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NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
February 09 2013 00:15 GMT
#181
On February 09 2013 08:56 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 07:55 rauk wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:47 Zealously wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:45 Hypemeup wrote:
Great work, this proves that he is a maphacker without the shadow of a doubt!

In just 4 timely months blizzard will have banned this account!


Whether Blizzard bans him or not is irrelevant - he'll never be able to participate in a Starcraft II tournament again following accusations (well-founded, admittedly) like these.


not really, if he proves himself on lan again and apologizes etc in a few months no one will care about his cheating, for example, haypro, kawaiirice, tt1, elky + smuft +dreamteam, dimaga, f91, etc

artosis as well (I recall Rekrul blogging about an incident where artosis played instead of someone else)


totally offtopic, but what? does anyone know what this might be about? I tried to lurk for it but I couldnt find anything :<
RemarK
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States452 Posts
February 09 2013 00:16 GMT
#182
On February 09 2013 09:03 infinitum wrote:
Thank you for your service to the integrity of this sport.

One minor quibble: It's a "peek" through the fog of war, not a "peak." I normally wouldn't bother mentioning it, but it actually really confused me for a while before I figured out what you were saying.


Haha, yeah I should fix that. I thought I proof-read for typos and spelling errors but clearly not well enough, thanks.

Also, as a general statement, a lot of people seem confused by this thread - I don't think Daisuki started hacking until recently, and there's no evidence that his WCS qualifier or online tournament results are not legit.

This is conjecture on my part, but presumably Daisuki is hacking just to make leveling the accounts to top 16 GM faster / easier (if you are using maphacks, it takes very little effort or mechanics to do so). There's a big difference between putting in the time to be a legitimate top 16 GM player and using hacks to efficiently rank up accounts, and Daisuki seemed to disappear after WCS NA ended, not reappearing until recently. But as I said, this part is just conjecture.
I <3 StarCraft.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9990 Posts
February 09 2013 00:17 GMT
#183
On February 09 2013 09:15 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 08:56 Grovbolle wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:55 rauk wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:47 Zealously wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:45 Hypemeup wrote:
Great work, this proves that he is a maphacker without the shadow of a doubt!

In just 4 timely months blizzard will have banned this account!


Whether Blizzard bans him or not is irrelevant - he'll never be able to participate in a Starcraft II tournament again following accusations (well-founded, admittedly) like these.


not really, if he proves himself on lan again and apologizes etc in a few months no one will care about his cheating, for example, haypro, kawaiirice, tt1, elky + smuft +dreamteam, dimaga, f91, etc

artosis as well (I recall Rekrul blogging about an incident where artosis played instead of someone else)


totally offtopic, but what? does anyone know what this might be about? I tried to lurk for it but I couldnt find anything :<


that was idra not artosis. he had assem play on his account in a clanwar cus he was 2 noobz
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Alltomata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States66 Posts
February 09 2013 00:17 GMT
#184
Welp, this looks incriminating as fuck and I have no idea how he'd argue himself out of it. Bye daisuki! Good riddance
www.twitch.tv/alltomata ~ follow me for protoss ladder!
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9990 Posts
February 09 2013 00:18 GMT
#185
On February 09 2013 09:17 FeverSC wrote:
Welp, this looks incriminating as fuck and I have no idea how he'd argue himself out of it. Bye daisuki! Good riddance


he was never apart of the community to begin with, thats why this doesnt suprise me at all
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 00:21:07
February 09 2013 00:20 GMT
#186
On February 09 2013 09:15 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 08:56 Grovbolle wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:55 rauk wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:47 Zealously wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:45 Hypemeup wrote:
Great work, this proves that he is a maphacker without the shadow of a doubt!

In just 4 timely months blizzard will have banned this account!


Whether Blizzard bans him or not is irrelevant - he'll never be able to participate in a Starcraft II tournament again following accusations (well-founded, admittedly) like these.


not really, if he proves himself on lan again and apologizes etc in a few months no one will care about his cheating, for example, haypro, kawaiirice, tt1, elky + smuft +dreamteam, dimaga, f91, etc

artosis as well (I recall Rekrul blogging about an incident where artosis played instead of someone else)


totally offtopic, but what? does anyone know what this might be about? I tried to lurk for it but I couldnt find anything :<


I don't know why you guys are looking for so much dirt and I could name many more but you know what? No. Just no. We've been down those roads several times and if you really want just use the search engine. -.-

On February 09 2013 09:18 ROOTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 09:17 FeverSC wrote:
Welp, this looks incriminating as fuck and I have no idea how he'd argue himself out of it. Bye daisuki! Good riddance


he was never apart of the community to begin with, thats why this doesnt suprise me at all


Oh come on Payam. Even guys part of this community are known to derp as well, so that's very tongue in cheek coming from you. lol *Sigh*
Glon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States569 Posts
February 09 2013 00:23 GMT
#187
I look forward to his response. It seems like he only started hacking recently - or at least I hope - from my time spent on the same team as him he did not map hack.

But then again, this proves that he is using multiple hacks (auto-inject + map vision). I honestly hope that an example is made: Nitrix should drop their sponsorship, and Daisuki's SC2 career should be over. I do not want another Terran-who-shall-not-be-named to happen again.
@QuanticGlon https://twitter.com/QuanticGlon
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 00:26:46
February 09 2013 00:25 GMT
#188
On February 09 2013 09:23 Glon wrote:
I look forward to his response. It seems like he only started hacking recently - or at least I hope - from my time spent on the same team as him he did not map hack.

But then again, this proves that he is using multiple hacks (auto-inject + map vision). I honestly hope that an example is made: Nitrix should drop their sponsorship, and Daisuki's SC2 career should be over. I do not want another Terran-who-shall-not-be-named to happen again.


Exactly how many guys have we made examples over the last fifteen years alone? A lot of them just keep coming back for more. Hacking back then was just as dreaded yet now more money is involved.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 09 2013 00:25 GMT
#189
Who's TT1? Wasn't he a hacker too or something?
RemarK, did you confirm these hacking techniques from him? He knows them all!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
PyreSC
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
February 09 2013 00:26 GMT
#190
To be honest, it's gotten to the point where I've played so many players on ladder who map hack that I don't even bother trying to do anything about it anymore... There are just so many maphackers out there atm ~_~
ucsd~
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
February 09 2013 00:27 GMT
#191
Wow, called the fuck out.

Daisuki is a good player though, I don't see why he feels the need to do this... how is it making you better? It isn't. How is it making you money? It isn't.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
February 09 2013 00:27 GMT
#192
On February 09 2013 09:01 RemarK wrote:
Here is another short video I made showing that both NITRIXeDRINK accounts are name changes from accounts used in the replay pack that Daisuki posted on TeamLiquid.net



I believe this should address all of the questions some people have brought up about accounts. (I'll add this to the OP as well)


Go have a look at one of NITRIXeDRINK profile 3v3 teams, you will find NITRIXdSuky in the same team or NITRIXeDRINK teaming with NITRIXeDRINK

I'm more inclined into believing that these "NITRIXeDRINK" accounts are used by a friend(s) of daisuki. Why? For a guy who ranked 2nd at USA Nationals, it's very hard to believe that he's "map hacking"
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9990 Posts
February 09 2013 00:32 GMT
#193
On February 09 2013 09:20 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 09:15 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
On February 09 2013 08:56 Grovbolle wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:55 rauk wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:47 Zealously wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:45 Hypemeup wrote:
Great work, this proves that he is a maphacker without the shadow of a doubt!

In just 4 timely months blizzard will have banned this account!


Whether Blizzard bans him or not is irrelevant - he'll never be able to participate in a Starcraft II tournament again following accusations (well-founded, admittedly) like these.


not really, if he proves himself on lan again and apologizes etc in a few months no one will care about his cheating, for example, haypro, kawaiirice, tt1, elky + smuft +dreamteam, dimaga, f91, etc

artosis as well (I recall Rekrul blogging about an incident where artosis played instead of someone else)


totally offtopic, but what? does anyone know what this might be about? I tried to lurk for it but I couldnt find anything :<


I don't know why you guys are looking for so much dirt and I could name many more but you know what? No. Just no. We've been down those roads several times and if you really want just use the search engine. -.-

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 09:18 ROOTT1 wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:17 FeverSC wrote:
Welp, this looks incriminating as fuck and I have no idea how he'd argue himself out of it. Bye daisuki! Good riddance


he was never apart of the community to begin with, thats why this doesnt suprise me at all


Oh come on Payam. Even guys part of this community are known to derp as well, so that's very tongue in cheek coming from you. lol *Sigh*


i started maphacking before i knew tl existed, once i joined it i was already too far into the dark side to get out. the only reason i stopped maphacking was because i wanted the communitys approval : D
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Glon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States569 Posts
February 09 2013 00:33 GMT
#194
On February 09 2013 09:27 HomeWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 09:01 RemarK wrote:
Here is another short video I made showing that both NITRIXeDRINK accounts are name changes from accounts used in the replay pack that Daisuki posted on TeamLiquid.net

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_s7Z9oz8Fc

I believe this should address all of the questions some people have brought up about accounts. (I'll add this to the OP as well)


Go have a look at one of NITRIXeDRINK profile 3v3 teams, you will find NITRIXdSuky in the same team or NITRIXeDRINK teaming with NITRIXeDRINK

I'm more inclined into believing that these "NITRIXeDRINK" accounts are used by a friend(s) of daisuki. Why? For a guy who ranked 2nd at USA Nationals, it's very hard to believe that he's "map hacking"



Did you even read the OP? The hotkeys are the same....

Would be interesting to add an analysis of APM.
@QuanticGlon https://twitter.com/QuanticGlon
MaxQT
Profile Joined January 2013
69 Posts
February 09 2013 00:35 GMT
#195
On February 09 2013 09:33 Glon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 09:27 HomeWorld wrote:
On February 09 2013 09:01 RemarK wrote:
Here is another short video I made showing that both NITRIXeDRINK accounts are name changes from accounts used in the replay pack that Daisuki posted on TeamLiquid.net

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_s7Z9oz8Fc

I believe this should address all of the questions some people have brought up about accounts. (I'll add this to the OP as well)


Go have a look at one of NITRIXeDRINK profile 3v3 teams, you will find NITRIXdSuky in the same team or NITRIXeDRINK teaming with NITRIXeDRINK

I'm more inclined into believing that these "NITRIXeDRINK" accounts are used by a friend(s) of daisuki. Why? For a guy who ranked 2nd at USA Nationals, it's very hard to believe that he's "map hacking"



Did you even read the OP? The hotkeys are the same....

Would be interesting to add an analysis of APM.


Yeah, and hotkeys are unique for each player..
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
February 09 2013 00:36 GMT
#196
damn op must have done a lot of digging.

RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
February 09 2013 00:38 GMT
#197
On February 09 2013 07:10 KawaiiRice wrote:
quick, contact his sponsors ! '~'

Or not. What if they were working together ? Only way for these sponsors to win some fame if they didn't get caught.
But now they can only deny. Either way it sucks.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
February 09 2013 00:40 GMT
#198
kinda figured when he first came onto the scene with his NITRIX accounts and getting top 16 GM out of nowhere... That shit just doesn't happen as we've learned in the past (Spades)
Glon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States569 Posts
February 09 2013 00:41 GMT
#199
On February 09 2013 09:38 RaiZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 07:10 KawaiiRice wrote:
quick, contact his sponsors ! '~'

Or not. What if they were working together ? Only way for these sponsors to win some fame if they didn't get caught.
But now they can only deny. Either way it sucks.


That's interesting actually.
If sponsors are pressuring Daisuki to hack, then I'm actually OK with Daisuki being assimilated back into the community. Players DEPEND on their paychecks from sponsors - and if the sponsors don't pay the player, the player can't do anything (what are they going to do? Sue (hint: they can't/won't)).

But for that to happen, we'll need a shit load of evidence from him, including screenshots of sponsors explicit telling him this....

And again, if he did it on his own accord, then it's been fun.
@QuanticGlon https://twitter.com/QuanticGlon
SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
February 09 2013 00:42 GMT
#200
On February 09 2013 09:27 HomeWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 09:01 RemarK wrote:
Here is another short video I made showing that both NITRIXeDRINK accounts are name changes from accounts used in the replay pack that Daisuki posted on TeamLiquid.net

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_s7Z9oz8Fc

I believe this should address all of the questions some people have brought up about accounts. (I'll add this to the OP as well)


Go have a look at one of NITRIXeDRINK profile 3v3 teams, you will find NITRIXdSuky in the same team or NITRIXeDRINK teaming with NITRIXeDRINK

I'm more inclined into believing that these "NITRIXeDRINK" accounts are used by a friend(s) of daisuki. Why? For a guy who ranked 2nd at USA Nationals, it's very hard to believe that he's "map hacking"


What seems more likely. That it's actually daisuki hacking on both accounts OR that two of his friends, who both happen to play zerg, who are both using the same hotkeys as daisuki and are ranked 15th and 16th in GM respectively are playing under HIS ID with maphacks. This is so far-fetched I don't even know what to say.
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