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Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong747 Posts
February 09 2013 01:16 GMT
#221
Always impressed with these thorough investigations, great job!!!
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
February 09 2013 01:18 GMT
#222
On February 09 2013 10:14 SoOJuuu wrote:
Theres no democracy on TL
let the man speak before we raise anything!


Wrong on TL you are guilty until proven otherwise
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
February 09 2013 01:19 GMT
#223
A lot of evidence is pilling up now... I liked Daisuki's play from WCS
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howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
February 09 2013 01:24 GMT
#224
On February 09 2013 09:42 SlixSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 09:27 HomeWorld wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:01 RemarK wrote:
Here is another short video I made showing that both NITRIXeDRINK accounts are name changes from accounts used in the replay pack that Daisuki posted on TeamLiquid.net



I believe this should address all of the questions some people have brought up about accounts. (I'll add this to the OP as well)


Go have a look at one of NITRIXeDRINK profile 3v3 teams, you will find NITRIXdSuky in the same team or NITRIXeDRINK teaming with NITRIXeDRINK

I'm more inclined into believing that these "NITRIXeDRINK" accounts are used by a friend(s) of daisuki. Why? For a guy who ranked 2nd at USA Nationals, it's very hard to believe that he's "map hacking"


What seems more likely. That it's actually daisuki hacking on both accounts OR that two of his friends, who both happen to play zerg, who are both using the same hotkeys as daisuki and are ranked 15th and 16th in GM respectively are playing under HIS ID with maphacks. This is so far-fetched I don't even know what to say.


Those three accounts could be all from Daisuki and he's just lending them to his friends to play some 3v3s. I know we do that sometimes in my circle of friends.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
February 09 2013 01:28 GMT
#225
I'll never understand why...

So much risk for little reward.
PrAeToR.FeNiX
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada361 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 01:44:29
February 09 2013 01:36 GMT
#226
nice work i have played him this week i'll go through replay .
what a son of a bi...

EDIT: yeah i his play is so suspucious. First i am terran and i am notarious for 2 raxing zerg he doesnt scout me with drone. (even tough it was 2 player map and i have already beat this guy with 2 rax a few time)
2nd only send 1 over to scout all game ( frist one on cloud kingdom ) i do 3 cc build he doesnt scout deceide to all in but morph all his baneling on the 4th base ( i am botom so the one to the right) and send his ling bane where my army is defending my 3rd that he never scouted but thats where he it with all in, doesnt take tower as well... lol ...
En taro Adun!
awudhfnswwef
Profile Joined February 2013
1 Post
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 01:39:01
February 09 2013 01:36 GMT
#227
Hey, I'm a previously banned user and I can confirm that this guy is a maphacker.

I'm just going to quickly note (before i get banned again) that I have played against this guy many times, even back in the days of Metalopolis. He is a maphacker and has been a maphacker for a long time, I just had no idea it was Daisuki all along.

He always does some funky cheesy play, like 15hatching to the gold in ZvZ and doing silly all-ins. It appears that he only plays for wins so he can advertise NITRIX energy drink more. It is indeed plausible that he hacks just so he can get a higher ranking.
Good job on finding and exposing this hacker.
Anyway, mods ban me now.

EDIT: If anyone wants replays, feel free to PM me your e-mail or something so I can reply since I will most likely be banned by the time you are reading this.
The replays are months and months old so I would have to do a lot of digging if people really want more proof. Thx!

User was banned for this post.
WinterTV
Profile Joined February 2011
United States297 Posts
February 09 2013 01:39 GMT
#228
Wellllll. That sucks! Wonder when we'll see a statement from Daisuki?
@wintersc2
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
February 09 2013 01:40 GMT
#229
On February 09 2013 10:36 awudhfnswwef wrote:
Hey, I'm a previously banned user and I can confirm that this guy is a maphacker.

I'm just going to quickly note (before i get banned again) that I have played against this guy many times, even back in the days of Metalopolis. He is a maphacker and has been a maphacker for a long time, I just had no idea it was Daisuki all along.

He always does some funky cheesy play, like 15hatching to the gold in ZvZ and doing silly all-ins. It appears that he only plays for wins so he can advertise NITRIX energy drink more. It is indeed plausible that he hacks just so he can get a higher ranking.
Good job on finding and exposing this hacker.
Anyway, mods ban me now.

EDIT: If anyone wants replays, feel free to PM me your e-mail or something so I can reply since I will most likely be banned by the time you are reading this.
The replays are months and months old so I would have to do a lot of digging if people really want more proof. Thx!


I'll take this with a grain of salt.
Venomsflame
Profile Joined February 2011
United States613 Posts
February 09 2013 01:45 GMT
#230
On February 09 2013 09:32 ROOTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 09:20 StarStruck wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:15 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
On February 09 2013 08:56 Grovbolle wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:55 rauk wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:47 Zealously wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:45 Hypemeup wrote:
Great work, this proves that he is a maphacker without the shadow of a doubt!

In just 4 timely months blizzard will have banned this account!


Whether Blizzard bans him or not is irrelevant - he'll never be able to participate in a Starcraft II tournament again following accusations (well-founded, admittedly) like these.


not really, if he proves himself on lan again and apologizes etc in a few months no one will care about his cheating, for example, haypro, kawaiirice, tt1, elky + smuft +dreamteam, dimaga, f91, etc

artosis as well (I recall Rekrul blogging about an incident where artosis played instead of someone else)


totally offtopic, but what? does anyone know what this might be about? I tried to lurk for it but I couldnt find anything :<


I don't know why you guys are looking for so much dirt and I could name many more but you know what? No. Just no. We've been down those roads several times and if you really want just use the search engine. -.-

On February 09 2013 09:18 ROOTT1 wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:17 FeverSC wrote:
Welp, this looks incriminating as fuck and I have no idea how he'd argue himself out of it. Bye daisuki! Good riddance


he was never apart of the community to begin with, thats why this doesnt suprise me at all


Oh come on Payam. Even guys part of this community are known to derp as well, so that's very tongue in cheek coming from you. lol *Sigh*


i started maphacking before i knew tl existed, once i joined it i was already too far into the dark side to get out. the only reason i stopped maphacking was because i wanted the communitys approval : D


What the fuck kind of outlook is that. So you admit to seeing nothing wrong with what you were doing and just stopped so that people would stop disliking you? Ridiculous why anyone wastes time with you is beyond me
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
February 09 2013 01:47 GMT
#231
On February 09 2013 07:00 Nethermind wrote:
That's a ton of work you've put into that RemarK. Shame about the context, but great work none-the-less.


Wanted to agree with this - it's fantastic the amount of evidence and communication you have involved into your investigation and the presentation is engaging and precise. Good job.

Daisuki - shame on you.
T: Polt, Fantasy, Flash, Jjakji. P: HerO, Rain, Grubby, SoS. Z: Jaedong, Scarlett, Snute, Life. Casters: ToD, Apollo, MrBitter, Artosis, Day[9].
tassblaster
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada47 Posts
February 09 2013 01:48 GMT
#232
yo dont diss TT1 i use his builds esp the PVP ones
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
February 09 2013 01:49 GMT
#233
On February 09 2013 10:45 Venomsflame wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 09:32 ROOTT1 wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:20 StarStruck wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:15 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
On February 09 2013 08:56 Grovbolle wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:55 rauk wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:47 Zealously wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:45 Hypemeup wrote:
Great work, this proves that he is a maphacker without the shadow of a doubt!

In just 4 timely months blizzard will have banned this account!


Whether Blizzard bans him or not is irrelevant - he'll never be able to participate in a Starcraft II tournament again following accusations (well-founded, admittedly) like these.


not really, if he proves himself on lan again and apologizes etc in a few months no one will care about his cheating, for example, haypro, kawaiirice, tt1, elky + smuft +dreamteam, dimaga, f91, etc

artosis as well (I recall Rekrul blogging about an incident where artosis played instead of someone else)


totally offtopic, but what? does anyone know what this might be about? I tried to lurk for it but I couldnt find anything :<


I don't know why you guys are looking for so much dirt and I could name many more but you know what? No. Just no. We've been down those roads several times and if you really want just use the search engine. -.-

On February 09 2013 09:18 ROOTT1 wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:17 FeverSC wrote:
Welp, this looks incriminating as fuck and I have no idea how he'd argue himself out of it. Bye daisuki! Good riddance


he was never apart of the community to begin with, thats why this doesnt suprise me at all


Oh come on Payam. Even guys part of this community are known to derp as well, so that's very tongue in cheek coming from you. lol *Sigh*


i started maphacking before i knew tl existed, once i joined it i was already too far into the dark side to get out. the only reason i stopped maphacking was because i wanted the communitys approval : D


What the fuck kind of outlook is that. So you admit to seeing nothing wrong with what you were doing and just stopped so that people would stop disliking you? Ridiculous why anyone wastes time with you is beyond me


Friends are friends i guess. Even if they are giant d-bags
SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 01:50:52
February 09 2013 01:50 GMT
#234
On February 09 2013 10:24 howLiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 09:42 SlixSC wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:27 HomeWorld wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:01 RemarK wrote:
Here is another short video I made showing that both NITRIXeDRINK accounts are name changes from accounts used in the replay pack that Daisuki posted on TeamLiquid.net

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_s7Z9oz8Fc

I believe this should address all of the questions some people have brought up about accounts. (I'll add this to the OP as well)


Go have a look at one of NITRIXeDRINK profile 3v3 teams, you will find NITRIXdSuky in the same team or NITRIXeDRINK teaming with NITRIXeDRINK

I'm more inclined into believing that these "NITRIXeDRINK" accounts are used by a friend(s) of daisuki. Why? For a guy who ranked 2nd at USA Nationals, it's very hard to believe that he's "map hacking"


What seems more likely. That it's actually daisuki hacking on both accounts OR that two of his friends, who both happen to play zerg, who are both using the same hotkeys as daisuki and are ranked 15th and 16th in GM respectively are playing under HIS ID with maphacks. This is so far-fetched I don't even know what to say.


Those three accounts could be all from Daisuki and he's just lending them to his friends to play some 3v3s. I know we do that sometimes in my circle of friends.


Which is just a lame attempt at making any maphacking claim unfalsifiable. If people can just use the old shit trick of saying "Yeah it's my account, but it was someone else playing" then nobody can ever be proven guilty of maphacking. It's nothing but a shit trick. It's your account, your responsibility. I don't see any qualitative difference between maphacking on your account or allowing someone else to maphack on your account.
MaxQT
Profile Joined January 2013
69 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 01:53:20
February 09 2013 01:52 GMT
#235
On February 09 2013 10:50 SlixSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 10:24 howLiN wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:42 SlixSC wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:27 HomeWorld wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:01 RemarK wrote:
Here is another short video I made showing that both NITRIXeDRINK accounts are name changes from accounts used in the replay pack that Daisuki posted on TeamLiquid.net

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_s7Z9oz8Fc

I believe this should address all of the questions some people have brought up about accounts. (I'll add this to the OP as well)


Go have a look at one of NITRIXeDRINK profile 3v3 teams, you will find NITRIXdSuky in the same team or NITRIXeDRINK teaming with NITRIXeDRINK

I'm more inclined into believing that these "NITRIXeDRINK" accounts are used by a friend(s) of daisuki. Why? For a guy who ranked 2nd at USA Nationals, it's very hard to believe that he's "map hacking"


What seems more likely. That it's actually daisuki hacking on both accounts OR that two of his friends, who both happen to play zerg, who are both using the same hotkeys as daisuki and are ranked 15th and 16th in GM respectively are playing under HIS ID with maphacks. This is so far-fetched I don't even know what to say.


Those three accounts could be all from Daisuki and he's just lending them to his friends to play some 3v3s. I know we do that sometimes in my circle of friends.


Which is just a lame attempt at making any maphacking claim unfalsifiable. If people can just use the old shit trick of saying "Yeah it's my account, but it was someone else playing" then nobody can ever be proven guilty of maphacking. It's nothing but a shit trick. It's your account, your responsibility. I don't see any qualitative difference between maphacking on your account or allowing someone else to maphack on your account.


+1.




User was warned for this post
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
February 09 2013 01:52 GMT
#236
man that game vs Caliber....super shameful
mrhobbers
Profile Joined August 2010
109 Posts
February 09 2013 02:01 GMT
#237
Good job Remark.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 09 2013 02:02 GMT
#238
On February 09 2013 10:50 SlixSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 10:24 howLiN wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:42 SlixSC wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:27 HomeWorld wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:01 RemarK wrote:
Here is another short video I made showing that both NITRIXeDRINK accounts are name changes from accounts used in the replay pack that Daisuki posted on TeamLiquid.net

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_s7Z9oz8Fc

I believe this should address all of the questions some people have brought up about accounts. (I'll add this to the OP as well)


Go have a look at one of NITRIXeDRINK profile 3v3 teams, you will find NITRIXdSuky in the same team or NITRIXeDRINK teaming with NITRIXeDRINK

I'm more inclined into believing that these "NITRIXeDRINK" accounts are used by a friend(s) of daisuki. Why? For a guy who ranked 2nd at USA Nationals, it's very hard to believe that he's "map hacking"


What seems more likely. That it's actually daisuki hacking on both accounts OR that two of his friends, who both happen to play zerg, who are both using the same hotkeys as daisuki and are ranked 15th and 16th in GM respectively are playing under HIS ID with maphacks. This is so far-fetched I don't even know what to say.


Those three accounts could be all from Daisuki and he's just lending them to his friends to play some 3v3s. I know we do that sometimes in my circle of friends.


Which is just a lame attempt at making any maphacking claim unfalsifiable. If people can just use the old shit trick of saying "Yeah it's my account, but it was someone else playing" then nobody can ever be proven guilty of maphacking. It's nothing but a shit trick. It's your account, your responsibility. I don't see any qualitative difference between maphacking on your account or allowing someone else to maphack on your account.


Technically this is a different situation because 1) the account has a similar name to a large group of accounts that are all shared, and 2) the account isn't in the name of Daisuki, therefore it isn't presumed to be him; that has to be proven.

Nonetheless, the fact that it's the same hotkeys makes it high odds it's Daisuke. But keep in mind, since we know it's a shared account, the hotkeys are the only thing we have to show it's him.
WikidSik
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada382 Posts
February 09 2013 02:03 GMT
#239
On February 09 2013 10:28 Dosey wrote:
I'll never understand why...

So much risk for little reward.

what reward? even if you win a game its not like ur skills went up. sure you might get #1 GM but the moment u hit a live tourney ur through.
Iv been here for 5.5 years. My other accounts are named "Sonu" and "Dalroti" || I had some more but I cant find them XD || known in sc2 as "Sonu"
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
February 09 2013 02:03 GMT
#240
On February 09 2013 10:48 tassblaster wrote:
yo dont diss TT1 i use his builds esp the PVP ones

He got those builds from somebody else, soooo
Refer to my post.
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