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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
I don't know why people thumbed down the oracle one. Oracle don't seem that fast to me... | ||
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magnaflow
Canada1521 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
we should rename TeamLiquid forums to TeamLiquid Zerg forums. And I AM zerg lol. In my opinion, all three changes are welcome. However I'd much rather see a buff to hydra AA(NOT anti-ground) rather than a "subtle" buff for zvz. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3132 Posts
On April 23 2013 10:19 magnaflow wrote: I still think they should add some splash damage to the spore crawler. Would help with Muta v Muta and skytoss, while not affecting ZvT muta play shouldnt go away completely. with spore splash it almost certainly would, save gimmicks. kind of intense to have static defense do splash damage, too. but i wouldn't complain, as a zerg. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
ZvZ was glorious towards the end of WoL (fuck the haters :p), and may be in need of some minor changes. Oracles are fun to watch zoom around, and toss needs more harass potential to keep them interesting like Zerg and Terran. Less defend into deathball Burrow is already good. Maybe just 10 sec off the research time. | ||
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Scones
Wales99 Posts
Oracles don't need a buff. If they're unscouted, they can wreck your mineral line instantly already. Terran is not even mentioned. I would like to see a small medivac nerf. I like the burrow idea, I am a big burrow fan. Why would they change spore damage? They did that already, so that mutas wont fly over them. Increasing the damage won't change a thing. Mutas still wont fly over them. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27445 Posts
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
Please can someone explain me why hydras / infestors are not a good way to go in ZvZ ? Why has it changed since WoL or anything ? Don't tell me that mutas' acceleration changed everything cauz clearly I didn't notice it... (And i'm playing mutas since bw...) Infestors' fungal may be harder to land it perfectly, but it's not like it's impossible to be able to do it... I feel like a lot of zergs have been lazy lately with the current ZvT and ZvP's changes that they don't want their ZvZ to be changed too. | ||
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IronManSC
United States2119 Posts
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biaxiong
United States180 Posts
Protoss buff, I voted Yes. No Terran nerf, I agree on as well as all Terrans. | ||
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Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
On April 23 2013 10:04 -Kyo- wrote: Probably the fact that this does not address the issues most players have been speaking about. TvZ, Medivacs, PvZ lategame etc. I play protoss and I'll be the first to tell you: If I max and am just sitting on 4 base banking money you're more than likely going to lose sooner or later as the zerg. It's pretty awful. Burrow sounds interesting, though I don't really see the point. I think it may produce some nice gimmick plays for a short while but they'll just be fringe status/not part of main builds. Oracle buff??? Why??? .... I don't even understand that one :/ Well, hopefully they decide to take the majority of all pro gamers opinions and look into the things I noted at the top... Especially considering people have been saying the same things since beta and they've not been addressed yet... @_@;; surely I am not agreeing with a kyo post | ||
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MugenXBanksy
United States479 Posts
On April 23 2013 09:31 DemigodcelpH wrote: Blizzard is doing quite well. Rather reasonable I suppose. A buff to burrow could be problematic though especially because they don't have a concrete reason for doing so. same reason as to why in the past they just slapped rocks on maps cause they think it will change something | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
 In only played vs it like twice in beta but because its so difficult to scout compared to any other roach allin I lost horribly. | ||
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tuho12345
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Scones
Wales99 Posts
On April 23 2013 10:28 RaiZ wrote: I just don't understand why everyone is saying it's almost mandatory to go mutas in ZvZ ? 1 spore could really fuck it up, and I'm not talking about 2 spores and a queen... Please can someone explain me why hydras / infestors are not a good way to go in ZvZ ? Why has it changed since WoL or anything ? Don't tell me that mutas' acceleration changed everything cauz clearly I didn't notice it... (And i'm playing mutas since bw...) Infestors' fungal may be harder to land it perfectly, but it's not like it's impossible to be able to do it... I feel like a lot of zergs have been lazy lately with the current ZvT and ZvP's changes that they don't want their ZvZ to be changed too. It's a combination of things. Firstly Mutas are faster, making them get away easier Secondly, Infestors shoot the projectile now and it will miss if the opponent is aware enough to retreat. Thirdly, you will need to land at least 5 fungals to kill the mutas. With the new ability they have to regenerate hp, they are fully healed really fast. Fourthly, mutas pop out before infestors and give you great map control. You can pick off all the overlords on your opponents side of the map, and they can't do anything except watch them die. Got Hydras? Don't worry, mutalisks are faster You mentioned about making spores, but 1 spore can only kill so many mutas. If it turns in to the big 30 mutas vs 30 muta situation, they can take down 2 spores easy | ||
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SeaSmoke
United States326 Posts
Spores are already insanely good vs. muta (5 shots kill iirc) because they already buffed dmg vs. bio in beta. It didn't solve issue so just keep buffing it? No one thinks oracle should be faster...even if they are, they are countered now with one spore/turret/cannon. Speed will not make them better vs it. Nor will speed help them survive in army compositions. Burrow buff? Who asked for this? The big problems right now are zerg AA (sorry but static d isn't going to help much)...and freaking hell bats/drops. I would propose hydra +1 range vs. air only (to help zvz and zvp)...? | ||
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BiG
Germany153 Posts
and i would love a different mappool, which is a bit more "balanced". on most of the maps besides akilon and daybreak its VERY VERY hard to ever take a 3rd as a protoss, while its ok for T and Z. thats why your options are rather limited as a P. | ||
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Cyanocyst
2222 Posts
On April 23 2013 09:42 TimENT wrote: lol damn blizz wut no t nerf? niiiice Personally id rather them buff things to create balance rather than nerf things. If each race had an equal amount of Op things it makes for a better watch. and allows more swings in momentum between players. Rather than just one player secures an advantage and compounds it till victory. That said this is a relatively small patch, and i have no problem with any Idea listed. Like how blizzard is being careful, to at least let things play out for a while before any significant changes. | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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