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insanet
Profile Joined January 2010
Peru439 Posts
December 16 2012 21:40 GMT
#41
On December 17 2012 06:03 fabiano wrote:
I think SC2 design doesn't suit Bisu actually.

He is known for his insane multitasking, but the game severely diminished the need to multitask. Probes can't really kill drones and SCVs anymore, very little multitasking is needed during battles, especially the big ones, and the most saddening thing in SC2 is that quantity beats quality. If Bisu could use 4 dragoons to clear out a mine field outside his natural while microing against vultures and tanks, he just can't micro Stalkers against Marauders because of that slow bullshit. He can't micro vs fungal, no amount of microing can help vs roach spamming.

If in BW battles could be decided by who microed better, in SC2 battles are decided by who was able to deny the opponent's micro faster, or most commonly, who has the bigger army.

If they remove anti-micro spells and add the BW high ground advantage and BW-esque maps, I think Bisu can rise again.


I think you all Bisu Fans should realize SC2 Protoss will never have the same dynamics of BW Protoss in doenst fit his style anymore, he is playing Protoss just for the fans. i think is time for Bisu to switch to Terran.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
December 16 2012 21:54 GMT
#42
Bisu is an instinct-type player (polar opposite of Fantasy imo), he was known to free-style and still win/dominate before going to SKT (where more planning was put into his play via coaching staff). That's why SC2 isn't good for him because he hasn't developed a good instinct for the game yet. He even says in an interview that the reason why he doesn't do well in SC2 is because he hasn't developed a feel for the game (terms of unit relations, timings, etc) whereas in BW he would know how a battle would pan out before it even started.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8715 Posts
December 16 2012 22:35 GMT
#43
On December 17 2012 03:23 FromShouri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 03:19 WeRRa wrote:
On December 17 2012 02:51 Testuser wrote:
On December 17 2012 01:51 Hazuc wrote:
I hope we won't lose Bisu. ;__;

It sadly seems likely. Not even getting fielded in proleague ... not a bright future ..

But i think Bisu wasn't know for pure talent like Flash, more for his hard practice, so i still have hopes that he will get back in good shape.


Flash is known for his talent, strategic insight, and hard work.

Bisu is known for having insanely good multi task and hard work.

However, they also have 1 whole game to absorb and another looming on the horizon.....


He was also known for insanly smooth finger management on keyboard and mouse, even in progamer relations, that allows him his multitasking action and amazing micro.

On December 17 2012 06:03 fabiano wrote:
I think SC2 design doesn't suit Bisu actually.

He is known for his insane multitasking, but the game severely diminished the need to multitask. Probes can't really kill drones and SCVs anymore, very little multitasking is needed during battles, especially the big ones, and the most saddening thing in SC2 is that quantity beats quality. If Bisu could use 4 dragoons to clear out a mine field outside his natural while microing against vultures and tanks, he just can't micro Stalkers against Marauders because of that slow bullshit. He can't micro vs fungal, no amount of microing can help vs roach spamming.

If in BW battles could be decided by who microed better, in SC2 battles are decided by who was able to deny the opponent's micro faster, or most commonly, who has the bigger army.

If they remove anti-micro spells and add the BW high ground advantage and BW-esque maps, I think Bisu can rise again.



lol so true o.O


ontopic: I didn't like Modesty but his ZvZ sniping was surprisingly good.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
December 22 2012 12:26 GMT
#44
Good luck to them. Gonna watch some modesty zvzs now
The heart's eternal vow
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
December 22 2012 12:38 GMT
#45
On December 17 2012 06:03 fabiano wrote:
I think SC2 design doesn't suit Bisu actually.

He is known for his insane multitasking, but the game severely diminished the need to multitask. Probes can't really kill drones and SCVs anymore, very little multitasking is needed during battles, especially the big ones, and the most saddening thing in SC2 is that quantity beats quality. If Bisu could use 4 dragoons to clear out a mine field outside his natural while microing against vultures and tanks, he just can't micro Stalkers against Marauders because of that slow bullshit. He can't micro vs fungal, no amount of microing can help vs roach spamming.

If in BW battles could be decided by who microed better, in SC2 battles are decided by who was able to deny the opponent's micro faster, or most commonly, who has the bigger army.

If they remove anti-micro spells and add the BW high ground advantage and BW-esque maps, I think Bisu can rise again.


His multitasking in SC2 is below average relative to other Kespa players. That's the weird thing.
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