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t e a C h e r
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada151 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 03:48:25
April 24 2013 03:35 GMT
#101
lol
@bullscent , twitch: teacherwish
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 03:39:23
April 24 2013 03:38 GMT
#102
you guys actually think the starcraft scene there might grow if these few Chineses have some successes in WCS?

No, not until Blizzard adds LAN (aka never) because the mass audience in China just refuse to buy the game and pirate instead. A few dozens of (mediocre) players like Jim, Xigua cant/wont keep the scene alive & developing

Meanwhile the Taiwanese scene seems ok with all these teams & leagues. Pretty sure they might wanna regard themselves as a different entity than the Chinese one
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
April 24 2013 03:40 GMT
#103
I actually can't understand how this is even slightly a big deal. Comm got DQed (hopefully just from the qualifier) for cheating (the system) and the other Chinese players didn't register fast enough (qualifier was first register, first serve, which is fine by me).

MLG did a shitty job of the qualifiers, but the Chinese players have nothing more to complain about than anybody else does.

Obviously there should have been at LEAST a 1024 player bracket and MLG have come from this event looking like a pack of incompetent arseholes, but Chinese players in particular didn't get treated any differently to anybody else.
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
April 24 2013 03:58 GMT
#104
If this ends Infi's career, I will flip tables.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 04:13:25
April 24 2013 04:12 GMT
#105
On April 24 2013 12:38 Arceus wrote:
you guys actually think the starcraft scene there might grow if these few Chineses have some successes in WCS?

No, not until Blizzard adds LAN (aka never) because the mass audience in China just refuse to buy the game and pirate instead. A few dozens of (mediocre) players like Jim, Xigua cant/wont keep the scene alive & developing

Meanwhile the Taiwanese scene seems ok with all these teams & leagues. Pretty sure they might wanna regard themselves as a different entity than the Chinese one


The Taiwanese scene is worse than the Chinese one skill wise.

But I do agree with SC 2 being finished in China. It isn't even about it being free / not free. China simply isn't into RTS games.

LoL is the biggest competitive game in China, and Dota 2 is hopefully going to get a shot. That's it.
FindMeInKenya
Profile Joined February 2011
United States797 Posts
April 24 2013 04:13 GMT
#106
On April 24 2013 12:35 t e a C h e r wrote:
lol


I'm glad you edited your post. What you wrote previously was extremely offensive and racist.
dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
April 24 2013 04:15 GMT
#107
On April 24 2013 12:31 Kim Hyuna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 12:20 Enders116 wrote:
On April 24 2013 07:36 t e a C h e r wrote:
How is EU unplayable for the chinese? Its right below russia, Ur telling me the russians have bad ping to EU server?
Or you know this because you lived in china, and played sc2 there? Im pretty sure the chinese are closer to EU, than across the pacific all the way to america.

Have you registered a Chinese sc2 account before? Have you ever tried to connect to the Chinese server from outside of China or connected to a server outside of China from China?

Have you done anything except posted skeptical, borderline troll posts on teamliquid.net?

The bottom line is the WCS is known as the World Championship Series. The term "world" implies that every country that has players will participate in it. Hell, even PandaTank from South Africa tried his luck in the WCS EU Qualifiers and I believe made it to the round of 16 one day.

Long story short, this paragraph is bolded because it is exactly things like this (and skeptics like you) that is keeping eSports from growing, and China has the second largest economy in the world and is the only one that can come close to beating the USA in the Olympics. Imagine if eSports had more players from China and that more and more players from China were taking place in tournaments like NASL, IEM, and so on. Imagine if the player-base in China were ten times larger from starcraft 2 becoming a free to play game (like LoL). This would create a potentially huge market for eSports. There has been more investment in SC2 in China in the year 2012 than any year before it, but if you even think I am wrong, go ahead and reply to this post. I will not even bother trying to shoot you down because I have no more time to waste with you.

On April 24 2013 11:23 Kim Hyuna wrote:
[image loading]

FYI, it says:

"FUCK HIS MUM"
"I CAN'T ENDURE THIS TYPE OF SHIT FROM MLG"
"I'M GOING TO SEEK AN EXPLANATION".

Pretty epic lol!

I am so sorry this had to happen. in the red text, that is the actual coach of team iG. I want to seek a statement from him as well.


It's very unprofessional for a big renowned team like IG to get someone's mum into the picture.


On the bright side, "chinese people are very faithful and trusting people".
FindMeInKenya
Profile Joined February 2011
United States797 Posts
April 24 2013 04:26 GMT
#108
On April 24 2013 13:15 dvorakftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 12:31 Kim Hyuna wrote:
On April 24 2013 12:20 Enders116 wrote:
On April 24 2013 07:36 t e a C h e r wrote:
How is EU unplayable for the chinese? Its right below russia, Ur telling me the russians have bad ping to EU server?
Or you know this because you lived in china, and played sc2 there? Im pretty sure the chinese are closer to EU, than across the pacific all the way to america.

Have you registered a Chinese sc2 account before? Have you ever tried to connect to the Chinese server from outside of China or connected to a server outside of China from China?

Have you done anything except posted skeptical, borderline troll posts on teamliquid.net?

The bottom line is the WCS is known as the World Championship Series. The term "world" implies that every country that has players will participate in it. Hell, even PandaTank from South Africa tried his luck in the WCS EU Qualifiers and I believe made it to the round of 16 one day.

Long story short, this paragraph is bolded because it is exactly things like this (and skeptics like you) that is keeping eSports from growing, and China has the second largest economy in the world and is the only one that can come close to beating the USA in the Olympics. Imagine if eSports had more players from China and that more and more players from China were taking place in tournaments like NASL, IEM, and so on. Imagine if the player-base in China were ten times larger from starcraft 2 becoming a free to play game (like LoL). This would create a potentially huge market for eSports. There has been more investment in SC2 in China in the year 2012 than any year before it, but if you even think I am wrong, go ahead and reply to this post. I will not even bother trying to shoot you down because I have no more time to waste with you.

On April 24 2013 11:23 Kim Hyuna wrote:
[image loading]

FYI, it says:

"FUCK HIS MUM"
"I CAN'T ENDURE THIS TYPE OF SHIT FROM MLG"
"I'M GOING TO SEEK AN EXPLANATION".

Pretty epic lol!

I am so sorry this had to happen. in the red text, that is the actual coach of team iG. I want to seek a statement from him as well.


It's very unprofessional for a big renowned team like IG to get someone's mum into the picture.


On the bright side, "chinese people are very faithful and trusting people".


So you are implying Chinese people are not very faithful and trusting people. Cool stuff bro.
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
April 24 2013 04:30 GMT
#109
You mistranslated what he had to say.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
April 24 2013 04:35 GMT
#110
The biggest fucking issue I have at the moment is HoTS is STILL NOT RELEASED on the Chinese server.

I can login to my NA account on a different SC client and play HoTS (albeit at ~300ms ping) just fine, but when I bought a copy of WoL for the Chinese server, I was promised a free upgrade to HoTS. Blizzard's decision to delay HoTS release for China indefinitely (still no official date of release) pisses me off as a player and viewer.

How can Chinese players practice properly, faced with either an obsolete WoL client or 300-400ms ping playing on other servers?

I've never really lashed out at Blizzard before, but fuck, they really fucked up this time.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
April 24 2013 04:36 GMT
#111
How is it Comm's fault that he played on the account of another person, who consented to this? Yes, it's against the rules to do so, but he wouldn't have had to if MLG had included the Chinese players in the bracket. I won't say the DQ was wrong or right, but it's unfair to say Comm could have done anything about his situation that he didn't already try.
jjakji fan
dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
April 24 2013 04:37 GMT
#112
On April 24 2013 13:26 FindMeInKenya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 13:15 dvorakftw wrote:
On April 24 2013 12:31 Kim Hyuna wrote:
On April 24 2013 12:20 Enders116 wrote:
On April 24 2013 07:36 t e a C h e r wrote:
How is EU unplayable for the chinese? Its right below russia, Ur telling me the russians have bad ping to EU server?
Or you know this because you lived in china, and played sc2 there? Im pretty sure the chinese are closer to EU, than across the pacific all the way to america.

Have you registered a Chinese sc2 account before? Have you ever tried to connect to the Chinese server from outside of China or connected to a server outside of China from China?

Have you done anything except posted skeptical, borderline troll posts on teamliquid.net?

The bottom line is the WCS is known as the World Championship Series. The term "world" implies that every country that has players will participate in it. Hell, even PandaTank from South Africa tried his luck in the WCS EU Qualifiers and I believe made it to the round of 16 one day.

Long story short, this paragraph is bolded because it is exactly things like this (and skeptics like you) that is keeping eSports from growing, and China has the second largest economy in the world and is the only one that can come close to beating the USA in the Olympics. Imagine if eSports had more players from China and that more and more players from China were taking place in tournaments like NASL, IEM, and so on. Imagine if the player-base in China were ten times larger from starcraft 2 becoming a free to play game (like LoL). This would create a potentially huge market for eSports. There has been more investment in SC2 in China in the year 2012 than any year before it, but if you even think I am wrong, go ahead and reply to this post. I will not even bother trying to shoot you down because I have no more time to waste with you.

On April 24 2013 11:23 Kim Hyuna wrote:
[image loading]

FYI, it says:

"FUCK HIS MUM"
"I CAN'T ENDURE THIS TYPE OF SHIT FROM MLG"
"I'M GOING TO SEEK AN EXPLANATION".

Pretty epic lol!

I am so sorry this had to happen. in the red text, that is the actual coach of team iG. I want to seek a statement from him as well.


It's very unprofessional for a big renowned team like IG to get someone's mum into the picture.


On the bright side, "chinese people are very faithful and trusting people".


So you are implying Chinese people are not very faithful and trusting people. Cool stuff bro.

I'm mocking people who think it's valid to group rather than consider the individual. I do make the exception of holding a low opinion on people who use the phrase "Cool stuff bro" however.
dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
April 24 2013 04:39 GMT
#113
On April 24 2013 13:36 slowbacontron wrote:
How is it Comm's fault that he played on the account of another person, who consented to this? Yes, it's against the rules to do so, but he wouldn't have had to if MLG had included the Chinese players in the bracket. I won't say the DQ was wrong or right, but it's unfair to say Comm could have done anything about his situation that he didn't already try.

How about trying to be the among first 512 people to register for WCS AMericas Season 2? Not that we'll see the same system used then.
water116
Profile Joined April 2013
China1 Post
April 24 2013 04:41 GMT
#114
Thx a lot,form Neotv.water116
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
April 24 2013 04:45 GMT
#115
So MLG killed e-sports in China. Thanks MLG.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
April 24 2013 04:46 GMT
#116
On April 24 2013 13:41 water116 wrote:
Thx a lot,form Neotv.water116

Who are you at NeoTV? I am 宾哥。
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
jalen
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia222 Posts
April 24 2013 04:50 GMT
#117
OMG, i am unbaned!!!I am free!!
Why don't you play other Dota kind games? Because there is no Denies!!!!
jalen
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia222 Posts
April 24 2013 04:51 GMT
#118
On April 24 2013 06:04 hellokittySC2 wrote:
i'm sure taiwanese teams would like to be separate from the chinese sc2 scene.
and i'll be representing both USA and China in WCS NA

haha, hellokitty good job
Why don't you play other Dota kind games? Because there is no Denies!!!!
jalen
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia222 Posts
April 24 2013 04:54 GMT
#119
On April 24 2013 12:38 Arceus wrote:
you guys actually think the starcraft scene there might grow if these few Chineses have some successes in WCS?

No, not until Blizzard adds LAN (aka never) because the mass audience in China just refuse to buy the game and pirate instead. A few dozens of (mediocre) players like Jim, Xigua cant/wont keep the scene alive & developing

Meanwhile the Taiwanese scene seems ok with all these teams & leagues. Pretty sure they might wanna regard themselves as a different entity than the Chinese one

Ha, time is different now, We got millions of people on line when Wol release. SC2 in china sold at very cheap price.
Why don't you play other Dota kind games? Because there is no Denies!!!!
jalen
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia222 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 05:32:57
April 24 2013 05:02 GMT
#120
On April 24 2013 11:50 Kim Hyuna wrote:
Although i'm an asian, i do agreed that the chinese is at fault on this.

Like some said, rules is rules. Nothing is bigger than rules.

And if he wants to play, register with his own nick and play. Not getting someone's nick instead.

Not to offense the chinese, but chinese tends to find easier way or short cut to get things done.

Why? i deal with them in real life many times.

Now you know why China is one of the most corrupted country worldwide.

Ha, OZ, alive, JYP, JD, all the korean guys are register after top 512 spot, so what MLG do? kick out some guy from the top 512 and give the spots to the seeded player, thats make the rule totally a joke. You should reserve your 64 seeded spot not rob the spots from the players who register earlier or just announce top 452 players register first get in the bracket.
And don't say China is one the most corrupted country, same as yours.

User was warned for quadruple posting
Why don't you play other Dota kind games? Because there is no Denies!!!!
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