• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:10
CEST 14:10
KST 21:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash6[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy11ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash Pros React To: SoulKey vs Ample ASL21 General Discussion RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site KK Platform will provide 1 million CNY
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group C [ASL21] Ro24 Group B
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Darkest Dungeon Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10894 users

WCS USA Runner-Up Daisuki maphacking? - Page 15

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 49 Next All
algorithm0r
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada486 Posts
February 09 2013 03:30 GMT
#281
Honestly I have no problem with this. He is using other accounts to hack on if the allegations are true, not on his own account or accounts he is boosting. Where is the harm? He hasn't used it in a tournament (he gets 2nd in them online no hacks) so what is the witch hunt for?

I hope Blizz only resets the hacking accounts for which there is proof and does not pursue Daisuke in a more aggressive personal way (banning all his accounts without proof etc). Furthermore I would hope that no tournament takes this as evidence that he is a cheater as it certainly is not.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 09 2013 03:30 GMT
#282
On February 09 2013 11:54 Cloaken wrote:
Thanks again to the OP for this information. We were able to take some solid action based off of these details.

Please always remember you can report hacks directly to hacks@blizzard.com.

Good luck out there, and always remember to "Play Nice, Play Fair."

Very good to hear!
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
February 09 2013 03:42 GMT
#283
On February 09 2013 11:54 Cloaken wrote:
Thanks again to the OP for this information. We were able to take some solid action based off of these details.

Please always remember you can report hacks directly to hacks@blizzard.com.

Good luck out there, and always remember to "Play Nice, Play Fair."


Good stuff
최지성 Bomber || 김동환 viOLet || 고병재 GuMiho
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 09 2013 03:55 GMT
#284
On February 09 2013 12:30 algorithm0r wrote:
Honestly I have no problem with this. He is using other accounts to hack on if the allegations are true, not on his own account or accounts he is boosting. Where is the harm? He hasn't used it in a tournament (he gets 2nd in them online no hacks) so what is the witch hunt for?

I hope Blizz only resets the hacking accounts for which there is proof and does not pursue Daisuke in a more aggressive personal way (banning all his accounts without proof etc). Furthermore I would hope that no tournament takes this as evidence that he is a cheater as it certainly is not.

The ladder is not just a few practice games with friends. The ladder is used for up-and-coming players to prove themselves, competent players to practice, and even somewhat for Blizzard rankings and tournaments. It's a serious matter; it's a complete breach of trust and etiquette for this game we all share and love. You can't simply say that cheating against a legitimate opponent in hundreds of games is not a serious matter - cheating is still cheating.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
February 09 2013 03:58 GMT
#285
On February 09 2013 12:30 algorithm0r wrote:
Honestly I have no problem with this. He is using other accounts to hack on if the allegations are true, not on his own account or accounts he is boosting. Where is the harm? He hasn't used it in a tournament (he gets 2nd in them online no hacks) so what is the witch hunt for?

I hope Blizz only resets the hacking accounts for which there is proof and does not pursue Daisuke in a more aggressive personal way (banning all his accounts without proof etc). Furthermore I would hope that no tournament takes this as evidence that he is a cheater as it certainly is not.


Where is the harm? Is that a serious question?
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Vesky
Profile Joined January 2013
United States857 Posts
February 09 2013 04:02 GMT
#286
Seems like a weird thing to do since he's a decent player.

I can't imagine he thought people wouldn't find out about this, I mean the FoW posturing + a-moves are hilarious.
Cababel
Profile Joined November 2012
United States31 Posts
February 09 2013 04:11 GMT
#287
This is very condemning evidence. The map hacking is completely obvious and so are the inject hacks. The only disputable portion is wether it was him playing or not. However the OP seems to suggest that his hotkey layout and usage match his main account which pretty much proves that it was him. Overall there really doesn't seem to be a lot of room for error in the accusation.
He's not just a step ahead he's dubstep ahead, just look at all his bases
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13405 Posts
February 09 2013 04:19 GMT
#288
Good detective work from RemarK. Really glad this was dealt with by Blizzard as well.

And I really don't completely understand why Daisuki would ruin his chances to play this game in any competitive environment ever again.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
February 09 2013 04:24 GMT
#289
awesome

draaaaamaaaaaaaaa
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
February 09 2013 04:24 GMT
#290
Even if he cheated, he still got second place WITHOUT cheating, you cant take that away from him.
Long live the Boss Toss!
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
February 09 2013 04:25 GMT
#291
There is no doubt daisuki is guilty, unless for some reason he ends up not owning the account, which is extremely unlikely.
But because of this i guess daisuki's career is over...I wonder what he's going to do next...
$O$ | soO
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 04:26:10
February 09 2013 04:25 GMT
#292
On February 09 2013 13:24 mrRoflpwn wrote:
Even if he cheated, he still got second place WITHOUT cheating, you cant take that away from him.


No one is trying to. He's a good player. That's why some of us are sort of confused ;(
+ Show Spoiler +
I agree with you I think(?) cant tell the tone >.>
Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/
TL+ Member
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1042 Posts
February 09 2013 04:25 GMT
#293
Not really all that surprising, since he waited so long to 'reveal' himself on that account for no apparent reason, especially when he left it idle for a week.
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 04:28:50
February 09 2013 04:26 GMT
#294
I don't understand people trying to defend him or saying that it doesn't matter if pro players hack on the ladder.

Of course it matters; every hacker is a nuisance to the game. They contribute nothing and ruin games while wasting other people's time. Players gain nothing from a loss versus a hacker and they gain only ladder points from a win. If they were hacking, there are no useful hints or lessons that the legitimate player can take away from the replay; somebody hiding cannons in your base because they know you already did a scouting round or blindly countering everything you throw at them is not real practice and not useful practice.

Every step towards eliminating it should be taken, even going so far as to ban main accounts for hacking on alt accounts. If he buys a new unbanned account, let him start again, fine, but ban everything he owns now. There is reason to be cautious in outing somebody, but with proof like this, let the pitchforks fly.

Also, Cloaken, thank you for posting here. It means a lot.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
February 09 2013 04:31 GMT
#295
I don't understand why he would cheat. Obviously he was a strong player with his WCS finish, if he is cheating ladder it isn't real practice for him anyway, why bother?

Very odd.
tribulator
Profile Joined February 2011
774 Posts
February 09 2013 04:35 GMT
#296
This reminds me, I forgot to pick up popcorn when I went grocery shopping.
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 04:37:57
February 09 2013 04:37 GMT
#297
You know what would be a good idea? To send this to TL mods/staff who can inturn message pros to review the evidence rather than posting a thread where 1000 people will not review the evidence and still say, "what a scumbag." Regardless of whether or not he hacks, his reputation is fucked, which is pretty cool. You could have saved his reputation for until after he's proven guilty, but instead now people who probably didn't watch the replays hate him.

For fucks sakes the replays have like 7-40 views on them and we're at 15 pages.

Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
February 09 2013 04:43 GMT
#298
On February 09 2013 13:37 Shebuha wrote:
You know what would be a good idea? To send this to TL mods/staff who can inturn message pros to review the evidence rather than posting a thread where 1000 people will not review the evidence and still say, "what a scumbag." Regardless of whether or not he hacks, his reputation is fucked, which is pretty cool. You could have saved his reputation for until after he's proven guilty, but instead now people who probably didn't watch the replays hate him.

For fucks sakes the replays have like 7-40 views on them and we're at 15 pages.


..did you even read the OP?
Refer to my post.
Razorspine
Profile Joined September 2012
New Zealand29 Posts
February 09 2013 04:44 GMT
#299
I hate that this is a thing. I would if possible love to have Blizzard hire (X) number of people whose entire job description was to uncover and eliminate hackers, because as a professional E Sport game, and the ladder being an extension of this should be a place of skill rather than a place for hackers who apparently need to hack at a game to have more fun, and if you ask me if you are hacking at Starcraft 2 you are trying too hard.
In this world we are all alone, only through the ultimate belief of friendship and trust can we even for a moment create the illusion that we are not alone.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
February 09 2013 04:48 GMT
#300
I guess this guy doesn't care about improving since HOTS is coming out soon
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 49 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
#80
WardiTV634
OGKoka 351
IntoTheiNu 36
Liquipedia
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro24 Group D
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Afreeca ASL 9753
StarCastTV_EN241
LiquipediaDiscussion
Replay Cast
09:00
SC:Evo Showmatches
CranKy Ducklings70
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 351
Lowko328
ProTech116
SortOf 108
Rex 92
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 12443
Bisu 7622
EffOrt 2105
BeSt 1722
GuemChi 1077
Sea 1044
Mini 777
actioN 577
Hyuk 517
Zeus 396
[ Show more ]
Killer 234
Larva 188
Sharp 155
JYJ 151
Soulkey 149
Hyun 111
ToSsGirL 105
Backho 98
Snow 91
Barracks 79
ggaemo 60
Sea.KH 49
Hm[arnc] 38
Bale 33
Shine 27
Sacsri 25
scan(afreeca) 24
[sc1f]eonzerg 18
GoRush 16
soO 14
yabsab 11
SilentControl 8
Terrorterran 7
Icarus 4
eros_byul 1
Dota 2
XcaliburYe520
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2488
zeus528
x6flipin403
allub202
edward81
Other Games
singsing2189
B2W.Neo1281
Livibee384
crisheroes320
Fuzer 208
ArmadaUGS131
Sick127
Mew2King39
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 271
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• iHatsuTV 10
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
3h 50m
Replay Cast
11h 50m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 50m
Afreeca Starleague
21h 50m
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
PiGosaur Cup
1d 11h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 21h
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
TriGGeR vs Cure
ByuN vs Rogue
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maru vs MaxPax
BSL
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S2: W1
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.