EPTWCS USA Runner-Up Daisuki maphacking? - Page 11
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SkaPunk
United States471 Posts
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
Edit: It appears the OP says the APM and spam cycles match the hotkeys, this is kind of vague to me, to they match all around or is it just the hotkeys that match? | ||
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mindjames
Israel436 Posts
I wish he would visit us more often. | ||
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LeanMeanMacroMachine
54 Posts
On February 09 2013 09:32 ROOTT1 wrote: i started maphacking before i knew tl existed, once i joined it i was already too far into the dark side to get out. the only reason i stopped maphacking was because i wanted the communitys approval : D Hackers gon' hack. Lol, how do u even have the guts to write in this thread. | ||
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
On February 09 2013 09:44 RezJ wrote: I can confirm that this Cloaken account is the real deal, he once posted in the GM maphacker thread and shortly afterwards, about 7 or 8 previously confirmed hackers were banned... I wish he would visit us more often. He should get a Blizzard icon on the forums. :D | ||
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SlixSC
666 Posts
On February 09 2013 09:43 Arco wrote: Is there a hotkey analysis thing with SC2Gears? Hotkeys can be the same as other people, but the personal order of setting them up and such is a particular unique thing you can look for. In Brood War, it was how you could figure out who anonymous progamers were from analyzing the replay with a third party program. I taught the same hotkeys I use to my newbie friends, so I think a proper hotkey analysis is needed. Edit: It appears the OP says the APM and spam cycles match the hotkeys, this is kind of vague to me, to they match all around or is it just the hotkeys that match? Why isn't the fact that they are all his accounts conclusive enough? It's him, they are evidently his accounts. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On February 09 2013 09:25 Torte de Lini wrote: Who's TT1? Wasn't he a hacker too or something? RemarK, did you confirm these hacking techniques from him? He knows them all! Yeah, he was. But nobody cares about him. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
First, Daisuki has said in the past he shares all the NITRIX accounts. And there are a lot of NITRIX accounts. Also, it's plausible that two zergs would use the exact same hotkeys. IMO a hotkey graph is more solid evidence than simply two players using the same hotkeys. I would be curious whether the hotkey differences seen here can be fully explained by auto-inject and maphack use: Refer to the hotkeys he uses: 1 – Zerglings 2 – Corruptors / Broodlords 3 – Infestors 4 – All hatcheries 5 – Queen 6 – Queen 7 - Queen 9 – All queens (this hotkey is only used on the maphacking accounts NITRIXeDRINK) 0 – Misc utility hotkey eDRINK replays: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lfL8d7K.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iIqI7pJ.jpg) dSuki replays: ![[image loading]](http://s4.postimage.org/4otopwhej/dsuki_4.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PbLqYHy.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/z3tzTRA.jpg) Not necessarily saying it isn't him, just wanted the argument to be airtight. | ||
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HomeWorld
Romania903 Posts
On February 09 2013 09:42 SlixSC wrote: What seems more likely. That it's actually daisuki hacking on both accounts OR that two of his friends, who both happen to play zerg, who are both using the same hotkeys as daisuki and are ranked 15th and 16th in GM respectively are playing under HIS ID with maphacks. This is so far-fetched I don't even know what to say. You forgot to add that he likes to play on 2 accounts at the same time in 2v2/3v3  Dunno what to say, but this all "Daisuki" thing looks like a big mess from my pov. PS: I'm not trying to defend Daisuki even if it looks like it. | ||
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WallFlowEr
United States2 Posts
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GhoSt[shield]
Canada2131 Posts
o.O Cloaken in the thread. | ||
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SlixSC
666 Posts
On February 09 2013 09:48 Doodsmack wrote: In the interest of making the argument airtight I was wondering if someone could answer the questions I've been asking. First, Daisuki has said in the past he shares all the NITRIX accounts. And there are a lot of NITRIX accounts. Also, it's plausible that two zergs would use the exact same hotkeys. I would also be curious whether the hotkey differences seen here can be fully explained by auto-inject and maphack use: Refer to the hotkeys he uses: 1 – Zerglings 2 – Corruptors / Broodlords 3 – Infestors 4 – All hatcheries 5 – Queen 6 – Queen 7 - Queen 9 – All queens (this hotkey is only used on the maphacking accounts NITRIXeDRINK) 0 – Misc utility hotkey eDRINK replays: dSuki replays: Not necessarily saying it isn't him, just wanted the argument to be airtight. I already told you that auto-inject explains the lack of queen usage. And maphackers are less likely to spread creep as it doesn't give them extra vision so it's at the very bottom of their list of priorities. Just watch the replays. No maphack = more creep spread. On February 09 2013 09:27 HomeWorld wrote: You forgot to add that he likes to play on 2 accounts at the same time in 2v2/3v3 Dunno what to say, but this all "Daisuki" thing looks like a big mess from my pov. PS: I'm not trying to defend Daisuki even if it looks like it. That's meaningless. If I was a maphacker and were to lend my account to a friend for some teamgames that wouldn't make me any less of a maphacker. | ||
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IAmBelieve
Canada70 Posts
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Nortac
United States375 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On February 09 2013 09:57 Nortac wrote: Daisuki streams a good amount beating good players without hacks, so I'm not completely sold yet. He placed 2nd as WCS US. No one is doubting he can beat good players, but that doesn't mean he can't hack. | ||
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NoBanMeAgain
United States194 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Xp7A2.png) ya.....that is pretty condemning evidence. I wonder what Daisuki's response will be? My pitchfork is ready tho (unfortunately) | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
On February 09 2013 09:57 Nortac wrote: Daisuki streams a good amount beating good players without hacks, so I'm not completely sold yet. Well ALOT of offline tournament winners got caught hacking in BW and WC3 so that does not prove anything. I have seen some debates here in the past that they do it for some kind of training purpose but thats another argument. Also streaming apparantly does not mean no hacks as you possibly could have them running on a 2nd monitor or whatever. | ||
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Spaceboy
United Kingdom220 Posts
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Siwelcela
United States87 Posts
Edit: Okay so after watching this replay without even being able to check his vision he is reacting very weird. Pulls his queen early with zerglings on ramp to fend off zealot pressure that he couldnt have seen till it got to his base. Also pretty much never sends out an ovy all game besides one to his natural. | ||
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Eggi
478 Posts
let the man speak before we raise anything! | ||
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