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WCS 2013 Announced - April 3rd - Page 107

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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 17:13:10
April 03 2013 17:12 GMT
#2121
At least with blizzard getting more evolved than ever in esports, it's safe to say that random patches like "let's try a queen with +2 range" won't happen ... I guess ?
Terran & Potato Salad.
dacimvrl
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State582 Posts
April 03 2013 17:13 GMT
#2122
On April 04 2013 02:12 edlover420 wrote:
so this is the blizzard's big announcement? what about Korean OSL tournament?


you didn't happen to read the announcement, did you?
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 17:14:34
April 03 2013 17:14 GMT
#2123
On April 04 2013 01:57 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 01:56 Kylo55 wrote:
On April 04 2013 01:54 Schelim wrote:
i just realized since it's top 5 there's gonna have to be some sort of tiebreaker for 5th place in GSL. obviously top 4 will be 4 of the invited players, but then you have 4 bros that finished 5th-8th. i wonder how that's gonna work?

probably a Code S group format thing or something.


Its not that top 5 of one GSL gets spots. They get points through the whole season, and then top 5 point places get spots.

the whole season is just that... one season. the top 5 point places will be the top 5... places


Not really. Like if somebody ends up in 5-8 place in GSL and also wins Dreamhack, he can have more points (assuming Dreamhack awards points) then somebody in Top3 GSL. imo.
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 03 2013 17:15 GMT
#2124
On April 04 2013 02:14 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 01:57 opterown wrote:
On April 04 2013 01:56 Kylo55 wrote:
On April 04 2013 01:54 Schelim wrote:
i just realized since it's top 5 there's gonna have to be some sort of tiebreaker for 5th place in GSL. obviously top 4 will be 4 of the invited players, but then you have 4 bros that finished 5th-8th. i wonder how that's gonna work?

probably a Code S group format thing or something.


Its not that top 5 of one GSL gets spots. They get points through the whole season, and then top 5 point places get spots.

the whole season is just that... one season. the top 5 point places will be the top 5... places


Not really. Like if somebody ends up in 5-8 place in GSL and also wins Dreamhack, he can have more points (assuming Dreamhack awards points) then somebody in Top3 GSL. imo.

no. you can only participate in one region, which means you only get points from one region.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 17:16:14
April 03 2013 17:15 GMT
#2125
On April 04 2013 02:14 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 01:57 opterown wrote:
On April 04 2013 01:56 Kylo55 wrote:
On April 04 2013 01:54 Schelim wrote:
i just realized since it's top 5 there's gonna have to be some sort of tiebreaker for 5th place in GSL. obviously top 4 will be 4 of the invited players, but then you have 4 bros that finished 5th-8th. i wonder how that's gonna work?

probably a Code S group format thing or something.


Its not that top 5 of one GSL gets spots. They get points through the whole season, and then top 5 point places get spots.

the whole season is just that... one season. the top 5 point places will be the top 5... places


Not really. Like if somebody ends up in 5-8 place in GSL and also wins Dreamhack, he can have more points (assuming Dreamhack awards points) then somebody in Top3 GSL. imo.

true enough, but i sort of expect peripheral tournaments to be worth significantly less than the major WCS leagues

On April 04 2013 02:15 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 02:14 Ammanas wrote:
On April 04 2013 01:57 opterown wrote:
On April 04 2013 01:56 Kylo55 wrote:
On April 04 2013 01:54 Schelim wrote:
i just realized since it's top 5 there's gonna have to be some sort of tiebreaker for 5th place in GSL. obviously top 4 will be 4 of the invited players, but then you have 4 bros that finished 5th-8th. i wonder how that's gonna work?

probably a Code S group format thing or something.


Its not that top 5 of one GSL gets spots. They get points through the whole season, and then top 5 point places get spots.

the whole season is just that... one season. the top 5 point places will be the top 5... places


Not really. Like if somebody ends up in 5-8 place in GSL and also wins Dreamhack, he can have more points (assuming Dreamhack awards points) then somebody in Top3 GSL. imo.

no. you can only participate in one region, which means you only get points from one region.

dreamhack is not a WCS league though so players can play in WCSKR and dreamhack easily enough. same with the weekend MLGs etc
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 03 2013 17:17 GMT
#2126
On April 04 2013 02:15 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 02:14 Ammanas wrote:
On April 04 2013 01:57 opterown wrote:
On April 04 2013 01:56 Kylo55 wrote:
On April 04 2013 01:54 Schelim wrote:
i just realized since it's top 5 there's gonna have to be some sort of tiebreaker for 5th place in GSL. obviously top 4 will be 4 of the invited players, but then you have 4 bros that finished 5th-8th. i wonder how that's gonna work?

probably a Code S group format thing or something.


Its not that top 5 of one GSL gets spots. They get points through the whole season, and then top 5 point places get spots.

the whole season is just that... one season. the top 5 point places will be the top 5... places


Not really. Like if somebody ends up in 5-8 place in GSL and also wins Dreamhack, he can have more points (assuming Dreamhack awards points) then somebody in Top3 GSL. imo.

no. you can only participate in one region, which means you only get points from one region.


If only Europeans get extra points from Dreamhack, that would be silly.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 03 2013 17:22 GMT
#2127
oh yeah, forgot about that. i wonder if players will get those points even if they're not playing in the region the event is at, and also how many points those actually end up giving. i guess we'll have to wait for that info to comeo ut.
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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
April 03 2013 17:23 GMT
#2128
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Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
April 03 2013 17:25 GMT
#2129
I was kinda hoping for an announcement that would make the foreign teams get off their lazy asses and start buying affordable practice houses and start running them properly and develop new talent like the ESF teams did with the little money they had.
I honestly think WCS Korea should get a much bigger prize pool because winning that actually means something. Obviously that wont happen.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
April 03 2013 17:25 GMT
#2130
On April 04 2013 02:23 monkybone wrote:
hmm what will it cost to have access to all vods?


I would imagine both OGN and GOM would keep their respective price for VODs as they need to get some benefit out of this deal.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 03 2013 17:25 GMT
#2131
On April 04 2013 02:23 monkybone wrote:
hmm what will it cost to have access to all vods?

we will known soonTM
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purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 17:29:27
April 03 2013 17:29 GMT
#2132
Now, Blizzard just needs to fix their game. Only then can SC2 take over the world.
T P Z sagi
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 17:30:51
April 03 2013 17:30 GMT
#2133
On April 04 2013 02:25 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 02:23 monkybone wrote:
hmm what will it cost to have access to all vods?


I would imagine both OGN and GOM would keep their respective price for VODs as they need to get some benefit out of this deal.


OGN has the VoDs for their channel (so basically LoL The Champions + WCS) set to 6 USD per month. Of course you will have their casters = Doa and Montecristo casting, not Tastosis/Woldor.

I guess we don't know about GOM, but I am personally paying the 20 USD/month for full access to everything SC2 GOM and I guess I will keep doing that (and I will probably also buy the OGN for LoL tbh :D)
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TheRealFluid
Profile Joined June 2011
United States501 Posts
April 03 2013 17:39 GMT
#2134
On April 04 2013 02:25 Bowzar wrote:
I was kinda hoping for an announcement that would make the foreign teams get off their lazy asses and start buying affordable practice houses and start running them properly and develop new talent like the ESF teams did with the little money they had.
I honestly think WCS Korea should get a much bigger prize pool because winning that actually means something. Obviously that wont happen.

Creating team houses are a HUGE investment. You need sufficient sponsors and dedicated team members, and they HAVE to produce results in order for the investment to pay back itself. Foreign teams also have their money elsewhere, it's not like they only partake in starcraft 2 ventures. They typically have LoL, Dota, CS, etc. teams.
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Gesperrt
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany417 Posts
April 03 2013 17:42 GMT
#2135
Noice.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
April 03 2013 17:43 GMT
#2136
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Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
April 03 2013 17:45 GMT
#2137
On April 04 2013 01:47 Kylo55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 01:42 Wingblade wrote:
On April 04 2013 01:36 jeri wrote:
only 5 spots from wcs korea? thats gonna be probably the hardest way ever..


For season finals yes. It's entirely possible the ultimate Grand Finals at the end will be 16 Koreans


Well honestly if playing in GSL excludes you from WCS EU/NA, then i belive that there wont be so many koreans at the Grand Finals. I cant imagine any of MVP, MC, Life, Flash, DRG, Leenock, Parting, Rain etc. to NOT play in GSL and only 5 of those will be able to play in WCS GF. So it will be either only 5/6 koreans (host country maybe) or it will be 5 top koreans and 10 koreans who nobody ever heard about that was suddenly better that top EU/NA players.
This rules may actually make LESS koreans in the main event.


No no no... The Grand Finals is dependent solely on points which is controlled not only by WCS but potentially from points awarded at non-WCS events.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
April 03 2013 18:00 GMT
#2138
On April 04 2013 02:39 TheRealFluid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 02:25 Bowzar wrote:
I was kinda hoping for an announcement that would make the foreign teams get off their lazy asses and start buying affordable practice houses and start running them properly and develop new talent like the ESF teams did with the little money they had.
I honestly think WCS Korea should get a much bigger prize pool because winning that actually means something. Obviously that wont happen.

Creating team houses are a HUGE investment. You need sufficient sponsors and dedicated team members, and they HAVE to produce results in order for the investment to pay back itself. Foreign teams also have their money elsewhere, it's not like they only partake in starcraft 2 ventures. They typically have LoL, Dota, CS, etc. teams.


Of course its a huge investment but its also the reason why Koreans shit on every other region. ESF teams rents apartments in Seoul (which probably cost waaaay more than buying houses in the US). Dont forget that most ESF teams had very small sponsorships in the beginning of SC2. They sacrificed a lot (salary, travel and probably even basic stuff like food) but they persevered and now they are reaping the benefits.
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
April 03 2013 18:06 GMT
#2139
On April 04 2013 02:25 Bowzar wrote:
I was kinda hoping for an announcement that would make the foreign teams get off their lazy asses and start buying affordable practice houses and start running them properly and develop new talent like the ESF teams did with the little money they had.
I honestly think WCS Korea should get a much bigger prize pool because winning that actually means something. Obviously that wont happen.


Uh, this was that announcement. Foreign teams placing high in tournaments means more sponsor money. Foreign teams placing high in tournaments means more tournament winnings. Given the prestige and amount of money on the line at WCS, foreign teams should see a large windfall from this, which should allow them to become more competitive.
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zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
April 03 2013 18:16 GMT
#2140
After sleeping on it, the only thing I dislike about this announcement is that GSL and OSL are the korean qualifiers. These are top events and should not be exclusive to a certain region. The korean qualifiers should just be another tournament on top of them, IMO.

The last WCS was sort of like the WSOP main event. Huge prize pool but filled with low talent and nobody really thinks the first place finisher is the best in the world. To potentially undermine the GSL and OSL in order to make the WCS even bigger.. I feel it is a huge mistake.
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