EPTWCS News: TLO and NaNiwa win in EU, HerO and aLive take NA…
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NMxSardines
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Ireniicas
66 Posts
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RinconH
United States512 Posts
Don't get me started on the WCS AM... | ||
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
On May 05 2013 02:24 Ireniicas wrote: America for Americans What the shit... | ||
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Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
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KaiserCommander
Mexico290 Posts
On May 04 2013 16:16 nimdil wrote: There us no "may". Mexico is as much part of north America as USA. Exactly... And this guy is from Poland... On topic... I blame myself 'cause I really expected so much from my MajOr against monsters like Naniwa and TLO, but good job brothers... and in the other side... TLO pwning, fuck yeah... | ||
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
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Kenthros
United States95 Posts
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bosnia
Canada223 Posts
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mostevil
United Kingdom611 Posts
On May 05 2013 02:24 Ireniicas wrote: America for Americans Native Americans? It's the natural order of things for the continent, the Koreans have landed, get back on your reservations you savages! Take these blankets... Feels like an issue of mindset, perhaps its just bravado for the streams but there seems to be a sense of entitlement in the way a lot of US pro's talk about it. That's not how you get to be the best at anything... Even the tiny SEA server and the embattled china scene are putting up a better fight the the over monied NA. And lets not forget, with the exception of a couple of IM guys it's western teams shipping in the Korean players. | ||
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StreetWise
United States594 Posts
On May 04 2013 13:05 Bagration wrote: A lot of NA players are falling just short. Minigun was 1 game from beating Apocalypse and advancing, and Illusion was 1 game from beating Alicia and advancing. It's not that they can't take games, it's that they can't take games on a consistent basis, which means the probability of advancing is low. You know, I was just thinking about what you said. Americans are capable of taking games, so that means that the skill set is there. I just wonder what makes a player more consistent. Its that element, that we are missing. Maybe its mental toughness? Who knows, but I hope American teams figure it out and are able to change up their training regimen to overcome this.... | ||
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oucho
United Kingdom22 Posts
if it was just americans it would be a bunch of shit players earning a lot of money with little motivation to push themselves to challenge the koreans, this situation can only benefit american players | ||
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Scio
Germany522 Posts
On May 06 2013 08:15 oucho wrote: everyone complaining about koreans in WCS NA is an idiot, the presence of decent koreans in America gives the american players a chance to compete with them and hopefully reach a higher level, the fact that the koreans are there raised the level of the tournament and means that any american playing in america can now reach a higher level of sc2 without having to travel to korea, if anything this should benefit american players if it was just americans it would be a bunch of shit players earning a lot of money with little motivation to push themselves to challenge the koreans, this situation can only benefit american players Yeah, surely NA players will improve a lot after getting beaten into the ground in a handful Bo3s. /sarcasm | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2605 Posts
On May 06 2013 08:49 Scio wrote: Yeah, surely NA players will improve a lot after getting beaten into the ground in a handful Bo3s. /sarcasm NA players have already got beaten into the ground in ladder by Byun and Polt... I feel the more important thing is the attitude that AM pros will need. Koreans who play on WCS AM will play in the NA server to get used to the lag, and when they travel to the US to play the offline games, they will also likely ladder in that region. So we will be seeing many more Koreans dominating ladder pretty soon (currently it's only Byun and Polt, but imagine when you are the top foreigner in NA and then you play 15 Koreans in a row and lose 15 times in a row...) you have to understand that you should not give up and hope you don't run into another person leagues above you. You analyse the replays, see how they did better than you. You work out things that you need to work on to hold the sick timings and harass the Koreans effectively. You practice these things hundreds of times in private games (if you can convince Byun to hellbat drop you over and over again, the better) and then suddenly you are way better than all the other NA players who just ladder all day every day. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
Come from a foreign country and use your raw talent to make a boat load of money. I think that was the American Dream last time I checked. :p | ||
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VTPerfect
United States487 Posts
Theres a huge laundry list of reasons NA is trash in terms of skill but the scene made its bed and its now time to sleep in it. | ||
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
On May 06 2013 08:15 oucho wrote: everyone complaining about koreans in WCS NA is an idiot, the presence of decent koreans in America gives the american players a chance to compete with them and hopefully reach a higher level, the fact that the koreans are there raised the level of the tournament and means that any american playing in america can now reach a higher level of sc2 without having to travel to korea, if anything this should benefit american players if it was just americans it would be a bunch of shit players earning a lot of money with little motivation to push themselves to challenge the koreans, this situation can only benefit american players Honestly, I don't think they will be motivated to improve (like a Korean does) either way. Koreans have been attending foreign tournaments forever, just like this one. It's like those tournaments where Violet and ForGG attended and just dominated the foreigners. Would they be more competitive if there weren't any Koreans? Doubt it, but at least Americans would be able to see Americans win something, like WCS USA/WCS NA. I found the format last year to be quite nice since it pretty much accommodated everyone. The country-specific tournaments allowed there to be this "national winner" while the Continent-specific and Global tournaments allowed there to be this "true winner". This situation is the same as its always been! But, I don't actually mind. Koreans play better, which is the only thing that matters to me. I could care less whether they are Korean or from outer space, as long as I get to see good games, ya know? | ||
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ke_ivan
Singapore374 Posts
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damn 
