even? I guess the ttesports sponsorship makes sense.
Ever heard of Tasteless not being able to do an event due to visa issues?
Me neither.
Actually no, I don't remember this (from players yes, but not from Tasteless, and we all know that recently he doesn't do any other casting than Code S and World of Tanks at GOM /sadface). But this would help how? Other than eMG spamming him with "GET YOUR VISA MAN, DON'T FORGET!", I don't see what more they can do in that regard. They can't get a visa for him. If Tasteless has to give them all that is required to fill the paperwork, he might as well do it himself.
Agents are largely invisible and do all the footwork for you. Movie stars for example never really have to talk to anyone when negotiating how much they'll do for a movie, what they're willing to do for a movie, etc...
Its not exactly "visa" per say but anything really. They make life easier for the player not in a practice sense, but in a moving around the business sense.
I guess. While that makes sense to me for movie stars, eMG's clients are far from having the same scale of shit to manage. They may be the most star-like in eSports(TM), but I don't know if eMG's existence is really warranted yet.
Looking at some numbers: they're 5 guys to manage 13 clients. Their clients don't earn millions though, they earn pretty average salaries (very high for Starcraft 2 maybe, but still reasonably average for your everyday life). How much does Tasteless make? I doubt he makes enough to pay a huge sum back to eMG right? And they got only 13 clients like this, with as many as 5(!) guys dealing with their business. Something doesn't add up here. I like Tasteless and he's awesome, but motherfucking agents, to manage his Code S and World of Tanks casting, really?
This was discussed a year ago when eMG was formed. Most(if not all) of the guys doing this are not doing it as their full time job. We don't know how much money they make or how they are paid. Agents are important for people in the entertainment field because they do a lot of the time consuming ground work that is difficult to manage if you have another full time profession(aka casting the GSL).
Rather than assuming you now Tasteless's business works, just accept that he is a professional and know what he is doing. I don't understand why people constantly post about business deals they barely understand.
I posted because I precisely don't understand it, geniuses. And I must say that all I've read hasn't been really helping me understand :/ Well, I already guessed they weren't doing that full time anyway, but thank you all for your answers nonetheless. I'll just have to trust you on the apparently obvious fact that "it's awesome" and that "eMG has been doing a wonderful job".
On May 24 2013 06:44 ZenithM wrote: I posted because I precisely don't understand it, geniuses. And I must say that all I've read hasn't been really helping me understand :/ Well, I already guessed they weren't doing that full time anyway, but thank you all for your answers nonetheless. I'll just have to trust you on the apparently obvious fact that "it's awesome" and that "eMG has been doing a wonderful job".
Yeah this was kind of a strange announcement.. I'm sure it's a good thing for Idra, but i just find it weird how ambiguous the announcement was.
Either way, Congrats Idra, hope it works out really well.
Yeah I pretty much thought this was going to happen after he announced that he didn't want to play professionally anymore and wanted a real agent instead of using EG as an agent.
Good to see IdrA find a good spot so quickly after his release. After looking at the site, seems they will be able to provide good support for him and I hope to see more of him in the future.
On May 24 2013 06:44 ZenithM wrote: I posted because I precisely don't understand it, geniuses. And I must say that all I've read hasn't been really helping me understand :/ Well, I already guessed they weren't doing that full time anyway, but thank you all for your answers nonetheless. I'll just have to trust you on the apparently obvious fact that "it's awesome" and that "eMG has been doing a wonderful job".
If you don't understand it then why are you arguing that eMG probably shouldn't be in the esports business?
On May 24 2013 06:44 ZenithM wrote: I posted because I precisely don't understand it, geniuses. And I must say that all I've read hasn't been really helping me understand :/ Well, I already guessed they weren't doing that full time anyway, but thank you all for your answers nonetheless. I'll just have to trust you on the apparently obvious fact that "it's awesome" and that "eMG has been doing a wonderful job".
If you don't understand it then why are you arguing that eMG probably shouldn't be in the esports business?
Lol, I said "I don't know if X" and suddenly I'm arguing "not X". I think you can understand from my posts that I'm not sure of anything on that matter and that I know I'm not in a position to argue anything. I didn't pretend that eMG shouldn't be whatever they want to be, I just wondered if they can be.
Edit: And the "LOL you know nothing about business so shut up noob" is all well and good, I get it, but it doesn't make the situation clearer. At least Plansix said that they could very well be doing this part time, which sounds to me reasonable and what I would have expected.
On May 24 2013 06:44 ZenithM wrote: I posted because I precisely don't understand it, geniuses. And I must say that all I've read hasn't been really helping me understand :/ Well, I already guessed they weren't doing that full time anyway, but thank you all for your answers nonetheless. I'll just have to trust you on the apparently obvious fact that "it's awesome" and that "eMG has been doing a wonderful job".
If you don't understand it then why are you arguing that eMG probably shouldn't be in the esports business?
Lol, I said "I don't know if X" and suddenly I'm arguing "not X". I think you can understand from my posts that I'm not sure of anything on that matter and that I know I'm not in a position to argue anything. I didn't pretend that eMG shouldn't be whatever they want to be, I just wondered if they can be.
Edit: And the "LOL you know nothing about business so shut up noob" is all well and good, I get it, but it doesn't make the situation clearer. At least Plansix said that they could very well be doing this part time, which sounds to me reasonable and what I would have expected.
"While that makes sense to me for movie stars, eMG's clients are far from having the same scale of shit to manage. They may be the most star-like in eSports(TM), but I don't know if eMG's existence is really warranted yet.
Looking at some numbers: they're 5 guys to manage 13 clients. Their clients don't earn millions though, they earn pretty average salaries (very high for Starcraft 2 maybe, but still reasonably average for your everyday life). How much does Tasteless make? I doubt he makes enough to pay a huge sum back to eMG right? And they got only 13 clients like this, with as many as 5(!) guys dealing with their business. Something doesn't add up here. I like Tasteless and he's awesome, but motherfucking agents, to manage his Code S and World of Tanks casting, really?"
Clearly you're doing more than wondering aloud right there. Don't pretend otherwise. But I'm glad you're backpedaling anyway, lest the community keep pretending that it understands business and should draw conclusions from that understanding.
BTW, the owners of eMG work primarily as agents for professional poker players.
On May 24 2013 05:24 Aleteh wrote: eMG announces today the signing of Greg “Idra” Fields to a management agreement for worldwide management and marketing representation across all major platforms, including sponsorship and licensing.
so many words with so little actually being said lol
On May 24 2013 05:24 Aleteh wrote: eMG announces today the signing of Greg “Idra” Fields to a management agreement for worldwide management and marketing representation across all major platforms, including sponsorship and licensing.
so many words with so little actually being said lol
That sentence you bolded definitely has meaning, and says something. Do you want them to be more specific? That would require even more words.
On May 24 2013 08:12 geokilla wrote: I thought he hated SC2... Why is he still doing this?
Regardless, best of luck to them both.
Beats having a 9-5 real job or going to school.
He has stated hundreds of times throughout SC2 he is only in it for the money, and thought the game was trash since its debut in comparison to BW.
Now he is going to live the dream...
get paid to sit at home and play video games. And now he doesnt even have to be competitive like he used to. Results and showings dont exist so he doesnt have to stress about how good he actually is.
Nothing has changed for him, except now he gets paid to sit at home and play video games without having to stress at a competition about winning.
Edit: It is pretty funny that he is now one of those "personalities" he used to talk so much shit on.
On May 24 2013 05:24 Aleteh wrote: eMG announces today the signing of Greg “Idra” Fields to a management agreement for worldwide management and marketing representation across all major platforms, including sponsorship and licensing.
so many words with so little actually being said lol
That sentence you bolded definitely has meaning, and says something. Do you want them to be more specific? That would require even more words.
What vital, new information do you gain from that sentence that you didn't have prior to reading it? It doesn't actually say anything. It's just a bunch of corporate buzzwords.
On May 24 2013 05:24 Aleteh wrote: eMG announces today the signing of Greg “Idra” Fields to a management agreement for worldwide management and marketing representation across all major platforms, including sponsorship and licensing.
so many words with so little actually being said lol
That sentence you bolded definitely has meaning, and says something. Do you want them to be more specific? That would require even more words.
Yeah I think it was talked about on SotG or ITG that basically it lets the personality do his own thing without worrying about scarmbling around for gigs and sponsorships. Much easier letting someone else do all the legwork setting up the deals and then just signing them.
I always see these announcements "XX has joined eMG", but I don't understand what they do in reality. Yeah, I get the concept, but have they done anything or do we just not hear anything about their work?
They would in theory find sponsors and endorsement opportunities for their individual clients and I imagine as a service even to teams since not every team has the talent or inclination to find sponsors as well as say, EG.
On May 24 2013 05:24 Aleteh wrote: eMG announces today the signing of Greg “Idra” Fields to a management agreement for worldwide management and marketing representation across all major platforms, including sponsorship and licensing.
so many words with so little actually being said lol
That sentence you bolded definitely has meaning, and says something. Do you want them to be more specific? That would require even more words.
Please...
"Management agreement for worldwide management"
Explain to me what the difference between "management agreement" and "agreement" is
Does the sponsor or the player have the capability to conduct "worldwide management" to begin with beyond the Internet?
"Marketing representation across all major platforms..." = "Idra promotes us over the Internet"
"including sponsorship and licensing" = "We pay him in order to make money off of him"
A lot of empty buzzwords just to say "agreement for eMG to sponsor Idra who'll then promote eMG". Once you've read enough press releases, promotions, and marketing, you'll start to notice the difference between solid and mature statements to empty amateurish statements like this one.
It's just a way for a small group that no one's every heard of to sound big and important to people who have no clue; also to attract more sponsors who have no clue either.
Damn great for you Idra!!! Gonna be great, his casting during the ShoutCraft was incredible, and he knows so much about the game its great to have him as a personality now. GL!!
No surprise there, he said on real talk that he wouldn't be letting EG be his agency. There was really only one logical conclusion to that; he'd join the same agency Artosis, Tasteless and many other old boys work with.
I hope that "eSports personality" really means "part-time caster." IdrA is one of the very best casters out there in terms of game knowledge. Every time he opens his mouth he showers us in knowledge bombs.
Feel kind of iffy about this. I took a glance at their website. It's pretty apparent whoever designed it took like 5 minutes to do so because its wrought with typos and mistakes (ie: benifit, compliment instead of complement.)
Amateur stuff like this may not really be luring more people towards esports :|
On May 24 2013 08:12 geokilla wrote: I thought he hated SC2... Why is he still doing this?
Regardless, best of luck to them both.
Beats having a 9-5 real job or going to school.
He has stated hundreds of times throughout SC2 he is only in it for the money, and thought the game was trash since its debut in comparison to BW.
Now he is going to live the dream...
get paid to sit at home and play video games. And now he doesnt even have to be competitive like he used to. Results and showings dont exist so he doesnt have to stress about how good he actually is.
Nothing has changed for him, except now he gets paid to sit at home and play video games without having to stress at a competition about winning.
Edit: It is pretty funny that he is now one of those "personalities" he used to talk so much shit on.
This, especially the last line. It's hilarious, and is a shining example of everything that's wrong with "ESPORTS". Am I the only one who misses the days when people strove to be the best player they could be, instead of being lazy and falling back on a "personality" job?
On May 24 2013 08:12 geokilla wrote: I thought he hated SC2... Why is he still doing this?
Regardless, best of luck to them both.
Beats having a 9-5 real job or going to school.
He has stated hundreds of times throughout SC2 he is only in it for the money, and thought the game was trash since its debut in comparison to BW.
Now he is going to live the dream...
get paid to sit at home and play video games. And now he doesnt even have to be competitive like he used to. Results and showings dont exist so he doesnt have to stress about how good he actually is.
Nothing has changed for him, except now he gets paid to sit at home and play video games without having to stress at a competition about winning.
Edit: It is pretty funny that he is now one of those "personalities" he used to talk so much shit on.
This, especially the last line. It's hilarious, and is a shining example of everything that's wrong with "ESPORTS". Am I the only one who misses the days when people strove to be the best player they could be, instead of being lazy and falling back on a "personality" job?
On May 24 2013 05:24 Aleteh wrote: eMG announces today the signing of Greg “Idra” Fields to a management agreement for worldwide management and marketing representation across all major platforms, including sponsorship and licensing.
so many words with so little actually being said lol
That sentence you bolded definitely has meaning, and says something. Do you want them to be more specific? That would require even more words.
Please...
"Management agreement for worldwide management"
Explain to me what the difference between "management agreement" and "agreement" is
Does the sponsor or the player have the capability to conduct "worldwide management" to begin with beyond the Internet?
"Marketing representation across all major platforms..." = "Idra promotes us over the Internet"
"including sponsorship and licensing" = "We pay him in order to make money off of him"
A lot of empty buzzwords just to say "agreement for eMG to sponsor Idra who'll then promote eMG". Once you've read enough press releases, promotions, and marketing, you'll start to notice the difference between solid and mature statements to empty amateurish statements like this one.
It's just a way for a small group that no one's every heard of to sound big and important to people who have no clue; also to attract more sponsors who have no clue either.
You pretend to be smart, and then completely and utterly fail at interpreting a single word.
eMG is not a team, they are an agency. They don't pay IdrA, IdrA pays them to set up deals and sponsors (or more likely take a cut of any deals). IdrA doesn't promote them, they promote him by contact organizations.
They entire role of eMG is to do all the legwork in signing deals and marketing so that the people they represent don't have to. And if you actually spent half a second to try and understand that, you wouldn't have spent so much time being so completely and utterly wrong.
On May 24 2013 08:34 Serinox wrote: I always see these announcements "XX has joined eMG", but I don't understand what they do in reality. Yeah, I get the concept, but have they done anything or do we just not hear anything about their work?
You can't hear about their work since they do everything behind the scenes. They basically are a manager for the people they sign. You dont ever hear about the people who manage athletes or movie stars unless its in some form of drama in which case they are doing their job wrong. And since we dont hear about eMG being involved in drama im gonna go with they are doing their job or at least no one has anything about them not doing their job.
On May 24 2013 08:12 geokilla wrote: I thought he hated SC2... Why is he still doing this?
Regardless, best of luck to them both.
Beats having a 9-5 real job or going to school.
He has stated hundreds of times throughout SC2 he is only in it for the money, and thought the game was trash since its debut in comparison to BW.
Now he is going to live the dream...
get paid to sit at home and play video games. And now he doesnt even have to be competitive like he used to. Results and showings dont exist so he doesnt have to stress about how good he actually is.
Nothing has changed for him, except now he gets paid to sit at home and play video games without having to stress at a competition about winning.
Edit: It is pretty funny that he is now one of those "personalities" he used to talk so much shit on.
This, especially the last line. It's hilarious, and is a shining example of everything that's wrong with "ESPORTS". Am I the only one who misses the days when people strove to be the best player they could be, instead of being lazy and falling back on a "personality" job?
edit: those days were pre-2010.
You sound like such a nice guy
I am, but I feel compelled to point out hypocrisy and reflect on the good times before esports was "ESPORTS" when i'm drunk.
On May 24 2013 05:24 Aleteh wrote: eMG announces today the signing of Greg “Idra” Fields to a management agreement for worldwide management and marketing representation across all major platforms, including sponsorship and licensing.
so many words with so little actually being said lol
That sentence you bolded definitely has meaning, and says something. Do you want them to be more specific? That would require even more words.
What vital, new information do you gain from that sentence that you didn't have prior to reading it? It doesn't actually say anything. It's just a bunch of corporate buzzwords.
I would imagine it's possible for an agent to perform only management and not marketing representation (or vice versa), or only sponsorship and not licensing (or vice versa). For example if IdrA's logistics weren't that hard to handle then maybe he wouldn't need the management aspect. So you can see the terms they're using have real meaning.
wow this is really cool. I think Idra will have more influence on the scene here than in EG. im not really sure what this group does besides marketing and stuff.. i know that whitera, nestea, tasteless, artosis, clutch, wolf, and looknohands are affiliated with it so far.. So it seems really good for Idra to be a part of that too, and good for the group to have someone as experienced as idra.
edit: does anyone have any info on things this corp has done or been involved in? Kinda shocked to have never heard of them.
On May 24 2013 14:33 FoxShine wrote: wow this is really cool. I think Idra will have more influence on the scene here than in EG. im not really sure what this group does besides marketing and stuff.. i know that whitera, nestea, tasteless, artosis, clutch, wolf, and looknohands are affiliated with it so far.. So it seems really good for Idra to be a part of that too, and good for the group to have someone as experienced as idra.
edit: does anyone have any info on things this corp has done or been involved in? Kinda shocked to have never heard of them.
They're an agency. If any of their clients appear at an event, or sign a sponsor a team, eMG probably did all the contact work and contract writing. Basically, they're managers that free up the workload of individuals.
On May 24 2013 12:51 ILuMiNaTe wrote: What exactly does this mean?
I can't (likely due to ignorance) imagine it would be hard for IdrA to get a solid deal on a team/sponsor, maybe we'll see him in esports outside of the active progamer role, maybe both. He can definitely do both and probably make more money that way.
Very happy to see him back in the esport scene, but he never mentioned sc2 scene and what does this sentence mean?: " I look forward to seeing what we can do together as i begin my career as an eSports personality, said Fields" Is this his end as a pro gamer?
On May 24 2013 08:12 geokilla wrote: I thought he hated SC2... Why is he still doing this?
Regardless, best of luck to them both.
Beats having a 9-5 real job or going to school.
He has stated hundreds of times throughout SC2 he is only in it for the money, and thought the game was trash since its debut in comparison to BW.
Now he is going to live the dream...
get paid to sit at home and play video games. And now he doesnt even have to be competitive like he used to. Results and showings dont exist so he doesnt have to stress about how good he actually is.
Nothing has changed for him, except now he gets paid to sit at home and play video games without having to stress at a competition about winning.
Edit: It is pretty funny that he is now one of those "personalities" he used to talk so much shit on.
This, especially the last line. It's hilarious, and is a shining example of everything that's wrong with "ESPORTS". Am I the only one who misses the days when people strove to be the best player they could be, instead of being lazy and falling back on a "personality" job?
koreans do it every day, that's why they're the best
They really need to work their asses off to clean Idra's image. I'm sure sponsors now aren't very found of sponsoring someone that 'explosive' but I'm sure in the hands of the capable eMG they might do a miracle!
Unsuccessful progamer gets hired as an "esport personality" because his sociopathic behavior is appealing to a large part of the esport community. I'm not sure which part of this makes me sadder.
On May 24 2013 18:34 SiroKO wrote: Unsuccessful progamer gets hired as an "esport personality" because his sociopathic behavior is appealing to a large part of the esport community. I'm not sure which part of this makes me sadder.
You're an idiot. You should probably look up what a real sociopath is before you say something so utterly retarded.
Grats idra on this although I will miss you playing in tournaments.
On May 24 2013 05:28 MorroW wrote: i thought he was going to get tt esports like white ra and tastosis :p
According to the eMG website, they have signed white-ra and Nestea before Idra and has a parthership with tastosis. From the announcement statement it looks like whitera, nestea and Idra has the same type of task. Dunno what this means to!
On May 24 2013 18:34 SiroKO wrote: Unsuccessful progamer gets hired as an "esport personality" because his sociopathic behavior is appealing to a large part of the esport community. I'm not sure which part of this makes me sadder.
You're an idiot. You should probably look up what a real sociopath is before you say something so utterly retarded.
Grats idra on this although I will miss you playing in tournaments.
You don't have to be a murderer to qualify as a sociopath. A sociopath is someone who has antisocial personality disorder. In other words: - Inflated sense of superiority (this video sums it up best : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktzDR__LTDQ) - Marked readiness to blame others (blizzard, the game...) - Incapacity to experience guilt (never heard him morally apologizing for anything, even in the last case) - Verbal or physical violence (that goes without saying). ... You can pretty much tick all the boxes.
I am surprised at the number of people supportive of a guy who called you all shit heads basically. I wonder if the majority of you would have the same reaction if it was face to face instead of on the internet. He's the Ty Cobb of e-sports except he has no talent.
On May 24 2013 19:17 Targe wrote: Gz to him? Don't really fully understand what this means for him other than he gets paid.
Well, that's precisely it. He doesn't get paid, he pays them :D What they actually do is beyond our understanding according to this thread. A hint: they're leveraging their premiere experience to monetize long-term synergy in an ever paradigm shifting eSports ecosystem.
I think it's probably a mistake that he turned down Alex Garfields offer to manage him for this. I understand that he probably wants to have a clean break but still...
On May 24 2013 19:17 Targe wrote: Gz to him? Don't really fully understand what this means for him other than he gets paid.
Well, that's precisely it. He doesn't get paid, he pays them :D What they actually do is beyond our understanding according to this thread. A hint: they're leveraging their premiere experience to monetize long-term synergy in an ever paradigm shifting eSports ecosystem.
nice for him, i would like to see him as a caster cuz as that he was always pleasant to listen to on the rare occasion he has done that stuff, mostly cuz he isnt in ragemode and talks normal, not his "ingame retarded" talk, from a knowledge point he would be one of the few casters u could trust in not talking complete nonsense
On May 24 2013 19:43 Wegandi wrote: I am surprised at the number of people supportive of a guy who called you all shit heads basically. I wonder if the majority of you would have the same reaction if it was face to face instead of on the internet. He's the Ty Cobb of e-sports except he has no talent.
He was pretty clear on RealTalk that he loves his fans, and hates the fakes. Of course judging by your attitude I'm sure you don't care/keep up with any of this stuff enough and just took the shallow road and took the whole drama event from face value.
Then there is this possibility that eMG is not yet a viable sc2 business. That these players and casters didn't reach out to them for their services. That they bought big names to look attractive and legit in order to reach that viability. I don't think that this scene is wealthy enough for real agency action. Teams do all that stuff and players who make the big bucks are just way too few (and by the looks of it now extinct outside of Korea).
On May 24 2013 21:21 AlternativeEgo wrote: I don't think that this scene is wealthy enough for real agency action. Teams do all that stuff and players who make the big bucks are just way too few (and by the looks of it now extinct outside of Korea).
Take this guy's word for it, everybody. He gets good grades in school.
On May 24 2013 19:43 Wegandi wrote: I am surprised at the number of people supportive of a guy who called you all shit heads basically. I wonder if the majority of you would have the same reaction if it was face to face instead of on the internet. He's the Ty Cobb of e-sports except he has no talent.
Because he totally meant EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY and not just the obnoxious people
EDIT: I dunno, seems like you'd be the kind of person to feel butthurt about that
Many casters/figureheads would be considered that; JP, Day9, Husky, now Idra; they're all known names in the community who aren't players anymore. Being a personality is a great move for him I'd say, but I hope to see him cast more games he really was fantastic when casting ShoutCraft: America with TB!
On May 24 2013 19:43 Wegandi wrote: I am surprised at the number of people supportive of a guy who called you all shit heads basically. I wonder if the majority of you would have the same reaction if it was face to face instead of on the internet. He's the Ty Cobb of e-sports except he has no talent.
Some people don't get as butthurt as others I guess.
On May 24 2013 21:21 AlternativeEgo wrote: I don't think that this scene is wealthy enough for real agency action. Teams do all that stuff and players who make the big bucks are just way too few (and by the looks of it now extinct outside of Korea).
Take this guy's word for it, everybody. He gets good grades in school.
They were not too shabby. So you think that agencies could take over the role of teams and become a viable business in the near future? I don't. A team is more or less an agency that offers management and pays salary and travel. Add to that everything that a team stands for (prestige, belonging and so on). No, I really don't think that it will find a place in the players market. The amount of big names that could and would fly solo is not sufficient.
It would be cool to be proven wrong though. ESPORTS and all that.
On May 24 2013 19:43 Wegandi wrote: I am surprised at the number of people supportive of a guy who called you all shit heads basically. I wonder if the majority of you would have the same reaction if it was face to face instead of on the internet. He's the Ty Cobb of e-sports except he has no talent.
I'm surprised that there are still people like you who are saying "well fuck idra how can you like him after what he said about the community".
Can you PLEASE inform yourself? Idra has specifically stated that the people who he deemed "fucks" were the people in esports who fed off the drama. They're not actual fans, they're not really there to watch good starcraft or support a player they like, they're there to blow small things out of proportion, start witch hunts, be obnoxious assholes on forums (why do you think pros don't often post at TL?) and in stream chats. Those are the ones who Idra was calling out. Not the actual fans. He cleared that up during the real talk with JP.
And those people really are obnoxious, especially people who email sponsors without directly contacting the team just because a pro player said something a little mean. I'm thinking about what happened to Destiny.
So just go inform yourself about something before whining about it, if you still dislike idra than you don't really need to post it here do you?
On May 24 2013 21:21 AlternativeEgo wrote: I don't think that this scene is wealthy enough for real agency action. Teams do all that stuff and players who make the big bucks are just way too few (and by the looks of it now extinct outside of Korea).
Take this guy's word for it, everybody. He gets good grades in school.
They were not too shabby. So you think that agencies could take over the role of teams and become a viable business in the near future? I don't. A team is more or less an agency that offers management and pays salary and travel. Add to that everything that a team stands for (prestige, belonging and so on). No, I really don't think that it will find a place in the players market. The amount of big names that could and would fly solo is not sufficient.
It would be cool to be proven wrong though. ESPORTS and all that.
You should write a letter to eMG advising them to get out of the business. You could print out and attach your posts from this thread.
On May 24 2013 21:21 AlternativeEgo wrote: I don't think that this scene is wealthy enough for real agency action. Teams do all that stuff and players who make the big bucks are just way too few (and by the looks of it now extinct outside of Korea).
Take this guy's word for it, everybody. He gets good grades in school.
They were not too shabby. So you think that agencies could take over the role of teams and become a viable business in the near future? I don't. A team is more or less an agency that offers management and pays salary and travel. Add to that everything that a team stands for (prestige, belonging and so on). No, I really don't think that it will find a place in the players market. The amount of big names that could and would fly solo is not sufficient.
It would be cool to be proven wrong though. ESPORTS and all that.
You should write a letter to eMG advising them to get out of the business. You could print out and attach your posts from this thread.
Your posts are becoming more and more trollish as this thread goes. If you don't have anything else to add or to argue back, don't bother. What's your arguments aside from "They do it and they use pretentious buzzspeech so they must be right!"?
On May 24 2013 21:21 AlternativeEgo wrote: I don't think that this scene is wealthy enough for real agency action. Teams do all that stuff and players who make the big bucks are just way too few (and by the looks of it now extinct outside of Korea).
Take this guy's word for it, everybody. He gets good grades in school.
They were not too shabby. So you think that agencies could take over the role of teams and become a viable business in the near future? I don't. A team is more or less an agency that offers management and pays salary and travel. Add to that everything that a team stands for (prestige, belonging and so on). No, I really don't think that it will find a place in the players market. The amount of big names that could and would fly solo is not sufficient.
It would be cool to be proven wrong though. ESPORTS and all that.
You should write a letter to eMG advising them to get out of the business. You could print out and attach your posts from this thread.
Your posts are becoming more and more trollish as this thread goes. If you don't have anything else to add or to argue back, don't bother. What's your arguments aside from "They do it and they use pretentious buzzspeech so they must be right!"?
He is pointing out(as I did as well) how silly it is to make speculative comments about viability of eMG as a business without providing any evidence or substantive evidence is kind of dumb. The fact the eMG works with both Artosis and Tasteless, the two highest paid and most professional casters in the industry, should be enough to show that eMG knows what they are doing.
It grows tiresome when people who provide no professional credentials make speculative comments on something not being viable and then get upset when people point out the fact that they might not know what they are talking about. People are entitled to opinions, but if you say them out loud, you better be prepared to defend them with more than "Well, why is eMG viable, huh?" You can't back up an opinion by demanding other people prove it to be incorrect.
You can't back up an opinion by demanding other people prove it to be incorrect.
Please, this shit is so old. I don't demand anything from you, as you obviously don't have anything to say. And I can't "prove" anything per say, because we precisely don't know anything about eMG, which is what I was criticizing in the first place.
The fact the eMG works with both Artosis and Tasteless, the two highest paid and most professional casters in the industry, should be enough to show that eMG knows what they are doing.
Well, that's exactly what they would have us think at least. That's why they work with Artosis and Tasteless to begin with, it's good marketing for them. Ironically enough.
You can't back up an opinion by demanding other people prove it to be incorrect.
Please, this shit is so old. I don't demand anything from you, as you obviously don't have anything to say. And I can't "prove" anything per say, because we precisely don't know anything about eMG, which is what I was criticizing in the first place.
The fact the eMG works with both Artosis and Tasteless, the two highest paid and most professional casters in the industry, should be enough to show that eMG knows what they are doing.
Well, that's exactly what they would have us think at least. That's why they work with Artosis and Tasteless to begin with, it's good marketing for them. Ironically enough.
You see that is the sort of speculative nonsense that I am talking about. Using phrases like “that is what they want us to believe” just invites people to accuse you of wearing a tin foil hat. You can’t say something like that with no facts or evidence to back that up, because people will call it what it is, speculation.
Tasteless and Artosis are shrewd business people and two of the most professional people in the field. If they have decided to hire eMG to be their agents, then the facts speak for themselves. Further more, Sir Scoots, who is in the field of marketing dealing with agents, talked about eMG on Live on Three nearly two years ago when they were formed. He said that they were likely needed for people like Artosis and Tasteless, but would only be viable for the larges folks in Esports who were not connected to a team. He also pointed out that everyone involved was already in the marketing/agency field and was likely doing this as a part time job.
That is why there are so many people calling bull shit on these statements that eGM isn’t viable. This was already discussed around 2 years ago and those claims were made and proven to be speculation then. Don't admit to not knowing anything about a business and then try to use as proof why the business isn't viable.
You can't back up an opinion by demanding other people prove it to be incorrect.
Please, this shit is so old. I don't demand anything from you, as you obviously don't have anything to say. And I can't "prove" anything per say, because we precisely don't know anything about eMG, which is what I was criticizing in the first place.
The fact the eMG works with both Artosis and Tasteless, the two highest paid and most professional casters in the industry, should be enough to show that eMG knows what they are doing.
Well, that's exactly what they would have us think at least. That's why they work with Artosis and Tasteless to begin with, it's good marketing for them. Ironically enough.
You see that is the sort of speculative nonsense that I am talking about. Using phrases like “that is what they want us to believe” just invites people to accuse you of wearing a tin foil hat. You can’t say something like that with no facts or evidence to back that up, because people will call it what it is, speculation.
Tasteless and Artosis are shrewd business people and two of the most professional people in the field. If they have decided to hire eMG to be their agents, then the facts speak for themselves. Further more, Sir Scoots, who is in the field of marketing dealing with agents, talked about eMG on Live on Three nearly two years ago when they were formed. He said that they were likely needed for people like Artosis and Tasteless, but would only be viable for the larges folks in Esports who were not connected to a team. He also pointed out that everyone involved was already in the marketing/agency field and was likely doing this as a part time job.
That is why there are so many people calling bull shit on these statements that eGM isn’t viable. This was already discussed around 2 years ago and those claims were made and proven to be speculation then. Don't admit to not knowing anything about a business and then try to use as proof why the business isn't viable.
The thing though, is that I've never claimed that their shit isn't viable :D Here is what I said: "but I don't know if eMG's existence is really warranted yet." You don't see the nuance? This was indeed speculation, and your last post was what I was actually expecting from the beginning, someone who knows something that I don't, coming to help me understand this eMG thing. I didn't know about all of what you said, nor could I have, as I don't watch every oral intervention of Sir Scoots ever, my bad. So, with that being said, thank you.
You see that is the sort of speculative nonsense that I am talking about. Using phrases like “that is what they want us to believe” just invites people to accuse you of wearing a tin foil hat.
You can call it speculative nonsense, I call that not being naive. Obviously having Tastosis' names on their website is very beneficial for them. That's actually the only thing we can say about eMG. They're known because they have big clients, not because of the awesome things they've done for them. They may very well do these things, but this is, as some say, only "speculation" to me, huehuehue.
You can't back up an opinion by demanding other people prove it to be incorrect.
Please, this shit is so old. I don't demand anything from you, as you obviously don't have anything to say. And I can't "prove" anything per say, because we precisely don't know anything about eMG, which is what I was criticizing in the first place.
The fact the eMG works with both Artosis and Tasteless, the two highest paid and most professional casters in the industry, should be enough to show that eMG knows what they are doing.
Well, that's exactly what they would have us think at least. That's why they work with Artosis and Tasteless to begin with, it's good marketing for them. Ironically enough.
You see that is the sort of speculative nonsense that I am talking about. Using phrases like “that is what they want us to believe” just invites people to accuse you of wearing a tin foil hat. You can’t say something like that with no facts or evidence to back that up, because people will call it what it is, speculation.
Tasteless and Artosis are shrewd business people and two of the most professional people in the field. If they have decided to hire eMG to be their agents, then the facts speak for themselves. Further more, Sir Scoots, who is in the field of marketing dealing with agents, talked about eMG on Live on Three nearly two years ago when they were formed. He said that they were likely needed for people like Artosis and Tasteless, but would only be viable for the larges folks in Esports who were not connected to a team. He also pointed out that everyone involved was already in the marketing/agency field and was likely doing this as a part time job.
That is why there are so many people calling bull shit on these statements that eGM isn’t viable. This was already discussed around 2 years ago and those claims were made and proven to be speculation then. Don't admit to not knowing anything about a business and then try to use as proof why the business isn't viable.
The thing though, is that I've never claimed that their shit isn't viable :D Here is what I said: "but I don't know if eMG's existence is really warranted yet." You don't see the nuance? This was indeed speculation, and your last post was what I was actually expecting from the beginning, someone who knows something that I don't, coming to help me understand this eMG thing. I didn't know about all of what you said, nor could I have, as I don't watch every oral intervention of Sir Scoots ever, my bad. So, with that being said, thank you.
You see that is the sort of speculative nonsense that I am talking about. Using phrases like “that is what they want us to believe” just invites people to accuse you of wearing a tin foil hat.
You can call it speculative nonsense, I call that not being naive. Obviously having Tastosis' names on their website is very beneficial for them. That's actually the only thing we can say about eMG. They're known because they have big clients, not because of the awesome things they've done for them. They may very well do these things, but this is, as some say, only "speculation" to me, huehuehue.
I'm curious why you seem to be so worried about if they are qualified or not. Do you not think that Artossis, tasteless, and even idra have a better understanding of there own situation and eMG's plan of attack then you do? Why do you need confirmation on something that you are not involved in what's so ever, and doesn't impact or effect you in the slightest. You sound like a conspiracy theorist who is worried about Idra's safe keeping. I personally don't care what they do, it's Idra's choice to decide to attach himself to them, does this benefit eMG having a high profile person on there 'roster' yes ofcoarse it does, but do you think Idra would do this with no benifit to himself? The way you are talking makes it seem like Idra, and tasteosis get nothing out of being attached to eMG.
On May 24 2013 21:21 AlternativeEgo wrote: I don't think that this scene is wealthy enough for real agency action. Teams do all that stuff and players who make the big bucks are just way too few (and by the looks of it now extinct outside of Korea).
Take this guy's word for it, everybody. He gets good grades in school.
They were not too shabby. So you think that agencies could take over the role of teams and become a viable business in the near future? I don't. A team is more or less an agency that offers management and pays salary and travel. Add to that everything that a team stands for (prestige, belonging and so on). No, I really don't think that it will find a place in the players market. The amount of big names that could and would fly solo is not sufficient.
It would be cool to be proven wrong though. ESPORTS and all that.
You should write a letter to eMG advising them to get out of the business. You could print out and attach your posts from this thread.
Your posts are becoming more and more trollish as this thread goes. If you don't have anything else to add or to argue back, don't bother. What's your arguments aside from "They do it and they use pretentious buzzspeech so they must be right!"?
I was making a point through sarcasm there. You either a) didn't discern that or b) just chose to not address it and call me a troll for using sarcasm. I'm leaning towards a, considering you then stated I wasn't making a point and asked me what my point was.
And now I see you're back pedaling again from your argument that eMG's existence probably isn't warranted yet. "Trust me guys I was only wondering aloud in a completely neutral manner, despite stating evidence their existence is not warranted and then saying "I don't know if their existence is warranted yet".
I don't care, actually. I was just curious about how that works, and nobody seemed to have any more clue than me, yet finding it obviously awesome. I like knowing why things are awesome.
Edit: Oh Doodsmack... Sarcasm didn't make your post any less pointless, unfortunately. I guess that was the difference between you and me in this thread, I just tried to know what that eMG thing was, you tried to put words in my mouth and win an Internet argument. In the end it all worked out, I got my info, somewhat, and you won your Internet argument (I only got a D- ;_;)
On May 24 2013 19:17 Targe wrote: Gz to him? Don't really fully understand what this means for him other than he gets paid.
Well, that's precisely it. He doesn't get paid, he pays them :D What they actually do is beyond our understanding according to this thread. A hint: they're leveraging their premiere experience to monetize long-term synergy in an ever paradigm shifting eSports ecosystem.
great entertainer they picked up ! :D my favourite from his stream is still: "Im 100% safe, theres literally no way i can loose to this noob at all now", massive all in rolls out his way, drones get made anyway, cause, you know, "im 100% safe". His stream honestly gets exponentially better the more he looses.
I rarely ever laughed so hard watching something live, then when he did this 3 or 4 games in a row with literally the same "100% safe" line.
On May 25 2013 02:14 ZenithM wrote: I don't care, actually. I was just curious about how that works, and nobody seemed to have any more clue than me, yet finding it obviously awesome. I like knowing why things are awesome.
Edit: Oh Doodsmack... Sarcasm didn't make your post any less pointless, unfortunately. I guess that was the difference between you and me in this thread, I just tried to know what that eMG thing was, you tried to put words in my mouth and win an Internet argument. In the end it all worked out, I got my info, somewhat, and you won your Internet argument (I only got a D- ;_;)
What's funny is that you back pedaled from your Internet argument in order to save face. And now you're just kind of obfuscating to try to gloss over that.
"I get that it's that way with movie stars, but I don't know if eMG's existence is warranted yet".
To claim you weren't making an argument is just dishonest.
On May 25 2013 03:23 Incognoto wrote: So I'm still sort of in the dark as to what purpose emg serves. The players actually pay emg for what sort of service?
They act as an agency in finding work/deals for their clients. It's the same thing as actors/actresses in hollywood having an agent.
On May 25 2013 02:14 ZenithM wrote: I don't care, actually. I was just curious about how that works, and nobody seemed to have any more clue than me, yet finding it obviously awesome. I like knowing why things are awesome.
Edit: Oh Doodsmack... Sarcasm didn't make your post any less pointless, unfortunately. I guess that was the difference between you and me in this thread, I just tried to know what that eMG thing was, you tried to put words in my mouth and win an Internet argument. In the end it all worked out, I got my info, somewhat, and you won your Internet argument (I only got a D- ;_;)
What's funny is that you back pedaled from your Internet argument in order to save face. And now you're just kind of obfuscating to try to gloss over that.
"I get that it's that way with movie stars, but I don't know if eMG's existence is warranted yet".
To claim you weren't making an argument is just dishonest.
No, he made the statement in the hopes that someone would challenge it and provide him with information about eMG. Its the new way of asking questions on the internet through argument and avoids that issue of looking like you don't know everything.
Lol this team will her 0 backing from me my wallet or my views signing this scum bag. I boo the man and the team that signs him. With no apologie to the community, he should be outcast. Such a joke. sub par performances, rude whiny attitude, and disrespect to the community as a whole should not make a starcraft personality or should such represent it.
On May 25 2013 04:08 TheLunatic wrote: Lol this team will her 0 backing from me my wallet or my views signing this scum bag. I boo the man and the team that signs him. With no apologie to the community, he should be outcast. Such a joke. sub par performances, rude whiny attitude, and disrespect to the community as a whole should not make a starcraft personality or should such represent it.
Its not a team....you didn't read anything in the press release at all, did you?
On May 25 2013 04:08 TheLunatic wrote: Lol this team will her 0 backing from me my wallet or my views signing this scum bag. I boo the man and the team that signs him. With no apologie to the community, he should be outcast. Such a joke. sub par performances, rude whiny attitude, and disrespect to the community as a whole should not make a starcraft personality or should such represent it.
User was warned for this post
Again with the dumb ass and completely uninformed post.
This should be one of those golden rules they teach you in pre-school. "Don't do to others what you wouldn't want done to yourself". This one should be "make sure you're informed before whining".
On May 25 2013 20:03 Chinnro wrote: Wtf are eMG? Do they have a roster?
Clicking on the link in the OP must be so hard. eMG is the premier professional gamers representation, marketing, event management, corporate consulting, licensing, and appearance agency.
On May 25 2013 04:08 TheLunatic wrote: Lol this team will her 0 backing from me my wallet or my views signing this scum bag. I boo the man and the team that signs him. With no apologie to the community, he should be outcast. Such a joke. sub par performances, rude whiny attitude, and disrespect to the community as a whole should not make a starcraft personality or should such represent it.
On May 26 2013 02:16 algorithm0r wrote: Nice for Idra. This will probably be better for him than EG ever was.
Well yes, since they are basically his agent. Agents don't care what you say or do, to them any publicity is good, unlike teams who dont want negative publicity hurting their sponsorship prospects. So now Greg can just be Greg and doesn't have to worry about it, unless he did something really truely awful, like killed someone, he will never be kicked off their books and will no doubt get a lot of work and be paid well for it.
I'm just curious. It seems SC2 players barely make enough to pay the rent. Event the most successful ones like Stephano cap out at a few hundred k. What money is there to pay agents let alone personalities such as Tasteless, Idra et all.
What is this business based on to afford a Las Vegas office and even a skeleton staff?
On May 26 2013 02:43 openbox1 wrote: I'm just curious. It seems SC2 players barely make enough to pay the rent. Event the most successful ones like Stephano cap out at a few hundred k. What money is there to pay agents let alone personalities such as Tasteless, Idra et all.
What is this business based on to afford a Las Vegas office and even a skeleton staff?
You'd be surprised, I think Tasteless and Artosis are seriously balling. There was a figure floating around that they are payed 25k for a three day weekend going together or ~8k for Artosis alone. Plus they have a steady job at GOM and they are immensely valuable for GOM's brand. Irreplaceable, I would say.
Just think how much Artosis must make to have a nice apartment, a girlfriend and a kid in Seoul. Check out Real Talk with Tasteless, his place looks like a place royalty would reside in.
Don't forget Youtube money, Handsomenerd dimes, and personal sponsorships.
On May 26 2013 02:43 openbox1 wrote: I'm just curious. It seems SC2 players barely make enough to pay the rent. Event the most successful ones like Stephano cap out at a few hundred k. What money is there to pay agents let alone personalities such as Tasteless, Idra et all.
What is this business based on to afford a Las Vegas office and even a skeleton staff?
You'd be surprised, I think Tasteless and Artosis are seriously balling. There was a figure floating around that they are payed 25k for a three day weekend going together or ~8k for Artosis alone. Plus they have a steady job at GOM and they are immensely valuable for GOM's brand. Irreplaceable, I would say.
Just think how much Artosis must make to have a nice apartment, a girlfriend and a kid in Seoul. Check out Real Talk with Tasteless, his place looks like a place royalty would reside in.
I think you might be exaggerating with saying his place looks like royalty, but they do seem to make enough money from esports to be able to support themselves and live well off. This is their career they are probably making around the same as an entry job position out of college. So i wouldn't say they are rich or that they are barely making it through.
"... joins eMG" and "... signs with eMG" titles would be so much safer if they said "eMG agency" instead of just "eMG". Yes, eMG have been with us a long time, but every time I see such title my first thought is the player signed with a team. xD
Grats to Idra, this was expected move since he said he will seek an agency rather than using EG to be his agent as they offered.
Lol got idra fan boys flamming me via pm. To answer all your questions no he is not more successful than me. I have a silver star, five army accommodation medals a ranger tab among lesser awards. Finished my service and I'm about to graduate medical school. His gamer accomplishments dont hold a candle to the sacrifices I've made to the country or blood I've made others spill for it. After I will be saving lives of my future patients. My comment simply was intended I have no respect for this his pathetic character. His face should not be part of the scene that represents the community I adore. He should be forced to apologize to the community. It is simply disgusting that any team, company, franchise would support him. I will cast my vote with my wallet as stated before. Also anymore pm's I get in relation to this sorry excuse for a man will be deleted and not read. Also to the "bot" that warned me gtfo, harsher insults fly across all forums than scum bag. Idc if your a fan boy with power, the warning is a literal joke in my book.
On May 26 2013 04:18 TheLunatic wrote: Lol got idra fan boys flamming me via pm. To answer all your questions no he is not more successful than me. I have a silver star, five army accommodation medals a ranger tab among lesser awards. Finished my service and I'm about to graduate medical school. His gamer accomplishments dont hold a candle to the sacrifices I've made to the country or blood I've made others spill for it. After I will be saving lives of my future patients. My comment simply was intended I have no respect for this his pathetic character. His face should not be part of the scene that represents the community I adore. He should be forced to apologize to the community. It is simply disgusting that any team, company, franchise would support him. I will cast my vote with my wallet as stated before. Also anymore pm's I get in relation to this sorry excuse for a man will be deleted and not read. Also to the "bot" that warned me gtfo, harsher insults fly across all forums than scum bag. Idc if your a fan boy with power, the warning is a literal joke in my book.
On May 26 2013 04:18 TheLunatic wrote: Lol got idra fan boys flamming me via pm. To answer all your questions no he is not more successful than me. I have a silver star, five army accommodation medals a ranger tab among lesser awards. Finished my service and I'm about to graduate medical school. His gamer accomplishments dont hold a candle to the sacrifices I've made to the country or blood I've made others spill for it. After I will be saving lives of my future patients. My comment simply was intended I have no respect for this his pathetic character. His face should not be part of the scene that represents the community I adore. He should be forced to apologize to the community. It is simply disgusting that any team, company, franchise would support him. I will cast my vote with my wallet as stated before. Also anymore pm's I get in relation to this sorry excuse for a man will be deleted and not read. Also to the "bot" that warned me gtfo, harsher insults fly across all forums than scum bag. Idc if your a fan boy with power, the warning is a literal joke in my book.
I think a better question is: Why do you care to laud yourself anonymously on a forum?
On May 26 2013 04:18 TheLunatic wrote: Lol got idra fan boys flamming me via pm. To answer all your questions no he is not more successful than me. I have a silver star, five army accommodation medals a ranger tab among lesser awards. Finished my service and I'm about to graduate medical school. His gamer accomplishments dont hold a candle to the sacrifices I've made to the country or blood I've made others spill for it. After I will be saving lives of my future patients. My comment simply was intended I have no respect for this his pathetic character. His face should not be part of the scene that represents the community I adore. He should be forced to apologize to the community. It is simply disgusting that any team, company, franchise would support him. I will cast my vote with my wallet as stated before. Also anymore pm's I get in relation to this sorry excuse for a man will be deleted and not read. Also to the "bot" that warned me gtfo, harsher insults fly across all forums than scum bag. Idc if your a fan boy with power, the warning is a literal joke in my book.
User was temp banned for this post.
Ah man I logged in and everything just to report that post and just missed it :\
On May 26 2013 04:18 TheLunatic wrote: Lol got idra fan boys flamming me via pm. To answer all your questions no he is not more successful than me. I have a silver star, five army accommodation medals a ranger tab among lesser awards. Finished my service and I'm about to graduate medical school. His gamer accomplishments dont hold a candle to the sacrifices I've made to the country or blood I've made others spill for it. After I will be saving lives of my future patients. My comment simply was intended I have no respect for this his pathetic character. His face should not be part of the scene that represents the community I adore. He should be forced to apologize to the community. It is simply disgusting that any team, company, franchise would support him. I will cast my vote with my wallet as stated before. Also anymore pm's I get in relation to this sorry excuse for a man will be deleted and not read. Also to the "bot" that warned me gtfo, harsher insults fly across all forums than scum bag. Idc if your a fan boy with power, the warning is a literal joke in my book.
I think a better question is: Why do you care to laud yourself anonymously on a forum?
Didn't u get it, he's a lunatic.
A silver star, five army lunatic, my hats to you good sir
On May 26 2013 04:18 TheLunatic wrote: Lol got idra fan boys flamming me via pm. To answer all your questions no he is not more successful than me. I have a silver star, five army accommodation medals a ranger tab among lesser awards. Finished my service and I'm about to graduate medical school. His gamer accomplishments dont hold a candle to the sacrifices I've made to the country or blood I've made others spill for it. After I will be saving lives of my future patients. My comment simply was intended I have no respect for this his pathetic character. His face should not be part of the scene that represents the community I adore. He should be forced to apologize to the community. It is simply disgusting that any team, company, franchise would support him. I will cast my vote with my wallet as stated before. Also anymore pm's I get in relation to this sorry excuse for a man will be deleted and not read. Also to the "bot" that warned me gtfo, harsher insults fly across all forums than scum bag. Idc if your a fan boy with power, the warning is a literal joke in my book.
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TheLunatic was just temp banned for 2 weeks by Nyovne.
That account was created on 2011-02-04 02:24:08 and had 302 posts.
Reason: There is no reason to be that insulting and aggressive. Not heeding side moderation is not advisable either. Since you tried so hard with that insulting, well punctuated wall of text you get some effort from me as well:
Post into that alluring thread, Post, and let no more be said! Vain thy onset! all stands fast. Thou thyself gets warned at last!
Let the long contention cease! Peace is banned, and banned is peace. Let them have it how they will! Thou art tired; best be still!
They warned thee, banned thee, nuked thee? Better men fared thus before thee; Fired their ringing shot and passed, Hotly charged and banned at last.
Post once more, then, and be dumb! Let the mods, when they come, When thy forts of folly fail, Find thy account wan and pale!
TheLunatic was just temp banned for 2 weeks by Nyovne.
That account was created on 2011-02-04 02:24:08 and had 302 posts.
Reason: There is no reason to be that insulting and aggressive. Not heeding side moderation is not advisable either. Since you tried so hard with that insulting, well punctuated wall of text you get some effort from me as well:
Post into that alluring thread, Post, and let no more be said! Vain thy onset! all stands fast. Thou thyself gets warned at last!
Let the long contention cease! Peace is banned, and banned is peace. Let them have it how they will! Thou art tired; best be still!
They warned thee, banned thee, nuked thee? Better men fared thus before thee; Fired their ringing shot and passed, Hotly charged and banned at last.
Post once more, then, and be dumb! Let the mods, when they come, When thy forts of folly fail, Find thy account wan and pale!
See we should be thankful people like lunatic exist, because we get these masterful replies in olde english
edit: also really happy Greg bounced back so quickly. I'm really happy he doesn't have to resort to operating a hot dog stand, as funny as it would be to be served hot dogs by Idra. I'm sure there's a catchy title for Idra hot dogs, but I can't think of it
"bad mannered dogs"?? My creative juices don't seem to be flowing today
Tbh this company seems like another bloodsucking "consulting" firm that skims off half your earnings while providing little in return. I feel Idra would be better served going back to school rather than becoming a corporate mascot. The guy won't be able to live off his personality forever.
On May 26 2013 04:18 TheLunatic wrote: Lol got idra fan boys flamming me via pm. To answer all your questions no he is not more successful than me. I have a silver star, five army accommodation medals a ranger tab among lesser awards. Finished my service and I'm about to graduate medical school. His gamer accomplishments dont hold a candle to the sacrifices I've made to the country or blood I've made others spill for it. After I will be saving lives of my future patients. My comment simply was intended I have no respect for this his pathetic character. His face should not be part of the scene that represents the community I adore. He should be forced to apologize to the community. It is simply disgusting that any team, company, franchise would support him. I will cast my vote with my wallet as stated before. Also anymore pm's I get in relation to this sorry excuse for a man will be deleted and not read. Also to the "bot" that warned me gtfo, harsher insults fly across all forums than scum bag. Idc if your a fan boy with power, the warning is a literal joke in my book.
User was temp banned for this post.
This your attempt at a "what the fuck did you just say to me?" copypasta?
On May 26 2013 02:43 openbox1 wrote: I'm just curious. It seems SC2 players barely make enough to pay the rent. Event the most successful ones like Stephano cap out at a few hundred k. What money is there to pay agents let alone personalities such as Tasteless, Idra et all.
What is this business based on to afford a Las Vegas office and even a skeleton staff?
You'd be surprised, I think Tasteless and Artosis are seriously balling. There was a figure floating around that they are payed 25k for a three day weekend going together or ~8k for Artosis alone. Plus they have a steady job at GOM and they are immensely valuable for GOM's brand. Irreplaceable, I would say.
Just think how much Artosis must make to have a nice apartment, a girlfriend and a kid in Seoul. Check out Real Talk with Tasteless, his place looks like a place royalty would reside in.
Don't forget Youtube money, Handsomenerd dimes, and personal sponsorships.
Didn't tasteless say in the real talk he was living in the most expensive part of the city for rich people? I think it was something like that.
If I'm not remembering wrong clutch on the GD show said that eMG told him that gaming is a much bigger audience than esports, and Hollywood is a much bigger audience then gaming, so I think the end goal for eMG is to try to get really big Hollywood deals for the personalities far bigger than esports can give them. You would see a tasteless movie with idra as the villain right?
I hope he gets back into his old self, he seemed kind of born again when he streamed after being fired. Would love to see my old idol win a big tourney
On May 26 2013 07:16 Zeweig wrote: I hope he gets back into his old self, he seemed kind of born again when he streamed after being fired. Would love to see my old idol win a big tourney
Reading these idra threads have brought me to one conclusion - the kids got alotta fanboys. incredible how they do not even expect the slightest apology. kid could sleep with their girlfriends and they would grin and bear it.
greg, u have some good fans - do not let them down again.
On May 26 2013 02:43 openbox1 wrote: I'm just curious. It seems SC2 players barely make enough to pay the rent. Event the most successful ones like Stephano cap out at a few hundred k. What money is there to pay agents let alone personalities such as Tasteless, Idra et all.
What is this business based on to afford a Las Vegas office and even a skeleton staff?
You'd be surprised, I think Tasteless and Artosis are seriously balling. There was a figure floating around that they are payed 25k for a three day weekend going together or ~8k for Artosis alone. Plus they have a steady job at GOM and they are immensely valuable for GOM's brand. Irreplaceable, I would say.
Just think how much Artosis must make to have a nice apartment, a girlfriend and a kid in Seoul. Check out Real Talk with Tasteless, his place looks like a place royalty would reside in.
Don't forget Youtube money, Handsomenerd dimes, and personal sponsorships.
You would see a tasteless movie with idra as the villain right?
Idra need more consistent facial hair to be a reasonable villain.
On May 26 2013 04:18 TheLunatic wrote: Lol got idra fan boys flamming me via pm. To answer all your questions no he is not more successful than me. I have a silver star, five army accommodation medals a ranger tab among lesser awards. Finished my service and I'm about to graduate medical school. His gamer accomplishments dont hold a candle to the sacrifices I've made to the country or blood I've made others spill for it. After I will be saving lives of my future patients. My comment simply was intended I have no respect for this his pathetic character. His face should not be part of the scene that represents the community I adore. He should be forced to apologize to the community. It is simply disgusting that any team, company, franchise would support him. I will cast my vote with my wallet as stated before. Also anymore pm's I get in relation to this sorry excuse for a man will be deleted and not read. Also to the "bot" that warned me gtfo, harsher insults fly across all forums than scum bag. Idc if your a fan boy with power, the warning is a literal joke in my book.
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If someone with your intelligence and reading comprehension can become a doctor, there is something seriously wrong with the accreditation standards of said med school.
On May 26 2013 04:18 TheLunatic wrote: Lol got idra fan boys flamming me via pm. To answer all your questions no he is not more successful than me. I have a silver star, five army accommodation medals a ranger tab among lesser awards. Finished my service and I'm about to graduate medical school. His gamer accomplishments dont hold a candle to the sacrifices I've made to the country or blood I've made others spill for it. After I will be saving lives of my future patients. My comment simply was intended I have no respect for this his pathetic character. His face should not be part of the scene that represents the community I adore. He should be forced to apologize to the community. It is simply disgusting that any team, company, franchise would support him. I will cast my vote with my wallet as stated before. Also anymore pm's I get in relation to this sorry excuse for a man will be deleted and not read. Also to the "bot" that warned me gtfo, harsher insults fly across all forums than scum bag. Idc if your a fan boy with power, the warning is a literal joke in my book.
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I have a huge penis and everyone on the internet should know about it aswell.
On May 26 2013 04:18 TheLunatic wrote: Lol got idra fan boys flamming me via pm. To answer all your questions no he is not more successful than me. I have a silver star, five army accommodation medals a ranger tab among lesser awards. Finished my service and I'm about to graduate medical school. His gamer accomplishments dont hold a candle to the sacrifices I've made to the country or blood I've made others spill for it. After I will be saving lives of my future patients. My comment simply was intended I have no respect for this his pathetic character. His face should not be part of the scene that represents the community I adore. He should be forced to apologize to the community. It is simply disgusting that any team, company, franchise would support him. I will cast my vote with my wallet as stated before. Also anymore pm's I get in relation to this sorry excuse for a man will be deleted and not read. Also to the "bot" that warned me gtfo, harsher insults fly across all forums than scum bag. Idc if your a fan boy with power, the warning is a literal joke in my book.
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I'm an astronaut and president of an obscure island nation.
On May 26 2013 12:32 Phanekim wrote: at least he made correct move considering casting is an oversaturated field.
Idra would have probably been up there with the likes of Tastosis though, he has insane understanding of the game and is pretty funny and has a great personality as well
hmm based on the announcement, I'm still trying to figure out what he does in this new role lol. Best of luck to him and hope he can contribute to the betterment of the community
On May 26 2013 04:18 TheLunatic wrote: Lol got idra fan boys flamming me via pm. To answer all your questions no he is not more successful than me. I have a silver star, five army accommodation medals a ranger tab among lesser awards. Finished my service and I'm about to graduate medical school. His gamer accomplishments dont hold a candle to the sacrifices I've made to the country or blood I've made others spill for it. After I will be saving lives of my future patients. My comment simply was intended I have no respect for this his pathetic character. His face should not be part of the scene that represents the community I adore. He should be forced to apologize to the community. It is simply disgusting that any team, company, franchise would support him. I will cast my vote with my wallet as stated before. Also anymore pm's I get in relation to this sorry excuse for a man will be deleted and not read. Also to the "bot" that warned me gtfo, harsher insults fly across all forums than scum bag. Idc if your a fan boy with power, the warning is a literal joke in my book.
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I have a huge penis and everyone on the internet should know about it aswell.
On May 26 2013 04:18 TheLunatic wrote: Lol got idra fan boys flamming me via pm. To answer all your questions no he is not more successful than me. I have a silver star, five army accommodation medals a ranger tab among lesser awards. Finished my service and I'm about to graduate medical school. His gamer accomplishments dont hold a candle to the sacrifices I've made to the country or blood I've made others spill for it. After I will be saving lives of my future patients. My comment simply was intended I have no respect for this his pathetic character. His face should not be part of the scene that represents the community I adore. He should be forced to apologize to the community. It is simply disgusting that any team, company, franchise would support him. I will cast my vote with my wallet as stated before. Also anymore pm's I get in relation to this sorry excuse for a man will be deleted and not read. Also to the "bot" that warned me gtfo, harsher insults fly across all forums than scum bag. Idc if your a fan boy with power, the warning is a literal joke in my book.
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Pls tell us more of your interesting life... so we can look up to you and hope that we become a fearless motherfucker with decent healing skills like you.
Please:...pretending to be a bad-ass, ok. But pretending to be a bad ass that is also a doctor could be a little bit too much to handle for one day on the Internet.
PS: And if your story (rofl..) is actually true: Funny that you never learned to simply shut the fuck up and not yell at everyone like a 16 yr old rowdie that tries to argue with grown ups by telling them random stuff to look more awesome than they do... imo ppl that have seen 'much' from life tend to act more patient and not like...you...
BTT: Nice for IdrA, I think this contract fits his new way perfectly. Looking forward to see him as caster/interviewer/"simply 'that guy'" :D ...
edit: so i was wondering about that one guy who got banned that everybody is responding to and i found his message on the automated ban list. nyovne wrote a poem. :D
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I'm surprised Idra picked up a new team since he hates this game, the people who play it and the fans that follow it. Its too bad eMG has enough respect to sign him when Idra disrespects the people who support the game. Disappointing.
I was hoping Idra would have to get a real job and say the shit he says about his co-workers that he does to e-sport fans.
On May 26 2013 04:18 TheLunatic wrote: Lol got idra fan boys flamming me via pm. To answer all your questions no he is not more successful than me. I have a silver star, five army accommodation medals a ranger tab among lesser awards. Finished my service and I'm about to graduate medical school. His gamer accomplishments dont hold a candle to the sacrifices I've made to the country or blood I've made others spill for it. After I will be saving lives of my future patients. My comment simply was intended I have no respect for this his pathetic character. His face should not be part of the scene that represents the community I adore. He should be forced to apologize to the community. It is simply disgusting that any team, company, franchise would support him. I will cast my vote with my wallet as stated before. Also anymore pm's I get in relation to this sorry excuse for a man will be deleted and not read. Also to the "bot" that warned me gtfo, harsher insults fly across all forums than scum bag. Idc if your a fan boy with power, the warning is a literal joke in my book.
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I have a huge penis and everyone on the internet should know about it aswell.
I knew it.
The scary question here is: "How did you find out?"
On May 27 2013 06:04 Fat_Elephant wrote: I'm surprised Idra picked up a new team since he hates this game, the people who play it and the fans that follow it. Its too bad eMG has enough respect to sign him when Idra disrespects the people who support the game. Disappointing.
Disappointing that people who have no clue and can't even comprehend the OP properly are allowed to post. eMG is NOT a team, IdrA does NOT hate the game (or esle he clearly would have moved on, wouldn't he?), or people, or especially the fans. It's the rotten part of the community he hates, the people who would say something like
I was hoping Idra would have to get a real job and say the shit he says about his co-workers that he does to e-sport fans.
On May 26 2013 04:18 TheLunatic wrote: Lol got idra fan boys flamming me via pm. To answer all your questions no he is not more successful than me. I have a silver star, five army accommodation medals a ranger tab among lesser awards. Finished my service and I'm about to graduate medical school. His gamer accomplishments dont hold a candle to the sacrifices I've made to the country or blood I've made others spill for it. After I will be saving lives of my future patients. My comment simply was intended I have no respect for this his pathetic character. His face should not be part of the scene that represents the community I adore. He should be forced to apologize to the community. It is simply disgusting that any team, company, franchise would support him. I will cast my vote with my wallet as stated before. Also anymore pm's I get in relation to this sorry excuse for a man will be deleted and not read. Also to the "bot" that warned me gtfo, harsher insults fly across all forums than scum bag. Idc if your a fan boy with power, the warning is a literal joke in my book.
User was temp banned for this post.
I have a huge penis and everyone on the internet should know about it aswell.
I knew it.
The scary question here is: "How did you find out?"
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