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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3829 Posts
May 19 2013 13:20 GMT
#41
Thank you seeker!! I'm so glad we get some of the missed interviews :D
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
May 19 2013 13:30 GMT
#42
Being praised by Mvp is like being blessed by Jinro.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
May 19 2013 13:51 GMT
#43
Thanks for the interviews, like the honesty.
"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
May 19 2013 14:11 GMT
#44
On May 19 2013 21:28 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 21:08 wangstra wrote:
Thanks for the interview. I really wish people would put down the pitchforks vis a vis cross server play, it clearly affects players in the qualifiers and even the premier. While clearly players have to deal with it, people have been far too dismissive in the live threads till the point of it getting ugly.

Everybody knows it's a huge deal, the dismissive thing is about cross server play being entirely the choice of the player/team in question because he selected to play in a WCS tournament in a part of the world that's 8,000 km away.

As Mvp said, he should've flown to Europe for the Ro32 already and that's what WCS Premier Division is going to be sooner or later. An offline competition where everyone plays from the same location.

If it forces Koreans to fly to Europe, so be it. They chose WCS EU for easy money or easy WCS points or the chance to get to the World Finals. It makes no sense to me if you acknowledge that and still lament about them having a hard time because they're not in Europe. Well, yes, of course, but everybody knew and considered that from the start, the players included. They want to win, they commit to the region they selected. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.


I do agree in that vein, in the sense that for now there is little option but to deal with the lag. But flying over to Europe isn't an option for someone like Pandatank and numerous others who struggled with lag during the qualifiers.

I want to stress that the point isn't to lament and bitch about it but rather acknowledge it and be aware that the configuration of the WCS necessarily means many willing participants will run up against lag. It isn't their fault, it doesn't necessarily mean they are greedy, it "doesn't serve them right" (as I've read so many times).

The truth is I'm even more respectful of MvP talent approaching the game. He prepared and anticipated how he could modify his game play to secure his advancement. That is indicative of a smart player. Yet that isn't always going to give him or others enough of an edge.

FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 19 2013 14:53 GMT
#45
LG-IM should send MvP a Terran and Zerg to train with, I am rather worried. On the other hand no one can help him train with what TLO will throw at him haha.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
May 19 2013 14:56 GMT
#46
On May 19 2013 23:11 wangstra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 21:28 StarVe wrote:
On May 19 2013 21:08 wangstra wrote:
Thanks for the interview. I really wish people would put down the pitchforks vis a vis cross server play, it clearly affects players in the qualifiers and even the premier. While clearly players have to deal with it, people have been far too dismissive in the live threads till the point of it getting ugly.

Everybody knows it's a huge deal, the dismissive thing is about cross server play being entirely the choice of the player/team in question because he selected to play in a WCS tournament in a part of the world that's 8,000 km away.

As Mvp said, he should've flown to Europe for the Ro32 already and that's what WCS Premier Division is going to be sooner or later. An offline competition where everyone plays from the same location.

If it forces Koreans to fly to Europe, so be it. They chose WCS EU for easy money or easy WCS points or the chance to get to the World Finals. It makes no sense to me if you acknowledge that and still lament about them having a hard time because they're not in Europe. Well, yes, of course, but everybody knew and considered that from the start, the players included. They want to win, they commit to the region they selected. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.


I do agree in that vein, in the sense that for now there is little option but to deal with the lag. But flying over to Europe isn't an option for someone like Pandatank and numerous others who struggled with lag during the qualifiers.

I want to stress that the point isn't to lament and bitch about it but rather acknowledge it and be aware that the configuration of the WCS necessarily means many willing participants will run up against lag. It isn't their fault, it doesn't necessarily mean they are greedy, it "doesn't serve them right" (as I've read so many times).

The truth is I'm even more respectful of MvP talent approaching the game. He prepared and anticipated how he could modify his game play to secure his advancement. That is indicative of a smart player. Yet that isn't always going to give him or others enough of an edge.



This is WCS EU, if you choose to play in the European server you have to accept all the advantages and disadvantages it entails. There is no complaining about the server lag or whatever.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
May 19 2013 15:15 GMT
#47
On May 19 2013 23:56 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 23:11 wangstra wrote:
On May 19 2013 21:28 StarVe wrote:
On May 19 2013 21:08 wangstra wrote:
Thanks for the interview. I really wish people would put down the pitchforks vis a vis cross server play, it clearly affects players in the qualifiers and even the premier. While clearly players have to deal with it, people have been far too dismissive in the live threads till the point of it getting ugly.

Everybody knows it's a huge deal, the dismissive thing is about cross server play being entirely the choice of the player/team in question because he selected to play in a WCS tournament in a part of the world that's 8,000 km away.

As Mvp said, he should've flown to Europe for the Ro32 already and that's what WCS Premier Division is going to be sooner or later. An offline competition where everyone plays from the same location.

If it forces Koreans to fly to Europe, so be it. They chose WCS EU for easy money or easy WCS points or the chance to get to the World Finals. It makes no sense to me if you acknowledge that and still lament about them having a hard time because they're not in Europe. Well, yes, of course, but everybody knew and considered that from the start, the players included. They want to win, they commit to the region they selected. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.


I do agree in that vein, in the sense that for now there is little option but to deal with the lag. But flying over to Europe isn't an option for someone like Pandatank and numerous others who struggled with lag during the qualifiers.

I want to stress that the point isn't to lament and bitch about it but rather acknowledge it and be aware that the configuration of the WCS necessarily means many willing participants will run up against lag. It isn't their fault, it doesn't necessarily mean they are greedy, it "doesn't serve them right" (as I've read so many times).

The truth is I'm even more respectful of MvP talent approaching the game. He prepared and anticipated how he could modify his game play to secure his advancement. That is indicative of a smart player. Yet that isn't always going to give him or others enough of an edge.



This is WCS EU, if you choose to play in the European server you have to accept all the advantages and disadvantages it entails. There is no complaining about the server lag or whatever.


Pandatank is obviously good enough to get a spot on WCS EU, he went far in every qualifier despite lag. It is just that every server present lag for him, and Europe is his primary region according to Blizzard. I really think for those kind of players, Blizzard and ESL should make accommodations like having a first tournament to determine a few representatives and then fly them to Germany in time for WCS. It would be nice to give everybody a chance, regardless of where they come from.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 19 2013 15:32 GMT
#48
On May 20 2013 00:15 ColtraneL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 23:56 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:11 wangstra wrote:
On May 19 2013 21:28 StarVe wrote:
On May 19 2013 21:08 wangstra wrote:
Thanks for the interview. I really wish people would put down the pitchforks vis a vis cross server play, it clearly affects players in the qualifiers and even the premier. While clearly players have to deal with it, people have been far too dismissive in the live threads till the point of it getting ugly.

Everybody knows it's a huge deal, the dismissive thing is about cross server play being entirely the choice of the player/team in question because he selected to play in a WCS tournament in a part of the world that's 8,000 km away.

As Mvp said, he should've flown to Europe for the Ro32 already and that's what WCS Premier Division is going to be sooner or later. An offline competition where everyone plays from the same location.

If it forces Koreans to fly to Europe, so be it. They chose WCS EU for easy money or easy WCS points or the chance to get to the World Finals. It makes no sense to me if you acknowledge that and still lament about them having a hard time because they're not in Europe. Well, yes, of course, but everybody knew and considered that from the start, the players included. They want to win, they commit to the region they selected. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.


I do agree in that vein, in the sense that for now there is little option but to deal with the lag. But flying over to Europe isn't an option for someone like Pandatank and numerous others who struggled with lag during the qualifiers.

I want to stress that the point isn't to lament and bitch about it but rather acknowledge it and be aware that the configuration of the WCS necessarily means many willing participants will run up against lag. It isn't their fault, it doesn't necessarily mean they are greedy, it "doesn't serve them right" (as I've read so many times).

The truth is I'm even more respectful of MvP talent approaching the game. He prepared and anticipated how he could modify his game play to secure his advancement. That is indicative of a smart player. Yet that isn't always going to give him or others enough of an edge.



This is WCS EU, if you choose to play in the European server you have to accept all the advantages and disadvantages it entails. There is no complaining about the server lag or whatever.


Pandatank is obviously good enough to get a spot on WCS EU, he went far in every qualifier despite lag. It is just that every server present lag for him, and Europe is his primary region according to Blizzard. I really think for those kind of players, Blizzard and ESL should make accommodations like having a first tournament to determine a few representatives and then fly them to Germany in time for WCS. It would be nice to give everybody a chance, regardless of where they come from.

So looking at who participated in WCS EU and has no real region, this "first tournament" would basically consist of Pandatank and Xigua.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 19 2013 15:37 GMT
#49
On May 19 2013 16:40 Wildmoon wrote:
Must feel pretty bad playing in EU server from Korea...

They were all in the same studio...
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
May 19 2013 17:19 GMT
#50
On May 20 2013 00:32 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 00:15 ColtraneL wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:56 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:11 wangstra wrote:
On May 19 2013 21:28 StarVe wrote:
On May 19 2013 21:08 wangstra wrote:
Thanks for the interview. I really wish people would put down the pitchforks vis a vis cross server play, it clearly affects players in the qualifiers and even the premier. While clearly players have to deal with it, people have been far too dismissive in the live threads till the point of it getting ugly.

Everybody knows it's a huge deal, the dismissive thing is about cross server play being entirely the choice of the player/team in question because he selected to play in a WCS tournament in a part of the world that's 8,000 km away.

As Mvp said, he should've flown to Europe for the Ro32 already and that's what WCS Premier Division is going to be sooner or later. An offline competition where everyone plays from the same location.

If it forces Koreans to fly to Europe, so be it. They chose WCS EU for easy money or easy WCS points or the chance to get to the World Finals. It makes no sense to me if you acknowledge that and still lament about them having a hard time because they're not in Europe. Well, yes, of course, but everybody knew and considered that from the start, the players included. They want to win, they commit to the region they selected. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.


I do agree in that vein, in the sense that for now there is little option but to deal with the lag. But flying over to Europe isn't an option for someone like Pandatank and numerous others who struggled with lag during the qualifiers.

I want to stress that the point isn't to lament and bitch about it but rather acknowledge it and be aware that the configuration of the WCS necessarily means many willing participants will run up against lag. It isn't their fault, it doesn't necessarily mean they are greedy, it "doesn't serve them right" (as I've read so many times).

The truth is I'm even more respectful of MvP talent approaching the game. He prepared and anticipated how he could modify his game play to secure his advancement. That is indicative of a smart player. Yet that isn't always going to give him or others enough of an edge.



This is WCS EU, if you choose to play in the European server you have to accept all the advantages and disadvantages it entails. There is no complaining about the server lag or whatever.


Pandatank is obviously good enough to get a spot on WCS EU, he went far in every qualifier despite lag. It is just that every server present lag for him, and Europe is his primary region according to Blizzard. I really think for those kind of players, Blizzard and ESL should make accommodations like having a first tournament to determine a few representatives and then fly them to Germany in time for WCS. It would be nice to give everybody a chance, regardless of where they come from.

So looking at who participated in WCS EU and has no real region, this "first tournament" would basically consist of Pandatank and Xigua.


One more reason to just fly them to Europe before the competition. Aren't there like other African players? Maybe there would be more people willing to play if that was the case.
As for Xigua and everyother chinese player, I don't know what are the conditions on the KR server, but maybe their situation is the same.

But you're right that's quite hard to settle when there are so few players concerned, I was just answering to the guy who said that people who choose another region don't have the right to complain after Pandatank was mentioned. The situation is not as easy for everybody.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
May 19 2013 17:54 GMT
#51
On May 20 2013 00:37 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 16:40 Wildmoon wrote:
Must feel pretty bad playing in EU server from Korea...

They were all in the same studio...

Again, this includes the ro32 interview which was online...
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
May 19 2013 18:09 GMT
#52
I don't follow Lucifron and am not a big fan or anything, but surely these words from the man himself will silence some of the haters?

Also, it just seems right when MVP wins, even if he's a Terran.
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Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
May 19 2013 18:39 GMT
#53
On May 20 2013 03:09 danl9rm wrote:
I don't follow Lucifron and am not a big fan or anything, but surely these words from the man himself will silence some of the haters?


Which haters? I'm pretty sure most sane people see Lucifron as the favorite to win WCS EU. I haven't read a single hate comment regarding Lucifron.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
May 19 2013 19:19 GMT
#54
On May 20 2013 03:09 danl9rm wrote:
I don't follow Lucifron and am not a big fan or anything, but surely these words from the man himself will silence some of the haters?

Also, it just seems right when MVP wins, even if he's a Terran.

It's always right when Terrans win, we can't be having filthy aliens taking the prize money.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 19 2013 22:06 GMT
#55
Anything else you would like to say?

These days, the supervisor has been losing more weight and he’s been struggling. I really hope he remains strong. I really wish things would just go smoothly so his wife will also be able to relax a little. I want to thank my fans in Korea for cheering me on and my girlfriend for cheering me on heavily. The day after tomorrow, NesTea hyung and MLG manager, Hwanni, will be heading overseas together so I hope they stay safe and have a good trip.


Is he talking about Hirai or someone else? I've never seen him referred to as " supervisor " by the players before, usually " director ".
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
May 19 2013 22:06 GMT
#56
Dat Lucifron praise! I love how matter of factly he comes across.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
May 19 2013 22:47 GMT
#57
On May 20 2013 07:06 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
Anything else you would like to say?

These days, the supervisor has been losing more weight and he’s been struggling. I really hope he remains strong. I really wish things would just go smoothly so his wife will also be able to relax a little. I want to thank my fans in Korea for cheering me on and my girlfriend for cheering me on heavily. The day after tomorrow, NesTea hyung and MLG manager, Hwanni, will be heading overseas together so I hope they stay safe and have a good trip.


Is he talking about Hirai or someone else? I've never seen him referred to as " supervisor " by the players before, usually " director ".

storywriter uses director, I use supervisor. IDK, I think both works imo.
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 19 2013 22:59 GMT
#58
I love how MVP says he might need to find EU practice partners. Imagine getting approached by MVP to be his EU practice buddy.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 19 2013 23:01 GMT
#59
Big words from MVP towards Lucifron. Lucifron must be very proud!
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Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
May 20 2013 07:22 GMT
#60
If he lost against someone that someone must be "the best in the world", right? lol
Obviously MVP isn't going to say he sucks.
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