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TriO
Profile Joined July 2011
United States421 Posts
February 09 2013 02:03 GMT
#241
if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.
My dream is to tear up your dream.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
February 09 2013 02:05 GMT
#242
I am glad to see it appears that some actual research was done this time.
SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
February 09 2013 02:06 GMT
#243
On February 09 2013 11:02 Doodsmack wrote:
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On February 09 2013 10:50 SlixSC wrote:
On February 09 2013 10:24 howLiN wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:42 SlixSC wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:27 HomeWorld wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:01 RemarK wrote:
Here is another short video I made showing that both NITRIXeDRINK accounts are name changes from accounts used in the replay pack that Daisuki posted on TeamLiquid.net



I believe this should address all of the questions some people have brought up about accounts. (I'll add this to the OP as well)


Go have a look at one of NITRIXeDRINK profile 3v3 teams, you will find NITRIXdSuky in the same team or NITRIXeDRINK teaming with NITRIXeDRINK

I'm more inclined into believing that these "NITRIXeDRINK" accounts are used by a friend(s) of daisuki. Why? For a guy who ranked 2nd at USA Nationals, it's very hard to believe that he's "map hacking"


What seems more likely. That it's actually daisuki hacking on both accounts OR that two of his friends, who both happen to play zerg, who are both using the same hotkeys as daisuki and are ranked 15th and 16th in GM respectively are playing under HIS ID with maphacks. This is so far-fetched I don't even know what to say.


Those three accounts could be all from Daisuki and he's just lending them to his friends to play some 3v3s. I know we do that sometimes in my circle of friends.


Which is just a lame attempt at making any maphacking claim unfalsifiable. If people can just use the old shit trick of saying "Yeah it's my account, but it was someone else playing" then nobody can ever be proven guilty of maphacking. It's nothing but a shit trick. It's your account, your responsibility. I don't see any qualitative difference between maphacking on your account or allowing someone else to maphack on your account.


Technically this is a different situation because 1) the account has a similar name to a large group of accounts that are all shared, and 2) the account isn't in the name of Daisuki, therefore it isn't presumed to be him; that has to be proven.

Nonetheless, the fact that it's the same hotkeys makes it high odds it's Daisuke. But keep in mind, since we know it's a shared account, the hotkeys are the only thing we have to show it's him.


No, please get your facts straight. Both hacking accounts are Daisuki's accounts. He used both accounts in his replay pack.
RemarK
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States452 Posts
February 09 2013 02:08 GMT
#244
On February 09 2013 11:03 WikidSik wrote:
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On February 09 2013 10:28 Dosey wrote:
I'll never understand why...

So much risk for little reward.

what reward? even if you win a game its not like ur skills went up. sure you might get #1 GM but the moment u hit a live tourney ur through.


He gets paid by his sponsors to level the NITRIXeDRINK accounts and get them highly ranked.
I <3 StarCraft.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 02:10:07
February 09 2013 02:09 GMT
#245
On February 09 2013 09:32 ROOTT1 wrote:
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On February 09 2013 09:20 StarStruck wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:15 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
On February 09 2013 08:56 Grovbolle wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:55 rauk wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:47 Zealously wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:45 Hypemeup wrote:
Great work, this proves that he is a maphacker without the shadow of a doubt!

In just 4 timely months blizzard will have banned this account!


Whether Blizzard bans him or not is irrelevant - he'll never be able to participate in a Starcraft II tournament again following accusations (well-founded, admittedly) like these.


not really, if he proves himself on lan again and apologizes etc in a few months no one will care about his cheating, for example, haypro, kawaiirice, tt1, elky + smuft +dreamteam, dimaga, f91, etc

artosis as well (I recall Rekrul blogging about an incident where artosis played instead of someone else)


totally offtopic, but what? does anyone know what this might be about? I tried to lurk for it but I couldnt find anything :<


I don't know why you guys are looking for so much dirt and I could name many more but you know what? No. Just no. We've been down those roads several times and if you really want just use the search engine. -.-

On February 09 2013 09:18 ROOTT1 wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:17 FeverSC wrote:
Welp, this looks incriminating as fuck and I have no idea how he'd argue himself out of it. Bye daisuki! Good riddance


he was never apart of the community to begin with, thats why this doesnt suprise me at all


Oh come on Payam. Even guys part of this community are known to derp as well, so that's very tongue in cheek coming from you. lol *Sigh*


i started maphacking before i knew tl existed, once i joined it i was already too far into the dark side to get out. the only reason i stopped maphacking was because i wanted the communitys approval : D

You forgot to mention the part where you got caught and banned
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15717 Posts
February 09 2013 02:15 GMT
#246
Glad to see another hacker be exiled and shamed from the community. Good riddance.
psychotics
Profile Joined July 2011
United States184 Posts
February 09 2013 02:16 GMT
#247
just like curious i mean if hes maphacking on ladder is that really thread worthy? ok i know its cheating but theres a maphacking thread already right? if its just ladder games really who cares? but if its tournament then i can see this being important but if its just ladder? anyways not condoning maphackers or anything just wondering y people really care about ladder so much.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15717 Posts
February 09 2013 02:18 GMT
#248
On February 09 2013 11:16 psychotics wrote:
just like curious i mean if hes maphacking on ladder is that really thread worthy? ok i know its cheating but theres a maphacking thread already right? if its just ladder games really who cares? but if its tournament then i can see this being important but if its just ladder? anyways not condoning maphackers or anything just wondering y people really care about ladder so much.


Why should we not defend the ladder? Why allow such a potentially great piece of the community go to waste? We lose nothing by trying to preserve as much ladder sanctity as we can. Especially in GM.
Stoffelhase
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany162 Posts
February 09 2013 02:18 GMT
#249
very impressive post.. well done fighting hackers
psychotics
Profile Joined July 2011
United States184 Posts
February 09 2013 02:23 GMT
#250
On February 09 2013 11:18 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 11:16 psychotics wrote:
just like curious i mean if hes maphacking on ladder is that really thread worthy? ok i know its cheating but theres a maphacking thread already right? if its just ladder games really who cares? but if its tournament then i can see this being important but if its just ladder? anyways not condoning maphackers or anything just wondering y people really care about ladder so much.


Why should we not defend the ladder? Why allow such a potentially great piece of the community go to waste? We lose nothing by trying to preserve as much ladder sanctity as we can. Especially in GM.


your missing my point. there is already a thread for map hackers on ladder im wondering why a guy hacking on ladder is thread worthy if its just ladder. its not like hes an important player in anything sure he came in 2nd at wcs-usa but i mean hes pretty much just a random GM player with 1 good result?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
February 09 2013 02:26 GMT
#251
On February 09 2013 11:23 psychotics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 11:18 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 09 2013 11:16 psychotics wrote:
just like curious i mean if hes maphacking on ladder is that really thread worthy? ok i know its cheating but theres a maphacking thread already right? if its just ladder games really who cares? but if its tournament then i can see this being important but if its just ladder? anyways not condoning maphackers or anything just wondering y people really care about ladder so much.


Why should we not defend the ladder? Why allow such a potentially great piece of the community go to waste? We lose nothing by trying to preserve as much ladder sanctity as we can. Especially in GM.


your missing my point. there is already a thread for map hackers on ladder im wondering why a guy hacking on ladder is thread worthy if its just ladder. its not like hes an important player in anything sure he came in 2nd at wcs-usa but i mean hes pretty much just a random GM player with 1 good result?



Clearly the mods seem to think this thread is okay, so your desire to be content police isn't needed
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
February 09 2013 02:27 GMT
#252
On February 09 2013 11:23 psychotics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 11:18 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 09 2013 11:16 psychotics wrote:
just like curious i mean if hes maphacking on ladder is that really thread worthy? ok i know its cheating but theres a maphacking thread already right? if its just ladder games really who cares? but if its tournament then i can see this being important but if its just ladder? anyways not condoning maphackers or anything just wondering y people really care about ladder so much.


Why should we not defend the ladder? Why allow such a potentially great piece of the community go to waste? We lose nothing by trying to preserve as much ladder sanctity as we can. Especially in GM.


your missing my point. there is already a thread for map hackers on ladder im wondering why a guy hacking on ladder is thread worthy if its just ladder. its not like hes an important player in anything sure he came in 2nd at wcs-usa but i mean hes pretty much just a random GM player with 1 good result?


Are you by chance under the impression that koreans are the only people that are good at this game and everyone in america sucks simply because they don't have results?
That might explain your misconception of skill between players, and why this deserves a thread.
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iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 02:28:49
February 09 2013 02:28 GMT
#253
On February 09 2013 11:16 psychotics wrote:
just like curious i mean if hes maphacking on ladder is that really thread worthy? ok i know its cheating but theres a maphacking thread already right? if its just ladder games really who cares? but if its tournament then i can see this being important but if its just ladder? anyways not condoning maphackers or anything just wondering y people really care about ladder so much.


Why not? I can see the point of every "average" ladder hacker not being thread worthy, hence that thread, but this one is a bit more known with results high NA-ladder and LAN, and an accusation against him is a bit more serious as well(though the evidence seems pretty bad but )
It takes a fool to remain sane.
psychotics
Profile Joined July 2011
United States184 Posts
February 09 2013 02:33 GMT
#254
On February 09 2013 11:28 iNsaNe- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 11:16 psychotics wrote:
just like curious i mean if hes maphacking on ladder is that really thread worthy? ok i know its cheating but theres a maphacking thread already right? if its just ladder games really who cares? but if its tournament then i can see this being important but if its just ladder? anyways not condoning maphackers or anything just wondering y people really care about ladder so much.


Why not? I can see the point of every "average" ladder hacker not being thread worthy, hence that thread, but this one is a bit more known with results high NA-ladder and LAN, and an accusation against him is a bit more serious as well(though the evidence seems pretty bad but )


well its just that my point is this guy seems to me as just another average ladder hacker. hes no me important to the deezer really just ladder trash
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
February 09 2013 02:34 GMT
#255
People seem to care about ladder because everytime they lose on ladder it "must be a hacker"
exiling a hacker is what makes them happy.

Newsflash,
ladder doesnt matter, if you think it does, well then continue on.
stew_
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada239 Posts
February 09 2013 02:34 GMT
#256
wow, what a piece of shit... i hope the sponsor gets hit hard too for sponsoring a scumbag
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Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 02:36:41
February 09 2013 02:36 GMT
#257
On February 09 2013 11:34 stew_ wrote:
wow, what a piece of shit... i hope the sponsor gets hit hard too for sponsoring a scumbag


im sorry but Nitrix seems to be a very low key company.
I bet this wasnt even a full sponsorship at best
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
February 09 2013 02:36 GMT
#258
On February 09 2013 11:34 SoOJuuu wrote:
People seem to care about ladder because everytime they lose on ladder it "must be a hacker"
exiling a hacker is what makes them happy.

Newsflash,
ladder doesnt matter, if you think it does, well then continue on.

except when blizzard invites top ladder players to WCS qualifiers and events.
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Orpheusz
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia210 Posts
February 09 2013 02:39 GMT
#259
On February 09 2013 11:34 SoOJuuu wrote:
People seem to care about ladder because everytime they lose on ladder it "must be a hacker"
exiling a hacker is what makes them happy.

Newsflash,
ladder doesnt matter, if you think it does, well then continue on.


Except nearly every pro player except maybe a handful of Koreans use ladder as their main form of practice; stop trying to sound elitist and condescending for the sake of it.
psychotics
Profile Joined July 2011
United States184 Posts
February 09 2013 02:40 GMT
#260
On February 09 2013 11:36 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 11:34 SoOJuuu wrote:
People seem to care about ladder because everytime they lose on ladder it "must be a hacker"
exiling a hacker is what makes them happy.

Newsflash,
ladder doesnt matter, if you think it does, well then continue on.

except when blizzard invites top ladder players to WCS qualifiers and events.


blizzard didnt invite them they had to win quailfiers which were open to anyone in any league. sooo as long as the hacking was only on ladder not in tournaments not really any different then the thousands of other masters or higher hackers
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