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Bodzilla
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia472 Posts
April 25 2013 01:27 GMT
#281
Comm wasn't the only WCS champ to not get a seed.

PiG is the Australian WCS champion and he got nothing, despite him being in tremendous form at the moment.
At the ACL event in Brisbane (australias equivalent to MLG) he got 2nd place only loosing out to Kingkong (an ex-startale player currently studying in australia).

hell a shitload of australian competitors didnt even get to compete because they where AT a national lan tournament on the day the signups where.
when life gives you lemons, make banelings
jalen
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia222 Posts
April 25 2013 04:44 GMT
#282
On April 25 2013 10:27 Bodzilla wrote:
Comm wasn't the only WCS champ to not get a seed.

PiG is the Australian WCS champion and he got nothing, despite him being in tremendous form at the moment.
At the ACL event in Brisbane (australias equivalent to MLG) he got 2nd place only loosing out to Kingkong (an ex-startale player currently studying in australia).

hell a shitload of australian competitors didnt even get to compete because they where AT a national lan tournament on the day the signups where.


Maybe MLG thought Moonglade was the Champion》
Why don't you play other Dota kind games? Because there is no Denies!!!!
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 25 2013 05:04 GMT
#283
On April 25 2013 13:44 jalen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 10:27 Bodzilla wrote:
Comm wasn't the only WCS champ to not get a seed.

PiG is the Australian WCS champion and he got nothing, despite him being in tremendous form at the moment.
At the ACL event in Brisbane (australias equivalent to MLG) he got 2nd place only loosing out to Kingkong (an ex-startale player currently studying in australia).

hell a shitload of australian competitors didnt even get to compete because they where AT a national lan tournament on the day the signups where.


Maybe MLG thought Moonglade was the Champion》


Moonglade is more well known i supose to the outside world. More viewers that way.

Also the reason we don't see an invite to the Chinese WCS champion.
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa995 Posts
April 25 2013 07:14 GMT
#284
Thank you for this very informative article! All the best for the chinese scene!
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
April 25 2013 13:09 GMT
#285
This is great, thanks.

But the part about the societal attitude toward gaming seems quite different from what I've experienced. I agree that older people are still very anti-gaming, but the teenagers and university students are fucking crazy into this shit. Most universities here (similarly to Korea, I believe,) cut off electricity and certainly Internet at a certain time to prevent students from staying up all night gaming.

Other than that, great write-up.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
April 25 2013 13:20 GMT
#286
On April 25 2013 22:09 blacksheepwall wrote:
This is great, thanks.

But the part about the societal attitude toward gaming seems quite different from what I've experienced. I agree that older people are still very anti-gaming, but the teenagers and university students are fucking crazy into this shit. Most universities here (similarly to Korea, I believe,) cut off electricity and certainly Internet at a certain time to prevent students from staying up all night gaming.

Other than that, great write-up.


What do you mean, that's exactly what I'm talking about, parents / schools / mainstream culture won't allow their children to game, because of this traditionally only people in their 20s and 30s who are capable of making their own life decisions go into professional gaming. The pressurized environment in China makes it so people get easily obsessed with hobbies or activities, it can be obsession with studying or work or gaming, the people who have the luxury to indulge in imported western life styles who party and buy expensive branded bull shit and fly everywhere in the world do that instead of gaming.

I don't think I can remember many Chinese progamers who started their official career until they reached 19 or 20 years of age. A few years of age difference is huge in progaming circles. It's a pretty big deal that we have people like Jim who is only 17 right now playing for iG.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
April 25 2013 14:50 GMT
#287
On April 25 2013 22:20 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 22:09 blacksheepwall wrote:
This is great, thanks.

But the part about the societal attitude toward gaming seems quite different from what I've experienced. I agree that older people are still very anti-gaming, but the teenagers and university students are fucking crazy into this shit. Most universities here (similarly to Korea, I believe,) cut off electricity and certainly Internet at a certain time to prevent students from staying up all night gaming.

Other than that, great write-up.


I don't think I can remember many Chinese progamers who started their official career until they reached 19 or 20 years of age. A few years of age difference is huge in progaming circles. It's a pretty big deal that we have people like Jim who is only 17 right now playing for iG.

This. Jim hasn't been to Korea for training or to the GSL (to the best of my knowledge). He's GM top 10 or 20 on the Korean ladder last I heard.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
H.R.Giger
Profile Joined December 2011
China27 Posts
April 25 2013 14:53 GMT
#288
Great post! It is a pity that China is left behind, while SC is growing all over the world.
ashita wa ashita no kaze ga fuku
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
April 25 2013 18:21 GMT
#289
On April 24 2013 07:34 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 06:56 prabhbhambra13 wrote:
On April 24 2013 06:09 hellokittySC2 wrote:
On April 24 2013 06:04 Nordom wrote:
A part from not being among the 24 invited players, I don't understand what is anti-chinese about a first come first serve 512 player bracket?

I agree that either the bracket should be bigger or have more of them, but I assume the chinese players had the same opportunity as anyone else to register as quick as possible or am I missing something?

the chinese players were Registered and Checked in ahead of time but then they got no spots.

player spots were awarded on who registered for the tournament first rather than who checked in first. when they checked in they were on a waiting list in case some of the people who had places didn't show.

im convinced that there is a priority queue for known players or progamers from na, eu and kr but not sea and cn.


You said priority queue and the first thing that came to mind was the data structure implementation and what data to use to numerically determine priority.
This is what happens when professional computer nerds sleep for 2 hours.
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2109 Posts
April 26 2013 15:00 GMT
#290
Wow how long did it take you to learn mandarin?
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 26 2013 15:48 GMT
#291
comm needs to play d3 so he can start hating blizzard
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
April 26 2013 21:43 GMT
#292
On April 25 2013 14:04 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 13:44 jalen wrote:
On April 25 2013 10:27 Bodzilla wrote:
Comm wasn't the only WCS champ to not get a seed.

PiG is the Australian WCS champion and he got nothing, despite him being in tremendous form at the moment.
At the ACL event in Brisbane (australias equivalent to MLG) he got 2nd place only loosing out to Kingkong (an ex-startale player currently studying in australia).

hell a shitload of australian competitors didnt even get to compete because they where AT a national lan tournament on the day the signups where.


Maybe MLG thought Moonglade was the Champion》


Moonglade is more well known i supose to the outside world. More viewers that way.

Also the reason we don't see an invite to the Chinese WCS champion.

I'll agree Moonglade is well known, however your mini argument is that they'll get more viewers having Moonglade than the Chinese players? I think that's the most incorrect statement of the hour. Obviously if you bring the Chinese players in you'll have hundreds more viewers at the very least than if you have Moonglade. Probably thousands more.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 20:14:11
April 27 2013 20:13 GMT
#293
wrong thread :p
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
April 28 2013 16:20 GMT
#294
This is really unfortunate, considering what they have to put up with the CN scene has been doing really well. It is annoying to see MLG screw up again, this time at Chinas expense (and SC2 as a whole).
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
April 28 2013 21:10 GMT
#295
Thanks for the article, Cai. It helps shed light on this unfortunate scenario.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
April 28 2013 21:35 GMT
#296
On April 29 2013 06:10 Ichabod wrote:
Thanks for the article, Cai. It helps shed light on this unfortunate scenario.


Your welcome
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
IMMoonLight
Profile Joined April 2012
Korea (South)332 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 02:12:48
April 30 2013 02:05 GMT
#297
On April 25 2013 23:50 Enders116 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 22:20 Caihead wrote:
On April 25 2013 22:09 blacksheepwall wrote:
This is great, thanks.

But the part about the societal attitude toward gaming seems quite different from what I've experienced. I agree that older people are still very anti-gaming, but the teenagers and university students are fucking crazy into this shit. Most universities here (similarly to Korea, I believe,) cut off electricity and certainly Internet at a certain time to prevent students from staying up all night gaming.

Other than that, great write-up.


I don't think I can remember many Chinese progamers who started their official career until they reached 19 or 20 years of age. A few years of age difference is huge in progaming circles. It's a pretty big deal that we have people like Jim who is only 17 right now playing for iG.

This. Jim hasn't been to Korea for training or to the GSL (to the best of my knowledge). He's GM top 10 or 20 on the Korean ladder last I heard.

Jim, a top 20 grandmaster on Korean Ladder, is a coming monster and so young ( born in 1995) .He got 4 kill when IG agains Teamliquid.
A new champion for China G league 2013 ...
It seems he is the Chinese "ST.LIFE".
I am so sorry for the new coming monster didn't get the chance to show his talent.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
April 30 2013 02:58 GMT
#298
On April 30 2013 11:05 IMMoonLight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 23:50 Enders116 wrote:
On April 25 2013 22:20 Caihead wrote:
On April 25 2013 22:09 blacksheepwall wrote:
This is great, thanks.

But the part about the societal attitude toward gaming seems quite different from what I've experienced. I agree that older people are still very anti-gaming, but the teenagers and university students are fucking crazy into this shit. Most universities here (similarly to Korea, I believe,) cut off electricity and certainly Internet at a certain time to prevent students from staying up all night gaming.

Other than that, great write-up.


I don't think I can remember many Chinese progamers who started their official career until they reached 19 or 20 years of age. A few years of age difference is huge in progaming circles. It's a pretty big deal that we have people like Jim who is only 17 right now playing for iG.

This. Jim hasn't been to Korea for training or to the GSL (to the best of my knowledge). He's GM top 10 or 20 on the Korean ladder last I heard.

Jim, a top 20 grandmaster on Korean Ladder, is a coming monster and so young ( born in 1995) .He got 4 kill when IG agains Teamliquid.
A new champion for China G league 2013 ...
It seems he is the Chinese "ST.LIFE".
I am so sorry for the new coming monster didn't get the chance to show his talent.

This.

MLG/Blizzard's response to these huge MLG failures is basically "well, things will get set right eventually, so let's not think of it as a big deal"

They don't seem to realize that every year is different. People dominate and base their careers depending on their performances during particular time periods.

This is THE time that Jim would be dominating the world. These are careers that would be made and set in stone that are being trashed due to MLG's mistakes.

I'm not going to throw too much at MLG about Jim in particular, but as an example, this situation is much more crucial than it's made out to be by the administrations in charge.

Imagine if Mvp hadn't been allowed to show anyone his skill during the year he basically won everything....
Imagine if Life hadn't been allowed to show anyone his skill last year when he basically won everything....

They would be thought of as much weaker players in general since they are still good players but not winning literally everything. Thus they wouldn't have the career they have now.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
kingofdark
Profile Joined April 2013
China3 Posts
April 30 2013 05:24 GMT
#299
now Chinese player and team
IG Macsed IG xigua IG tea IG xluos IG xy
IG Jim
We Loner We Lovecd
Zoo LoveTT(also manager) Zoo loup
Zoo courage Zoo how Zoo smileboy
VG comm VG ash VG infi VG F91
no team
Toodming yhy uhen
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
April 30 2013 05:39 GMT
#300
On April 30 2013 14:24 kingofdark wrote:
now Chinese player and team
IG Macsed IG xigua IG tea IG xluos IG xy
IG Jim
We Loner We Lovecd
Zoo LoveTT(also manager) Zoo loup
Zoo courage Zoo how Zoo smileboy
VG comm VG ash VG infi VG F91
no team
Toodming yhy uhen

It's been so long I forgot what uhen's old WC3 name used to be... Good to see Infi is still playing though.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
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