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WCS USA Runner-Up Daisuki maphacking? - Page 7

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rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
February 08 2013 23:20 GMT
#121
On February 09 2013 08:06 FYRE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 07:55 rauk wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:47 Zealously wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:45 Hypemeup wrote:
Great work, this proves that he is a maphacker without the shadow of a doubt!

In just 4 timely months blizzard will have banned this account!


Whether Blizzard bans him or not is irrelevant - he'll never be able to participate in a Starcraft II tournament again following accusations (well-founded, admittedly) like these.


not really, if he proves himself on lan again and apologizes etc in a few months no one will care about his cheating, for example, haypro, kawaiirice, tt1, elky + smuft +dreamteam, dimaga, f91, etc

elky cheated?


elky and smuft made a foreign buyin tournament saying that the winner gets to go to korea and join AMD dream team, dreamteam manager never agreed to it, apparently oversky (a korean pro) played in it and knocked everyoen out
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
February 08 2013 23:21 GMT
#122
On February 09 2013 08:08 CoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 07:55 rauk wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:47 Zealously wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:45 Hypemeup wrote:
Great work, this proves that he is a maphacker without the shadow of a doubt!

In just 4 timely months blizzard will have banned this account!


Whether Blizzard bans him or not is irrelevant - he'll never be able to participate in a Starcraft II tournament again following accusations (well-founded, admittedly) like these.


not really, if he proves himself on lan again and apologizes etc in a few months no one will care about his cheating, for example, haypro, kawaiirice, tt1, elky + smuft +dreamteam, dimaga, f91, etc


are you crazy to put that guys in 1 sentences ???

dimaga as example got 2-3 freewins from another guy in TSL qualifier being angry not to qualifie (the enemy just left the games) yes stupid and he was banned 2 TSL ... for having someone 3 times left his game ... its A BIT different to stupid hackers


one is getting freewins from ladder to look good, one is getting freewins from ladder to place better in a tourney

hmmm
eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
February 08 2013 23:22 GMT
#123
On February 09 2013 08:05 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 08:01 xAriA wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:59 Glurkenspurk wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:55 rauk wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:47 Zealously wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:45 Hypemeup wrote:
Great work, this proves that he is a maphacker without the shadow of a doubt!

In just 4 timely months blizzard will have banned this account!


Whether Blizzard bans him or not is irrelevant - he'll never be able to participate in a Starcraft II tournament again following accusations (well-founded, admittedly) like these.


not really, if he proves himself on lan again and apologizes etc in a few months no one will care.


yeah, you can be a confirmed cheater like dragon and still end up okay as long as you apologize, lol.

or be wacky on stream


Dragon stream cheated and didn't maphack if I recall right.


i'm not really sure how stream cheating in a tournament is supposed to be better than maphacking on ladder

and according to wiki he admitted to maphacking anyways


Yeh but I didnt even knew that he still existed till recently when I watched his stream for few min. I was : yeh that guy from the first GSL open season lol

On topic - It is so retarded to play at high level and to cheat, like your are spitting on your reputation
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
February 08 2013 23:22 GMT
#124
On February 09 2013 08:06 FYRE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 07:55 rauk wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:47 Zealously wrote:
On February 09 2013 07:45 Hypemeup wrote:
Great work, this proves that he is a maphacker without the shadow of a doubt!

In just 4 timely months blizzard will have banned this account!


Whether Blizzard bans him or not is irrelevant - he'll never be able to participate in a Starcraft II tournament again following accusations (well-founded, admittedly) like these.


not really, if he proves himself on lan again and apologizes etc in a few months no one will care about his cheating, for example, haypro, kawaiirice, tt1, elky + smuft +dreamteam, dimaga, f91, etc

elky cheated?

Not in the way you're thinking. He and Smuft ran a scam in early 2003 via a paid online tournament (i.e., entry fee) with the grand prize of a flight to Korea and a spot on a pro team. The prize was bogus, so they got a Korean zerg friend to smurf in the tournament and win it, thus allowing them to keep the entry fee money. The zerg got steamrolled by Ret and they made him pull the plug on his internet, then forced a regame since they were the tournament admins.

On topic: nice job with the write-up, it leaves no doubt whatsoever. His response to my 2 stargate voids was high comedy!
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
February 08 2013 23:23 GMT
#125
One good thing to come from little Privacy for the Pros is that it keeps them honest. There are dedicated people who will find and catch you. Good work on the OP and I hope we can eventually catch and weed out all these players, Pro or Not.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
February 08 2013 23:25 GMT
#126
anyways i think it's pretty clear that if you're popular and good enough at the game people will overlook any cheating provided you don't go full savior
Venomsflame
Profile Joined February 2011
United States613 Posts
February 08 2013 23:25 GMT
#127
On February 09 2013 07:55 ROOTT1 wrote:
interesting but i really dont care 8D, weird situation tho


It's so weird that you don't care about someone maphacking. How strange that is...
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 23:28:29
February 08 2013 23:26 GMT
#128
Honestly I dont care. its only terrible if he hacks and wins money from tournaments.

He got 2nd at WCS and that shows he has skill, obviously he can't hack there.
Ladder is an E-peen place anyway, if he can play legit at LAN then who cares, your ladder points?

But if he did start hacking after WCS it could be of two reasons
1) he didnt play for a while thus had to resort to hacking to keep up his skill level
2) he doesnt care about going pro and just want to have drinking ladder kids tears

because at the end of the day,
its just a video game for 98% of us
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
February 08 2013 23:26 GMT
#129
Thank you for you thorough analysis, your impartiality and your care for the players and the community.

Sounds pretty damning tho ~~.

On a side note, wasn't WCS USA played offline, at least the final bracket?
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AnDa1120
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada472 Posts
February 08 2013 23:27 GMT
#130
REMARK GOSU
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
February 08 2013 23:28 GMT
#131
On February 09 2013 08:26 FakePseudo wrote:
Thank you for you thorough analysis, your impartiality and your care for the players and the community.

Sounds pretty damning tho ~~.

On a side note, wasn't WCS USA played offline, at least the final bracket?


Yes it was, his results in WCS USA are 100% legit and have nothing to do with this.
Wyrd
Profile Joined May 2011
United States211 Posts
February 08 2013 23:29 GMT
#132
Yeah, it doesn't seem like there's any way around this. RemarK, thanks. This is a service to the community that is really important and I am sure we all appreciate the time and effort you put into gathering this evidence. I know I do.
www.twitch.tv/wyrd5
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
February 08 2013 23:30 GMT
#133
LET THE DRAMA ENSUE!! muahahaha "eats up drama" It's been to long since we burned someone down.
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
February 08 2013 23:31 GMT
#134
On February 09 2013 07:46 Cloaken wrote:
We've passed this info on to our investigation teams.

-Cloaken
StarCraft II Community Manager


Oh wow, this is cool as hell. Definitely wasn't expecting this.
tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
February 08 2013 23:31 GMT
#135
I hate stories like this ...Looks pretty conclusive though
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 23:33:26
February 08 2013 23:31 GMT
#136
I had my pitchforks ready and was about to start chain-throwing them at the topic creator for ruining some guy's reputation without proof.

The first two games are completely circumstantial... up to the point where he sends QUEENS across the map to attack a bunker that he doesn't know exists. Queens. One of the most important Zerg units that could never be used as part of a scouting army for no purpose.

That's just not possible to be a coincidence. Everything else in those first two games could just be mindgaming or a hatred of Terran - maybe he got 2raxxed a lot recently. Caliber's comment on the spine crawler is pointless - there are 1000 reasons he could have chosen that timing. However, that bunker attack... there's nothing I can defend about that and I will freely admit that.

I thank you RemarK for not making this thread after just seeing one or two games and possibly making a false accusation. Others take note - THIS is how you go about it.
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
February 08 2013 23:31 GMT
#137
Im pretty sure Ive heard this guy been associated with other maphackers, but I think it got "cleared up" because he "only" leveld accounts for maphackers, he didnt hack himself back then.
PerryHooter
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden268 Posts
February 08 2013 23:32 GMT
#138
Guilty beyond reasonable doubt pretty much. Nice work
"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt"
KT(Rolster)HaunteR
Profile Joined September 2012
Korea (South)22 Posts
February 08 2013 23:34 GMT
#139
Looks legit, I presume this kid will be banned from SC2 indefinitely?
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 23:38:55
February 08 2013 23:34 GMT
#140
Pitchforks Unite!
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