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[Interview] 2013 WCS EU Ro32 and Ro16 (LG-IM_Mvp)

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Last Edited: 2013-05-19 19:28:28
May 19 2013 04:51 GMT
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WCS Interviews for this Week:

    (Clicking on the link will take you to that interview)
  • 2013 WCS Korea Season 1 Code S Ro8 Day 1 Winners' Interview
  • 2013 WCS Korea Season 1 Code S Ro8 Day 2 Winners' Interview
  • 2013 WCS Korea Season 1 Challenger League Round 3 Day 1 Winners' Interview
  • 2013 WCS Europe Season 1 Ro32 and Ro16 Interview (LG-IM_Mvp)
  • 2013 GSTL Season 1 Pennant Race Week 9 Match 1 LG-IM vs Prime Winner Interview
  • 2013 GSTL Season 1 Pennant Race Week 9 Match 2 AZUBU vs AxiomAcer Winner Interview



(T)LG-IM_Mvp

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Source: This Is Game

First off, congratulations on your advancement to the Ro16. Tell us how you feel.

I’m not sure if because it was such a difficult victory or what but I am both tired and glad. It took a while.

They were difficult matches. Were there any problems playing on the EU server from Korea?

Currently, MC is in Europe so I played around five games with him on the EU server before my matches began. Practice seemed very doable so I figured I’d be okay. But when I went to the lobby to get ready for my match, I noticed that about 10,000 spectators were there. I’m not sure if it was because there were so many people there to watch but my reaction timing was really slow. Microing was difficult for me so rather than go for multiple engagements I decided to just try to end my games with one bang.
Rather than your normal defensive mech plays, you showed us your bionic strategic plays. Any special reason behind that?

No specific reason really. I just decided that bio was working out more than mech was for me. I had a strategy all planned out as I was laddering today. And I decided to use that specific strategy against DIMAGA. The strategy was aimed at taking him out with one hit but the lag resulted in me being unable to burrow all my widowmines at once and they also moved a little too far ahead. It was the same thing with EMPs. I shot off my EMPs after my opponent’s army had already moved out of the way. That was pretty much my situation (laughs). So I really couldn’t pull off anything that I had prepared.

If you had to evaluate today’s matches?

For my first opponent, Siw, I felt like our skill difference was really large. However, DIMAGA and Socke are players that I have heard about since the WoL days so they weren’t easy. I also think I was a little out of it because it was so early in the morning. Honestly, I don’t think my true skills came out.

You took a complete loss against DIMAGA in the winners’ round.

DIMAGA turned out to be excellent at hitting ultralisk timings and at controlling them. It’s the most dangerous timing for a Terran player so things just got more and more difficult as he just kept on breaking through.

In the final match, you started off with a loss against Socke. It seems like you took a lot of damage from his dark Templars.

I did not anticipate the DTs at all. And I think that’s why I took so much damage. All the casualties from the DT harassment made me realize that he had probably already won that game.

Games two and three however, saw some real effects from your medivac plays.

Seeing as how I was playing on the EU server, I decided it would be wise to just avoid any engagements. I was sure that I would end up makings things worse for myself if I tried to take on any battles. I guess it could be seen as me making an excuse but I just did not like how my micro was going. I’m not sure if it was because I decided to just go for one big game ending bang but it turned out that my opponent just didn’t defend against my attack. After I noticed that, I decided to just keep on going with that.

You will play the Ro16 while actually in Europe.

After playing today, I can’t help but feel like I should go to Europe the next time I have to go through a Ro32 again. Since the matches were so difficult this time, I want to try to have an easier road next time (laughs).

Has your flight date already been decided?

It hasn’t been decided yet. After I get some sleep, I’ll talk about it with the supervisor tomorrow.

Anything else you would like to say?

I want to thank the fans for tuning in even though it was so early in the morning. I have to play the rest of my WCS matches from Europe but I will make sure I work real hard and make some good results for this first season and respond to all my fans’ encouragement.

(T)LG-IM_Mvp

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Source: This Is Game

You advanced to the quarter-finals as second from group C. Tell us how you feel.

This was my first WCS match while being in Europe so I am glad that I was able to advance to the Ro8 like this. But I am a little disappointed about losing in the winners’ round.

What kind of results were you expecting after seeing your Ro16 group for the first time?

I was anticipating that I would get out of my group as second. And I think I was able to do just that because things went better than expected. Before the matches began, I studied LucifroN’s replays and VODs a lot and that’s how I was able to realize that he was an excellent player. So I expected to have a lot of difficulty if I ended up facing him. Right now I’m constantly spending time with MC so my TvP practices are going well but it is difficult to practice against Zergs and Terrans. So that’s why I was seeing myself advancing out as second.

In your match against SaSe, you went for a marine/tank harassment play after your reaper scout. Was this planned out?

That’s right. I looked at a lot of SaSe’s replays and I also decided that tanks were the right way to go after practicing with MC. I started off with reapers in the beginning so that I could safely progress through the mid-game.

Did you know about SaSe’s plan to play with a 3 gate 1 robo build?

SaSe’s style is to pretty much stick with what he knows how to do. So I was able to comfortably play against him because I was aware of this fact.

In your winners’ match against LucifroN you took on a lot of damage because of hellbats. It looked like you just weren’t expecting it.

I already knew about his hellbat usage because I watched his previous games but I really didn’t play against any hellbat timing attacks during practice so I had difficulty responding to it. So my reaction timing was slow.

It looked like your third command center timing was rather quick during your TvTs.

I didn’t really have any specific builds prepared for my TvTs so I just went with the usual. I was aware that LucifroN liked to use hellbats but I also wanted to experience falling victim to it. Rather than try to respond to what he was doing, I wanted to play normal and find out what kind of timings he liked to do.

Taking on a lot of drop plays from game one must have been why you had supply depots at your cliff and Vikings. However, you still lost in the late game.

I couldn’t think properly because I was so focused on the drops. I think I made bad results because the little things he kept on doing just kept on adding up. It almost felt like LucifroN was a level above me.

Your feelings on LucifroN who took you out?

It feels like his build orders are that of a European player’s but his play style is identical to that of Koreans. I also think that his skill level is also identical to Koreans.

Who did you want to face in the final round?

I didn’t really care who I faced. I had already beaten SaSe and I was confident in my TvP because of my practices with MC. Regarding Nerchio, I saw his games vs LucifroN and I pretty much assumed I was going to win easily because his performance was not that great. I had pretty much figured that I had already advanced to the quarter-finals regardless of the results from the winners’ round.

In game one of the final round against SaSe your attack line that surround SaSe ended up crumbling.

When I was checking out my surroundings, I had a second expansion up and SaSe didn’t so I had a feeling that I would come out on top in the macro game. My strategy would have guaranteed a victory had my attack line not fallen.

You won game two with drop plays and dealt a lot of damage. When did you know that you had won?

I think it was around the time I attempted the double drop. I noticed that he defended very late against my double drops. I realized that his focus had broken at that moment so the rest of the game progressed pretty comfortably from there on.

You played the Ro16 actually from Europe. Was anything different from your usual overseas tournament experiences?

Currently, the WCS format for EU is the same as the one for KR. However, playing the KR format in EU was a very refreshing feeling. Several times, I endured a lot of difficulties whenever I went overseas for a EU tournament because it always lasted for only about 3 – 4 days. Being able to take long and deep breaths like this during a EU tournament is a first for me.

How has your time at Europe been so far?

I am having a relaxing time because I am with Reis hyung and MC. I also like the fact that I can enjoy Korean meals here. It almost feels like I’m not even overseas.

How did you think the quarter-finals will go?

I don’t know who my opponent is going to be yet so I don’t really know but there is a lot of time to prepare so I think I am more than capable of grabbing the victory.

How do you plan on preparing for the quarter-finals when you previously stated that you have no Zerg and Terran practice partners?

There’s a lot of latency issues with practicing with the KR players so I really don’t know. I’ll have to either look for some EU practice partners or practice with the KR players on the NA server.

With your quarter-finals placement you qualify for next season’s Premier League.

I think I’m going to be able to approach the rest of my games with ease from here on out, now that I know I secured my spot for next season’s Premier League. I also have a better win percentage for the Ro8 and onwards rather than the Ro32 and Ro16 so I feel confident.

Recently, a lot of people have been saying that Mvp’s play style is not the same as it once was. Why do you think this is so?

I think it’s because I’m just not as good as I used to be. Rather than say that I’m not adapting to HotS properly, I think it’s just more of the fact that I haven’t been practicing as much. I think I’m not improving right now because I keep on laddering rather than focus on a specific thing as I prepare for tournaments. Before the whole WCS thing, there was a time where I wasn’t putting up any results and couldn’t focus during practice while I was in Code B. I also had no motivation at that time because there were no upcoming tournaments to look forward to. But right now there are a lot of tournaments I can participate in so I think my issues have been somewhat resolved.

Any plans to return to Korea?

I’ve scheduled a flight to return to Korea once the WCS finals are over. Because of that, I really want to make it to the finals no matter what (laughs). Right now, my goal is to get to the semi-finals so that I can qualify for the season finale. I want to achieve that no matter what.

Anything else you would like to say?

These days, the supervisor has been losing more weight and he’s been struggling. I really hope he remains strong. I really wish things would just go smoothly so his wife will also be able to relax a little. I want to thank my fans in Korea for cheering me on and my girlfriend for cheering me on heavily. The day after tomorrow, NesTea hyung and MLG manager, Hwanni, will be heading overseas together so I hope they stay safe and have a good trip.



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Canada5973 Posts
May 19 2013 04:53 GMT
#2
Thanks Seeker :3
Refer to my post.
Harrad
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1003 Posts
May 19 2013 04:57 GMT
#3
thank you
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Canada39254 Posts
May 19 2013 04:58 GMT
#4
Thanks bro
wozzot
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United States1227 Posts
May 19 2013 04:59 GMT
#5
Mvp givin' Lucifron dat respect
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Last Edited: 2013-05-19 05:12:33
May 19 2013 05:12 GMT
#6
oh they did WCS EU interviews for MVP? cool.

Any from NA and Nestea? :D

and thank you
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
May 19 2013 05:17 GMT
#7
Thank you Seeker <3
Long live the King of Wings
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
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May 19 2013 05:18 GMT
#8
I LOVE YOU (for these interviews)
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Seeker *
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Where dat snitch at?37103 Posts
May 19 2013 05:18 GMT
#9
On May 19 2013 14:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
oh they did WCS EU interviews for MVP? cool.

Any from NA and Nestea? :D

and thank you

Available Interviews:

WCS AM - (P)CranK
WCS EU - (T)MMA
WCS AM - (Z)Revival
WCS AM - (T)Ryung
WCS AM - (T)aLive
WCS AM - (P)HerO
WCS AM - (P)Alicia
WCS AM - (Z)NesTea
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 06:11:32
May 19 2013 05:57 GMT
#10
On May 19 2013 14:18 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 14:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
oh they did WCS EU interviews for MVP? cool.

Any from NA and Nestea? :D

and thank you

Available Interviews:

WCS AM - (P)CranK
WCS EU - (T)MMA
WCS AM - (Z)Revival
WCS AM - (T)Ryung
WCS AM - (T)aLive
WCS AM - (P)HerO
WCS AM - (P)Alicia
WCS AM - (Z)NesTea

will you be doing all of those? :D LOL
just kidding
(will you do any of those interviews?)

Been a while since an Mvp interview, Thanks for the translation!


personal request:
can we get the HerO interview HEHE if you aint busy ofc
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37103 Posts
May 19 2013 06:30 GMT
#11
On May 19 2013 14:57 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 14:18 Seeker wrote:
On May 19 2013 14:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
oh they did WCS EU interviews for MVP? cool.

Any from NA and Nestea? :D

and thank you

Available Interviews:

WCS AM - (P)CranK
WCS EU - (T)MMA
WCS AM - (Z)Revival
WCS AM - (T)Ryung
WCS AM - (T)aLive
WCS AM - (P)HerO
WCS AM - (P)Alicia
WCS AM - (Z)NesTea

will you be doing all of those? :D LOL
just kidding
(will you do any of those interviews?)

Been a while since an Mvp interview, Thanks for the translation!


personal request:
can we get the HerO interview HEHE if you aint busy ofc

No promises. I'll see what I can do.
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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
May 19 2013 06:33 GMT
#12
Thanks for all the additional info about finding interviews as well, Seeker, very helpful.

Mvp with some high praise of LucifroN!
Long live the King of Wings
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
May 19 2013 06:50 GMT
#13
Thanks Seeker. Mvp is the best :D

WCS EU champion!
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tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
May 19 2013 06:58 GMT
#14
any info about his wrist?
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
May 19 2013 07:00 GMT
#15
On May 19 2013 15:58 tuho12345 wrote:
any info about his wrist?


Honestly, the lack of discussion about his wrists is crucial. If his wrists were severely affecting his gameplay, then he would mention it somewhere. ("My wrists did not allow me to micro correctly against DIMAGA...") The fact that he did not mention them probably means that he can play pretty well without pain at the moment. :D

Woohoo
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Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
May 19 2013 07:07 GMT
#16
thanks for translating!
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Netherlands2969 Posts
May 19 2013 07:32 GMT
#17
Thanks for translating. Mvp saying lucifron is a level above him, that's quite the compliment ,
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Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
May 19 2013 07:40 GMT
#18
Must feel pretty bad playing in EU server from Korea...
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Australia73 Posts
May 19 2013 07:51 GMT
#19
MVP!!!!
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Australia1178 Posts
May 19 2013 08:18 GMT
#20
i lovee you mvp!
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 08:34:17
May 19 2013 08:32 GMT
#21
"
That’s right. I looked at a lot of SaSe’s replays and I also decided that tanks were the right way to go after practicing with MC. I started off with reapers in the beginning so that I could safely progress through the mid-game."

thats what a champ does, preperation


". It almost felt like LucifroN was a level above me." lol
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LemonyTang
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom436 Posts
May 19 2013 08:39 GMT
#22
Thank you for doing Mvp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I appreciate it so much :D
Mvp #1
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Philippines1187 Posts
May 19 2013 08:58 GMT
#23
I love you MVP!
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
May 19 2013 09:09 GMT
#24
Dat praise for Lucifron.

Always thought he was the most talented foreigner along with Stephano. Being recognized by Mvp is no small deal.
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crashonly
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Finland418 Posts
May 19 2013 10:18 GMT
#25
Nice interviews, thanks for translating! !
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May 19 2013 10:31 GMT
#26
Thanks Seeker. Mvp is the best.
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
May 19 2013 10:39 GMT
#27
what i ahte most is that there are no deeper uinterviews of the eu/am players, i dont understand why tl or anyone else big not sit down with them and make an short interview ...
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Weavel
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Finland9223 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 10:42:08
May 19 2013 10:41 GMT
#28
On May 19 2013 19:39 CoR wrote:
what i ahte most is that there are no deeper uinterviews of the eu/am players, i dont understand why tl or anyone else big not sit down with them and make an short interview ...
Blizzard should make a WCS site and post some interviews there. It's their tournament after all. Always pleasure reading Mvp interviews btw. Thank you for translating Seeker.
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Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
May 19 2013 10:59 GMT
#29
Why do we only have korean websites doing interviews for the WCS EU ?

Thanks anyway Seeker !
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Germany25658 Posts
May 19 2013 11:04 GMT
#30
Thanks Seeker
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TLADT24920 Posts
May 19 2013 11:10 GMT
#31
Thanks Seeker! Interesting to see mvp say that it felt like Lucifron is one level above him lol. Glad to know he made it
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mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
May 19 2013 11:41 GMT
#32
wow, that's a lot of praise for LucifroN. Mvp looked very dominating over all the Protosses he played except for Socke though. It's really nice to see him considering spending more time in Europe for WCS.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 19 2013 11:44 GMT
#33
Thanks for translating, Seeker! Good interview, glad to hear that he'll play the next Ro32 from Europe, too. Playing online from KR really reduces the excitement for the matches.
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Profile Joined November 2011
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May 19 2013 11:46 GMT
#34
You're the man seeker. Much appreciated!
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BAAEEMM
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany412 Posts
May 19 2013 11:51 GMT
#35
So many Koreans are hyping Lucifron oO
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May 19 2013 11:56 GMT
#36
Would indeed be cool to read some written interviews from non korean participants. Thanks Seeker!
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
May 19 2013 12:08 GMT
#37
Thanks for the interview. I really wish people would put down the pitchforks vis a vis cross server play, it clearly affects players in the qualifiers and even the premier. While clearly players have to deal with it, people have been far too dismissive in the live threads till the point of it getting ugly.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 19 2013 12:28 GMT
#38
On May 19 2013 21:08 wangstra wrote:
Thanks for the interview. I really wish people would put down the pitchforks vis a vis cross server play, it clearly affects players in the qualifiers and even the premier. While clearly players have to deal with it, people have been far too dismissive in the live threads till the point of it getting ugly.

Everybody knows it's a huge deal, the dismissive thing is about cross server play being entirely the choice of the player/team in question because he selected to play in a WCS tournament in a part of the world that's 8,000 km away.

As Mvp said, he should've flown to Europe for the Ro32 already and that's what WCS Premier Division is going to be sooner or later. An offline competition where everyone plays from the same location.

If it forces Koreans to fly to Europe, so be it. They chose WCS EU for easy money or easy WCS points or the chance to get to the World Finals. It makes no sense to me if you acknowledge that and still lament about them having a hard time because they're not in Europe. Well, yes, of course, but everybody knew and considered that from the start, the players included. They want to win, they commit to the region they selected. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
May 19 2013 13:02 GMT
#39
On May 19 2013 16:40 Wildmoon wrote:
Must feel pretty bad playing in EU server from Korea...


he is in germany, the games were offline oO
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 19 2013 13:11 GMT
#40
On May 19 2013 22:02 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 16:40 Wildmoon wrote:
Must feel pretty bad playing in EU server from Korea...


he is in germany, the games were offline oO

This includes the Ro32 interview, he played those games from Korea.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3836 Posts
May 19 2013 13:20 GMT
#41
Thank you seeker!! I'm so glad we get some of the missed interviews :D
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
May 19 2013 13:30 GMT
#42
Being praised by Mvp is like being blessed by Jinro.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
May 19 2013 13:51 GMT
#43
Thanks for the interviews, like the honesty.
"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
May 19 2013 14:11 GMT
#44
On May 19 2013 21:28 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 21:08 wangstra wrote:
Thanks for the interview. I really wish people would put down the pitchforks vis a vis cross server play, it clearly affects players in the qualifiers and even the premier. While clearly players have to deal with it, people have been far too dismissive in the live threads till the point of it getting ugly.

Everybody knows it's a huge deal, the dismissive thing is about cross server play being entirely the choice of the player/team in question because he selected to play in a WCS tournament in a part of the world that's 8,000 km away.

As Mvp said, he should've flown to Europe for the Ro32 already and that's what WCS Premier Division is going to be sooner or later. An offline competition where everyone plays from the same location.

If it forces Koreans to fly to Europe, so be it. They chose WCS EU for easy money or easy WCS points or the chance to get to the World Finals. It makes no sense to me if you acknowledge that and still lament about them having a hard time because they're not in Europe. Well, yes, of course, but everybody knew and considered that from the start, the players included. They want to win, they commit to the region they selected. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.


I do agree in that vein, in the sense that for now there is little option but to deal with the lag. But flying over to Europe isn't an option for someone like Pandatank and numerous others who struggled with lag during the qualifiers.

I want to stress that the point isn't to lament and bitch about it but rather acknowledge it and be aware that the configuration of the WCS necessarily means many willing participants will run up against lag. It isn't their fault, it doesn't necessarily mean they are greedy, it "doesn't serve them right" (as I've read so many times).

The truth is I'm even more respectful of MvP talent approaching the game. He prepared and anticipated how he could modify his game play to secure his advancement. That is indicative of a smart player. Yet that isn't always going to give him or others enough of an edge.

FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 19 2013 14:53 GMT
#45
LG-IM should send MvP a Terran and Zerg to train with, I am rather worried. On the other hand no one can help him train with what TLO will throw at him haha.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 19 2013 14:56 GMT
#46
On May 19 2013 23:11 wangstra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 21:28 StarVe wrote:
On May 19 2013 21:08 wangstra wrote:
Thanks for the interview. I really wish people would put down the pitchforks vis a vis cross server play, it clearly affects players in the qualifiers and even the premier. While clearly players have to deal with it, people have been far too dismissive in the live threads till the point of it getting ugly.

Everybody knows it's a huge deal, the dismissive thing is about cross server play being entirely the choice of the player/team in question because he selected to play in a WCS tournament in a part of the world that's 8,000 km away.

As Mvp said, he should've flown to Europe for the Ro32 already and that's what WCS Premier Division is going to be sooner or later. An offline competition where everyone plays from the same location.

If it forces Koreans to fly to Europe, so be it. They chose WCS EU for easy money or easy WCS points or the chance to get to the World Finals. It makes no sense to me if you acknowledge that and still lament about them having a hard time because they're not in Europe. Well, yes, of course, but everybody knew and considered that from the start, the players included. They want to win, they commit to the region they selected. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.


I do agree in that vein, in the sense that for now there is little option but to deal with the lag. But flying over to Europe isn't an option for someone like Pandatank and numerous others who struggled with lag during the qualifiers.

I want to stress that the point isn't to lament and bitch about it but rather acknowledge it and be aware that the configuration of the WCS necessarily means many willing participants will run up against lag. It isn't their fault, it doesn't necessarily mean they are greedy, it "doesn't serve them right" (as I've read so many times).

The truth is I'm even more respectful of MvP talent approaching the game. He prepared and anticipated how he could modify his game play to secure his advancement. That is indicative of a smart player. Yet that isn't always going to give him or others enough of an edge.



This is WCS EU, if you choose to play in the European server you have to accept all the advantages and disadvantages it entails. There is no complaining about the server lag or whatever.
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ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
May 19 2013 15:15 GMT
#47
On May 19 2013 23:56 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 23:11 wangstra wrote:
On May 19 2013 21:28 StarVe wrote:
On May 19 2013 21:08 wangstra wrote:
Thanks for the interview. I really wish people would put down the pitchforks vis a vis cross server play, it clearly affects players in the qualifiers and even the premier. While clearly players have to deal with it, people have been far too dismissive in the live threads till the point of it getting ugly.

Everybody knows it's a huge deal, the dismissive thing is about cross server play being entirely the choice of the player/team in question because he selected to play in a WCS tournament in a part of the world that's 8,000 km away.

As Mvp said, he should've flown to Europe for the Ro32 already and that's what WCS Premier Division is going to be sooner or later. An offline competition where everyone plays from the same location.

If it forces Koreans to fly to Europe, so be it. They chose WCS EU for easy money or easy WCS points or the chance to get to the World Finals. It makes no sense to me if you acknowledge that and still lament about them having a hard time because they're not in Europe. Well, yes, of course, but everybody knew and considered that from the start, the players included. They want to win, they commit to the region they selected. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.


I do agree in that vein, in the sense that for now there is little option but to deal with the lag. But flying over to Europe isn't an option for someone like Pandatank and numerous others who struggled with lag during the qualifiers.

I want to stress that the point isn't to lament and bitch about it but rather acknowledge it and be aware that the configuration of the WCS necessarily means many willing participants will run up against lag. It isn't their fault, it doesn't necessarily mean they are greedy, it "doesn't serve them right" (as I've read so many times).

The truth is I'm even more respectful of MvP talent approaching the game. He prepared and anticipated how he could modify his game play to secure his advancement. That is indicative of a smart player. Yet that isn't always going to give him or others enough of an edge.



This is WCS EU, if you choose to play in the European server you have to accept all the advantages and disadvantages it entails. There is no complaining about the server lag or whatever.


Pandatank is obviously good enough to get a spot on WCS EU, he went far in every qualifier despite lag. It is just that every server present lag for him, and Europe is his primary region according to Blizzard. I really think for those kind of players, Blizzard and ESL should make accommodations like having a first tournament to determine a few representatives and then fly them to Germany in time for WCS. It would be nice to give everybody a chance, regardless of where they come from.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 19 2013 15:32 GMT
#48
On May 20 2013 00:15 ColtraneL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 23:56 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:11 wangstra wrote:
On May 19 2013 21:28 StarVe wrote:
On May 19 2013 21:08 wangstra wrote:
Thanks for the interview. I really wish people would put down the pitchforks vis a vis cross server play, it clearly affects players in the qualifiers and even the premier. While clearly players have to deal with it, people have been far too dismissive in the live threads till the point of it getting ugly.

Everybody knows it's a huge deal, the dismissive thing is about cross server play being entirely the choice of the player/team in question because he selected to play in a WCS tournament in a part of the world that's 8,000 km away.

As Mvp said, he should've flown to Europe for the Ro32 already and that's what WCS Premier Division is going to be sooner or later. An offline competition where everyone plays from the same location.

If it forces Koreans to fly to Europe, so be it. They chose WCS EU for easy money or easy WCS points or the chance to get to the World Finals. It makes no sense to me if you acknowledge that and still lament about them having a hard time because they're not in Europe. Well, yes, of course, but everybody knew and considered that from the start, the players included. They want to win, they commit to the region they selected. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.


I do agree in that vein, in the sense that for now there is little option but to deal with the lag. But flying over to Europe isn't an option for someone like Pandatank and numerous others who struggled with lag during the qualifiers.

I want to stress that the point isn't to lament and bitch about it but rather acknowledge it and be aware that the configuration of the WCS necessarily means many willing participants will run up against lag. It isn't their fault, it doesn't necessarily mean they are greedy, it "doesn't serve them right" (as I've read so many times).

The truth is I'm even more respectful of MvP talent approaching the game. He prepared and anticipated how he could modify his game play to secure his advancement. That is indicative of a smart player. Yet that isn't always going to give him or others enough of an edge.



This is WCS EU, if you choose to play in the European server you have to accept all the advantages and disadvantages it entails. There is no complaining about the server lag or whatever.


Pandatank is obviously good enough to get a spot on WCS EU, he went far in every qualifier despite lag. It is just that every server present lag for him, and Europe is his primary region according to Blizzard. I really think for those kind of players, Blizzard and ESL should make accommodations like having a first tournament to determine a few representatives and then fly them to Germany in time for WCS. It would be nice to give everybody a chance, regardless of where they come from.

So looking at who participated in WCS EU and has no real region, this "first tournament" would basically consist of Pandatank and Xigua.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 19 2013 15:37 GMT
#49
On May 19 2013 16:40 Wildmoon wrote:
Must feel pretty bad playing in EU server from Korea...

They were all in the same studio...
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
May 19 2013 17:19 GMT
#50
On May 20 2013 00:32 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 00:15 ColtraneL wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:56 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:11 wangstra wrote:
On May 19 2013 21:28 StarVe wrote:
On May 19 2013 21:08 wangstra wrote:
Thanks for the interview. I really wish people would put down the pitchforks vis a vis cross server play, it clearly affects players in the qualifiers and even the premier. While clearly players have to deal with it, people have been far too dismissive in the live threads till the point of it getting ugly.

Everybody knows it's a huge deal, the dismissive thing is about cross server play being entirely the choice of the player/team in question because he selected to play in a WCS tournament in a part of the world that's 8,000 km away.

As Mvp said, he should've flown to Europe for the Ro32 already and that's what WCS Premier Division is going to be sooner or later. An offline competition where everyone plays from the same location.

If it forces Koreans to fly to Europe, so be it. They chose WCS EU for easy money or easy WCS points or the chance to get to the World Finals. It makes no sense to me if you acknowledge that and still lament about them having a hard time because they're not in Europe. Well, yes, of course, but everybody knew and considered that from the start, the players included. They want to win, they commit to the region they selected. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.


I do agree in that vein, in the sense that for now there is little option but to deal with the lag. But flying over to Europe isn't an option for someone like Pandatank and numerous others who struggled with lag during the qualifiers.

I want to stress that the point isn't to lament and bitch about it but rather acknowledge it and be aware that the configuration of the WCS necessarily means many willing participants will run up against lag. It isn't their fault, it doesn't necessarily mean they are greedy, it "doesn't serve them right" (as I've read so many times).

The truth is I'm even more respectful of MvP talent approaching the game. He prepared and anticipated how he could modify his game play to secure his advancement. That is indicative of a smart player. Yet that isn't always going to give him or others enough of an edge.



This is WCS EU, if you choose to play in the European server you have to accept all the advantages and disadvantages it entails. There is no complaining about the server lag or whatever.


Pandatank is obviously good enough to get a spot on WCS EU, he went far in every qualifier despite lag. It is just that every server present lag for him, and Europe is his primary region according to Blizzard. I really think for those kind of players, Blizzard and ESL should make accommodations like having a first tournament to determine a few representatives and then fly them to Germany in time for WCS. It would be nice to give everybody a chance, regardless of where they come from.

So looking at who participated in WCS EU and has no real region, this "first tournament" would basically consist of Pandatank and Xigua.


One more reason to just fly them to Europe before the competition. Aren't there like other African players? Maybe there would be more people willing to play if that was the case.
As for Xigua and everyother chinese player, I don't know what are the conditions on the KR server, but maybe their situation is the same.

But you're right that's quite hard to settle when there are so few players concerned, I was just answering to the guy who said that people who choose another region don't have the right to complain after Pandatank was mentioned. The situation is not as easy for everybody.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
May 19 2013 17:54 GMT
#51
On May 20 2013 00:37 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 16:40 Wildmoon wrote:
Must feel pretty bad playing in EU server from Korea...

They were all in the same studio...

Again, this includes the ro32 interview which was online...
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
May 19 2013 18:09 GMT
#52
I don't follow Lucifron and am not a big fan or anything, but surely these words from the man himself will silence some of the haters?

Also, it just seems right when MVP wins, even if he's a Terran.
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Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
May 19 2013 18:39 GMT
#53
On May 20 2013 03:09 danl9rm wrote:
I don't follow Lucifron and am not a big fan or anything, but surely these words from the man himself will silence some of the haters?


Which haters? I'm pretty sure most sane people see Lucifron as the favorite to win WCS EU. I haven't read a single hate comment regarding Lucifron.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
May 19 2013 19:19 GMT
#54
On May 20 2013 03:09 danl9rm wrote:
I don't follow Lucifron and am not a big fan or anything, but surely these words from the man himself will silence some of the haters?

Also, it just seems right when MVP wins, even if he's a Terran.

It's always right when Terrans win, we can't be having filthy aliens taking the prize money.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 19 2013 22:06 GMT
#55
Anything else you would like to say?

These days, the supervisor has been losing more weight and he’s been struggling. I really hope he remains strong. I really wish things would just go smoothly so his wife will also be able to relax a little. I want to thank my fans in Korea for cheering me on and my girlfriend for cheering me on heavily. The day after tomorrow, NesTea hyung and MLG manager, Hwanni, will be heading overseas together so I hope they stay safe and have a good trip.


Is he talking about Hirai or someone else? I've never seen him referred to as " supervisor " by the players before, usually " director ".
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
May 19 2013 22:06 GMT
#56
Dat Lucifron praise! I love how matter of factly he comes across.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37103 Posts
May 19 2013 22:47 GMT
#57
On May 20 2013 07:06 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
Anything else you would like to say?

These days, the supervisor has been losing more weight and he’s been struggling. I really hope he remains strong. I really wish things would just go smoothly so his wife will also be able to relax a little. I want to thank my fans in Korea for cheering me on and my girlfriend for cheering me on heavily. The day after tomorrow, NesTea hyung and MLG manager, Hwanni, will be heading overseas together so I hope they stay safe and have a good trip.


Is he talking about Hirai or someone else? I've never seen him referred to as " supervisor " by the players before, usually " director ".

storywriter uses director, I use supervisor. IDK, I think both works imo.
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 19 2013 22:59 GMT
#58
I love how MVP says he might need to find EU practice partners. Imagine getting approached by MVP to be his EU practice buddy.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 19 2013 23:01 GMT
#59
Big words from MVP towards Lucifron. Lucifron must be very proud!
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Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
May 20 2013 07:22 GMT
#60
If he lost against someone that someone must be "the best in the world", right? lol
Obviously MVP isn't going to say he sucks.
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dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
May 20 2013 12:47 GMT
#61
On May 20 2013 07:47 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 07:06 Dodgin wrote:
Anything else you would like to say?

These days, the supervisor has been losing more weight and he’s been struggling. I really hope he remains strong. I really wish things would just go smoothly so his wife will also be able to relax a little. I want to thank my fans in Korea for cheering me on and my girlfriend for cheering me on heavily. The day after tomorrow, NesTea hyung and MLG manager, Hwanni, will be heading overseas together so I hope they stay safe and have a good trip.


Is he talking about Hirai or someone else? I've never seen him referred to as " supervisor " by the players before, usually " director ".

storywriter uses director, I use supervisor. IDK, I think both works imo.


nobody else finds it odd he mentions his supervisor and losing weight? i don't really get it. maybe lost in translation?
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37103 Posts
May 20 2013 15:43 GMT
#62
On May 20 2013 21:47 dreamseller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 07:47 Seeker wrote:
On May 20 2013 07:06 Dodgin wrote:
Anything else you would like to say?

These days, the supervisor has been losing more weight and he’s been struggling. I really hope he remains strong. I really wish things would just go smoothly so his wife will also be able to relax a little. I want to thank my fans in Korea for cheering me on and my girlfriend for cheering me on heavily. The day after tomorrow, NesTea hyung and MLG manager, Hwanni, will be heading overseas together so I hope they stay safe and have a good trip.


Is he talking about Hirai or someone else? I've never seen him referred to as " supervisor " by the players before, usually " director ".

storywriter uses director, I use supervisor. IDK, I think both works imo.


nobody else finds it odd he mentions his supervisor and losing weight? i don't really get it. maybe lost in translation?

Basically, the supervisor is not feeling well.
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ThePrince
Profile Joined October 2010
Peru331 Posts
May 20 2013 16:33 GMT
#63
Two MVPs? Anyways Thanks Seeker!!
SK_MC, ST_Parting, STX_Bogus fighting!!! Colossi should shoot nukes and blink.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37103 Posts
May 20 2013 16:51 GMT
#64
On May 21 2013 01:33 ThePrince wrote:
Two MVPs? Anyways Thanks Seeker!!

Read the title
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ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
May 21 2013 02:14 GMT
#65
On May 20 2013 16:22 Rammstorm wrote:
If he lost against someone that someone must be "the best in the world", right? lol
Obviously MVP isn't going to say he sucks.


That's true but I don't think that Mvp is/thinks like that. Whenever he was completely out of shape and messing up his games he would say it, he never praised people that beat him for example at Homestory Cup or events like that.
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