EPTUser suspended for uploading Sniper Ridge - Page 10
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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Nerski
United States1095 Posts
Did they clearly A) miss the meaning off the facing of that symbol, and B) hand out a rather heavy handed punishment for a map played on for years...you bet they did. I'd agree with the camp of educating people rather then being a bunch of ignorant baboons. Considering the facing of that symbol has so many different meanings in so many cultures. If it was a Nazi style swastika I get the ban, but it's not. At the most they should of removed the map and given a warning if they don't want anything that even resembles it and don't mind insulting a lot of Asian cultures. | ||
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Sup3rior
Sweden442 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On April 11 2013 06:52 jinorazi wrote: so instead of educating the people in regards to swastika, they made them ignorant of its actual usage that dates back thousands of years and implement a negative image rather than dissipating the hatred symbol as just another symbol, is over valued enough to discriminate against asian culture. great german law. I'm just gonna stop posting in this couple of threads now, but I have to add: Anyone and everyone who supports the Blizzard GM in his decision is directly contributing to the cultural and intellectual stagnation of humanity, with regards to a topic that most people have an extremely shallow understanding of to begin with. | ||
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Iberville
Canada207 Posts
On April 11 2013 07:02 Sup3rior wrote: Suprised at how many wannabe-nazis there are in this thread. It obviously looks like that symbol that is the symbol of millions of deaths and suffering in larger parts of the world. Can you really not survive with playing the hundreds of other bw-maps that exist and doesnt have theese kind of symbols in them., Wanting to play a BW Pro League map in SC2 does not a nazi make. It's unfortunate. But honestly with the high/low ground mechanics, the map is less interesting. | ||
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dicedicerevolution
United States245 Posts
1. It's not even the swastika the Nazis used (assuming they banned in on the grounds that "Nazi symbol = inappropriate, therefore ban), it is a Manji. 2. There's more than enough circumstantial evidence (PL map precedence, no clear modifications from original, no demonstrable malicious intent other than uploading the map) to be able to see that there was absolutely no harm intended here. I could understand if they forced you to post a disclaimer on the map information or blocked the map preview (both still wrong IMO, but comparatively "better"), but I firmly believe that the decision made here was clearly in the wrong. Start a petition, if enough people complain they can't ignore it. I for one would definitely sign one. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 11 2013 07:02 Sup3rior wrote: Suprised at how many wannabe-nazis there are in this thread. It obviously looks like that symbol that is the symbol of millions of deaths and suffering in larger parts of the world. Can you really not survive with playing the hundreds of other bw-maps that exist and doesnt have theese kind of symbols in them., no, actually it is not. it is amazing that such a huge event occurred and people still arent educated about the issue though. i am fine with the map being removed to prevent historically-illiterate people's delicate sensibilities, but banning the guy was completely unwarranted. not only was it a blizzard map to begin with, but it has also been played in professional matches. | ||
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VitiumHK
United States32 Posts
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
I'm sure there is a way to modify the map so that it still has the same basic layout but isn't so strikingly Nazi-ish. | ||
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crbox
Canada1181 Posts
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FreeTossCZComentary
Czech Republic143 Posts
On April 11 2013 07:06 fuzzylogic44 wrote: I must admit the similarity to the swastika really is distracting and conjures images of Nazism up. There should not be a suspention but I understand why they don't want this map in Battle.net. I'm sure there is a way to modify the map so that it still has the same basic layout but isn't so strikingly Nazi-ish. There is no reason. Whole "ban the crap out of them" logic may work on internet, but not in real life. We should not ban swastika, we should RIDICULE it. That is real way to fight Nazis. As long as we take them seriously, they will take themselves seriously as well. And that is exact oposite of what we want. | ||
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SChlafmann
France725 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
also bisu got owned on this map by bogus i think good times. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12057 Posts
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Bluepancho
France27 Posts
I mean I see it in the streets every other day | ||
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Qwyn
United States2781 Posts
On April 11 2013 07:06 dAPhREAk wrote: no, actually it is not. it is amazing that such a huge event occurred and people still arent educated about the issue though. i am fine with the map being removed to prevent historically-illiterate people's delicate sensibilities, but banning the guy was completely unwarranted. not only was it a blizzard map to begin with, but it has also been played in professional matches. Sniper Ridge is not a Blizzard map, so how could you expect a modern community manager who has never watched BW to know that it exists? Even after being presented with evidence of the map's existence, they suspended the Kabel. That's going way fucking overboard. | ||
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Mordanis
United States893 Posts
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
On April 11 2013 07:02 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Anyone and everyone who supports the Blizzard GM in his decision is directly contributing to the cultural and intellectual stagnation of humanity, with regards to a topic that most people have an extremely shallow understanding of to begin with.  | ||
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WhiteSatin
United States308 Posts
is all I have to say about it. The response of Blizzard is pretty stupid as usual unfortunately. Ban a map that has been used in proleague for years.. sigh Anyone and everyone who supports the Blizzard GM in his decision is directly contributing to the cultural and intellectual stagnation of humanity, with regards to a topic that most people have an extremely shallow understanding of to begin with. well said!! | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
On April 11 2013 07:04 Iberville wrote: Wanting to play a BW Pro League map in SC2 does not a nazi make. It's unfortunate. But honestly with the high/low ground mechanics, the map is less interesting. Hmm, you have a good point. The high ground mechanics of SC2 is total bullshit and would pretty much nullify any sort of interesting gameplay that could happen on Sniper Ridge. | ||
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