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On March 07 2013 02:17 figq wrote:
Not to mention every league is totally free to seed whoever they want by whatever (nonexistent) criteria they wish. They organize it, it's their event, they own it, they can invite whoever they want. They can seed Dustin Browder's grandmother if they so desire. They don't need to behave like some freaking apologetic servants to us.
you can behave whatever way you please but that would be a terrible public relations mistake seeding DBs grandmother, or anybody else without a good argument. clients buy the tickets and expect top quality and fair competition, not chaos and corruption or corporative favors. Im not saying clients are entitled to it, but they expect it. its like invisible codex, they dont have to, but its the rigth thing to respect your clientele and give explanation for things like this. Otherwise you risk to loose credibility. you dont need to behave like an ass just because you can, thats what i mean
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I, for one, have confidence that Gom has a good explanation. But maybe that's just me.
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In before all the unnecessary butthurt. He could have made it out of his group anyway, so I don't really give a shit.
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So, what they will do is never actually release the statement as to why, and hopefully it'll all just blow over.
I'm genuinely interested in what they can conjure up for this.
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On March 06 2013 17:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Why not just play the wild card group for the last 2 spots in code S instead of doing seeds. what the fuck!
Not enough time for Gom when the final and their move to new studio is so soon. The only time that may work would be right after the last group, which is unfair for the last group player since the player can't prepare for other players and have to play again in just few hours after his u&d.
I feel like seed has something to do with the GomTV HOTS special that's suppose to play in 4 days.
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On March 07 2013 01:03 CoR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 18:04 liberate71 wrote:Not even the most dedicated Rain fanboys will think this is "right". I like Rain, and was hoping he'd make it through todays groups... but *matrix scene* "...Not like this..." On March 06 2013 18:03 zenkicker wrote:
Who might be the other player? I'm guessing whoever wins the IEM. ^ yeah I think youre right there. I'll be interested to see what GOMTV's rational for this will be  "oh he was in Code S before but due to commitments, had to leave, so he should get that chance back" better not be the reason or I'll puke. Imagine if it is due to a forthcoming monster announcement "Ladies and Gentlemen... please welcome... LGIM.Rain" ^^ would be funny but SKTT1 can pay more then any other proteam, i doubt ANY good player will EVER leave SKTT1 if they not want him leave ^^also mr chea says they will say the reasons later so there ARE reasons and sofar its fine  hope 2nd seed protoss too, to less protoss in code s so far (6p 9t 15z ^^ half zerg, so its good no hots z buffs then they are fair after season 2 ) edit: knowing that OSL will start soon, it would be really understandable to have OSL#1 SEED CODE S and GSL#1 SEED OSL, and GSL cant say it because they have to wait OSL announce their new season ... well its the most logical reason
Theyre filthy rich team, hence explains Bisu's 100k salary (not official) despite his poor performance
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I woudl imagine that there is something to do with the new OSL and the winner of this weeks final.
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" I can say that GomTV did not award the seed due to outside pressure, in a ridiculous attempt to gain popularity, or because a specific company has extended sponsorship."
I wouldn't have assumed that until he mentioned it so specifically.
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I like the system where they give the winners of select major tournaments auto seeds into Code S. For example giving the winner of IEM or the up coming MLG a Code S seed would make sense and was a fair system when they used to do that.
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On March 07 2013 03:09 Junho.C wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 17:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Why not just play the wild card group for the last 2 spots in code S instead of doing seeds. what the fuck! Not enough time for Gom when the final and their move to new studio is so soon. The only time that may work would be right after the last group, which is unfair for the last group player since the player can't prepare for other players and have to play again in just few hours after his u&d. I feel like seed has something to do with the GomTV HOTS special that's suppose to play in 4 days.
They said today they might still do it and it just wouldn't be streamed i believe. I thought I heard them say that at the beginning but I might be wrong
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On March 07 2013 03:10 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 01:03 CoR wrote:On March 06 2013 18:04 liberate71 wrote:Not even the most dedicated Rain fanboys will think this is "right". I like Rain, and was hoping he'd make it through todays groups... but *matrix scene* "...Not like this..." On March 06 2013 18:03 zenkicker wrote:
Who might be the other player? I'm guessing whoever wins the IEM. ^ yeah I think youre right there. I'll be interested to see what GOMTV's rational for this will be "oh he was in Code S before but due to commitments, had to leave, so he should get that chance back" better not be the reason or I'll puke. Imagine if it is due to a forthcoming monster announcement "Ladies and Gentlemen... please welcome... LGIM.Rain" ^^ would be funny but SKTT1 can pay more then any other proteam, i doubt ANY good player will EVER leave SKTT1 if they not want him leave ^^also mr chea says they will say the reasons later so there ARE reasons and sofar its fine hope 2nd seed protoss too, to less protoss in code s so far (6p 9t 15z ^^ half zerg, so its good no hots z buffs then they are fair after season 2 ) edit: knowing that OSL will start soon, it would be really understandable to have OSL#1 SEED CODE S and GSL#1 SEED OSL, and GSL cant say it because they have to wait OSL announce their new season ... well its the most logical reason Theyre filthy rich team, hence explains Bisu's 100k salary (not official) despite his poor performance
His salary was set during BW-era where he was godlike. I assume he won't even get a new contract. ~_~
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The sudden seed is sort of weird, but I don't realllllly see the reason for all the anger in this thread ._.
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On March 07 2013 03:17 LuckyMacro wrote:
The sudden seed is sort of weird, but I don't realllllly see the reason for all the anger in this thread ._.
Mob mentality bro.
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On March 07 2013 03:15 Gescom wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 03:10 mongmong wrote:On March 07 2013 01:03 CoR wrote:On March 06 2013 18:04 liberate71 wrote:Not even the most dedicated Rain fanboys will think this is "right". I like Rain, and was hoping he'd make it through todays groups... but *matrix scene* "...Not like this..." On March 06 2013 18:03 zenkicker wrote:
Who might be the other player? I'm guessing whoever wins the IEM. ^ yeah I think youre right there. I'll be interested to see what GOMTV's rational for this will be "oh he was in Code S before but due to commitments, had to leave, so he should get that chance back" better not be the reason or I'll puke. Imagine if it is due to a forthcoming monster announcement "Ladies and Gentlemen... please welcome... LGIM.Rain" ^^ would be funny but SKTT1 can pay more then any other proteam, i doubt ANY good player will EVER leave SKTT1 if they not want him leave ^^also mr chea says they will say the reasons later so there ARE reasons and sofar its fine hope 2nd seed protoss too, to less protoss in code s so far (6p 9t 15z ^^ half zerg, so its good no hots z buffs then they are fair after season 2 ) edit: knowing that OSL will start soon, it would be really understandable to have OSL#1 SEED CODE S and GSL#1 SEED OSL, and GSL cant say it because they have to wait OSL announce their new season ... well its the most logical reason Theyre filthy rich team, hence explains Bisu's 100k salary (not official) despite his poor performance His salary was set during BW-era where he was godlike. I assume he won't even get a new contract. ~_~
His latest contract was done after august. So I think he's fine for now.
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I would have just assumed Rain got seeded because he's fucking good at starcraft 2.
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Excited to see Rain back in Code S. He's definitely a Code S caliber player and his style is entertaining to watch.
However, doesn't change the fact that this is really weird.
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On March 07 2013 02:55 Yoshirou_Iba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 02:17 figq wrote:
Not to mention every league is totally free to seed whoever they want by whatever (nonexistent) criteria they wish. They organize it, it's their event, they own it, they can invite whoever they want. They can seed Dustin Browder's grandmother if they so desire. They don't need to behave like some freaking apologetic servants to us. you can behave whatever way you please but that would be a terrible public relations mistake seeding DBs grandmother, or anybody else without a good argument. clients buy the tickets and expect top quality and fair competition, not chaos and corruption or corporative favors. Im not saying clients are entitled to it, but they expect it. its like invisible codex, they dont have to, but its the rigth thing to respect your clientele and give explanation for things like this. Otherwise you risk to loose credibility. you dont need to behave like an ass just because you can, thats what i mean I just mean they are free to invite people without any explanations. It's a totally different story if viewers would like watching that and would pay for another subscription. If not - then they shouldn't do it, but if they decide to do it, they don't need to apologize for anything. If I don't want to watch Rain in Code S, their apologizing won't help me.
I'd personally love to see Rain in Code S, he's one of the top players in the world right now, so that's not an unreasonable decision at all, imho.
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On March 07 2013 03:25 Carbonthief wrote:
I would have just assumed Rain got seeded because he's fucking good at starcraft 2.
thats not a good reason
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my money's on osl/gsl arrangement as well.
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