EPTUser suspended for uploading Sniper Ridge - Page 11
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sharkeyanti
United States1273 Posts
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
On April 11 2013 07:20 Mordanis wrote: The suspension was because of the name having racial/ethnic/national meaning? Was there some nazi training campt or something called sniper ridge? There is a serie of maps in BW themed "Ridge": Sniper Ridge ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images/thumb/3/3c/Sniper_Ridge.jpg/400px-Sniper_Ridge.jpg) Heartbreak Ridge ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images/thumb/9/96/199_Heartbreak_Ridge.jpg/400px-199_Heartbreak_Ridge.jpg) Bloody Ridge ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images/thumb/3/39/Bloody_Ridge.jpg/400px-Bloody_Ridge.jpg) I think the "Sniper" part of Sniper Ridge comes from the fact that the ridges make it look like a sniper cross, not from Nazi references.... | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On April 11 2013 07:02 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Anyone and everyone who supports the Blizzard GM in his decision is directly contributing to the cultural and intellectual stagnation of humanity, with regards to a topic that most people have an extremely shallow understanding of to begin with. Having said that, I wouldn't want to be accused of "contributing to the cultural and intellectual stagnation of humanity", whatever that bloviated bullshit is supposed to mean. | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
(no, hes not a nazi, he picked the name to troll people) | ||
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The Stapler
United States326 Posts
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applepielon
United States78 Posts
On April 11 2013 07:02 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Anyone and everyone who supports the Blizzard GM in his decision is directly contributing to the cultural and intellectual stagnation of humanity, with regards to a topic that most people have an extremely shallow understanding of to begin with. This. It's absurd that a map used in proleague is banned. It's absurd that a map is banned for something it sort of resembles accidentally. It's absurd that a symbol which is used really commonly in the place where a huge percentage of Blizzard's playerbase lives is banned. It's ridiculous that someone who clearly uploaded with good intentions is banned instead of just the map being banned. | ||
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Penev
28495 Posts
Haha, like being in school hmm? Oh the irony. Nice to know you kept your sanity after all.  | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
Blizzard's response seems perfectly reasonable. There's no need for maps resembling swastika's (even if they're flipped around) and someone got an insignificant 7 day ban for it because blizzard doesn't have hours to sort out every single report (these are the same guys as the WoW/Diablo GM's). The SC2 version also looks much more like a swastika than the old BW one. | ||
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On April 11 2013 07:23 fabiano wrote: Hmm, you have a good point. The high ground mechanics of SC2 is total bullshit and would pretty much nullify any sort of interesting gameplay that could happen on Sniper Ridge. It was not for SC2. It was for his mod Starbow that has different highground mechanics. Also, its pretty obvious that that image brings pictures of nazis and WW2 and all that stuff. But at the same time its a fact that that image is NOT the nazi swastika and has a whole different meaning. That and the fact it was used in proleague for years is why I think the correct decision by Blizz should have been to remove the map and not ban the maker (with explanation why it was removed). But very amusing nonetheless. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 11 2013 07:20 Qwyn wrote: Sniper Ridge is not a Blizzard map, so how could you expect a modern community manager who has never watched BW to know that it exists? Even after being presented with evidence of the map's existence, they suspended the Kabel. That's going way fucking overboard. oh, i stand corrected. i thought the OP said it was a blizzard map, but its actually just a bw map. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On April 11 2013 07:31 The Stapler wrote: My problem with this isn't necessarily that a user got banned for having a swastika-like shape in a map, but the fact that they banned this guy with such swiftness, and yet they VERY rarely ban anyone for hacking I guess they dont want to take any risks because that symbol is banned in several countries and any game using it will be removed from all sales. Maybe they just dont want to risk it. All it takes is a parent seeing the minimap, reporting it and then its up to interpretation if the whole game will be banned in for example germany. | ||
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gaheris
Ireland12 Posts
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FreeTossCZComentary
Czech Republic143 Posts
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SgtCoDFish
United Kingdom1520 Posts
Given it's a remake of the original I'd say the ban is harsh and should be removed, but I wouldn't expect the guy who decided to ban to know what a BW map looked like and as such I agree with the ban in the first place given that they won't have known. | ||
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kYem
United Kingdom412 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On April 11 2013 07:49 SgtCoDFish wrote: If I showed that map to anyone who's never played StarCarft (any version), 100% guaranteed the first thing they'll notice will be how much it looks like a swastika. Given it's a remake of the original I'd say the ban is harsh and should be removed, but I wouldn't expect the guy who decided to ban to know what a BW map looked like and as such I agree with the ban in the first place given that they won't have known. there is nothing wrong with seeing that as a swastika, the problem is everyone is associating it with nazi and ignoring/overlooking manja or symbol of old indian/budhist symbol that existed for thousands of years before hitler. | ||
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
Even if you are lucky and hit a GM who watched professional BW and recognized the map they might still reasonably block it since it might offend a lot of ignorant users who stumble upon it and write angry e-mails at Blizzard. You would probably need someone higher up in Blizzard to make the decision to let a map through that contains prominent features that could be mistaken for Nazi symbolism. I'm sure that if KeSPA or MLG expressed a desire to have it available, then they could. | ||
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WigglingSquid
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DigitalDevil
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KanoCoke
Japan863 Posts
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