On March 06 2013 18:04 liberate71 wrote: Not even the most dedicated Rain fanboys will think this is "right".
I like Rain, and was hoping he'd make it through todays groups... but *matrix scene* "...Not like this..."
On March 06 2013 18:03 zenkicker wrote: Who might be the other player? I'm guessing whoever wins the IEM.
^ yeah I think youre right there.
I'll be interested to see what GOMTV's rational for this will be
"oh he was in Code S before but due to commitments, had to leave, so he should get that chance back" better not be the reason or I'll puke.
Imagine if it is due to a forthcoming monster announcement "Ladies and Gentlemen... please welcome... LGIM.Rain"
^^ would be funny but SKTT1 can pay more then any other proteam, i doubt ANY good player will EVER leave SKTT1 if they not want him leave ^^
also mr chea says they will say the reasons later so there ARE reasons and sofar its fine
hope 2nd seed protoss too, to less protoss in code s so far (6p 9t 15z ^^ half zerg, so its good no hots z buffs then they are fair after season 2 )
edit: knowing that OSL will start soon, it would be really understandable to have OSL#1 SEED CODE S and GSL#1 SEED OSL, and GSL cant say it because they have to wait OSL announce their new season ... well its the most logical reason
His salary was set during BW-era where he was godlike. I assume he won't even get a new contract. ~_~
He earns at least double that amount during BW-era, this 100k salary is already reduced significantly to give some to Rain and parting. That's why Bisu and team had some unpleasant last summer. And I still don't believe it is that low.
GOM and Mr. Chae have established a good history of credibility. They say we will know the details in time. I'm going to hold off judgement until that time.
There are lots of legitimate scenarios that I can think of where a player gets a seed but explanation cannot come till later. What if a player cheated against Rain to deny him getting into code S? Not saying that is the case at all but just showing that condemning GOM / Chae at this point is stupid without knowing the whole story. I'm content to wait. It doesn't ruin my day.
On March 07 2013 02:47 Darkhoarse wrote: I'm gonna be honest this seems like complete bullshit. Sniper would win between the two in overall GSL points am I correct? They better have a really good reason why he got a walkover in the hardest tournament in the world.
Sniper won a GSL, Rain won an OSL, so that's roughly equivalent, but Rain is much more popular. It's unexpected, but you can still somewhat justify it.
Hell, remember when they gave Idra and Sen seeds to GSL Season 1 in 2012? Sen hadn't even placed higher than 3rd at a premier tournament, and Idra had only won IEM Guangzhou, against relatively light competition. This is much more reasonable than that at least.
LMFAO no GSL and OSL are not equivalent, mayble OSL in the future but the quality of play, Commentators, observers, they werent even upto par with GSL. I say this as a broodwar fan who has followed the scene since SKY OSL 2002 (which Reach won ). The Wings of Liberty OSL was a pretty much joke to me, I even had to mute the stream because the commentating was abosolutely god awful.
I thought 1 seed would be given away and the extra one would be given away through another group like some people have mentioned but I guess they don't want to have the players play another WOL group (assuming it would be WOL since the U/D has been so far) with HOTS so close to release and everyone wanted to switch.
Rain is an amazing player so I really have no problem with the seed. Also interested to hear the reasoning when they can finally say.
Holy what's with all this cloak and dagger regarding the seeding explanation, that gom just can't announce the reason for it today? They've given seeds to far lesser players in the past, so there is no need for this cloak and dagger bs. Just come out and say the reason and be done with it.
On March 07 2013 03:40 Canucklehead wrote: Holy what's with all this cloak and dagger regarding the seeding explanation, that gom just can't announce the reason for it today? They've given seeds to far lesser players in the past, so there is no need for this cloak and dagger bs. Just come out and say the reason and be done with it.
I don't get it and their reasoning has to be good. They should have granted the seed earlier and made the announcement, players prepared matches for him.
On March 07 2013 02:47 Darkhoarse wrote: I'm gonna be honest this seems like complete bullshit. Sniper would win between the two in overall GSL points am I correct? They better have a really good reason why he got a walkover in the hardest tournament in the world.
Sniper won a GSL, Rain won an OSL, so that's roughly equivalent, but Rain is much more popular. It's unexpected, but you can still somewhat justify it.
Hell, remember when they gave Idra and Sen seeds to GSL Season 1 in 2012? Sen hadn't even placed higher than 3rd at a premier tournament, and Idra had only won IEM Guangzhou, against relatively light competition. This is much more reasonable than that at least.
LMFAO no GSL and OSL are not equivalent, mayble OSL in the future but the quality of play, Commentators, observers, they werent even upto par with GSL. I say this as a broodwar fan who has followed the scene since SKY OSL 2002 (which Reach won ). The Wings of Liberty OSL was a pretty much joke to me, I even had to mute the stream because the commentating was abosolutely god awful.
I don't see how commentator quality, observer quality, etc. is relevant to how difficult a tournament is. Beside, OSL does have that brand recognition in Korea over GSL.
On March 06 2013 18:04 liberate71 wrote: Not even the most dedicated Rain fanboys will think this is "right".
I like Rain, and was hoping he'd make it through todays groups... but *matrix scene* "...Not like this..."
On March 06 2013 18:03 zenkicker wrote: Who might be the other player? I'm guessing whoever wins the IEM.
^ yeah I think youre right there.
I'll be interested to see what GOMTV's rational for this will be
"oh he was in Code S before but due to commitments, had to leave, so he should get that chance back" better not be the reason or I'll puke.
Imagine if it is due to a forthcoming monster announcement "Ladies and Gentlemen... please welcome... LGIM.Rain"
^^ would be funny but SKTT1 can pay more then any other proteam, i doubt ANY good player will EVER leave SKTT1 if they not want him leave ^^
also mr chea says they will say the reasons later so there ARE reasons and sofar its fine
hope 2nd seed protoss too, to less protoss in code s so far (6p 9t 15z ^^ half zerg, so its good no hots z buffs then they are fair after season 2 )
edit: knowing that OSL will start soon, it would be really understandable to have OSL#1 SEED CODE S and GSL#1 SEED OSL, and GSL cant say it because they have to wait OSL announce their new season ... well its the most logical reason
His salary was set during BW-era where he was godlike. I assume he won't even get a new contract. ~_~
He earns at least double that amount during BW-era, this 100k salary is already reduced significantly to give some to Rain and parting. That's why Bisu and team had some unpleasant last summer. And I still don't believe it is that low.
You just wait for HotS. Bisu will be back.
For the Rain seed mystery: I can't think of anything that would explain this odd sequence of action... Mr Chae will probably come up with a good explanation, but I wonder what that could be...