EPTMore important for MLG to make a shitty corporate PR apology and quickly pretend it never happened so the foreigner community quickly forgets about it.
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
More important for MLG to make a shitty corporate PR apology and quickly pretend it never happened so the foreigner community quickly forgets about it. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
Regarding Comm, risking a disqualification for playing on a "smurf" account (Comm didn't deny his identity) is better than not playing at all, I hate to be derogatory but some of you need to learn to think, he didn't have any options. On April 24 2013 08:23 Gamegene wrote: I seriously doubt Sundance and MLG actually care about the Chinese scene at all to mention how they badly they screwed them over. If they did, they would be actively working with Blizzard on a solution to seed or hold separate qualifiers into WCS NA as compensation for their incompetence, but no: More important for MLG to make a shitty corporate PR apology and quickly pretend it never happened so the foreigner community quickly forgets about it. I concur, I don't think they care at all. | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
On April 24 2013 08:23 Gamegene wrote: More important for MLG to make a shitty corporate PR apology and quickly pretend it never happened so the foreigner community quickly forgets about it. I get it. like what they do with almost everything right? | ||
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cladoliver
Brazil38 Posts
last year we have a blink of hope with WCS announcement and even a IEM on brazil.. we have WCS Brazil, Chile, Mexico, Argentina and Peru. now we have NOTHING, only untouchable's tournaments like WCS NA, just tell me how a brazillian/south american player can keep playing starcraft 2 without no big championship to dream? how a 15 years old would prefer to play sc2 with 0 champions when dota 2 and lol have weeklys and monthlys tournaments in south america??? Its unfair, simple unfair... if anyone here thinks play in a qualify and get kicked by a korean for 0-2 is gonna make someone wants to be best, u are completely wrong... if u want to exclude south america/ china/ taiwan from WCS REGIONS, FINE BLIZZARD. but give us at least national tournaments for at least one time per year... sorry for my poor english, but china pain is south america pain | ||
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Gonff
United States686 Posts
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playa
United States1284 Posts
On April 24 2013 07:59 MadProbe wrote: apparently jim was rank 1 kr gm. he would have qualified easily. Can this be verified? If so, wow... Now I'm mad. So many people getting fucked, I don't even know which one to focus on. | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
If they cared about anyone else's opinion they would have made that clear earlier. If you want to help things change, send MLG an email about what you think they should change, and DON'T WATCH WCS NA. Give WCS all your support by watching and subscribing to WCS EU and WCS KR, but refuse to support the organization that is incapable of hosting legitimate tournaments. eSports is not going to die anytime soon. There are many lessons to be learned, so be smart about how you handle yourselves in regards to the scene. The lessons MLG can learn here is how important everyone is in eSports. They have proven over and over that even though they know how to host offline events, they don't know how to respect the people they work with. Give MLG the fewest viewers by far while still supporting the other 3 WCS tournaments, while at the same time throwing MLG huge amounts of positive feedback will slap them in the face while also showing them what we all think needs to happen to make them legitimate. | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
![[image loading]](http://gallery.cnfrag.com/content/eSports/SITV/gleague/2012s2/_MG_2447.JPG) This the VoD and a picture from the SC2 portion of the G-League Finals, the last major Chinese LAN esports event which happened this march | ||
digmouse
China6330 Posts
On April 24 2013 08:43 playa wrote: Can this be verified? If so, wow... Now I'm mad. So many people getting fucked, I don't even know which one to focus on. I can confirm as of 24th April one of the barcode Protoss in top 10 KR GM is Jim. | ||
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Wertheron
France439 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On April 24 2013 08:44 Shinta) wrote: I don't think there should even be any more discussion over this. MLG is not going to make any changes to benefit anyone, because they have already run the tournament that they wanted to run. If they cared about anyone else's opinion they would have made that clear earlier. If you want to help things change, send MLG an email about what you think they should change, and DON'T WATCH WCS NA. lol. boycotting is retarded for a number of reasons, but for this particular one it doesn't tell them which issue you're specifically angry enough about to boycott a stream. important for people to get loud and angry and bring out the pitchforks, because otherwise MLG can and will blissfully try to avoid the fact they fucked up. in fact, Sundance's first reaction was to criticize the fans as being unable to understand the difficulties of trying to please them, instead of immediately sincerely acknowledging and apologizing. i highly doubt the man would have even said a word if there wasn't such an outrage on reddit and over 1000 pages of criticism on TL. | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
On April 24 2013 07:28 t e a C h e r wrote: Woah, team leagues don't count as points towards WCS, neither does ladder ( hence why Demuslim didnt get an invite, yah ur top of ladder, but if u dont have tournament results, why should u be awarded a spot?). If there are 7-10 chinese players that are GM on korea, why not fly to the code B qualifer? Why not sign up for Europe? then as a last resort, if u can't make any of those, u can sign up for NA. So a very prominent player like DeMusliM who actually plays in many tournaments (NASL the most recent I can remember where he did exceptionally well, 2nd place WCS UK) doesn't get an invite, but players like Capoch and Maker who havent had ANY outstanding results besides placing well in their respective countries' WCS last year get invites? What about IdrA as well, or Fenix? Yeah I know there is some wonky algorithm that Blizzard used to come up with the invitees based off of WCS points from last year. But looking at the way others from different regions got invites, there seems to be no real basis to go off of why certain people got invited. From a business standpoint, Blizzard should have looked at players who have results AND marketability, which DeMusliM certainly has, i mean come on, its fucking Ben Baker here. Anyways besides that, Chinese players got screwed over, period. These players work as hard as other pro gamers yet get their spots taken by random gold leaguers who cheese first round and get slaughtered. The fact that a worldwide brand such as MLG does not have the infrastructure to conduct an open bracket, something that they have been renowned for at LANs, as well as shuts down an astounding run by Comm is beyond stupid. It is unfair for them. It is also unfair that hackers were able to play through many rounds, HyuN played through and beat people, and there was a crazy amount of downtime. Next time, MLG, next time. Hopefully. | ||
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larse
1611 Posts
The Chinese academic and student extra-curricular environment is extremely competitive due to the population density and traditional societal values, the vast majority of parents and students themselves often regard gaming as a waste of time at best, and illegitimate or even undesirable at worst. This combined with the central government’s historical stance on internet control, standardized educational testing and evaluation, and the illegitimacy of video games as a hobby or art form makes it almost impossible to convince parents to allow their children to participate or commit in esports. Chinese BW has also gone through the same sordid history of struggling against stereotype, and survives as the majority of old legends and former pros are in their thirties or late twenties and are capable of making personal decisions about their own livelihoods. However both communities are still struggling to find new blood with in the scene. The governmental and societal attitude toward professional gaming is not that different in China and in many other countries. The Chinese exceptionalism is such a syndrome in a lot of writings and academic literature on China by Chinese writers. Such degree of exceptionalism really needs a systematic cross-national analysis to justify. | ||
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PeterDLai
United States924 Posts
On April 24 2013 08:46 Kupon3ss wrote: + Show Spoiler + http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTI1MDMxNTYw.html This the VoD and a picture from the SC2 portion of the G-League Finals, the last major Chinese LAN esports event which happened this march + Show Spoiler + Edit: NM I was wrong. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
read the dates on the liquipedia article? | ||
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t e a C h e r
Canada151 Posts
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PeterDLai
United States924 Posts
Ah, k. I'm too used to the convention that the year in the tournament title coincides with the year that the finals take place. | ||
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dvorakftw
681 Posts
Will OP be edited to explain the difference between check-in confirmation and registration priority? And is the Chinese scene so so fragile that it won't survive a few months to do things right in WCS Season 2? And is Heart of the Swarm banned by the authoritarian Chinese Communist government? I get that impression but I can't really tell. I looked up http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Chinese_SC2_scene and it seems the original problem for StarCraft II popularity was Wings of Liberty was banned and then heavily restricted. | ||
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digmouse
China6330 Posts
On April 24 2013 09:09 dvorakftw wrote: Will OP be edited to explain the difference between check-in confirmation and registration priority? And is the Chinese scene so so fragile that it won't survive a few months to do things right in WCS Season 2? And is Heart of the Swarm banned by the authoritarian Chinese Communist government? I get that impression but I can't really tell. I looked up http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Chinese_SC2_scene and it seems the original problem for StarCraft II popularity was Wings of Liberty was banned and then heavily restricted. WoL was not banned, it was just reviewing process taking long. HotS neither, the review process is underway and it will release soon. | ||
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