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It's saddening to see someone that did so well at offline event go so low and cheat so much online.
WCS USA Runner-Up Daisuki maphacking? - Page 9
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Herro_Korea
310 Posts
It's saddening to see someone that did so well at offline event go so low and cheat so much online. | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On February 09 2013 08:39 SlixSC wrote: Some awful jumps in logic and reasoning here. You are basically saying the integrity of the game is irrelevant because most people play for fun. Well I've got news for you, some people don't, it's literally their job and wasting time on the ladder vs someone who cheats does not help them practise. People who maphack will make decisions no other player would ever make. Against maphackers you can't experiment with builds or use drops or any of that because they see it coming. And even if 98% of all players play for fun, is playing vs. a maphacker fun? I don't think you will find very many people who would rather play a maphacker than someone who doesn't cheat. We care about the integrity of this game, so don't pretend like you hold some sort of moral high ground because for you "it's just a videogame". Yes it is just a videogame for most people, but some people are very passionate about this game and for some people it is even more than just a passion it is their job. This is so true, I dont understand people who basically think its okay to crap all over the integrity basically because its "just a" game?? | ||
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On February 09 2013 08:22 city42 wrote: Not in the way you're thinking. He and Smuft ran a scam in early 2003 via a paid online tournament (i.e., entry fee) with the grand prize of a flight to Korea and a spot on a pro team. The prize was bogus, so they got a Korean zerg friend to smurf in the tournament and win it, thus allowing them to keep the entry fee money. The zerg got steamrolled by Ret and they made him pull the plug on his internet, then forced a regame since they were the tournament admins. On topic: nice job with the write-up, it leaves no doubt whatsoever. His response to my 2 stargate voids was high comedy! Woah I never knew about that. Wasn't around back then and have heard nothing but good things about elky. Did the community really let that slide? | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
Without looking the replays, this sounds fishy. | ||
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Electrojam
France1 Post
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IMLyte
Canada714 Posts
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Eggi
478 Posts
On February 09 2013 08:51 Exarl25 wrote: Woah I never knew about that. Wasn't around back then and have heard nothing but good things about elky. Did the community really let that slide? Ofcourse the community of hypocrites. We have TT1, dimaga, F91 but when someones caught we go Ham on the guy, and forgive him in a year or two if he does well again Sense? none | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On February 09 2013 08:43 RemarK wrote: http://drop.sc/search?game_format=1v1&order=date_played&page=4&player=#162561 This account has replays from a long time ago on it - additionally, from this replay (http://drop.sc/104760) you can see by checking the chat that the NITRIXeDRINK account in question is a name change from NITRIXENERGY. He referred to NITRIXEDRINK not NITRIXENERGY One other thing I would mention is that Daisuki has said in the past he shares all the NITRIX accounts (there are a lot I think). I would also be curious whether the hotkey differences seen here can be fully explained by auto-inject and maphack use: eDRINK replays: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lfL8d7K.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iIqI7pJ.jpg) dSuki replays: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://s4.postimage.org/4otopwhej/dsuki_4.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PbLqYHy.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/z3tzTRA.jpg) Not necessarily saying it isn't him, just wanted the argument to be airtight. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3825 Posts
On February 09 2013 07:55 rauk wrote: not really, if he proves himself on lan again and apologizes etc in a few months no one will care about his cheating, for example, haypro, kawaiirice, tt1, elky + smuft +dreamteam, dimaga, f91, etc artosis as well (I recall Rekrul blogging about an incident where artosis played instead of someone else) | ||
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rEalGuapo
Germany832 Posts
Nothing else left to add except: Thank you for putting in this amount of effort, amazing work! | ||
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cvgHuShang
Canada95 Posts
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RemarK
United States452 Posts
I believe this should address all of the questions some people have brought up about accounts. (I'll add this to the OP as well) | ||
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Anfield
Yemen160 Posts
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infinitum
United States83 Posts
One minor quibble: It's a "peek" through the fog of war, not a "peak." I normally wouldn't bother mentioning it, but it actually really confused me for a while before I figured out what you were saying. | ||
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Caliber
United States598 Posts
On February 09 2013 08:59 cvgHuShang wrote: Hmm, the only problem I have with this is that he placed 2nd in wcs. If he really is a maphacker then I find it hard to believe that he could do so well at a tournament where it would have been impossible to use maphacks. I'd love to hear what dSuki has to say. I'm not buying into this 100% without his side of the story. How to say this without sounding sour... hmm. I lost 1-2 to daisuki in WCS America. The series went like so: 6 pool, weird roach hydra queen allin, and then I tried allining and died to counter roaches. I guess what I am trying to say is that his builds seemed really strange and odd to me, so maybe he caught a lot of other people off guard too? Unorthodox is a good word I suppose. There is no doubt in my mind he is a very skilled player though and from what I hear from friends/teammates hes a cool too... | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On February 09 2013 08:22 city42 wrote: Not in the way you're thinking. He and Smuft ran a scam in early 2003 via a paid online tournament (i.e., entry fee) with the grand prize of a flight to Korea and a spot on a pro team. The prize was bogus, so they got a Korean zerg friend to smurf in the tournament and win it, thus allowing them to keep the entry fee money. The zerg got steamrolled by Ret and they made him pull the plug on his internet, then forced a regame since they were the tournament admins. On topic: nice job with the write-up, it leaves no doubt whatsoever. His response to my 2 stargate voids was high comedy! I certainly didn't forget about that. There are many and I do mean many players who hopefully regret their mishaps from before. -_- | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
How do you know? | ||
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Moosegills
United States558 Posts
On February 09 2013 09:01 RemarK wrote: Here is another short video I made showing that both NITRIXeDRINK accounts are name changes from accounts used in the replay pack that Daisuki posted on TeamLiquid.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_s7Z9oz8Fc I believe this should address all of the questions some people have brought up about accounts. (I'll add this to the OP as well) You are a king | ||
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L0L
United States176 Posts
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On February 09 2013 08:22 city42 wrote: Not in the way you're thinking. He and Smuft ran a scam in early 2003 via a paid online tournament (i.e., entry fee) with the grand prize of a flight to Korea and a spot on a pro team. The prize was bogus, so they got a Korean zerg friend to smurf in the tournament and win it, thus allowing them to keep the entry fee money. The zerg got steamrolled by Ret and they made him pull the plug on his internet, then forced a regame since they were the tournament admins. On topic: nice job with the write-up, it leaves no doubt whatsoever. His response to my 2 stargate voids was high comedy! Haha good ol wdt days. | ||
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