EPTWCS China champion Comm DQ'ed from WCS America - Page 26
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Noam
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iMOOrtal
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JustPassingBy
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On April 23 2013 02:44 Spektor wrote: I think blizzard can check that, but I don't understand how people can blame MLG, they followed their rules. Everyone just loves to hate, 4-5 hate threads. Well, if they follow their rules, then their rules must suck. Besides, their rules explicitely stated that players MAY be disqualified, so they could have leave him off with a slap on his hands but without disqualification and still follow their rules. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3813 Posts
On April 23 2013 02:49 zev318 wrote: btw lol @ comm's whole rant about having to stay up for the event. that's what happens when u play in a tournament half the world away. Yeah since China got shafted for not having a qualifier, despite being a pretty good country for SC2 they were encouraged to play on NA. TL;DR: Shut up if you don't know what you are talking about. | ||
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fleeze
Germany895 Posts
On April 23 2013 02:44 Spektor wrote: I think blizzard can check that, but I don't understand how people can blame MLG, they followed their rules. Everyone just loves to hate, 4-5 hate threads. what part of MAY do you not understand in the rules? MAY means it's up to the admin to decide... On April 23 2013 02:49 zev318 wrote: btw lol @ comm's whole rant about having to stay up for the event. that's what happens when u play in a tournament half the world away. it's the fucking chinese qualifier too. maybe educate yourself before posting crap helps? what you call a "rant" is him just describing his situation... | ||
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On April 23 2013 02:49 zev318 wrote: btw lol @ comm's whole rant about having to stay up for the event. that's what happens when u play in a tournament half the world away. Show some respect to pro who work hard everyday so you can have your 15 min of joy. | ||
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zhurai
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Mallidon
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On April 23 2013 02:56 Grovbolle wrote: Yeah since China got shafted for not having a qualifier, despite being a pretty good country for SC2 they were encouraged to play on NA. TL;DR: Shut up if you don't know what you are talking about. Also I think most the players aren't really upset about having to stay up, but rather that after each round they have to wait a few hours, then if their game was supposed to be aired they have to wait longer than that(Miya said on twitter a match of his being delayed 90 minutes since it was suppose to be on stream). As I read from the complaints, I feel they are more complaining about the disarray of the bracket and pretty much nothing being done to accomidate the players. My personal feeling of the subject is that MLG pretty much made the qualifiers all about them, fucking off players and viewers alike. I mean stopping brackets from being up-to-date is imo disgraceful and not mentioning if you are watching games live or replay is too. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On April 23 2013 02:49 zev318 wrote: btw lol @ comm's whole rant about having to stay up for the event. that's what happens when u play in a tournament half the world away. What other choice did he have? To get into the korean one he needs to get into code S and since their are no Chinese ones he decided to go for NA since EU is laggy from there. | ||
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Mallidon
Scotland557 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:02 Zarahtra wrote: Also I think most the players aren't really upset about having to stay up, but rather that after each round they have to wait a few hours, then if their game was supposed to be aired they have to wait longer than that(Miya said on twitter a match of his being delayed 90 minutes since it was suppose to be on stream). As I read from the complaints, I feel they are more complaining about the disarray of the bracket and pretty much nothing being done to accomidate the players. My personal feeling of the subject is that MLG pretty much made the qualifiers all about them, fucking off players and viewers alike. I mean stopping brackets from being up-to-date is imo disgraceful and not mentioning if you are watching games live or replay is too. Yeah making people wait for hours in-between their games because there's only ONE stream and they want it on it.... Pretty bad. MLG should have done the same as in EU, just let the community casters and various other people stream the games. I even watched some of the Russian casts because they had a game on I wanted to watch more. | ||
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FrogOfWar
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fleeze
Germany895 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:06 FrogOfWar wrote: Everybody seems upset about what they did to the Chinese players. So what did they do to the Chinese players, other than this one? Can anyone tell me? they were told they are checked in and ready to play by an admin. unfortunately he forgot to add them to the grid, so they couldn't play at all. unless with another account that made it into the tiny 512 player bracket. like comm who did play for fruitbasket. | ||
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ohampatu
United States1448 Posts
People who are saying Comm should be DQ'd? The casters knew from the get go, nobody called him anybody but COMM. The entirety of MLG staff knew, just appears a few amateur players who got matched against him didn't know. He played all the games himself. Shuttle did this on the EU qualifiers. He is not DQ'd. Crank broke the rules, he is not DQ'd. Demuslim broke the rules, he is not DQ'd. Sooo many people broke the rules. So I ask you this, do you still think only Comm should be DQ'd, and do you honestly think what he was doing was 'cheating'? Please explain. I also hope you have seen the chat log from the admin before he did this stating he was good to go. He only did this as a last resort because he was lied to multiple multiple times and there was precedent from the EU qualifiers that this was legit. Stop defending MLG, they fucked it up, and their rules are worded in a form that they 'may' DQ, so its up to them in the long run, its not a 'we must dq him' type of rule | ||
digmouse
China6331 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:06 FrogOfWar wrote: Everybody seems upset about what they did to the Chinese players. So what did they do to the Chinese players, other than this one? Can anyone tell me? Jim and XY from iG were told by MLG admins they are checked in and "good to go", it turns out that they didn't get their spot because checked in only means they are in the queue, which was not notified to them. | ||
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figq
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So - that's just not the issue at all! And not why he got DQ'd. He got DQ'd because when you sign up for an event you enter additional personal information, which lets them give you the money prizes, in case you win. And in his case he never registered his personal information. And they can't bend the rule for this case, because it would create a precedent and all kinds of people could start giving false information upon registering and later update it, once they are high up in brackets. Thus anyway, the DQ is not why we should be angry, we should be angry about the 512 player limit and failure to let all candidates participate in WCS (World Champion Series - emphasis on "world"). | ||
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PardonYou
United States1360 Posts
On April 23 2013 02:57 fleeze wrote: what part of MAY do you not understand in the rules? MAY means it's up to the admin to decide... Yeah, 4-5 hate threads help. Also, my point was stop blaming mlg because of a MAY. Decision was made, nothing can be done. Move on. If you want to blame anyone, blame Blizzard for not having all online quals for Korea, then he could've played there and on his time. It should go by continent, but Korea, for some reason is it's own. | ||
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ohampatu
United States1448 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:22 figq wrote: I still don't get why should it even matter if Comm was telling who he was. Any pro could decide to change his ID right before registering, it's not against the rules. And the organizers are not obligated to investigate every pro's ID history and inform everyone about it. So, theoretically, any pro could play in this under unknown ID, anyway. So - that's just not the issue at all! And not why he got DQ'd. He got DQ'd because when you sign up for an event you enter additional personal information, which lets them give you the money prizes, in case you win. And in his case he never registered his personal information. And they can't bend the rule for this case, because it would create a precedent and all kinds of people could start giving false information upon registering and later update it, once they are high up in brackets. Thus anyway, the DQ is not why we should be angry, we should be angry about the 512 player limit and failure to let all candidates participate in WCS (World Champion Series - emphasis on "world"). read my post right above yours at least 10 pro's have broken some kind of rule it appears, yet only comm was DQ'd and there was precedent, an amateur gave shuttle his spot because shuttle didn't make it in time in EU edit: at guy below me: no, their rules are not using that context of the word may, you have it backwards, the 'may be DQ'd' in MLG's rules is written in in way that it means 'could potentially happen' or 'the maximum punishment but not neccesarilly always done'. and i still can't help but say: THERE WAS PRECEDENT FROM EU QUALIFIERS | ||
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Pinski
United States126 Posts
On April 23 2013 02:57 fleeze wrote: what part of MAY do you not understand in the rules? MAY means it's up to the admin to decide... That's not the definition of the word being used in this context. If I say you may not do something, you are not allowed to do it, period. This is the form they are using. | ||
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Weirdkid
Singapore2431 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:32 Pinski wrote: That's not the definition of the word being used in this context. If I say you may not do something, you are not allowed to do it, period. This is the form they are using. Are you sure that's the only form of the word they used in their rules? | ||
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