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shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 01:38:13
April 01 2013 17:33 GMT
#1
Hot Virtual Keyboard is a program that displays an on-screen keyboard which highlights which keys you are pressing. This makes for some interesting activity to watch during intense matches of StarCraft 2, as keys are lighting up all over the place. I thought it would be cool to see how this would look in a player stream, and after customizing the keyboard a bit, I ended up with a pretty pleasing result.

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Video Demo


I'll try to re-record a higher quality demo after the April Fools Warhounds disappear

Link to download: http://hot-virtual-keyboard.com/

You'll either need 2 monitors, or enough space on your current monitor to capture the program and overlay it on your stream. My current set up is one monitor (23" 1920 x 1080) with OBS, using software capture for SC2 in windowed mode and Hot Virtual Keyboard.

Here's how I setup my stream on one monitor:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I've been told it should work after the 30 day evaluation period.



Customizing the look
There's a lot of customization that you can do with the program, and I'm excited to see what people create. You can technically skin the entire thing from scratch, or simply change the colors of the keys and background image.

My current keyboard style:
Options > Theme
Style -> Dark
Edit 'Selected' keys to be a bright green (Hue: 57, Sat: 203, Lum: 155, Red: 176: Green: 241, Blue: 88)
Background: HotS Evolution Chamber Screenshot

Font: 12 Trade Gothic LTStd Cn
Characters Font: 16 Trade Gothic LTStd CN


Looking forward to see what the community does with this, I think it has a lot of potential.

Set up with one monitor
For people looking to software capture the program directly so you can stream on one monitor (without having to capture screen area on the second monitor) - go to Options > Themes and check Native Style of Windows. This will make the virtual keyboard show up in the software capture options as "On Screen Keyboard"

Huge thanks to KrazyTrumpet (Twitter) for the solution:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=405835&currentpage=6#104

Special thanks to Flameling (stream) for pointing me in the direction of the program, answering my questions, and having a VoD with a similar idea to draw from. Also thanks to Harem and Suppy for showing me his VoD.
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
April 01 2013 17:43 GMT
#2
pretty cool idea, kudos!
But I'm not sure how helpful it is to the audience, seems a little too much distractions for them
TritaN
Profile Joined December 2010
United States406 Posts
April 01 2013 17:47 GMT
#3
That looks really cool. Hopefully some of the top streamers will try this out.

(I'm looking at you DeMusliM, you superhuman bastard. I want to see your keyboard in action )
byrondover
Profile Joined January 2011
United States40 Posts
April 01 2013 17:48 GMT
#4
This is incredible! I would love to see more pro players use this when streaming; I'd even prefer it over keyboard cameras.

Nice writeup!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
April 01 2013 17:49 GMT
#5
On April 02 2013 02:43 tuho12345 wrote:
pretty cool idea, kudos!
But I'm not sure how helpful it is to the audience, seems a little too much distractions for them

I'd appreciate seeing this in streams
Refer to my post.
Renent
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada302 Posts
April 01 2013 17:50 GMT
#6
This is a super cool idea! I am really interested in some of the top level players using it!!
Woof
CableSCES
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States367 Posts
April 01 2013 17:55 GMT
#7
I would love to see this on the top player streams. It could be a scene that they switch on for some games, show other stuff for other games (in case they're worried about advert space). Really really cool idea and suggestion shindigs
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EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
April 01 2013 18:01 GMT
#8
I would love to do this, but I only have 1 monitor.. So I don't think I can do it? ;;
[Daze]
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany20 Posts
April 01 2013 18:01 GMT
#9
That's a great idea. Handcam/Controllercam/VirtualController is already quite popular in the speedrunning community. I wondered why nobody did this for SC2. I'd really like to see some progamers pick this up and show their amazing keyboard speed.
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 18:14:44
April 01 2013 18:09 GMT
#10
On April 02 2013 03:01 EGLzGaMeR wrote:
I would love to do this, but I only have 1 monitor.. So I don't think I can do it? ;;


I can't even get it to be picked up by OBS so I can't even record it as it seems to be a layered window...

I'm working on it but no idea @_@;;

When I enable capture of layered windows it makes my cursor blink a ton soooo think im going to pass on this for my own sanity T__T
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shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 18:22:20
April 01 2013 18:20 GMT
#11
On April 02 2013 03:01 EGLzGaMeR wrote:
I would love to do this, but I only have 1 monitor.. So I don't think I can do it? ;;


I'll take a screencap of my setup. I'm on one monitor too, a 23" monitor at 1920 x 1080. I played SC2 in Windowed Mode so I open up some more space at the top of my monitor where I have Hot Virtual Keyboard. PM me if you'd like more assistance.

I use Software Capture in OBS to specifically capture SC2 and HVK, I don't capture the portion of the screen.

With 2 monitors, I think its easier to keep one monitor Fullscreen Windowed and have HVK on the other monitor.
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
April 01 2013 20:06 GMT
#12
Yay you found one :D
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Xzilend
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada29 Posts
April 01 2013 20:15 GMT
#13
This is an awesome idea! Have been thinking about optimal ways of capturing keyboard interactions to see what keys I could optimize, and this would be pretty useful!

Thanks for putting this together will definitely give it a try ^_^
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shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
April 01 2013 20:20 GMT
#14
I actually think this has also has potential for coaching and learning SC2. Watching my VoD over again, I can already see parts of my gameplay that I can improve. Its better then having a camera over your hands IMO because you can see the exact buttons you're pressing.
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
Buddhism101
Profile Joined April 2011
United States59 Posts
April 02 2013 00:08 GMT
#15
Be super careful with entering your passwords on stream with this. There's an option to not show buttons when you're entering passwords, but it doesn't seem to work with Starcraft to this point for me.
Tminus____
Profile Joined September 2011
249 Posts
April 02 2013 00:18 GMT
#16
Here is another one http://www.grumpybread.com/download/gop-gop-goop-goop/ should one be around to capture apm that would also be very nice.
cmon gimme a break im to old for this shit
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
April 02 2013 00:27 GMT
#17
It sounded pretty cool, but in-game it's fairly meh. Just like watching actual hands it's not really that interesting in practice unless its at an extreme apm. Then again, their face isn't really that interesting to see 99% of the time either.
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
April 02 2013 00:28 GMT
#18
I think this is considerably more interesting than watching a streamers fingers moving around the keyboard. Easier for me to see what's being pressed and seemingly less affected by fps issues than a webcam is
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JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
April 02 2013 00:33 GMT
#19
Got it working - pretty nice feature. Took a little effort to figure the settings to get it looking the way I want it to, but otherwise it's nothing too difficult.
Yargh
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 00:46:31
April 02 2013 00:34 GMT
#20
On April 02 2013 09:18 Tminus____ wrote:
Here is another one http://www.grumpybread.com/download/gop-gop-goop-goop/ should one be around to capture apm that would also be very nice.

doesnt work

Anyone got it working with OBS?
IRL_Sinister
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Ireland621 Posts
April 02 2013 00:47 GMT
#21
Cool idea.
Attsy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States30 Posts
April 02 2013 00:51 GMT
#22
I would cut off the numpad/direction key area so it doesn't take as much space.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 02 2013 00:53 GMT
#23
I want to see how this looks when someone like Losira plays.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
April 02 2013 00:55 GMT
#24
On April 02 2013 09:51 Attsy wrote:
I would cut off the numpad/direction key area so it doesn't take as much space.


I did that in my latest stream, it works much better.

Would love to see a top tier progamer do this.

Here's how I set up my stream on one monitor. I software capture both programs. However in the latest stream I did, I had to capture the area instead of directly capturing the virtual keyboard because it wasn't showing up as an option to capture.

[image loading]
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
April 02 2013 00:57 GMT
#25
You can select the keyboard (minisomething) that doesn't have the numpad.
Yargh
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 02 2013 01:05 GMT
#26
I don't know about Starcraft, but I would love the shit out of this kind of technology for arcade stick on fighting games.

Starcraft isn't very execution heavy, it's more about how much you can do at the same time and your decision making combined.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
April 02 2013 01:26 GMT
#27
Wow, this is a great idea! I hope to see streamers pick this up.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
April 02 2013 01:28 GMT
#28
I wish this wouldn't require the 2nd monitor somehow (maybe as a fake camera or something) which would work better, as I don't have a 2nd monitor...
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
April 02 2013 01:30 GMT
#29
On April 02 2013 10:05 Noocta wrote:
I don't know about Starcraft, but I would love the shit out of this kind of technology for arcade stick on fighting games.

Starcraft isn't very execution heavy, it's more about how much you can do at the same time and your decision making combined.


Well, I beg to differ. Alot of people like to watch keyboard cameras on SC2 Streams. This IMO is better. I would especailly enjoy this while watching high APM players.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 01:38:25
April 02 2013 01:35 GMT
#30
On April 02 2013 10:30 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 10:05 Noocta wrote:
I don't know about Starcraft, but I would love the shit out of this kind of technology for arcade stick on fighting games.

Starcraft isn't very execution heavy, it's more about how much you can do at the same time and your decision making combined.


Well, I beg to differ. Alot of people like to watch keyboard cameras on SC2 Streams. This IMO is better. I would especailly enjoy this while watching high APM players.


Having a look of the hand on the keybaord maybe, but watching what touchs are being pressed ?
I don't know.. you"re gonna see A and 1 2 3 4 being pressed a lot and it doesn't really teach you anything you didn't know.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 02 2013 01:37 GMT
#31
Well it's certainly more informative than a webcam pointing at your keyboard, which is like the stupidest idea in the history of mankind.
joopajoo
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland67 Posts
April 02 2013 01:56 GMT
#32
Stupid question but how do you close the program? It just pushes the buy screen when i try to close it, killing it in task manager resulted in the same...
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
April 02 2013 02:02 GMT
#33
On April 02 2013 09:55 shindigs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 09:51 Attsy wrote:
I would cut off the numpad/direction key area so it doesn't take as much space.


I did that in my latest stream, it works much better.

Would love to see a top tier progamer do this.

Here's how I set up my stream on one monitor. I software capture both programs. However in the latest stream I did, I had to capture the area instead of directly capturing the virtual keyboard because it wasn't showing up as an option to capture.

[image loading]


Does your cursor not blink a ton when you allow it to capture layered windows? O.o I'm not sure if I did something wrong when I had it set up or not...

If anyone could just make a guide for how to do it with OBS I'd more than likely stream with it every time but the cursor blinking was too much for me.
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Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
April 02 2013 02:09 GMT
#34
Made me think of Cress showing his Xmapper for the xbox 360 controller.
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
April 02 2013 02:13 GMT
#35
I'd genuinely would enjoy it if pro's use this when they stream. Its another way for me to oogle and nerd out by watching them.
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DoubleIcaras
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom8 Posts
April 02 2013 02:16 GMT
#36
This is pretty damn cool; i'd love to see Revival and Stephano use this.
http://genesisgaming.info
MNdakota
Profile Joined March 2012
United States512 Posts
April 02 2013 02:59 GMT
#37
I've been streaming some games with two monitors. It's pretty cool I think. You can check it out here: http://www.twitch.tv/mndakota/new

Feel free to stick around and maybe watch some ladder games, and random Risk Legacy games.
You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call "failure" is not the falling down, but the staying down.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 02 2013 03:01 GMT
#38
Gonna definitely try this Shindigs :D
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
April 02 2013 03:26 GMT
#39
On April 02 2013 10:35 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 10:30 GinDo wrote:
On April 02 2013 10:05 Noocta wrote:
I don't know about Starcraft, but I would love the shit out of this kind of technology for arcade stick on fighting games.

Starcraft isn't very execution heavy, it's more about how much you can do at the same time and your decision making combined.


Well, I beg to differ. Alot of people like to watch keyboard cameras on SC2 Streams. This IMO is better. I would especailly enjoy this while watching high APM players.


Having a look of the hand on the keybaord maybe, but watching what touchs are being pressed ?
I don't know.. you"re gonna see A and 1 2 3 4 being pressed a lot and it doesn't really teach you anything you didn't know.


Well alot of people like Keyboard cams, and you don't learn anything there either. If anything you get a better view of how fast the player is going and actually pressing with this view.
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MNdakota
Profile Joined March 2012
United States512 Posts
April 02 2013 04:07 GMT
#40
Here's a VOD of it being used: http://www.twitch.tv/mndakota/c/2102051
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eneyeseekay
Profile Joined March 2013
239 Posts
April 02 2013 05:19 GMT
#41
Easily one of the coolest things I've seen in a while... Very nice!
Arrecoolast
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden2 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 08:00:51
April 02 2013 08:00 GMT
#42
It's a pretty cool thing but I ran into an issue where it would stop highlighting keys if I alt tabbed out of SC2. Once I did that, it would only work outside of SC2. :/
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
April 02 2013 08:14 GMT
#43
Right side if the keyboard is barely used even not used at all. It might be a good idea to give option on which part of the keyboard the user would like to show on.
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Scheme
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom210 Posts
April 02 2013 13:42 GMT
#44
I wonder whether it would be possible to code a similar application which can be picked up by "Game Source" on Xsplit or dxtory. This way you might be able to get rid of the window mode setup, etc...
TrickNachos
Profile Joined December 2012
United States23 Posts
April 02 2013 14:58 GMT
#45
What I want to see is pros using eye tracking software so we can see what they're looking at (resources, minimap, micro, etc.) xD.
Scheme
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom210 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 15:55:56
April 02 2013 15:54 GMT
#46
I tested what I mentioned: using http://www.grumpybread.com/download/gop-gop-goop-goop/ and xsplit actually sees it with gamesource.

I recorded it here: http://www.twitch.tv/scheme666/b/385660180

so you don't need to use the window mode or 2 monitor if you have the license for xsplit with the only downside is that when I spam the fps starts dropping quite a bit as demonstrated in the last 10 seconds or so of the video. Not sure how to fix this or if its my cpu(x6 1055t) which is not powerful enough.

Do you see this sort of fps drop when you spam with your current setup?
mRandy
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden146 Posts
April 02 2013 15:56 GMT
#47
Looks awesome, pros need to use this asap on streams!
http://sv.twitch.tv/ulfkennethz
unsaintly
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany687 Posts
April 02 2013 16:07 GMT
#48
After seeing Siglemic (Super Mario 64 speedrunner) using the virtual inputs for his N64 controller I though this would be a sick addition to SC2 streams and here we are! I hope this becomes a thing and a lot of people start to use it
Hansol
Profile Joined December 2010
Iceland29 Posts
April 02 2013 16:11 GMT
#49
Cant get it to pick up on OBS, maybe old version not sure, have to check into that.
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
April 02 2013 16:26 GMT
#50
If i'm playing sc2 fullscreen windowed, then the keyboard will show up in game. I got it working with OBS no problem, i just wanna play the game and stream without having to play it fullscreen
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Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
April 02 2013 16:29 GMT
#51
Really, really awesome. cant wait for the first Terran pro to use this on stream.
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JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
April 02 2013 16:40 GMT
#52
On April 02 2013 17:14 Laserist wrote:
Right side if the keyboard is barely used even not used at all. It might be a good idea to give option on which part of the keyboard the user would like to show on.


You can change the keyboard type. I'm using the skin without the numpad, mini something.
Yargh
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
April 02 2013 16:50 GMT
#53
I thought this was someone playing with the on screen keyboard from the title lol...

I think that this is a really amazing idea for streams and even moreso for tournaments. Imagine being able to see someone's actual inputs into the keyboard when they have like 500 apm, it would be so awesome.
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
April 02 2013 18:23 GMT
#54
how do I add this to OBS?
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-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 20:08:26
April 02 2013 18:37 GMT
#55
On April 03 2013 03:23 mouzIllusion wrote:
how do I add this to OBS?

i got it to work if u capture it with screen region on other monitor. it doesnt pick up the exe tho ill stream with mine in a bit so people can see

streaming with it now if you want to come see
www.twitch.tv/kyo7763
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MNdakota
Profile Joined March 2012
United States512 Posts
April 02 2013 19:57 GMT
#56
I'll be streaming today and I'll be using this setup again.

www.twitch.tv/mndakota

Stream starts in about one hour.
You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call "failure" is not the falling down, but the staying down.
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
April 02 2013 21:18 GMT
#57
On April 03 2013 03:37 -Kyo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 03:23 mouzIllusion wrote:
how do I add this to OBS?

i got it to work if u capture it with screen region on other monitor. it doesnt pick up the exe tho ill stream with mine in a bit so people can see

streaming with it now if you want to come see
www.twitch.tv/kyo7763


yeah for some reason it picked up the exe for me the first time, but now I have to capture it in a screen region
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Flameling
Profile Joined July 2010
United States413 Posts
April 02 2013 23:21 GMT
#58
Hey guys, here's another vod of me streaming with virtual keyboard.
http://www.twitch.tv/flameling/b/385754118
Hot Virtual Keyboard still works after the trial ends, but for some reason, it closes out after like 20-45 minutes for me, so I have to reopen it. Not sure if it's just me, but it's a little bit of a hassle to deal with.
johnbo
Profile Joined December 2012
United Kingdom41 Posts
April 02 2013 23:38 GMT
#59
I've managed to get the virtual keyboard to be hidden on a single moniter while you play, and still show up on stream
Its not an exact science, but just set it up (im using OBS) to where you want it over your sc2 screen and whatever, and then just play around with alt tab until its no longer actually in your sc2 window (but hopefully still will show on stream)
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
April 03 2013 18:23 GMT
#60
I've started doing it and the stream is loving it thanks a lot for this post shindings !
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zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 19:06:45
April 03 2013 19:00 GMT
#61
On April 03 2013 08:21 Flameling wrote:
Hey guys, here's another vod of me streaming with virtual keyboard.
http://www.twitch.tv/flameling/b/385754118
Hot Virtual Keyboard still works after the trial ends, but for some reason, it closes out after like 20-45 minutes for me, so I have to reopen it. Not sure if it's just me, but it's a little bit of a hassle to deal with.

(for the record, Flameling used Mieru Keyboard in the past, that I used too, I just don't really like using the 2nd monitor often so I stopped using it... I also thought mieru keyboard is too big ~.~)

well I'd use this but the the problem is I don't have money for the paid version and don't want to restart it every 20 minutes or something...

(also when you use both of these, probably turn off the scene while logging in so people can't copy your password)
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Marksman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Malaysia523 Posts
April 03 2013 23:37 GMT
#62
I just tried the Goop Goop keyboard type and it lags horribly for me.

Will it be the same if I tried to use the original Hot Virtual Keyboard? I will give it a test sometime later but a heads up would be nice.
I live by the LoL
FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 23:35:45
April 04 2013 23:35 GMT
#63
This may be a stupid question, but is there any way i can hide it under a program alt tabbed without it appearing black on my stream? i use obs btw
http://justin.tv/flyingtoilet
PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
April 04 2013 23:49 GMT
#64
I've seen this somewhere before :O great idea tho
http://twitter.com/PiQLiQ
Zenon
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom66 Posts
April 04 2013 23:53 GMT
#65
desRow was experimenting with this yesterday and it was great. The majority of his viewers enjoyed it.

Adds that extra "special something" to a stream I think.

Would love to see someone like Losira/KangHo streaming with this feature! :o
@focus_Zenon
Minigun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
619 Posts
April 05 2013 07:12 GMT
#66
any idea how to make this work with OBS, other than screen capture? screen capture is a bit harder on the computer
“Quiet people have the loudest minds.” ― Stephen Hawking
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
April 05 2013 07:20 GMT
#67
That is kind of neat. I could see that being something that is not on-screen all the time, but is like something they pop up from time to time on a broadcast to show people what is happening. I dig it.
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xxjcdentonxx
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada163 Posts
April 05 2013 07:43 GMT
#68
Professional SC2 players using this on their streams would be adding a big chunk of learning content to it. I get very frustrated when I can't see either the command card or a keyboard cam.

The same thing could be accomplished if SC2 had an onscreen key-input monitor. Doesn't SFIV have that?
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MNdakota
Profile Joined March 2012
United States512 Posts
April 05 2013 15:24 GMT
#69
On April 05 2013 16:12 ROOTMinigun wrote:
any idea how to make this work with OBS, other than screen capture? screen capture is a bit harder on the computer


I got mine working with a second monitor. Then captured the screen region where the keyboard is.
You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call "failure" is not the falling down, but the staying down.
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
April 05 2013 20:20 GMT
#70
On April 05 2013 16:12 ROOTMinigun wrote:
any idea how to make this work with OBS, other than screen capture? screen capture is a bit harder on the computer

Pretty much this. I can't stream even at 45 FPS, running game capture on SC2 + screen capture on monitor #2. It's a really cool idea for stream viewers but it's really intensive on the computer, if only there was a lower resource intensive option for bad computers :/.
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Minigun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
619 Posts
April 07 2013 02:29 GMT
#71
On April 06 2013 05:20 mouzIllusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 16:12 ROOTMinigun wrote:
any idea how to make this work with OBS, other than screen capture? screen capture is a bit harder on the computer

Pretty much this. I can't stream even at 45 FPS, running game capture on SC2 + screen capture on monitor #2. It's a really cool idea for stream viewers but it's really intensive on the computer, if only there was a lower resource intensive option for bad computers :/.


yeah...I've looked for a way around it, can't seem to find one :/
“Quiet people have the loudest minds.” ― Stephen Hawking
Filter
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada620 Posts
April 07 2013 03:48 GMT
#72
I'll be testing it later tonight probably on OBS, using window capture not screen capture. I'll post with any results/feedback I do get, but I ran some tests on it and it seemed to have no impact on the 720p45fps stream I was running before.
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aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
April 07 2013 04:00 GMT
#73
On April 02 2013 02:47 TritaN wrote:
That looks really cool. Hopefully some of the top streamers will try this out.

(I'm looking at you DeMusliM, you superhuman bastard. I want to see your keyboard in action )


I'd probably look elsewhere if I were you, he's been washed up for so long that he is hardly a super nerd let alone superhero.
FlashDave.999 aka Star
tbirdd
Profile Joined May 2012
United States11 Posts
April 08 2013 01:14 GMT
#74
YuMe (formerly OpTiKDream), GM Terran, is streaming right now; with the virtual keyboard:
http://www.twitch.tv/optikdream
Myth Acid
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1 Post
April 09 2013 03:52 GMT
#75
this is awesome!
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shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
April 09 2013 07:15 GMT
#76
Has anyone figured out how to get OBS to software capture the program itself rather than screen capture? It worked for the me the first time but doesn't recognize it anymore...it would help some progamers too. I'll edit the solution into the thread if someone posts it.
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
Baptista
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Poland141 Posts
April 09 2013 07:55 GMT
#77
i would really love to see this replace shity keyboard web cams some streamers use. their fps is too low to see the clicks. Honestly Razer should release their own software to make it more popular.
guruPanda
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany32 Posts
April 09 2013 09:46 GMT
#78
I'm a little concerned about Passwords being seen on stream...
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
April 09 2013 09:51 GMT
#79
On April 09 2013 18:46 guruPanda wrote:
I'm a little concerned about Passwords being seen on stream...

Would be a matter of using scene-switcher correctly.
But you are totatlly right; using a visual keyboard while typing in your password and showing that to your viewers would be pretty bad.
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Marksman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Malaysia523 Posts
April 09 2013 09:52 GMT
#80
On April 09 2013 18:46 guruPanda wrote:
I'm a little concerned about Passwords being seen on stream...


The best solution would be to login before streaming first. Alternatively, you can disable several keys in the system (at least for the goop goop goop) but I would like the former.

Im gonna test again and see what I can do about the lag ~~

I live by the LoL
mRandy
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden146 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 09:58:04
April 09 2013 09:57 GMT
#81
This looks really awesome! But anyone know how to let the big streamers know about this? Im thinking Grubby, Catz etc or do they already know and just dont want it.
http://sv.twitch.tv/ulfkennethz
Filter
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada620 Posts
April 09 2013 10:04 GMT
#82
I do get some lag on it, we'll see how my system can handle it post overclock though.

Somebody posted a link from my stream on reddit to give an idea of what it looks like, it's on the front page at least so hopefully some of the bigger guys will see it.
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bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
April 09 2013 10:05 GMT
#83
On April 09 2013 18:57 mRandy wrote:
This looks really awesome! But anyone know how to let the big streamers know about this? Im thinking Grubby, Catz etc or do they already know and just dont want it.

Twitter the link at them with a brief description. @FollowGrubby @ROOTCatZ
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
roym899
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany426 Posts
April 09 2013 10:09 GMT
#84
I actually hate it if they bottom right corner is covered. You never know when watching a Zerg what they are actually building and thus it's pretty much impossible to learn from such streams.
A Wild Sosd
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia421 Posts
April 09 2013 10:27 GMT
#85
I'd love to see this in some more streams! Really cool and interesting idea.
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Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
April 09 2013 10:52 GMT
#86
Gotta be careful to not enter passwords anywhere with on-screen keyboard on
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 09 2013 11:04 GMT
#87
On April 09 2013 19:52 Kaiwa wrote:
Gotta be careful to not enter passwords anywhere with on-screen keyboard on


That is actually a pretty good point. Even if you only have half of your keyboard revealed, it might be quite bad.
In case anything happens, I hope blizzard's mobile verification system will catch it before it goes out of control. ^.^"
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 17:37:57
April 09 2013 17:32 GMT
#88
As others have said, I would love to use this if it was actually supported by the streaming software directly rather than having to screen capture it. That's just too much on peoples CPUs or monitor sizing(s). Damn! This was exciting :D

As soon as there's an option for most of us, I'm sure we'd use it.
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Scheme
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom210 Posts
April 09 2013 17:43 GMT
#89
It would be extremely neat if this could be added as a plug in to OBS, instead of using the screen capture like many people mentioned. It doesn't sounds like it would be very hard to code.
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
April 09 2013 17:45 GMT
#90
On April 10 2013 02:32 Lumi wrote:
As others have said, I would love to use this if it was actually supported by the streaming software directly rather than having to screen capture it. That's just too much on peoples CPUs or monitor sizing(s). Damn! This was exciting :D

As soon as there's an option for most of us, I'm sure we'd use it.


Apparently direct capture is possible for some people, and not showing up for others. I'll try to investigate.
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
Ingach
Profile Joined May 2011
1 Post
April 09 2013 18:48 GMT
#91
On April 09 2013 18:46 guruPanda wrote:
I'm a little concerned about Passwords being seen on stream...


It seems there's an option in the software to disable the keyboard when entering passwords, although I'm not sure how reliable it is.
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
April 09 2013 19:17 GMT
#92
On April 10 2013 03:48 Ingach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 18:46 guruPanda wrote:
I'm a little concerned about Passwords being seen on stream...


It seems there's an option in the software to disable the keyboard when entering passwords, although I'm not sure how reliable it is.


To be safe, I suggest switching to a scene where the keyboard is not up anytime you are outside the game.
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
April 09 2013 19:20 GMT
#93
On April 10 2013 03:48 Ingach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 18:46 guruPanda wrote:
I'm a little concerned about Passwords being seen on stream...


It seems there's an option in the software to disable the keyboard when entering passwords, although I'm not sure how reliable it is.


It isn't. Didn't hide my facebook password. I make sure not to do anything on stream with passwords.
Yargh
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 19:49:10
April 09 2013 19:48 GMT
#94
tab out to OBS, uncheck the keyboard, go back into SC2/whatever, and then log in, go out...

a bit annoying, but it works
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
emart835
Profile Joined November 2011
United States24 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 22:59:21
April 09 2013 19:59 GMT
#95
Is there any way to make this work with a custom layout? I'd like to create one similar to Siglemic's N64 controller, but with an Arcade control panel from Donkey Kong. Would there be any way that I could use my own Photoshopped image onto this?

[EDIT] I figured it out! You can fully customize a personal keyboard. it wont be as exact as Siglemic's, but I was able to make buttons highlight on a digital DK control panel. Awesome program!
Dracorath
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom120 Posts
April 10 2013 23:34 GMT
#96
Really awesome.
I'm the General Manager/Leader for Galactic Gaming and a aspiring Twitch caster.
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
April 11 2013 00:53 GMT
#97
On April 10 2013 02:45 shindigs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 02:32 Lumi wrote:
As others have said, I would love to use this if it was actually supported by the streaming software directly rather than having to screen capture it. That's just too much on peoples CPUs or monitor sizing(s). Damn! This was exciting :D

As soon as there's an option for most of us, I'm sure we'd use it.


Apparently direct capture is possible for some people, and not showing up for others. I'll try to investigate.

Windows 7 64 bit + obs 32bit but not working. I think we should compile combinations people are using to see which combos work.
www.twitter.com/rootillusion & www.facebook.com/illusionsc2
ArroW.LionS
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland10 Posts
April 11 2013 09:05 GMT
#98
I have the problem that when I tab out it disappears then, knows anyone a solution?
HappyZerGling
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Ukraine161 Posts
April 11 2013 19:18 GMT
#99
I really want to do it as well, but I can use only one screen for streaming;; hope someone will find the way!
happy me, happy skill, happy win :D twitch.tv/happyzerg https://twitter.com/HappyZerG1
Minigun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
619 Posts
April 12 2013 01:53 GMT
#100
On April 12 2013 04:18 FXO.Slavik wrote:
I really want to do it as well, but I can use only one screen for streaming;; hope someone will find the way!


Yeah someone want to work on it? ;D
“Quiet people have the loudest minds.” ― Stephen Hawking
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
April 12 2013 23:12 GMT
#101
Just throwing out another random solution - have you tried game capture?

Also, I'm assuming you guys play fullscreen/fullscreen windowed.
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
TechSc2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands554 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-13 16:00:19
April 13 2013 16:00 GMT
#102
On April 13 2013 08:12 shindigs wrote:
Just throwing out another random solution - have you tried game capture?

Also, I'm assuming you guys play fullscreen/fullscreen windowed.


The problem with Hot Virtual Keyboard is that it's running as an background process, not as a windowed program. so none of the OBS features can capture it. Xsplit can capture screen regions and this basically solves the problem.

But since most people are now streaming with OBS ( including me and i have a 2 year paid Xsplit license ) making a plugin for the hot virtual keyobard software would be amazing. If i had any knowledge on doing this i would so do it, but alas i'm not a coder.
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NewDawn
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada120 Posts
April 13 2013 18:01 GMT
#103
I know this may be a stupid question, but how do you disable it from auto-running on start up? I tried the in-program settings and msconfig, but it's still starting up :l
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KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 22:45:41
April 15 2013 20:20 GMT
#104
On April 14 2013 01:00 TechSc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 08:12 shindigs wrote:
Just throwing out another random solution - have you tried game capture?

Also, I'm assuming you guys play fullscreen/fullscreen windowed.


The problem with Hot Virtual Keyboard is that it's running as an background process, not as a windowed program. so none of the OBS features can capture it. Xsplit can capture screen regions and this basically solves the problem.

But since most people are now streaming with OBS ( including me and i have a 2 year paid Xsplit license ) making a plugin for the hot virtual keyobard software would be amazing. If i had any knowledge on doing this i would so do it, but alas i'm not a coder.


In options>Theme if you check "Native style of the window" it will turn it into a normal window that OBS can capture with Window Capture. This prevents you from having to use slow ass windows 7 monitor capture I have yet to figure out how to make it not be always on top though, that's pretty annoying

edit: Saw an earlier post that basically said "If you play around with alt tab it eventually hides under SC2" this works, but is not elegant

edit2: If you are asking for 30 bucks for your program, make an options menu that doesn't suck complete ass, good lord
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
-BCNPalomino-
Profile Joined May 2012
United States45 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 22:51:45
April 15 2013 22:44 GMT
#105
you can capture a screen region just like xsplit, its just not as obvious. right click in the sources box, Add-software capture...keep monitor capture 1 on unless the virtual keyboard is on another monitor, check the sub-region box and click select region. its the exact same as screen region for xsplit. I've been using this method since first learning about the virtual keyboard http://www.twitch.tv/palomino_sc2 my keyboard randomly switches to korean ingame
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shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 00:15:49
April 16 2013 00:10 GMT
#106
On April 16 2013 05:20 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 01:00 TechSc2 wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:12 shindigs wrote:
Just throwing out another random solution - have you tried game capture?

Also, I'm assuming you guys play fullscreen/fullscreen windowed.


The problem with Hot Virtual Keyboard is that it's running as an background process, not as a windowed program. so none of the OBS features can capture it. Xsplit can capture screen regions and this basically solves the problem.

But since most people are now streaming with OBS ( including me and i have a 2 year paid Xsplit license ) making a plugin for the hot virtual keyobard software would be amazing. If i had any knowledge on doing this i would so do it, but alas i'm not a coder.


In options>Theme if you check "Native style of the window" it will turn it into a normal window that OBS can capture with Window Capture. This prevents you from having to use slow ass windows 7 monitor capture I have yet to figure out how to make it not be always on top though, that's pretty annoying

edit: Saw an earlier post that basically said "If you play around with alt tab it eventually hides under SC2" this works, but is not elegant

edit2: If you are asking for 30 bucks for your program, make an options menu that doesn't suck complete ass, good lord


Wow...thanks for the solution. this is gonna help a ton of people! Added it to the OP
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Seryen
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania34 Posts
April 16 2013 00:44 GMT
#107
On April 16 2013 05:20 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 01:00 TechSc2 wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:12 shindigs wrote:
Just throwing out another random solution - have you tried game capture?

Also, I'm assuming you guys play fullscreen/fullscreen windowed.


The problem with Hot Virtual Keyboard is that it's running as an background process, not as a windowed program. so none of the OBS features can capture it. Xsplit can capture screen regions and this basically solves the problem.

But since most people are now streaming with OBS ( including me and i have a 2 year paid Xsplit license ) making a plugin for the hot virtual keyobard software would be amazing. If i had any knowledge on doing this i would so do it, but alas i'm not a coder.


In options>Theme if you check "Native style of the window" it will turn it into a normal window that OBS can capture with Window Capture. This prevents you from having to use slow ass windows 7 monitor capture I have yet to figure out how to make it not be always on top though, that's pretty annoying

edit: Saw an earlier post that basically said "If you play around with alt tab it eventually hides under SC2" this works, but is not elegant


Thx for that


If you use full screen windowed mode on sc2,you can just drag the keyboard out of the monitor.It works for me.
The only problem i have now is that i can't find a way to move the keyboard on stream.It always appears on the top-left of my monitor.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
April 16 2013 00:53 GMT
#108
On April 16 2013 09:44 Seryen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 05:20 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On April 14 2013 01:00 TechSc2 wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:12 shindigs wrote:
Just throwing out another random solution - have you tried game capture?

Also, I'm assuming you guys play fullscreen/fullscreen windowed.


The problem with Hot Virtual Keyboard is that it's running as an background process, not as a windowed program. so none of the OBS features can capture it. Xsplit can capture screen regions and this basically solves the problem.

But since most people are now streaming with OBS ( including me and i have a 2 year paid Xsplit license ) making a plugin for the hot virtual keyobard software would be amazing. If i had any knowledge on doing this i would so do it, but alas i'm not a coder.


In options>Theme if you check "Native style of the window" it will turn it into a normal window that OBS can capture with Window Capture. This prevents you from having to use slow ass windows 7 monitor capture I have yet to figure out how to make it not be always on top though, that's pretty annoying

edit: Saw an earlier post that basically said "If you play around with alt tab it eventually hides under SC2" this works, but is not elegant


Thx for that


If you use full screen windowed mode on sc2,you can just drag the keyboard out of the monitor.It works for me.
The only problem i have now is that i can't find a way to move the keyboard on stream.It always appears on the top-left of my monitor.

Well, if you are using OBS you just press Edit Scene and move things around. Click on the keyboard source in your sources box, this will outline it in red on your preview window. Move it around and resize it wherever you want.
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Seryen
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania34 Posts
April 16 2013 01:03 GMT
#109
God i`m so dumb.Thx alot my dear sir.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
April 16 2013 03:21 GMT
#110
On April 16 2013 10:03 Seryen wrote:
God i`m so dumb.Thx alot my dear sir.


np, it's actually something we get asked a lot over in OBS land
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Minigun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
619 Posts
April 16 2013 14:03 GMT
#111
On April 16 2013 05:20 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 01:00 TechSc2 wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:12 shindigs wrote:
Just throwing out another random solution - have you tried game capture?

Also, I'm assuming you guys play fullscreen/fullscreen windowed.


The problem with Hot Virtual Keyboard is that it's running as an background process, not as a windowed program. so none of the OBS features can capture it. Xsplit can capture screen regions and this basically solves the problem.

But since most people are now streaming with OBS ( including me and i have a 2 year paid Xsplit license ) making a plugin for the hot virtual keyobard software would be amazing. If i had any knowledge on doing this i would so do it, but alas i'm not a coder.


In options>Theme if you check "Native style of the window" it will turn it into a normal window that OBS can capture with Window Capture. This prevents you from having to use slow ass windows 7 monitor capture I have yet to figure out how to make it not be always on top though, that's pretty annoying

edit: Saw an earlier post that basically said "If you play around with alt tab it eventually hides under SC2" this works, but is not elegant

edit2: If you are asking for 30 bucks for your program, make an options menu that doesn't suck complete ass, good lord


woot! thanks!
“Quiet people have the loudest minds.” ― Stephen Hawking
TechSc2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands554 Posts
April 16 2013 17:44 GMT
#112
On April 16 2013 05:20 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 14 2013 01:00 TechSc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 08:12 shindigs wrote:
Just throwing out another random solution - have you tried game capture?

Also, I'm assuming you guys play fullscreen/fullscreen windowed.


The problem with Hot Virtual Keyboard is that it's running as an background process, not as a windowed program. so none of the OBS features can capture it. Xsplit can capture screen regions and this basically solves the problem.

But since most people are now streaming with OBS ( including me and i have a 2 year paid Xsplit license ) making a plugin for the hot virtual keyobard software would be amazing. If i had any knowledge on doing this i would so do it, but alas i'm not a coder.


In options>Theme if you check "Native style of the window" it will turn it into a normal window that OBS can capture with Window Capture. This prevents you from having to use slow ass windows 7 monitor capture I have yet to figure out how to make it not be always on top though, that's pretty annoying

edit: Saw an earlier post that basically said "If you play around with alt tab it eventually hides under SC2" this works, but is not elegant

edit2: If you are asking for 30 bucks for your program, make an options menu that doesn't suck complete ass, good lord


holy crap that was easier then i suspected, goddamn sir if this forum had any +1 karma options i would click it 100 times

thanks alot for this simple solution!
Twitch.tv/TechGTV / Twitter.com/TechGTV
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
April 16 2013 18:20 GMT
#113
I'm not able to get this to figure out how to open this with XSplit or so I can play and people can see it on stream , and not be able to click it... so confusing, help ! t.t
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
April 16 2013 18:34 GMT
#114
God that's cool.
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SirPsychoMantis
Profile Joined December 2011
United States180 Posts
April 17 2013 15:26 GMT
#115
Hey everybody, I just wanted to let you guys know that I am currently working on a keyboard display written using DirectX that can be used with game capture. I have a working prototype and I am really looking forward to bringing it to a releasable state.
Zerg #1
partouf
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Netherlands405 Posts
April 17 2013 15:35 GMT
#116
On April 18 2013 00:26 SirPsychoMantis wrote:
Hey everybody, I just wanted to let you guys know that I am currently working on a keyboard display written using DirectX that can be used with game capture. I have a working prototype and I am really looking forward to bringing it to a releasable state.


Would love it if you would consider open source, I have tried 2 of the mentioned keyboard programs, but have found them very buggy and lagging my game/streaming.
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SirPsychoMantis
Profile Joined December 2011
United States180 Posts
April 17 2013 15:44 GMT
#117
On April 18 2013 00:35 partouf wrote:
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On April 18 2013 00:26 SirPsychoMantis wrote:
Hey everybody, I just wanted to let you guys know that I am currently working on a keyboard display written using DirectX that can be used with game capture. I have a working prototype and I am really looking forward to bringing it to a releasable state.


Would love it if you would consider open source, I have tried 2 of the mentioned keyboard programs, but have found them very buggy and lagging my game/streaming.


Yup, definitely gonna be open source, however, this is my first program using Direct3D directly, so no promises on the prettiness of the code.
Zerg #1
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
April 17 2013 15:50 GMT
#118
Can't figure out this program for the life of me, how do you get it to work with xsplit anyone?
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
2x2actionFOX
Profile Joined February 2012
France59 Posts
April 19 2013 13:40 GMT
#119
Times to times (and it seems only when SC2 is running too) some keys stay highlighted for some reason, like if I was keeping pressing it. For example if I ALT + F4 from SC2 to windows, the ALT and F4 keys stay highlighted.
Am I the only one ? Any idea what could be happening ?
SirPsychoMantis
Profile Joined December 2011
United States180 Posts
April 19 2013 18:32 GMT
#120
On April 19 2013 22:40 2x2actionFOX wrote:
Times to times (and it seems only when SC2 is running too) some keys stay highlighted for some reason, like if I was keeping pressing it. For example if I ALT + F4 from SC2 to windows, the ALT and F4 keys stay highlighted.
Am I the only one ? Any idea what could be happening ?


This probably happens due to Alt+F4 being a special system call and it probably eats the messages to the program.
Zerg #1
Walnut_SC
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada33 Posts
April 19 2013 20:09 GMT
#121
Is there any way for me to use this on my stream with OBS when I play on windowed fullscreen mode? I can capture the keyboard box, and it functions properly, however when I alt tab to SC2 it no longer registers which keys I am pressing. I only have 1 monitor.
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
April 20 2013 20:35 GMT
#122
On April 20 2013 05:09 HciputS wrote:
Is there any way for me to use this on my stream with OBS when I play on windowed fullscreen mode? I can capture the keyboard box, and it functions properly, however when I alt tab to SC2 it no longer registers which keys I am pressing. I only have 1 monitor.


Maybe try turning on a 'lock' option on the program so it doesn't minimize when you alt tab? either that or just go into windowed mode and make it as big as possible.

let me know how it works!
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
April 21 2013 00:09 GMT
#123
Stumbled across this potential alternative today: http://www.grumpybread.com/download/gop-gop-goop-goop/

I may check it out tonight on stream. Perhaps it's easier to use than this other one, and better yet isn't asking $30 lol
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Scheme
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom210 Posts
April 21 2013 00:14 GMT
#124
On April 21 2013 09:09 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Stumbled across this potential alternative today: http://www.grumpybread.com/download/gop-gop-goop-goop/

I may check it out tonight on stream. Perhaps it's easier to use than this other one, and better yet isn't asking $30 lol


I mentioned in an earlier post in the thread that I had tested with gop.... you can even use game capture on the program as it uses DirectX, but I would get serious frame drops. Maybe someone can test it and see if they have better luck with it.

KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
April 21 2013 00:39 GMT
#125
On April 21 2013 09:14 Scheme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 09:09 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Stumbled across this potential alternative today: http://www.grumpybread.com/download/gop-gop-goop-goop/

I may check it out tonight on stream. Perhaps it's easier to use than this other one, and better yet isn't asking $30 lol


I mentioned in an earlier post in the thread that I had tested with gop.... you can even use game capture on the program as it uses DirectX, but I would get serious frame drops. Maybe someone can test it and see if they have better luck with it.



Ah, I'm sorry I missed your post. I will play around with it and see if I can find a way to get it working well.
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
April 21 2013 01:50 GMT
#126
It is made well, but I find it distracting on streams.
Walnut_SC
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada33 Posts
April 21 2013 02:16 GMT
#127
On April 21 2013 05:35 shindigs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 05:09 HciputS wrote:
Is there any way for me to use this on my stream with OBS when I play on windowed fullscreen mode? I can capture the keyboard box, and it functions properly, however when I alt tab to SC2 it no longer registers which keys I am pressing. I only have 1 monitor.


Maybe try turning on a 'lock' option on the program so it doesn't minimize when you alt tab? either that or just go into windowed mode and make it as big as possible.

let me know how it works!



Tried the lock thing, It keeps it in front of sc2 so that won't work. Windowed mode for me goes to a funny ratio, so I have bars from the desktop on either side, so I don't think I will do that. If anyone figures out how to make this work, please message me!

Thanks
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
April 21 2013 02:33 GMT
#128
Btw I found out you can include mouse click buttons on the virtual keyboard when you go to make your own...but they don't highlight when you click. I sent an email to their team so hopefully we can find out a way to make the mice highlight on click if people are interested in doing that on stream.
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
April 21 2013 03:22 GMT
#129
Tried a new thing today!



Quick set up and hacked together solution for streaming with a virtual arcade stick on PC.

Using JoyToKey: http://www.electracode.com/4/joy2key/...
and customized HOT Virtual Keyboard Layout: http://hot-virtual-keyboard.com/

JoyToKey maps Button 0 on the fight stick to the key 'a' so it highlights on the virtual keyboard set up. The green button is mapped to 'a'.

Up, down, left, and right are mapped to num 8, num 2, num 4, and num 6 respectively. For some reason it detects these as the default up down etc controls. I placed all the buttons on top of each other (the activated buttons float to the top for display) and made my own custom buttons in photoshop.
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
Tminus____
Profile Joined September 2011
249 Posts
April 22 2013 16:25 GMT
#130
This came up on reddit http://twofx.github.io/EZKey/ today said to work with OBS http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cv8ai/if_youre_a_streamer_and_were_unable_to_use_hot/
cmon gimme a break im to old for this shit
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
April 22 2013 16:28 GMT
#131
I would love to see this become standard or at least widely used. I love a little keyboard sound with the stream audio and this would really complete the experience.
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
April 22 2013 21:37 GMT
#132
On April 23 2013 01:25 Tminus____ wrote:
This came up on reddit http://twofx.github.io/EZKey/ today said to work with OBS http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cv8ai/if_youre_a_streamer_and_were_unable_to_use_hot/



Wow looks great! Once I get time to play around with it and get more info, I'll add it into the OP,
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
NewDawn
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada120 Posts
April 23 2013 21:48 GMT
#133
Well, so far EZKey seems to play really well with obs. http://www.twitch.tv/drawntolife/b/394804494

Can use Window Capture/Sub-Region etc. flawlessly. It also keeps up well, and didn't cause me any lag, neither on my end, or the stream. Good stuff!
이지은 | 송지은 | 정은지 | 홧팅 ~ !
Scheme
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom210 Posts
April 24 2013 10:16 GMT
#134
On April 24 2013 06:48 NewDawn wrote:
Well, so far EZKey seems to play really well with obs. http://www.twitch.tv/drawntolife/b/394804494

Can use Window Capture/Sub-Region etc. flawlessly. It also keeps up well, and didn't cause me any lag, neither on my end, or the stream. Good stuff!


Do you have your SC2 in Game capture or software capture?
NewDawn
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada120 Posts
April 24 2013 20:02 GMT
#135
I'm pretty sure that I use monitor capture actually.
이지은 | 송지은 | 정은지 | 홧팅 ~ !
The_revenge
Profile Joined May 2011
Mexico4 Posts
April 25 2013 04:38 GMT
#136
Has anyone figured out already how to play full windowed mode with virtual keyboard minimized and still registering keys?
VPVanek
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada238 Posts
April 29 2013 15:01 GMT
#137
On April 25 2013 13:38 The_revenge wrote:
Has anyone figured out already how to play full windowed mode with virtual keyboard minimized and still registering keys?

I am wondering the same thing
FoXer
TwoFx
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany3 Posts
April 29 2013 18:29 GMT
#138
I am the one who is developing EZKey, so if you have any questions or trouble with it, feel free to ask your question in this thread!

On April 30 2013 00:01 VPVanek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 13:38 The_revenge wrote:
Has anyone figured out already how to play full windowed mode with virtual keyboard minimized and still registering keys?

I am wondering the same thing


When I was experimenting with minimizing, my results were that Windows doesn't even render minimized windows. This usually makes sense, of course, because how are you supposed to look at it. However, it should work just fine as long as you don't minimize it but instead just put the other windows such as StarCraft above it.
fluxMayhem
Profile Joined June 2011
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 19:02:49
May 05 2013 06:33 GMT
#139
On April 30 2013 03:29 TwoFx wrote:
I am the one who is developing EZKey, so if you have any questions or trouble with it, feel free to ask your question in this thread!

Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 00:01 VPVanek wrote:
On April 25 2013 13:38 The_revenge wrote:
Has anyone figured out already how to play full windowed mode with virtual keyboard minimized and still registering keys?

I am wondering the same thing


When I was experimenting with minimizing, my results were that Windows doesn't even render minimized windows. This usually makes sense, of course, because how are you supposed to look at it. However, it should work just fine as long as you don't minimize it but instead just put the other windows such as StarCraft above it.


The problem is, the Virtual Keyboard will still remain over the starcraft screen while running
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
May 11 2013 22:07 GMT
#140
Another option here: https://obsproject.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=3783
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
verne
Profile Joined September 2010
United States43 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 04:11:13
May 17 2013 04:07 GMT
#141
hrm it says its 30 bucks but lets you download it.. is it free or no??
You can't fix stupid.
RUFinalBoss
Profile Joined May 2012
United States266 Posts
May 17 2013 04:07 GMT
#142
all i can think is vibe.
Story Of My SC2 Love Life, Meets ROOT. ROOT Disbands :( JOINS COL :D COL JOINS MVP :D HYPE! Col.MvP go byebye ): BUT THEN! ROOT GAMING IS BACK OMGOMGOMG qxc - Minigun - ROOTerdam - Catz - Drewbie - TaiLS - KeeN
TeslasPigeon
Profile Joined March 2012
464 Posts
May 17 2013 04:13 GMT
#143
I think this would be cool to see in some tournament settings. Imagine WCS EU where they have the cam shots of the players keyboards, now you see this for a period of 10 or 30 seconds when APM is high.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 04:25:13
May 17 2013 04:13 GMT
#144
If the OP is still in current version, you could probably use a condense keyboard layout instead. I sorely doubt that anybody uses their numpad for starcraft2. Try TTesports meka keyboard, the arrow keys cushion themselves right under the enter key to form a flush rectangle keyboard setup.
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or KBC poker:
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This is also done for seemingly 3d images of playstation and xbox controllers in case anybody was wondering. If the program gave the ability to edit the images i'd take it up.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
May 17 2013 04:17 GMT
#145
On May 17 2013 13:13 TeslasPigeon wrote:
I think this would be cool to see in some tournament settings. Imagine WCS EU where they have the cam shots of the players keyboards, now you see this for a period of 10 or 30 seconds when APM is high.


What's even cooler is when the camera-view cuts into first-person of each player. I don't know if you've ever watched korean BW, but that was always really cool to see, and i've been waiting for that to happen. Dreamhack usually experiments with a lot of cool features (heartrate monitor?) and i would see them doing something like this. I also believe MLG has a separate display (and stream) for player FPV, but it would still be very cool to be lead into FPV on the main screen.
These days, you could have the whole shabang... FPV together with keyboard cam as an overlay.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
May 17 2013 07:23 GMT
#146
Ahh I should update the OP with more relevant information and alternatives.

So I saw CatZ stream with a daskeyboard skin. It would be awesome if he or someone from ROOT could release it because I would totally use it as well as many others, as daskeyboard is pretty popular among SC2 players. Would be a good way to gain a little exposure for the brand too!
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
verne
Profile Joined September 2010
United States43 Posts
May 17 2013 17:05 GMT
#147
I cannot get OBS to work so I'll probably stick to Xsplit but I dont see how to add software capture.. anyone have an Xsplit tutorial???

OBS won't let me resize my camera and I still can't figure out how to tell it where to stream my stuff.. why does this stuff always have to be so overly complcated with no instruction.

You can't fix stupid.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
May 17 2013 17:08 GMT
#148
On May 18 2013 02:05 verne wrote:
I cannot get OBS to work so I'll probably stick to Xsplit but I dont see how to add software capture.. anyone have an Xsplit tutorial???

OBS won't let me resize my camera and I still can't figure out how to tell it where to stream my stuff.. why does this stuff always have to be so overly complcated with no instruction.



This is all in the guides section of the forum, stickied at the top...

https://obsproject.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=642
https://obsproject.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=410
https://obsproject.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=402
https://obsproject.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=665

Some things are slightly repositioned/renamed in newer versions, but the basic concepts are all there. If you still can't figure it out after reading this then...idk. The software isn't complicated =/
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
June 11 2013 05:38 GMT
#149
so what do people do about it expiring and randomly shuts down in 30 minutes... I just dont think its worth the money
joofro92
Profile Joined July 2011
United States108 Posts
June 11 2013 05:41 GMT
#150
On June 11 2013 14:38 OpTiKDream wrote:
so what do people do about it expiring and randomly shuts down in 30 minutes... I just dont think its worth the money

For CatZ's stream, he just restarts it every 30 minutes lol. There doesn't seem to be a permanent fix for this unless you wish to buy it.
Slayer-
Profile Joined February 2010
United States113 Posts
June 13 2013 21:23 GMT
#151
Do people really enjoy this in streams? or would they prefer streamers to just uncover the bottom right command card? I was about ready to implement it into my stream but shortly realized I dont want every single one of my keystrokes to be registered to god knows where- perhaps even when the program is closed. Keyloggers circa 2001 stealing all your diablo 2 items :O
the best way to add insult to injury is to sign someones cast
DreamEater
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6 Posts
June 21 2013 18:44 GMT
#152
On April 02 2013 02:43 tuho12345 wrote:
pretty cool idea, kudos!
But I'm not sure how helpful it is to the audience, seems a little too much distractions for them


I think it's great because you can always check VoDs
Sweet dreams.
Avos5
Profile Joined April 2013
27 Posts
July 08 2013 06:46 GMT
#153
I dont really want to revive an old thread here, but it seemed important enough to have 8 pages.

I found a key visualizer with a keylock hotkey, free, developer seems to make it geared for starcraft streaming.

http://twofx.github.io/EZKey/

pretty easy to do, pretty easy to set up, and use, works with OBS pretty well, seemed pretty decent on my stream
It looks rather ugly how I had it set up, I was just antsy to test it and see how well it logged everything. so my edges just dont line up that well and I dont have it worked into any overlay.

with that disclaimer
http://www.twitch.tv/avos5/c/2542128
you can change the colors on basically everything, ideal for chroma keying it out, you can change the sizes of everything, even font type, you can change the shape of your keys and make them round or square or anywhere between. plus, FREE.

hope this helps.
Finn_
Profile Joined April 2012
50 Posts
August 01 2013 23:02 GMT
#154
How do i get it so the virtual keyboard is not on top of my screen all the time with one monitor?
yay i love stream
Avos5
Profile Joined April 2013
27 Posts
August 08 2013 22:52 GMT
#155
there should be a setting that allows you to check "always on top" and make sure its off.

i know with EZ key, its automatically not always on top. but which visualizer are you using?
ArroW.LionS
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland10 Posts
August 09 2013 09:04 GMT
#156
Is that normal when i have the virtual keyboard and i tab out to my second screen, the programm shutting down? is there anyway to fix that with Xsplit or not ?
thejames10
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada1 Post
August 13 2013 01:42 GMT
#157
For people with a dual PC streaming setup, is there a way that you could get this to work?
I know the auto scene changer program for Starcraft 2 and League Of Legends does take that in mind by having the "Dual Compter Mode"

Would this be an idea for the future?

~Panda
NightVision
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada7 Posts
August 31 2013 22:36 GMT
#158
Hi there, I have the program called '' HOT virtual keyboard '' but how do I put it on my stream overlay ? I just kept searching for 30 minutes for this and I have no idea how to put it on..

I use OBS

Thanks !!
Fighting !
FetusThrower
Profile Joined August 2013
United States50 Posts
September 01 2013 03:08 GMT
#159
I don't really care for things like this. It's distracting and kind of useless to watch people's hands/face/etc. I'd rather watch what they're doing, because it's a lot more summarized and less confusing to follow (if that's what you're actually trying to pull off by watching the keyboard).

I don't find APM all too amazing unless you're like, Madbull or someone else.
{~Ever gotten so mad you could just throw babies?~} - Frequent twitch viewer/web personality with "sub-bronze" SC2 analysis
guruPanda
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany32 Posts
September 30 2013 15:22 GMT
#160
Hm, I really like this, I don't like having to have it in the corner of my eye though. Does anybody know of a way where OBS can capture this aside from a screen-capture? Some things obs can capture even when they're in the backround.
Dasian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 09:54:53
January 20 2014 06:37 GMT
#161
I've tried a lot of the options here, and I will personally be using NohBoard, as it seems to be the best free opensource option at the moment. Here are my thoughts on the options I tried from this thread:

NohBoard -
http://obsproject.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=3783
http://sourceforge.net/projects/nohboard/
Pros:
- Free
- Open source
- Has full keyboard layout, functional Alt key (deal maker for me)
- Mouse input layout and mouse direction display
- Options to make your own layout and only include the keys you want
- Customizable colors
Cons:
- Not exaclty a con, but it would be cool if the mouse layout were on a diagram of a mouse, but not a big deal. I think this can probably be accomplished with a customizable layout.
- Have to open up 2 instances of the program (as far as I know) to get the mouse AND keyboard layouts. They have to be in 2 separate windows
EDIT: I just made my own layout that has both keyboard and mouse. No need for 2 instances!

EzKey -
http://twofx.github.io/EZKey/
Pros:
- Free
- Open Source
- Customizable Colors
Cons
- Some keys are missing (Alt key, NumPad, Arrow keys, or Home/End/PgUp/PgDn/Insert/Delete)
- No Mouse input display

Gop-Gop-Goop-Goop
http://www.grumpybread.com/download/gop-gop-goop-goop/
Pros:
- Free
- Open source
- Full keyboard layout
- Customizable colors
- Ability to turn off certain keys if you don't want them to show keypresses
- Mouse diagram and button layout (in one window!)
Cons
- No mouse direction indicator (still awesome though)
- Alt indicator does not work
- No customizable layouts
2x2actionFOX
Profile Joined February 2012
France59 Posts
November 12 2014 13:04 GMT
#162
I just switched to Win 8.1 and this software is the only one I didn't manage to make it works
With OBS and only one monitor, no way to get it renderedn even with the "Native Style of Window"

Anyone managed to make it works w/ win8.1 and 1 monitor please ?
Dan1234
Profile Joined January 2015
2 Posts
January 19 2015 16:09 GMT
#163
I wrote up a simple keyboard overlay program for streaming on OBS / recording games. Here it is in action:



It is a transparent overlay on the screen.

You can customize the colors of the outline, keys, highlights
Full keyboard Layout (All PF keys, Numpad, etc.)
Customized keyboard layout (Don't want to show the numpad? Take it off)
Ability to change where it is on the screen (Since it's an overlay and not a separate window, this is important.)
5-button mouse supported.

Cons:
Does not show direction of mouse movement (Having problems implementing this)
The return key shows up on the keyboard and numpad (Having issues separating this)

It works on Windows 7 and 8.1 with 1 monitor and OBS streams.

Is this a program anyone that streams would be interested in?
Swirly00
Profile Joined January 2012
21 Posts
January 19 2015 17:56 GMT
#164
Looks nice I'd use it.
Dan1234
Profile Joined January 2015
2 Posts
January 20 2015 06:52 GMT
#165
I just made a video showing the program running from start to finish:



Would anyone be interested in Beta Testing it? (I need to clean it up a bit but it wouldn't take too long).
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